/sci/ - Science & Math

first for Artemis program RocketShipping

>>15466982
holy freaking cute ah (as heck)

poo launch tomorrow

stinky

>>15466993
good morning sir

>>15467021
Scat sat 8?

gren

orng

>>15466993
>>15467021
I can't wait for the awful sound quality, random Hindi and English mixed announcements and 1980s Warsaw Pact tier TV picture.

Updated my list of surviving Oldspace Americans. 16/55. Who's next? Who will win the tonteen?

I predict that Borman will bury just about all of them, and live to be like 110 or something, he's a crochety, grumpy fuck. Too grouchy to die. A real pity that they've all lived just long enough to see the country go down the toilet (again, much as it had done during the Apollo era, although the 80s and 90s were a nice rebound which has since been squandered).

>>15466968
What is that?

>>15466982
Kys NASAnigger

>>15467075
I just need Buzz to see people walk on the moon again

>>15467075
good content. how about the soviets?

>>15467082
A simulator. Probably for a moon rover.

>>15466982

>>15467120
AI should fix that, she's holding a floppy sleeve, not a lantern (it's part of the SRB).

>>15467094

I have several useful book on Soyuz (Shayler, etc) but I haven't done THAT deep of a dive. I know like Vostok/Voskhod and maybe a few of the first Soyuz cosmonauts but that's all. Also the Soyuz era runs continuously from 1967-present so there isn't a clear cutoff as in the American case.

I believe Gyorgy Grechko was the only human to board three different space stations but I'm not sure on that one. Here's a fragment of autism from one of my old files.

>>15467125
tried "long sleeves" and didn't change anything, so meh.

>>15467120
extra cute

>>15467120
Jesus fuck, get your AI to draw in teeth. Also kys shuttlecuck

>>15467120
What is Starship-chan's expression conveying here? She looked smug and self-assured in the original but in this she's.. :(

>>15467200
Disinterest/sadness in SLS

>>15467203
This is reality.

>Firefly hasn't flown in 8 months and has still yet to do so fully successfully
>ABL has been MIA for months
When are these guys going under?

Mohawk launch director guy got laid off at Astra.

What is currently preventing us from starting to build a small fraction of a Dyson sphere around our sun? Do we not yet know how to make a solar panel that can withstand the amount of heat caused by getting it close enough to the sun to make it worthwhile?

>>15467267
Once we have the energy, how do we send it somewhere useful?

Kill Rocket-3s. Behead Rocket-3s. Roundhouse kick a Rocket-3 into the concrete. Slam dunk a Rocket-3 baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Rocket-3s. Defecate in a Rocket-3s food. Launch Rocket-3s into the sun. Stir fry Rocket-3s in a wok. Toss Rocket-3s into active volcanoes. Urinate into a Rocket-3s gas tank. Judo throw Rocket-3s into a wood chipper. Twist Rocket-3s heads off. Report Rocket-3s to the IRS. Karate chop Rocket-3s in half. Curb stomp pregnant Rocket-3 Rocket-3s. Trap Rocket-3s in quicksand. Crush Rocket-3s in the trash compactor. Liquefy Rocket-3s in a vat of acid. Eat Rocket-3s. Dissect Rocket-3s. Exterminate Rocket-3s in the gas chamber. Stomp Rocket-3 skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate Rocket-3s in the oven. Lobotomize Rocket-3s. Mandatory abortions for Rocket-3s. Grind Rocket-3 fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Rocket-3s in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Rocket-3s with a ray gun. Kick old Rocket-3s down the stairs. Feed Rocket-3s to alligators. Slice Rocket-3s with a katana

>>15467239
look at this cute little useless rocket
>>15467267
nothing, in fact we already are. just keep throwing satellites into the suns orbit and eventually people are going to start calling it a dyson swarm.

>>15467267
>>>/lit/sffg

>>15466108
>For what purpose?
So you can have constant sunlight for solar energy, without needing to deal with batteries or thermal cycling. And you could have it close to Earth.

>>15467270
Just park a bitcoin farm next to it :^)

do you guys have anything like this for rockets?

>>15467311
https://twitter.com/sbarky38
he posts in these threads sometimes

>>15467364
Reminder that the nosecone windows are still well and truly dead.

>>15466968
The next Hayabusa mission will make anime real

>>15466982
who is she waving at?

>>15467392
Vulcan (still waiting on engines).

TND (Total NASA Death)

Thank you for coming to my TED (Total Earther Death) Talk.

What are you gonna listen to for OFT-2? Im thinking some classical, maybe Hungarian Dance No. 5. Would match the chaotic nature of these first launches

>>15467453
Yakety Sax

>>15467458
Kek

>>15467453
Air on G String, just as it passes into space.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMkmQlfOJDk

>>15467032
look at it go (the cost over runs)

>>15467239
This reminds me of those fluffies or snuffies or whatever they are called and I hate it for that reason.

>>15467453
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zTL4T_NVGhY&pp=ygUjQXMgc3Bva2UgemFyYWRodXN0YSBjaGlsZCBvcmNoZXN0cmE%3D

>>15467453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6raJluIg40

>>15467032
The Space Transportation System was a beautiful piece of engineering, and I won't stand for anyone insulting her.
>Captcha: SN8WM

>>15467505

>>15467509
They fixed it though. This and Columbia were preventable management decisions.

As an openly gay space enthusiest I feel like this is my only thread. This is the gayest general on 4channel.

>>15467514
This post isn't me...

>>15467514
/sfg/ - space for gays

>>15467524
You can be reported for homophobic remarks...

>>15467531
Do it faggot

>>15467453
darude sandstorm

>>15467120
God I love AI

V U L C A N

Rate your planets for exploration!
1.Mars
2.Earth (Moon and what's left in the oceans)
3.Jupetor (again including its moons)
4.Saturn
5.Venus

>>15467635
>barefoot

https://twitter.com/dburbach/status/1662656874301251584

>>15467075
Add these too science™goi

>>15467664
>The endless delays are normal
>Part and parcel of living on a globohomo space ball hurdling through the void
>It's ok we don't go to Mars in next 100 years, at least we tried
>the money was well spent anyway
The absolute mental gymnastics of golems

>>15467665
Are you retarded

>>15467661
Imagine the smell

>>15467665
I like how they didn’t even both to change half their names.The idea that they killed a bunch of people in a massive event that made worldwide news and then gave all the people in it public facing jobs with the exact same name.

>>15467681
The golems are completely oblivious, they really do not care. Tptb could wipe out half the worlds population tomorrow and the remaining golems would not notice or care. If you came to this board the day after, it would be the same golems discussing the latest "space flight" developments.

nice, Every single schizo is back. Although it's kind of weird they all came back at the same time, and that they all exclusively post on page one.

>>15467667
Nobody says this.
You spend so much of your time to come here and fight the enemies that you made up in your head.

>>15467690
Roscosmos getting mobilized at the same time suggests the schizos are Russian disinfo agents.

>>15467687
You’re right. They are mocking you. Laughing in your face with how flagrant they are. Are you gonna just sit there and take it or are you going to take a stand? Go shoot up your local synagogue. That will teach them.

any /sfg/ anons enjoy classical music?
I like to listen to this occasionally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmk5frp6-3Q

>>15467690
goddamn that's beautiful. Oldspace MOGGED.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McM3CfDjGs0
how do we stop them?

>>15467690
its the same schizo with multiple personalities

>>15467687
Kill them all, starting with FAA headquaters. Godspeed anon

>>15467723
Cringe

would be nice if there was a coordinated effort to sage the thread off of page 1 as much as possible since this turbofag clearly can't use the catalog

just to keep things consistent and get some quicker response from jannies, what category would you report its posts as? hypothetically speaking of course; I'm way too lazy to actually do anything
>off topic
>trolling
>spamming/flooding
>extremely low quality

and mods should care more, as there's DEFINITELY some ban evasion going on. the posts get deleted (almost) every thread and then they're already back for the next one

>>15466968
What's this pic OP? I don't recognize it.

>>15467513
>This and Columbia were preventable management decisions.
They were not preventable, affirmative action is the law, competency is banned by law in favor of employing women and blacks. A woman made the decision that destroyed Columbia, Challenger was intentionally detonated on order to give NASA breathing room to create the software needed to operate HST

>>15467758
fuck off. Here's another one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDs7D9hqDLE

>>15467700
Nobody says that but many think like that. It's not just this board, it's most of the science™ enjoyers out there.

>>15467375
Why do rocket designers hate windows? Didn't the mercury astronauts have to fight to have windows on the capsules?

>>15467760
just ignore it? much easier
just ignore it completely, dont' reply, don't respond even with non-replies or discuss them at all
just ignore them like you would any other bad/boring post

>>15467767
And there was a big contingent against putting cameras on the Voyagers

>>15467766
I don't think it, I assume most other /sfg/ anons don't think it.
You just made it up.

https://www.space.com/uae-asteroid-mission-details-landing-2034

>>15467767
a lot harder to design a leak free, pressure-rated joint between metal and glass - rather than to just weld metal over the hole - especially when you're extremely constrained by your mass budget. a window is always going to be at least 3-4x heavier than the same area being a monolithic part of the pressure vessel, while also adding failure modes with the seals between different materials. glass is also a terrible structural material with low tensile strength and extreme brittleness, meaning even more weight in the form of reinforcement.

>>15467775
Don't lie scienceboi, you can't wait to leave this planet and jet through the galaxy with your robowaifu. The same space dreams have been sold before to the boomers and gen-x that came before you. Nothing came out of it in the end, except Star Wars and Star Trek movieslop. That's all you will ever get in this life, possibly livestreamed into your vaxxed brain, I know many of you are vaxxed and primed for the upcoming psyops.

>>15467779
>2034
a nothing. Whatever happened to their mars orbiter, is that still working? Did ever find anything new or are their spacecraft just national pride projects?

>>15467779
>2 weeks + 10 years
trust the plan and remember this post when you drive to your wagecage tomorrow.

>>15467781
maybe spinqueers, not most anons, or me. None of your shit ever sticks because you're aiming it at people you made up. If you spent any time at all reading what people actually posted here, you'd know this. because you don't, you sound utterly deranged.

>>15467748
Or multiple schizos that got 3-day vacations at the same time when a jannie bothered to check the reports.

>>15467764

Reminder that China sees Starship as an existential threat. "What if they can triple their space assets by 2025". And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

>>15467780
>glass is also a terrible structural material
that's why most space windows are made of synthetic sapphire

>>15467804
no its the same schizo and he just uses his phone to post half the time
you can see this on /pol/ when it makes space threads

posting it again.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=r0-Tsw7I2EU

>>15467841
oops, wrong link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0-Tsw7I2EU

>>15467843

Reminder that there's still no solid evidence of actual ice on the moon, not even in the shadowed craters at the poles.
There's only some indirect evidence of maybe hydroxide ions, and possibly hydrogen.

>>15467779
inb4 barebones mission built by an american university

Tell me how far off this is and if I've missed anyone.

>>15467979
hullo is a faggot so his rating will automatically go down a bit
also not very good production quality, even if the content is good (sometimes)
what is in A, I think I've seen that before but don't remember what they are, neither F

pew pew

>>15467979
Where does Isaac Arthur go

>>15468005
scifi doesnt belong on the list

>>15467996
the fact that he has near a near encyclopedic knowledge and understanding of aerospace stuff counters that.
He's also a DJ, a pilot, has two kids and a wife, and works in a competitive field unrelated to all of that stuff.
I mean, just look at his headshape, he's high IQ.
>>15468005
G tier

>>15468018
>He's also a DJ, a pilot, has two kids and a wife, and works in a competitive field
Hullo, Scott

>>15467979
did you forget about me?

>>15468018

>>15467979
Missing Kurzgesagt

>>15468024
If I wanted to include him I'd have to extend the list down to z.

>>15467996
>he doesn't recognize angry
go back.

>>15468018
still a faggot

>>15468035
oh yeah
I don't watch that fag, so no wonder
F tier

>>15468005

>>15467924
I feel bad for Astra. I had high hopes for them.

>>15467765
Where are the videos, Robert?

>>15467764
>Challenger was intentionally detonated on order to give NASA breathing room to create the software needed to operate HST
What kind of weird conspiracy theory is this?

>>15467979
lol, now rank the space twitter trannies

>>15468018
>the fact that he has near a near encyclopedic knowledge and understanding of aerospace stuff counters that.
Lmfao he does not. He just regurgitates wikipedia

>>15468053
not bankrupt yet

>>15467996
I like Hullo's production. It's just straight to the point, which is better than distractingly overproduced content like Marcus House and CSI Starbase, as well as underproduced stuff like Gunnerson.

>>15468071
you're thinking of estronaut.
scott manley can give you the rough diameter of jupiter off the top of his head.

>>15467780
I don’t buy for a minute that we can’t make leak free pressure vessels out of glass. I go to the aquarium and they have 30 foot wide windows holding back thousands of tons of water day in and day out for decades. Too heavy? sure, but now it’s just a game of cost.

>>15467762
>>15467082
GM lunar rover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5869l2cKLZw
https://www.motortrend.com/news/gm-lockheed-martin-lunar-rover-virtual-first-drive-review/

>posted 2 years ago
OOF

>>15468170
they'll probably pitch this when NASA has it's rover competition. It'll be ludicrously expensive and they'll insist on cost plus.
That reminds me, will they have to build a rover that can fit in starship AND blue moon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHraywTrhUU

>spend tens of millions of dollars literally reinventing the wheel
>tears itself to shreds in less than 20 miles

IGNORE THIS THREAD
>it's about populating mars with one ship and some seeds

>>15468216
classic JPL. I wonder who will replace them once all the engineering boomers retire.

crewed Chinese flight to the Heavenly Palace tomorrow

>>15467979
You missed Mars Guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ3TrmOe_sw

/sfg/ è morto

>>15467453
>What are you gonna listen to for OFT-2?
Real-time crowded jetty ambiance and OFT-2, with about a 25-second sound delay

>>15468005
Into his own category disconnected from this ordering. He's quite harmless and his content is forward looking positive longtermism.

>>15467120
What AI is this that takes hand drawings as an input?

>>15467979
Cost Plus Content has been dead for a year.
No idea who are A, C, E or F. Post names faggot.

>>15468216
Mass autism is a terrible thing.

>>15468262
Stable Diffusion
+
ControlNet extension

well? https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/can-spacex-grasshopper-rocket-save-taxpayers-50-billion-or-more-2014-08-02

>>15467979
significantly less crusty version
>>15468267
I was going to, I even have it in my clipboard, however, I've decided that I'm just going to tell you to kill yourself instead.

>>15467979
name a good reason why CSI so low

>>15468320
Nigger.

>>15468293
your tierlist is shit and you should feel bad
this is objective fact

Angry astronaut is a faggot, cost plus content is not making content anymore so shouldnt be on that list at all, hullo is a fag which he has demonstrated multiple times

>>15468321
does not apply
he's a rare black man who's not a nigger

>>15468329
even if this is true, he's also borderline CSS in regards to musk.

>>15468262
>>15468277
Not just hand drawn too

Any image >>15468039 to any

>>15468335
Right over a rocket is the best seat.

instead of asking ourselves "does this component work in the radioactive vacuum of space?" we should be asking ourselves "can we stick this component in a lead lined pressure vessel and never have to think about it again?"

>>15468108
can he? in his videos you can see he is reading off a screen from his eye movements and he is open about prepping scripts with research before recording

>>15468348
And one of those components is all the people who keep filing environmental lawsuits against Starbase.

>>15467812
for china everybody and everything is a threat. that is one of the many, MANY downsides of paranoid dictatorships

>>15468352
looking back, you might be onto something. If he is doing this he's one scummy faggot. That specific reference was for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs84Nsu4m3c
at 14:39

>>15466968
Wouldnt it be easier and cheaper to send more simple forms of life like single celled bacteria to other habitable planets? The goal being wanting to secure all life instead of just human life on other planets. The trip to other systems could last for millions of years and sending humans for this kind of journey seems risky.

>>15468417
Why would aliens be laughing at nuclear power?

Post realistic spaceships from Sci-Fi
>matter-antimatter engines
>realstic fuckhuge radiators
>tensile structure to save mass
>crew quarters far away from reactor

It's insane to think how 1980-2020 gave us almost nothing in terms of human spaceflight progress, not a single major worthwhile fucking thing.

>>15468430
>giant kettles

>>15468436
Spaceflight is extremely expensive and the world (the U.S. especially) has been looming closer and closer to an economic cataclysm

Musk only proved relatively recently that you don't have to discard rocket parts at all. And now MOXIE's success on mars proves you don't have to worry about carrying fuel for return trips either.

We have entered the industrial revolution of spaceflight, NASA is just too corrupt and mindfucked by boomerthink to see the writing on the wall. Wait a few more years and constant superheavy-class to ket launches and rocket assembly line mass-production will be a thing. We are almost there, hold on.

>to ket
Rocket*

>>15468436
NASA purposefully tried to monopolize human spaceflight for itself, the result was disaster, because their incentives were messed up. The NASA administrator that was looking into launching humans on multiple smaller commercial rockets instead of one big NASA made one got quietly shuffled away to another job, thus the shuttle. Much later, commercial crew was a very near thing. It's pork all the way down.

>>15468338
are we talking about the same guy?

>>15468481
Do you feel in charge?

>>15468481
It's interesting that the spinfags actually went out of their way to try and drag mars underground/mars direct through the mud, while there aren't any records of Zubrin or the mars society even mentioning spinqueers. I guess they were busy with other things.

>>15468484
I'm pretty sure, wasn't he the guy that said pad repairs would take years? I just remember seeing his twitter screencaps.

>>15468322
>t. assblasted csi-n-word stan

>watching nbc news video about space
>they keep claiming that china has a base on the moon
why are they like this

>>15468534
>watching legacy media
lmao

what were the soviets planning to launch with energia anyways. were they working on huge spy sats?

Do O'Neillites have a mars society equivalent? I feel like if Jeff had gone to them instead of the explorers club they could have set him straight. The annual conventions would be kino.

>>15467453
I'm going to open 30 rekt videos on repeat in other tabs. It's the sound of earther souls being purified and leaving a world made of dirt.

Alternatively, the "oh, Bill" thing.

>>15468540
orbital weapons platforms.

>>15467979
How is Marcus House C and WAI F? Don't they basically put out the same kind of weekly 20-minute Starship clickbait update videos?

>>15467812
Governments the world over are quietly shitting their pants about Starlink as well, and within the last five years that's already become one of the most significant space assets.

>>15467723
Pretty good! I'm something of a classical music enjoyer myself.

I hope Martians really are warlike. If Mars unites against the nations of Earth and controls space it has some chance of independence.

>>15468557
WAI does videos more than weekly, and is infinitely less tolerable than house. House is still a bit faggy, but at least his videos are information dense and he doesn't put his ugly mug front and center.

>>15467979
Estronaut is S tier
He's soi but his content is great

>>15468557
WAI is far cringier, the WAI 'family' thing especially so

>>15468529
yes I think so
generally he has been very pessimistic on timelines, but I don't remember him being anti-elon
haven't watched a lot of him though, I find the presentation style a bit annoying (talking to characters acted by him)

>>15468544
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society
Which was later rolled up into the National Space Society.

>>15468530
csi n-word is in about the right place

>>15468005
I saw him heading towards a portapotty with a fork and spoon.

>>15468534
sure, and the US has several bases on mars

>>15468557
WAI seems clueless

>>15468540
>>15468547
Polyus was intended to be first of a class. Also Buran was supposed to be a station builder/ferry for Mir like the Shuttle ended up being for the ISS.

>>15468579
His video where he went through every type of rocket engine design was really nice. I need to rewatch it sometime

>>15468585
seems very soulless, they should have stayed as the L5 society, much cooler name. They even let Zubrin into their conferences, I think they've abandoned cylinders altogether.

>>15468585
kek

>>15467979

cost plus content is dead, primal sapce is meh curious droid isn't really space, space.com is professional service space with spacenews/berger/etc tier while this list is more fan/hobbyist
dunno what the rocket icon is

terrible bait

>>15468618
F tier should be ISRO streams.

>>15468633
isro streams are based

>>15468645
designated shitty streams

>>15468618
rocket icon is labpadre, obviously, who should be far above NSF. No one sane can bear to listen to NSF livestreams.
You also seem to like soi and niggers.

>>15468529
Yeah, he was worried the repairs would take up to a year.
He just did not have the information SpaceX already had the deluge system designed, manufactured and basically ready to install before the launch
If they started all that work afterwards, in response to the rapid unscheduled excavation, it easily could have taken up to a year
>>15468584
>talking to characters acted by him
this is a surprisingly common bit in spaceflight youtubers
Pressure Fed and Angry do these too

Get me off this shitty planet

>>15468216
Why do they not use tracks instead?

>>15468676
mass budget

>>15468587
he should be in tier N

>>15468506
>Spincels: "I feel bad for you"
>Marschads: "I don't think about you at all."

>>15468712
>Marschads

So why does NASA still exist? Its not the 60s, we have SpaceX

>>15468355
let's compact the FAA in there as well

>>15468745
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1661809724000534551
>NASA continues to experience significant scope growth, cost increases, and schedule delays on its booster and RS-25 engine contracts, resulting in approximately $6 billion in cost increases and over 6 years.

NASA is still doing the job congress has intended for them. They've been doing this since the seventies and they've become very efficient at being very inefficient.

>>15468430
>12 041 sun rotations
>heating water with radiactive material
>not even fusion
Ayyy lmao

>>15468728

>>15468725
>no other power source
>what is SMRs

get a lot of this oldspace boomer

>>15468725
Feels weird to think about future humans living in underground vaults in fucking Mars.

>>15468661
acting characters is gay

>>15468745
NASAs mission should be science missions and not building shitty rockets
but lately they have been cutting everything else and use all the money on the shitty rocket which just keeps getting more and more expensive

rate h8 (stable diffusion)

original art do not steal lol

>>15468850
The dude is clearly a fag. I mean tglhe kind that takes cocks in their ass

>>15468862
source material from somewhere else, dont remember exact

>>15468435
DIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6H1TxRGLUc

>>15468862
congratulations; you took >>15468868 and made it look significantly worse. truly, AI will replace all artists

>>15468892
is this 40 year old man trying not to wake up his mother?

>Global dust storms can block 99% of the light hitting the surface tho this is rare. 95% blockages can last for weeks. That said, most global dust storms reduce sunlight by 90% or less. 70% reductions which can last for months are typical.
https://marspedia.org/Atmosphere
Good luck with that solar power lmao

>>15468774
>>15468854
$6B in overruns developing an engine that's already been developed... imagine how many science missions we could have for that much.

>>15468836
>Large scale anchored pressure structure. The low pressure structure allows for the existence of the lake and eventually surface life forms. The structure covers a smaller Earth pressure habitat seen in the foreground.
The low pressure structure would be CO2 from the atmosphere pumped up to, say, 0.3 bar - about what is found at the top of Mt. Everest so that pressure suits wouldn't be needed, just oxygen masks

>>15468930
2

>>15468933
we could have -4 billion JWSTs

>>15468933
More like none. They would have just given it to JPL so it could get dumped into their big Mars sample return mission.

after casey left jpl, it was all over

>>15468467
>the world (the U.S. especially) has been looming closer and closer to an economic cataclysm
partially right but also spectacularly wrong in scale and scope

>>15468862
>>15468868

hello fellow /sdg/ user
(you are /sdg/, right?)

>>15468417
all sorts of shit are going to travel with human monkeys anyway as every single body hosts a entire ecosystem on its own. From the skin to the shit you take.

also besides basic lego blocks of life are pretty much scattered around everywhere even in this solar system. This alludes to them traveling with start formation dust clouds. Which means all it really takes for simple life is for goodish enough conditions for carbon to gather the gang together. This theory about earth being really, REALLY special is nothing more then the continuation of old narcissistic geocentrism

>>15468467
>looming closer and closer to an economic cataclysm
just two more weeks to go doomerbros

>>15467661
Hot (turbine blade temperature)

>>15468941
cancel both SLS and JPL
JPL has become too much of a porky jobs program that eats all funding to do their retarded missions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK_9bTihCOA

Arguing with some Russian autist who thinks the N-1 was better than Starship

>>15469056
Don't overthink it, the Russian approach to another country exceeding them is that they somehow cheated, and if they haven't succeeded yet, they'll latch onto any apparent cause of failure as proof of Russian superiority. Just watch for the narrative shift when Starship succeeds to be something about Musk having access to infinite secret DoD money or some shit.

>>15469056
ask him when he believes angara will start flying, or any new rocket for that matter
>>15469058
I hate russians so much it's unreal

>>15469056
An embarrassment to all three of us N-1 aficionados in this thread that do not mindlessly ignore its many, and massive flaws

>>15469075
That's how it goes with any of the few good things Russia has ever made. They can't disconnect their personal ego and national pride from objective physical performance. The Japanese used to be similarly awful until we beat it out of them in 1945 so I think it's a Mongoloid blood curse.

>>15469075
Wasn't the only good part of the N-1 the engines
Weren't they Ukrainian

>>15469114
n-1 engines were shit and were one of the main big reasons it didnt work

>>15469119
Oh so they must be Russian then

>>15469119
The engines had good theoretical performance but the retarded single use pyro valves made them impossible to test. I think the NK-33 as flown on Antares fixed that flaw.

>>15469114
NK-33 were amazing engines, but they never flew with the N-1F. NK-15s could only be fired once and caused massive issues for testing (no test stand, no static fires and so on). N-1 was an amazing overcomplicated mess whose father died before it could (mostly) leave blueprints, all its design features are compromises and no other rocket in history got so far like it. From its electronic throttling control instead of gimballing, to the massive amount of engines, to the spherical tanks due to manufacturing issues. It's just insane, I wish it could've flown without blowing up once, the fifth probably really would've been it.
>Weren't they Ukrainian
Korolev was ukrainian too, but I think it's a bit pointless to think about it before the split-up, a very large chunk of (space) manufacturing soviets had was in ukraine at the time.
>>15469107
They probably don't have much else to attach to, unlike the japanese that at least seem to fit in with the western world.

>>15469129
>NK-33 were amazing engines
Overrated engines, as shown by Antares' issues with them.

>>15469120
1/2
When it's working, it's Russian-American rocket "Antares"...

>>15469131
They seem to work fine on the Soyuz. I think the problem was Orbital's buying unflightworthy engines and their "conversion", but I don't really know anything about it in detail.

>>15469131
That had less to do with the engine's mechanical soundness and more to do with the fact that the engines in question were over forty years old and had only survived because they'd been hidden away for decades in an unmarked Soviet warehouse.

.>>15469120
>>15469135
..but when it blows up, it's Ukranian-American rocket "Antares"!

>>15469129
Indeed they don't. All of their cultural output aside from some medieval folk traditions is the result of some of their tyrants force-marching them into the future centuries at a time. The average Russian who hasn't emigrated at this point is half medieval serf and half Mongol pillager, with a heaping dose of Soviet dysfunction on top.

>>15469136
Soyuz 2-1v only, and those engines are also 40 years old.

>>15469141
>half medieval serf and half Mongol pillager
Sounds pretty comfy desu

>>15469145
Until you try to get them to do anything technically complex and you wish for some more competent workers instead. It's why Elon lets the Mexicans weld steel rings but not build Raptor internals.

>>15469154

>>15469170
>The rocket was launched
>It landed in the swamp
>How well you pay
>Is how good the work

>>15469170
>hammer to a bolt
So are they literally just putting lobotomites to work on rockets?

>>15467979
>S
>not being cost plus content, RGV and markus
discarded, hope you kill yourself

>>15469179
It's an old Soviet meme, the joke is "if they pretend to pay us we will pretend to work."

>>15469179
So how much do you know about Russian rocket failures? At least one was a direction sensor that was installed upside-down.
It was keyed specifically so you couldn't do that with it.

>>15469179
That's the joke
>you pay us shit
>you get shit work

>>15469186
I dont give my attention or care to irrelevant countries in the space race. Its not the 60s anymore, and the N1 never even actually flew

>>15467705
>>15467756
Based?

>>15469135
>>15469138
haha, brit*sh people have a joke about doing the same thing. When a scottish person wins something, they're british, but if they lose they're scottish

>>15469235
same with Quebec

>>15468293
>Angry
>A

>>15469260
he has sovl.

>>15469266
He is e-begging in EVERY video to move to Yurop and be even worse at his job

>>15468339
that Musk thumger is going to live in my nightmares
when the AI tries to take over our shibboleth will be "draw a human hand or die!"

>>15468417
This will make a fine addition to my collection

>>15469310
>>15468417

>>15468931
what do you do about the martian regolith?

>>15468417

>>15469310
kek, does anyone have a compilation of astra failures, somehow a lot of them are hilarious.

>>15469315
What about it? You mean the perchlorates? Non-issue.

>>15469310
starship OFT belong to the collection as well
it's practically the same as >>15469310
with less pronounced powerslide

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1662992937850904579

RIP. ITS OVER

>>15469343

>>15469351
you're laughing at your own post?

>>15469325
have a list, might make a webm later.
>stealth space company larp, two failures and ground impacts thirty secs in, no payload, reason unknown.
>failed DARPA challenge, then left a valve open. suicides on pad.
>software issue in guidance system. Crashes into part of launch facility.
>bad fuel mixture, failed to achieve orbit by 500m/s dV. ASTRA begins to cope with MECO=success.
>rocket drift, the best one.
>SUCCESS! the first of many
>nope, second stage forces its way out of stuck fairing, spins out of control, customer sat loss.
>ANOTHER SUCCESS! the last failure was just a fluke! customer payload deployed!
>nope, engine kills itself 1km/s before orbit, TROPICS destroyed, NASA contract withdrawn. kemp malding. Rocket 3 taken out back and shot.

/sfg/ is in cryosleep

>>15469474
en route to Callisto

>>15468862
Pity is stable diffusion and not real art stuff
>>15468792
Are you one of those retard faggots that not also think that aliens are real but also le noble angelic angel?

>>15468435
I like the magical rocket of Avatar a lot more than the Pedepstein drive desu

>>15469347
Ripperoni
Weird to see the whole life cycle of that building, I remember when it went up.

>>15467979
Genuine question, what's wrong with Curious Droid?

>>15468435
The deceleration/skycrane scene was unbelievably cool

>>15469555
Well its temporary structure for a reason

>>15469542
https://dailyrobotcompliment.com/David

>>15469542
*angelic alien

Live in 60 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGRsTQyrVL4
The launch of the GSLV-F12/NVS-01 mission is scheduled on Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:42 hours IST from the second launch pad at SDSC-SHAR, Sriharikota. This Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV) mission is designed to deploy the NVS-01 navigation satellite, weighing about 2232 kg, into a Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit. Subsequent orbit raising maneuvers will be used for taking the satellite to the intended orbit.

NVS-01 is the first of the second-generation satellites envisaged for the Navigation with Indian Constellation (NavIC) services. NVS series of satellites will sustain and augment the NavIC with enhanced features. This series incorporates L1 band signals additionally to widen the services. For the first time, an indigenous atomic clock will be flown in NVS-01.

>>15469585
https://twitter.com/sdhrthmp/status/1662777133679386624

Here's your religious ceremony

>>15467364
Why not cameras on the outside and monitors on the interior?

>>15467311

>>15467979
The Space Race?

>>15469560
Doesn't really cover space exclusively, also is a bit of an earther.

>>15469611

I made a gift for you guys.

>>15469585
streaming

>>15469696

>>15469698
>hammertime

>>15469696
would

Good luck, poos.

>>15469728
In before unexpected failure mode like an SRB exploding

>>15469729
Extra unexpected seeing as the GSLV doesn't even have SRBs, kek

woosh

liftoff

>>15469736

>>15469739
sep

>>15469741

So when does it land on the boat in the ocean?

>>15469744

>>15469748

>>15469749

>>15469560
This, he should have been higher. He does a good job and he is serious

>>15469748
phew! this is a return-to-flight for the GSLV-II after more than a year. The previous flight failed because the third cryo-stage failed to ignite.

>>15469750
from earlier

>>15469753
That third cryo stage is a weird one, it burns for ages with tiny thrust while the other two stages basically just throw it up as high as they can

cryo stage performance normal

>>15469758

>>15469761
satsep

buh bye

Well that was boring, as it should be. Good job, ISRO

>>15469756
yeah, similar tradeoff on the Ariane 5/6, which is why you get that altitude dip as the upper stage is firing.

>>15469768
That whole setup would be a lot more capable if the first stage wasn't a solid core center burning for 100 seconds with four pressure fed hypergolic liquid boosters that burn for 150 seconds.

>>15469682
thank you very cool

Good morning sirs

>>15469186
That Proton gyro went in with a very large mallet.

>>15469753
>after more than a year.
jesus has it really been that long

>>15469813
Now THIS is shitposting

>>15469813
ЛИTЁM

>>15469751
Should watch his latest videos talking shit about Musk and the launch pad

>>15469560
ate is face. at is voice. simple as

for the anon asking for Blsck Arrow chan

>>15469858
w o u l d
also
m o r e

>>15469858
Wtf is Black Arrow some Marvel shit??

>>15469851
And what was wrong with it?

https://twitter.com/NosaerFodnus/status/1662912281888301061

>>15467979
>no apogee
>no BPS space
>no isaac arthur
dropped

reminder that joe is the first person to land a solid rocket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH3lR2GLgT0

>>15469917
context: this is some boomer that really hates elon

>>15469919
No shit. Just enjoy life knowing you dont irrationally seethe at people for stupid tribalistic politics, and that you will be getting off this planet away from retards like him with SpaceX at the helm. Life is good

>lowbay completely flattened
ITS OVER!!!

holy schizo kino
1h 12 min lmaoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr1N9CcvKXM

maybe some missed it, but in this interview musk talks about mars a bit starting at 13:50
not really sure how long, probably like 5 minutes, but the topic I think comes up every now and then with respect to something else for like 20min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDy7s1SDDn4

>>15469896
>Starship destroyed it's launchpad!, Never again shall space x rise from it's ashes, a destroyed launchpad? Game over Musk!, there is no way a company accustomed to losing entire rockets can recover from the high cost of a few thousand pounds of concrete!

https://twitter.com/AshleyKillip/status/1663104870810025984

> At the Sanchez build site they are constructing what looks to be a ramp type structure. What is interesting is the steel box section was sitting with thick uniform square stainless plates with the label "Flame Diverter"

>>15469542
If I wanted Mulder hunting demons I'd just watch Millennium.

>>15469967
What are you talking about?

>>15469997
Cutouts mean it's being shaped to fit somewhere

>>15470002
Based

>>15470014
redpilled

>>15470006
That was the gist of Curious Droid's video about the Starship test launch

>indian, chinese, south korean and north korean launches in recent days
interesting...

Daily reminder that the Apollo program was a technological miracle, a feat that should have been "impossible" by 20th century standards.

>>15469921
>sepia lunar dust
>no moon roggs anywhere
>might as well be a warm sandy desert on earth
>3 vacuum raptors and no sea level raptors when we've known for years about 6-rvac starship
>weird shading like there's some sort of atmospheric light diffracting, on the moon everything is either 100% bright or 100% shadow with very sharp boundaries
an AI could do better; 4/10

>>15470048
Peak Apollo funding year would be about $83B as a fraction of todays GDP.

>>15470070
This. It was all to dab on the USSR.
They have more intricate technologies today but rely heavily on balding billionaires.

>>15468236
Mars guy is easily S tier

https://twitter.com/mcrs987/status/1663005791643746305

>>15470074
Without the Cold War the first man in space would have happened in the late 90s and no Moon landing even today

>>15470096
would probably be thought to be close to impossible lol

>>15470113
You'd have probes going there in the 80s and a rover in the 90s, maybe a sample return before 2010

>>15469874
it's a bong rocket from ages ago

>>15469754
>pictures you can smell

>>15469347
>>15470084
it's a weird feeling. like seeing the hospital your kid was born in getting torn down, in preparation for a newer and better one

>>15470048
all tanks to Ubermensch engineers from Europe. SLS is a typical American rocket for comparison

>>15469560
he was in game of thrones which is popular therefor he bad

>>15470156
some forgot the esa exists

>>15470214
The Ubermenschen were already expatriated long before eesa started.

>>15469682
Impressive. Very nice.

>>15470214
PeeSA is french. You need Germans to launch rockets.

>>15469873
AtlasV400Series-chan

Good morning sirs, I found cool footage of Skylab and felt compelled to share.
Better quality video: https://files(dot)catbox(dot)moe/sl4lr4.mp4

>>15470273
so much cooler than iss

https://youtu.be/3ZhPXsBBl4E
tune in NOW

>>15470038
norks? didn't hear about that one

>>15470300
what's up with the anime girl?

>>15470300
clear is the best
i wish she was more popular

Artemis needs to HURRY UP.
https://spacenews.com/china-sets-sights-on-crewed-lunar-landing-before-2030/

https://spacenews.com/china-sets-sights-on-crewed-lunar-landing-before-2030/

> “Recently, the moon landing phase of China’s crewed lunar exploration program has started. The main goal is to send Chinese astronauts to land on the moon for the first time by 2030,” Lin Xiqiang, deputy director of the China Manned Space Agency (CMSA), told media at a press conference at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center May 29.

> “This includes the development of a new generation manned carrier rocket, namely the Long March 10 launch vehicle, a new generation crew spacecraft, a lunar lander, a moon suit and other spaceflight products. The construction of a new launch site and tests on related launch facilities are also underway.”

The lunar lander
https://youtu.be/ZWy9Gqeo6y0?t=752

> A low Earth orbit variant of the rocket newly designated the Long March 10, based on the five-meter-diameter Long March 5, is expected to have a test flight in 2027. A pair of three-stage, triple-core Long March 10 variants for trans-lunar injection (27 tons to TLI) will be used to launch the landing stack and crewed segments of the lunar landing mission. China has already carried out a full scale boiler plate test of the new-gen spacecraft.

> “The goal also includes carrying out lunar scientific exploration and related technological experiments, mastering key technologies such as Earth-Moon crewed round-trips, lunar surface short-term stays, and human-robot joint exploration as well as completing multiple missions such as landing, roving, sampling, researching and returning, so as to form an independent crewed lunar exploration capability,” said Lin.

>>15470350
how shit is going with SLS, the chinese might very well land on the moon before USA does with artemis

>>15470356
I think they're saying "2030" but the actual date is actually MUCH closer to Artemis III timeline. For the simple fact that they already have a Orion+ capsule (which was announced today) and plan on using two long march 10s rather than one super heavy to launch the mission.

>>15470361

2031 is the cited date for their ILRS-1 mission with Russia, with the implication that they already landed a crew on the lunar surface by then

>>15470353
>>15470350
We need to delay SpaceX by another 2 years because

Can we please just colonize a tidally locked eyeball planet? Life would be so much easier with constant sunlight and no seasons, no night.

>>15470406
There was some study recently that suggested that eyeball planets flip sometimes. I wouldn't want to be on one when that happens, seems pretty catastrophic.

>>15470336
I wish I understood what the fuck she was talking about.

>>15470406
>>15470411
here it is, if anyone is interested.

software allowing overweight unemployed japanese men to change their voice and appear as anime girls on the internet and its consequences has been a disaster for this general

>>15470426
Why?

>>15470426
you can summarize this statement with the following:
clear(ly a man)

>>15470433
because (you) are shitting up /sfg/ for viewers

>>15470331
she's cool

>>15470426
is it so strange that one could appreciate an earnest attempt to share enthusiasm and knowledge about this hobby without being an enormous retarded simp who jacks off to the anime waifu

>>15470441
that could be achieved with far less complexity by simply streaming launches and having informed commentary and/or conversation overlaid onto it.

>>15470446
yes but you see I find this virtual avatar technology to be incredibly humorous

>>15470447
theres an entire board for you. there is no need to crowbar it into here.

>>15470096
Without the Cold War we never would have had manned capsules - the basic capsule design is derived from biconic reentry stages for ICBMs. It would be a slow series of suborbital spaceplanes to partially reusable TSTO spaceplanes to fully reusable TSTO spaceplanes and then orbital propellant depots.

>>15470420
Been on /sci/ for years and only just realised you can post PDFs here

>>15470461
That sounds better actually. Capsules are dead-end tech to the extent that they promote expendability.

>>15470463
They also allow filthy Russians to pretend they can compete in manned flight.

>>15470463
Capsules are fine. There's no inherent reason why you couldn't refurbish a capsule after splashdown and reuse it. Actually, wait - do they reuse Dragons? Why not?