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>Bullied massively due his discrete model
>This causes him to become an academic pariah and to off himself
>Plank literally copies his model and applies it to his experiment
>Gets massive recognition and becomes one of the most famous scientist of all time
>Boltzmann gets basically births quantum dynamics and stablishes the basics of classical ensembles (Fermi-Dirac and Bose Einstein stadistics are just variations of this)
>all his recognition is a constant that is composed of the universal gas constant and Avogadro's number
Is he one of the most tragic figures in the history of science? My feeling is he gets a fraction of the recognition that he deserves

>> No.15467771 [DELETED] 

>>15467763
He's well known in physics but he was attacked by poincare and zermelo when he was alive because they couldn't accept that atoms existed.

>> No.15467774

>>15467763
He looks very soi

>> No.15467788

>>15467763
he doesn't deserve recognition, his thermodynamics is based on the concept of a dead universe with a baseline temperature of 0ºK, which in plainly not the case. it was a failure, similarly planck's blackbody law only holds true in the case of the background radiation, in every other case it fails to match experimental results. the stefan-boltzmann constant was derived incorrectly.
hero worshipping dead idiots just because they vainly devoted their lives to attaching their names to nonexistent physical constants and law screams pseud, OP is a freshman at best.
boltzmann burns in hell where he belongs, suicide is a mortal sin, he was too full of himself to admit a mistake, so when he realized how badly he had embarrassed himself by proudly publishing his stupidity he chose the coward's way out. good riddance, too bad he didn't do it 50 years earlier.

>> No.15467802

>>15467788
t. schizo

>> No.15467835

>>15467763
>Plank
Planck

>> No.15467930

>>15467763
>faggot who couldn't prove his theories is forgotten
>scientist who could is remembered
HOLY FUCKING STOP THE PRESSES!

>> No.15467935

>>15467930
Planck didn't know why his model worked dumbass. He apologized because he thought he was doing schizo shit which was invalid.

>> No.15467941

>>15467935
>Planck didn't know why his model worked dumbass
show me a single instance where we know why a model works

>> No.15467944

>>15467941
You don't know what you're talking about. Planck assumed light was made up of tiny discrete oscillators. His model worked for the wrong reasons. It wasn't until Einstein and Compton proved that light was actually a particle via photons that Planck's model made sense. To answer your request, general relativity. It's understood precisely how mass distorts space which lead to an accurate quantification of the precession of mercury's orbit. In short, kys you fucking moron and gtfo my board.

>> No.15467947

>>15467944
>It's understood precisely how mass distorts space which lead to an accurate quantification of the precession of mercury's orbit.
I asked why, not how.
WHY does mass distort space?

>> No.15467950

>>15467947
ESL retard

>> No.15467962

>>15467947
Mass does not distort space. Its space time. A worthless concept if you think. GR does not explain gravity. It just explains how the equations must be changed to fill einsteins assumotions.
>>15467950
Dumbass but knows english by birth. Want a medal?

>> No.15467965

>>15467962
Ask me how I could tell English is you second language and maybe we'll make some progress

>> No.15468033

>>15467935
Nobody gives a damn WHY models work.

>> No.15468041

Why do we go on this board and argue retarded semantics instead of the actual physics involved

>> No.15468043

>>15468041
any physicist worth his salt is secretly a philosopher. fun fact, boltzmann taught philosophy classes in college, so it's only appropriate we discuss philosophy in his thread.

>> No.15468044

>>15468033
Retarded.

>> No.15468048

>>15468044
You are retarded for thinking "whys" matter. What matters is whether or not a model produces results, never why. Why is not a scientific question. Why is for retards who won't let go of theology.

>> No.15468050

>>15468048
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Theology retards ask for "purposes" but why questions aren't about purposes.

>> No.15468051

>>15468050
ESL

>> No.15468054

>>15468043
Their philosophical arguments have mathematical, logical, and physical underpinnings to them. This is just gossip and semantics. Comparing this discussion to a physicist / philosopher seems almost insulting towards him.

>> No.15468056

>>15468048
can't make good predictions unless you nail the 'why' in some capacity. if you don't care about predictions, modeling to only explain observations is so easy a schizo could do it. see the thread on spins.

>> No.15468057

>>15468051
Refer to >>15468044

>> No.15468059

>>15468056
You are confusing "why" and "how". How is an important question when working with models. How does the model work, how does the model produce results.

Why is theology. Why never matters.

>> No.15468061

>>15468057
Refer to >>15468059

>> No.15468064

>>15468061
Why did you buy a 4chan pass?

>> No.15468067

>>15468059
ESL retard.
>>15468064
he didn't buy a pass, he's a janny, and i love how much he's going to seethe that i can tell

>> No.15468069

>>15468059
Why questions the results to figure out the equation.
How questions the equation that produced the results.

>> No.15468075

>>15468059
Consider
> Why does the sun rise?
Answer: the earth spins.
> How does the sun rise?
Answer: wtf ??

>> No.15468082

>>15468075
dude, are you even out of middle school yet? still confusing hows and whys?

>> No.15468084

>>15468082
how does the sun rise?

>> No.15468087

>>15468084
how does you mother suck nigger cocks?
>b-but she doesn't!!!
sorry you have to explain how your mother sucks cock, the fact that I asked the question means it's true

>> No.15468088

>>15468082
Oh, you're just a noisy retard. Sorry for trying to help lol.

>> No.15468095

>>15468087
you don't know? i accept your concession.

>> No.15468101

>>15468095
>how does the sun rise
it doesn't
here's your answer

>> No.15468102

Some Why questions are valid, some are not. Why is this so hard to understand?

>> No.15468103

>>15468102
>How is this so hard to understand?*
fixed it for you my dear sir

>> No.15468109

>>15468101
oh, you're a schizo. understood.

>> No.15468110

>>15468103
pajeet confirmed kek

>> No.15468117

>>15468109
the sun doesn't rise my dear internet fellow, you might want to update your middle age brain

>> No.15468119

>>15468109
>you're a schizo
The sun doesnt rise or set, its stationary. It is the earth that is reorienting to give the illusion of rising and setting.

This is the era of the Schizo. Know your place, nuero-TYPICAL.

>> No.15468122

>>15468103
>>>/r/samejokebutworse

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>>15468117
>update your middle age brain
>He doesnt use star dates predicated on orbit of the sun around the black hole at the center of the galaxy.
[[[Modern]]].

>> No.15468528

>>15467763
science pro

>> No.15468564

>>15467788
retard haha. you will live and die a nobody meanwhile his legacy will continue. seethe on christcuck

>> No.15468674

>>15467763
Other than the fact you're mischaracterizing the actual chain of events, literally every physicist knows who he is and uses a constant named after him on a regular basis, among other things named after him. How much more recognition do we need to give him?

>> No.15468684

>>15468117
>>15468119
Rising and setting are functions of perspective. It's not an "illusion." Also, the sun is not stationary, since the barycenter of solar system is not at the center of the sun, and the solar system itself orbits the galaxy (which also moves).

>> No.15468685

>>15468684
You, as with everyone else who posts on sci, probably know nothing. I won't be taking you seriously ass pawt

Giggidy

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>>15468684
>It's not an "ilLUSION."
Then why did he say it rises if he is not deLUSIONal?
>barycenter
I thought about saying that but didnt want to write a page for a short shitpost. Brevity, but so did he...and here you are doing that too.
>and the solar system itself orbits the galaxy (which also moves)
This is why I think we should use the center of the universe for cardinality or else life will live in chaos. Univeral north and south, Earth being the meridian zero point. Done and done.

Please, post citations for a Unified Theory with every post or else I will have nothing but corrections to make because its an incomplete explaination.

>> No.15468698

>>15468087
>>15468059
>hurr you have to ask "how" not "why
As if any mainstream psychosis modern science peddles knows the "how" either. You demonstrably show exactly what they do, spout drivel, avoid the question, and spew constantly English corrections and coping mechanisms because you're pent up to exercise that $80,000 degree. I would ask for a refund, personally.

>>15468684
Thank you for posting the "How". See how it comes in the form of an explanation and not just describing the premise of the question?

>> No.15468700

>>15468698
that's a lot of words to cope with the fact that you are incapable of understanding the fundamental difference between why and how

>> No.15468705

>>15468700
no one who speaks english cares what your mumbai esl class taught you about english

>> No.15468713

>>15468705
lol, so angry!

>> No.15468718

>>15468713
why u so angry tho?

>> No.15468720

>>15468718
I am not

>> No.15468723

>>15468720
? you just said >>15468713

>> No.15468729

>>15468723
lol

>> No.15468735

>>15468705
good morning xir

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>>15467763
>TL;DR
>OP was bullied in college

>> No.15468762

>>15468564
Under Atheism, the destiny for all things is eternal oblivion, so I'm not sure how you "win."

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>>15468700
Pretty rich considering that you claim "why" questions are"theology" and then proceeded to claim "why" never matters. It's like saying:
>The reason never matters.

Yes it does you book learned retard. It's the only thing that matters.

>> No.15468771

>>15468762
he's a pajeet and he's definitely not book-learned

>> No.15468773

>>15468766
>>The reason never matters.
reason only applies to humans. when a human does something you can ask both how and why.
if you ask "why" regarding an inanimate object you are ascribing a human reason behind the object, i.e. theology

>> No.15468786

>>15468773
>reason only applies to humans
Why?

>if you ask "why" regarding an inanimate object you are ascribing a human reason behind the object, i.e. theology
You are inquiring about the "cause", of which some attribute to religion/god "theology". What object is "inanimate" ?

>> No.15468800

>>15468786
>You are inquiring about the "cause"
then use "how"

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15468808

>>15468800
Why?

>> No.15468821

>>15468808
because if you ask "why" you are implicitely saying that the phenomenon has a conscious entity behind it

>> No.15468823

>>15468821
Why?

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15468825

>>15468821
>When you ask why, you're implying why

>> No.15468831

>>15468825
Exactly, whereas when you ask how you're not implying anything :)

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15468837

>>15468831
That's stupid. You're stupid.

>> No.15468839

>>15468837
He knows, he's just trolling.

>> No.15468846

>>15468837
why does your mother suck nigger cock?
how does your mother suck nigger cock?

two completely different questions, you would never answer one in place of the other.
but somehow you are incapable to comprehending this

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>>15468823
Anon, he's an ESL victim hallucinating a distinction that doesn't exist in English. Not in formal English, not in informal English, not even in ghetto English.

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15468874

>>15468873
better resolution

>> No.15468876

>>15468873
I think he's just trolling.

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15468885

>>15468846
You can't just say asking "why" strictly implies the religious answer to the very why question being asked. It makes no sense.

>>15468839
>>15468873
>>15468874
He's not any of those. He's just retarded.

>> No.15468886

>>15468873
>>15468876
lol, btfod so hard

>> No.15468888

>>15468885
>why does the universe exist?
implies a creator
>how does the universe exist?
doesn't

simple as

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>>15468888
>why does the universe exist?
>implies a creator

No it doesn't. That's you projecting said "creator" onto the question. You're implying a creator and I'm asking why something works/is the way it is.

>doesn't
It inquires the utility of accomplishing the "why". The "Why" is the reason, the "how" is the means to achieve the goal.

>> No.15468914

>>15468901
>The "Why" is the reason,
"reason" implies the phenomenon is the result of a conscious action performed by an entitiy capable of reasoning
>the "how" is the means to achieve the goal.
there is no goal. a goal implies purpose, and purpose implies motives and motives imply conscious reasoning.

>why did you throw that ball?
because I wanted to hit a nigger
>how did you throw the ball?
by using my arm muscles

as you can see, since the ball throw was a result of my conscious actions, asking "why" makes perfect sense and gives you a different answer

>how did the rock fall off the cliff
it was hit by strong winds and lost its balance
>why did the rock fall off the cliff?
fuck should I know, am I God or something?

>> No.15469040

>>15468888
the questions ask the same thing pajeet

>> No.15469290

>>15468914
Lol, no. English works like this:
>why did the rock fall off the cliff?
it was hit by strong winds and lost its balance
>how did the rock fall off the cliff
slowly at first with two bounces then freefall the rest of the way

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15469916

>>15467788
Wrong. Only Gnosis can bring salvation, not faith. Until that happens he will keep reincarnating in this cursed world.