/sci/ - Science & Math

>CMB is the same temperature at all points in time
Nope.
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2011A%26A...526L...7N/abstract
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009ApJ...705.1122L/abstract
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2022Natur.602...58R/abstract
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2020AstL...46..715K/abstract

Pathetic how they squirm. Just like the geocentrists who refused to conceed for hundreds of years and even burned alive those who understood the truth. Truly pathetic this glitch in human social systems how they bow to the illogic of their misinformed ancestors for social status even when the errors are readily apparent. They will say "the expansion of the Universe exactly cancels the higher temperature predicted of the CMB" and then when the illogic of that is shown they will show cherry picked data from their non-reproducible and fake-science journals, or even try and preempt the argument entirely. To all observers of goodwill & faith know that they are lying to you.

Our universe is an infinite and eternal fractal. And yes, atoms are essentially galaxies and inward forever.

>>15453722
>and inward forever.

And outward forever.

They deny the truth to make you their slaves. To leave you in a state of need for their explanations. They lie for social status, and power, and to appeal to their ancient authorities, and to fund their fake missions.

>CMB is the same temperature at all points in time
And where is you confirmed this? You've dismissed journal articles, so obviously you can show us your original analysis showing this.

The uniformity of the CMB has always been its defining characteristic:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23230970-900-cosmic-coincidences-everythings-at-the-same-temperature/#:~:text=THE%20temperature%20of%20the%20cosmic,from%20a%20chilly%202.725%20kelvin.

Everyone knows that, including the liars and gaslighters who try and get in front of "their cattle" (which is what they think of us) with cherry picked, lying papers when "the cattle" get wise to how utterly ridiculous it all is.

In the meantime the human race in totality suffers from their arrogance and elitism.

The wonder and marvel of our fractal universe holds infinite potential for study and exploration as soon these fucking filth parasites stop hogging the attention and resource like the filthy fucking swine that they are.

This is not fake outrage. We are dealing with literal parasitic filth who rob humanity of its potential and replace it with fairy tales meant to appeal to their long dead ancestors.

We live in an infinite and eternal fractal universe. This is an absolute marvel and they hide this from you. They lie to you and gaslight you. They burned men like me alive because we spoke the truth and now their lies.

>>15453757
Nope, says nothing about it being constant in time. Uniform=/= constant in time. Try again.

It's interesting you dismiss all "non-reproducible and fake-science journals" and then unironically cite pop-sci trash articles. Where is the actual observational evidence?

To those of goodwill & faith: completely and utterly ignore the "scientific establishment" and their lies.

What you have felt is true.

This universe is a unified, infinite and eternal unified substance. You are a subset of the infinite. You all are the "center" of this universe - which has no center. You are soveign. You are eternal. You are infinite. You are free.

Your life was no accident & you are powerful beyond all their systems of measure.

Every letter of their lies is designed to keep you in the dark, subservient, slavish, reliant, oppressed, depressed.

Know the truth & be well.

>>15453792
And what is the truth?

If only you schizos would learn enough of the science to make real, useful critiques of the actual problem with some views about cosmology, instead of just being retarded.

>>15454773
Useful critiques such as? The perceived perfect balance and situation for life in our solar system seems to be proof to me we're not exploding outwards into nothingness from some explosion that came from nothing for no reason at all

you should look into the eternal inflation model. it accounts for the observed expansion of the universe without having to introduce some mechanism by which matter is magically created constantly.

>>15454773
>science
>cosmology
choose one

>>15454771
>And what is the truth?

Steady state, infinite & eternal fractal universe. Atoms are essentially galaxies, inward and outward forever. Red shift is simply light losing energy to the depths of the fractal. CMB is radiation emanating from the infinite depth of our universe.

I'm not here to debate. All the debating has already been done. What I have said is accurate and will only be confirmed more and more with the passing years, centuries and millenia.

>>15454806
Steady state model was rejected because it is inconsistent with observed data, see pic. It has nothing to do with atheism or theism. For a while there were a couple of competing camps, but now it's just some jewish guy that denies the big bang, I can't remember his name. Asserting infinite past is a meaningless philosophical conjecture as nothing 'infinite' can ever be measured or observed.

>>15455606
>it's just some jewish guy

Why the antisemitism?

"I believe everything I read in Wikipedia and mainstream outlets because I don't think critically" is the exact mindset that allowed geocentrism to flourish for hundreds of years even when the evidence against it was blatant.

You can find extensive "proofs" for the ridiculous theory of flat earth on their forums, too.

Big bang theory is that, but on a civilizational scale. Big Bangers reeeeally reeeeeally want a moment of creation to be true and they LITERALLY bend space time and reality itself to conform the evidence to their preconceived worldview.

We live in a fractal universe. The orbital velocity of an electron around its nucleus is the same as a star around a galactic nucleus.

If you shrunk a galaxy down to the size of an atom while conserving the momentum of all movement within it, it wouldn't be like an atom. It would be an atom. They are the same darn thing just at different scales. Scale is the 5th dimension.

I'm saying this because it's true. Not because I want it to be true. I think it's weird as fuck.

Now, we can either explore the bizarre nature of our reality or keep pounding sand like we have for the last 100+ years.

I have already made my choice. How about you?

>>15455742

sºyence is fake af

>>15455742
Atoms don't actually look like that.
https://structuredatom.org/

>>15455742
What happens when someone passes a current through us?

>>15455606
>Asserting infinite past is a meaningless philosophical conjecture
the Big Bang asserts infinite past

>>15453602
The CMB is due to the oceans of the Earth and the galactic foreground.

>>15456471
>What happens when someone passes a current through us?

What do you mean? Electric current is just a movement of the aether (FYI: Once you start recognizing this stuff for what it is, modern science is jaw droppingly fraudulent. I have no idea why they put so much effort into gaslighting civilization, but that's what they are doing. Aether is blatantly real. Like, as real & obvious as air, real)

>>15457190
>The CMB is due to the oceans of the Earth and the galactic foreground.

Maybe. I suspect it's radiation from the infinite fractal depth of space... but I sure as he'll know what it is not: the after glow of "the big fake bang"

the Big Bang was an atheistic rewrite of the book of genesis written in the language of sºyence, which is the atheists' religion

>>15453722
What are you a 12 year old in the 14th century?

>>15453792
>Your life was no accident & you are powerful beyond all their systems of measure
This is the residual BBT in your brain talking. Life is an accident, there is no God.

>>15453577
The Earth is flat with a dome.
God exists.

Aliens don't exist.
Space isn't real.
Gravity doesn't exist.
Never went to the moon.
Asteroids don't exist.
UFOs are a psyop.
Nukes don't exist.
Evolution is a lie.
Germ Theory is a lie.

The world is ruled by secret societies that worship Satan. Jews/Jesuits/Freemasons/Illuminati are Gnostics and Kabbalists. Masters at deception. One satanic philosophy is inverting reality.

They make you think you live on a spinning ball.
They make you think you're just an animal.
They make you think there's a deadly virus out there.
They make you think there are gay space niggers from outer space out there.

>>15453577
Notice all these "anti-science" anons all shill the same globohomo space model. My guess is they are all aboard the electric universe which is based on the same globohomo space model we have now.

https://youtu.be/lKg-yn86zp4
https://youtu.be/p-BFmn2S_jU
https://youtu.be/BVJgObFHLY4
https://youtu.be/ru5fdfovkGI
https://youtu.be/74KRZt5oJME
https://youtu.be/tdwy-hxS-ts
https://youtu.be/UAx5cl9VpTE
https://youtu.be/JlFnJPFjcc0
https://youtu.be/XetG30_YOeo
https://youtu.be/ziVLbEoQ4Sc
https://youtu.be/k0xClWgidZU
https://youtu.be/UbYtkrTquXE
https://youtu.be/1WHIr-IFqAo
https://youtu.be/WcqKUhU0WDc
https://youtu.be/wPrDg0CtWnk
https://youtu.be/hoGTBdu7dMc
https://youtu.be/mcLwr86emds
https://youtu.be/U_bJYXS9p4A
https://youtu.be/JOqc63Pp9OA
https://odysee.com/@probablyalexandra:6/an-inconvenient-history:b
https://youtu.be/X-w8acuxF6w
https://youtu.be/nGLJ5XJP3uE
https://youtu.be/olbyJDou4qQ
https://youtu.be/0Q18iSz6mus
https://youtu.be/CLzj4PKJ2O4
https://youtu.be/aFFM3YJAs4Q
https://youtu.be/Stft_t48Hxc
https://youtu.be/OPQLFlf89s8
https://youtu.be/QWa7lTxhrKI
https://youtu.be/hyo8eKrinDM
https://youtu.be/DdLLamniSyg
https://youtu.be/udjk_FB80kM
https://youtu.be/4nKIN_eHYxw
https://youtu.be/fDBRhxryfZM
https://youtu.be/-rmDj1MJyaY
https://youtu.be/Kv9-JuLRpg0
https://youtu.be/7Eeo-82Eac8
https://youtu.be/DHhgLnIvuAs
https://youtu.be/CDG4oiCx_is
https://youtu.be/wz68Q2Nz05A
https://youtu.be/WffliCP2dU0
https://youtu.be/uUuTAflN1rU
https://youtu.be/lkmY_4PKMlY
https://youtu.be/McdMMmclGVc
https://youtu.be/Cm7fBZq-8T4
https://youtu.be/4SlRsbQ3nfM
https://youtu.be/Z36Ns7KUYHw
https://youtu.be/XhIwZuPGfss
https://youtu.be/CATklVkPEMw
https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA
https://youtu.be/ofp8qiL3dTs
https://youtu.be/WXaXnAvEpB8
https://youtu.be/gWnFMWqDRQE
https://youtu.be/EvnrD49RmAY
https://youtu.be/3wU8_jT61eE
https://youtu.be/UOLLMkAHHQI?t=2477
https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/the-rulers-and-their-secret-signs_Dr5f3CZu6CvGLgW.html
https://youtu.be/BEV2SAL8z5g

>>15457190
Its the heat signature of the Milky Way's dark matter halo

>>15458262
their religion can conveniently be change to fit any circumstance, its not a real religion, it stands for nothing and wilts upon close inspection

>>15455742
>We live in a fractal universe.
Put your hand under a microscope. Is your hand made of little hands? No. Then fractal universe = confirmation bias. Surely if you frame the universe in a particular way, not only are black holes goatse and galaxy clusters neurons, but you will somehow see shapes like vagina's and wombs confirming that nature is a woman that gave birth to us.

>>15455742
>>15455747
that is an uncomfortable thought. Sometimes I worry we could be some small bacteria growing on some giants sink and one day they decide to spray bleach and our known universe is sterilized.

Wonder if we could ever make it to the next level higher. Like if we build a massive spaceship theoretically bigger than anything in the universe, would they finnaly notice us as a small flying bug, or maybe as a virus, spreading and infecting the universe which could be a single atom in someons body.

>>15460741
>if spinelessness was a religion

>>15460741
>their religion can conveniently be change to fit any circumstance, its not a real religion, it stands for nothing and wilts upon close inspection

Correct. The thought came to me just yesterday. Atheists have abandoned the community that came with religion, while still embracing its blind dogma. Truly a hell of their own creation.

>>15460796
>Put your hand under a microscope. Is your hand made of little hands? No. Then fractal universe = confirmation bias. Surely if you frame the universe in a particular way, not only are black holes goatse and galaxy clusters neurons, but you will somehow see shapes like vagina's and wombs confirming that nature is a woman that gave birth to us.

The point of replication is from atom to galaxy. Every lower scale has a minute effect on the greater scale & vice versa so there *might* be a slight valence with each scale but probably not by much.

The true structure of an atom (not the simplified models) is blatantly that of a small, accelerated galaxy. Accelerated due to conservation of momentum... even the angular velocity of an election is virtually identical to that of a star orbiting a galactic nucleus.

>>15461968
>replication

Repetition rather

>>15461968

Lots of mis types. My apology.

>>15460818
>I worry we could be some small bacteria growing on some giants sink and one day they decide to spray bleach and our known universe is sterilized.

Don't worry about this. ALL movement is conserved into scale, and time is simply relative movement. 1 second Earth scale is something like 1 quadrillion years atomic scale. It's why I am so certain that we will find galaxies as far as we can see, no matter the size of our telescopes. Galaxies are essentially eternal structures... only the stars burnout and are reborn.

>>15460818
>Wonder if we could ever make it to the next level higher. Like if we build a massive spaceship theoretically bigger than anything in the universe, would they finnaly notice us as a small flying bug, or maybe as a virus, spreading and infecting the universe which could be a single atom in someons body.

I think about this all the time. I suspect that suitably complex civilizations colonize inward rather than outward. They get SMALLER, not so much bigger. I also suspect that our "over-world" is already here observing, if not interacting with us, in someway. Perhaps they even seeded our species brilliance, I don't know. What I am relatively certain of is that the complexity of this universe is beyond our comprehension... that there are "beings" in this universe that are to us what we are to ants. An ant is physically incapable of understanding humanity, so too would these beings be to us.

>>15460818
>Wonder if we could ever make it to the next level higher. Like if we build a massive spaceship theoretically bigger than anything in the universe, would they finnaly notice us as a small flying bug, or maybe as a virus, spreading and infecting the universe which could be a single atom in someons body.

Also, yes... I think this probably happens. If it's true that the universe is infinite & eternal (& I'm convinced it is) then every human body contains more galaxies that exist in our observable universe. At some time virtually every living body would contain a civilization that becomes aware that it is inside of a veing at greater scale... what then? Try and hijack that beings mind? Spread as some kind of disease in that body? My friends and I talk about this all the time, lol.

This is one of MANY reasons why our species needs to stop acting like sheep and wake the fuck up.

We need to seriously explore the infinite fractal universe.

We pump billions into failed experiments after failed experiments.

We need to spend at least a little, literally any amount at all (since we currently spend 0) exploring the concept of an infinite fractal universe.

>>15453763
An infinite and eternal fractal universe is compatible with the Big Bang, if the latter is an inflection point in the former.

>>15462048
>An infinite and eternal fractal universe is compatible with the Big Bang, if the latter is an inflection point in the former.

The might be, but if the universe is truly infinitely big and small then it makes sense that light loses energy (red shifts) into that depth and CMB is just the "bounce back". Hanging to old ideas like "a moment of creation" must be some kind of logical fallacy - appealing to cultural tradition? Idk.

>>15462893
>must be some kind of logical fallacy - appealing to cultural tradition?
It's not cultural tradition, it's a result of our perspective. Our reality began in the big bang in the same way that your life began with your conception.

>>15462893
>Hanging to old ideas like "a moment of creation" must be some kind of logical fallacy - appealing to cultural tradition? Idk.
It's basic formal logic actually.

>>15453577
>Big bang was a reaction
It's a statement. The statement is obey and believe, submit to authorities blindly, "Trust" science- a total unscientific term- do not queistion authority.
Burned Giordano, crucified Jesus, slayed Ignaz Semmelweis in the madhouse means all the same. Our pension is way more worth than 100 000 lives we never cared about and see what with people happens in real outside our pretended humanism .
The BBT is the topmost idiotic, but even mostly harmless of all this.

>>15453577
The big bang makes no claims to the origin of the universe, it just takes what we can observe and demonstrates a model for what will happen next since the universe is on a deterministic path based on math so we can also work backwards to realize that the universe was much smaller to begin with.

Anyone saying that the big bang theory is "The theory that nothing just poofed into existence" is missing the point entirely. The big bang theory is nothing more than "Here's what happened literally immediately after whatever the hell happened"

What's faker than this is insisting that the universe is like, 7,000 years old just because that's the oldest date that your religion goes back to.

>>15462904
>Our reality began in the big bang in the same way that your life began with your conception.

Cool. Then say that publicly and stop harrassing and bad mouthing anyone who tries to forge even deeper into understanding.

>>15462997
>stop harrassing and bad mouthing anyone who tries to forge even deeper into understanding.
Who is doing that?

>>15462931
>It's a statement. The statement is obey and believe, submit to authorities blindly, "Trust" science- a total unscientific term- do not queistion authority.
>Burned Giordano, crucified Jesus, slayed Ignaz Semmelweis in the madhouse means all the same. Our pension is way more worth than 100 000 lives we never cared about and see what with people happens in real outside our pretended humanism .
>The BBT is the topmost idiotic, but even mostly harmless of all this.

Good to see others waking up. My goal is the survival of the entire human species in happiness, health, understanding & success immortal. What's yours?

>>15462997
>>15463004
I'm definitely not doing that. I'm not even in physics.

>>15463004
>Who is doing that?

I know at least one personally. College professor who bad mouthed me online for being a free thinker, someone one social media ran with it... calling me the most deragorary version of "free thinker" she could think of, and got death threats sent to my friends and family because of it. Literally all I did was speak against the scientific "orthodoxy" related to the physics like I am doing here... but I was even milder then... something about that lit a fire in me.

>>15463021
Let me guess, someone diagnosed you with schizophrenia?

>>15463024
>Let me guess, someone diagnosed you with schizophrenia?

Lol. No. Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll notice how "the sciences" treat those with differing opinions for yourself.

>>15463024

I wish I was making it all up. I kept receipts of course. Even filed a police report. Internet is the wild west. Cancel mobs harrass people over bullshit everyday

>>15463024

This is how "Professor Dave" speaks to random posters online who question the "big bang". Imagine what people like him do when anyone starts getting real attention for question their "crisis in cosmology". I won't go into specifics here, but these people are like rabid animals.

>>15463024

What people like "Professor Dave" won't tell you is that they behave this way because of their religion - its heresy to question a moment of creation. We're you the one who mentioned Giordano Bruno? Did you know that he still has not received a pardon and his Inquisitor was Sainted in 1930? It is STILL heresy to speak like Bruno did about an infinite and eternal universe - no matter the evidence.

>>15463044
>We're you the one who mentioned Giordano Bruno? Did you know that he still has not received a pardon and his Inquisitor was Sainted in 1930? It is STILL heresy to speak like Bruno did about an infinite and eternal universe - no matter the evidence.

Talk about this publicly and you too can have a rabid mob or religious fundamentalists threatening to kll you.

>>15463007
>Good to see others waking up. My goal is the survival of the entire human species in happiness, health, understanding & success immortal. What's yours?
Nice goal, same here as always was. But how?

>>15463039
>>15463044
>>15463046
"Professor Dave" is an atheist.

>>15463021
>Literally all I did was speak against the scientific "orthodoxy" related to the physics like I am doing here... but I was even milder then... something about that lit a fire in me.

I did not even know it was literally heresy to speak publicly about at the time. Had to learn that the hard way. I've doubled down since. Fuck the darkness that plagues the mind of humanity. Long live the Enlightenment.

>>15463049
>"Professor Dave" is an atheist.

They all say that. Most Jews are atheist too, but they also have their heresies.

The people who control the purse, however, are not atheist. Go Google the religions of the most powerful people in the US: president, FED chairs, grant funders, court judges etc...

We are STILL in the Dark Ages, Anon.

>>15463047
>Nice goal, same here as always was. But how?

It seems to be happening. Just keep that fire in you alive. These Dark Age maniacs are getting so rabid because they know the tide is turning.

>>15463039
you can tell he is experiencing emotional distress because of his use of profanity

>>15463372
>you can tell he is experiencing emotional distress because of his use of profanity

Yep. And it's not just that one comment. "Professor Dave" has hundreds of comments like that on that one video alone. Obviously mental illness.

>>15463379
soience faggots are pathetic losers, their failure to measure up to their age group peers drives them insane with jealousy and envy

>>15462972
whats faker than placing your faith and trust in scientists who tell lie after lie, always for the benefit of their political masters, who dish out the research gibes?

>>15462972
>insisting that the universe is like, 7,000 years old just because that's the oldest date that your religion goes back to.
That's a believe, made for believers. Opposed to the blatant lies scientist vomits into the public.

>demonstrates a model
It's a hallucination, There is no model and there is not a spark of science in it. Refuted endelss times, obvious BS but apologetes will ignore that as always.

Geocentrism is 100% valid.

You Heliocentrits are too fucking stupid to see Galactic or Universal centrism is just as valid too.

>>15453577

it feels like we are living inside a blackhole and big bang is the gateway to another space.

>>15465795
>Heaven's Gate 2.0
"We're gunna wake up."

>>15465795
honestly, that's what i think as well. the switching of time and space inside black holes and the fact that big bang begins with "singularity" while black hole ends with it makes a whole lot of sense intuitively.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZ3R81iyE0

>>15466214
>Gets compressed to a sub-atomic width and farted out as rays at the poles.

>>15463372
>you can tell he is experiencing emotional distress because of his use of profanity

>>15465666
>NOOOOOOOOOO
>THERE IS ONLY ONE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE AND IT HAS TO BE THE SUN BECAUSE THATS WHAT I LEARNED FROM BLACK SOIENCE MAN
but also
>oh yeah relativity and reference frame, I totally believe in all that, black soience man says its real so it must be true

>>15458298

chance of a single protein forming is 10^174

you have to be a dogmatic retard to believe in abiogenesis or accidental life.

>>15467162
the ability to accept cognitive dissonance like that is a consequence of not being familiar with the underlying scientific concepts.

>>15467673
This, it is impossible to believe in both helicentrism and relativity once you learn how to do a simple coordinate system transformation. If you only know science from watching the Bill Nye show on TV then you can believe in both without realizing the how the two ideas conflict

>>15469185
>relativity

Is largely false. What Einstein essentially did get right is that gravity has a speed (c); light is the speed of causality; energy = matter.

The rest? Bunk. Including the big bang, warped spacetime, time and space being combined, and time dilation in real terms.

Clocks moving away do tick slower but only because their image is stretched from our reference - basic doppled of light.

>>15469332
>and time dilation in real terms.
Anon, I dont know about the others, but time dilation has been tested and proven

>>15469185
>If you only know science from watching the Bill Nye show on TV then you can believe in both without realizing the how the two ideas conflict

The big bang is the wildest contradiction of all. It's basically a masterclass in Orwellian doublethink.

"The universe came from a singularity the size of an atom! But the big bang also happened everywhere!"

Big bang is nonsense on its face.

The universe essentially has an aether. That aether causes red shift. Cmb is the static of that aether. Understand that and all cosmology effortlessly falls into place.

>>15469338
>Anon, I dont know about the others, but time dilation has been tested and proven

You are referring to tests that fall well within margin of error. People WANT time dilation to be true so they see results in data that have more rational and reasonable explanations.

For example, time dilation was recently "proven" because a broken satellite had a clock discrepancy. Not a single person in mainstream science asked how reliably data can be gathered from a BROKEN satellite. Not one asked, "maybe the satellite failed BECAUSE it's clock was off?"

Once you understand that big bang is abrahamic religion, funded by Abrahites (jews, Catholics, Christians mussies) you began to see the scam for what it is. NOT SCIENCE.

>>15469338

Here you can see a Christian preacher, in his own words, explaining exactly why big bang is so important to the Christian faith. It's a Christian creationist theory, Anon. Notice how angry the preacher is with any insinuation that big bang might be false. This is only one example. The entire theory was invented by a priest to "turn science away from atheism" and the theory is funded by Abrahites to this day.

https://youtu.be/NMhC3Jl-UTs

>>15469346

Also, the preacher is lying (as is usual for them). Steady State theory came BEFORE big bang theory. It was big bang which was invented to combat it. Not the inherent way around.

>>15469342
>For example, time dilation was recently "proven" because a broken satellite had a clock discrepancy. Not a single person in mainstream science asked how reliably data can be gathered from a BROKEN satellite. Not one asked, "maybe the satellite failed BECAUSE it's clock was off?"

Here is the broken satellite I am referring to.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3334860/How-botched-satellite-launch-help-prove-Einstein-s-theory-relativity-GPS-sensors-knocked-strange-orbit-used-study-gravity-levels.html

ALL of modern cosmology is like this. THE ENTIRE THING IS A GIANT FUDGE. From their colliders, to dark energy, time dilation, "the crisis in cosmology". ALL OF IT.

Modern cosmology is what is fed to the slave class, to keep them occupied with harmless busy work, while the "elites" continue to refine the more rational Newtonian and aether models.

>>15469355
>Modern cosmology is what is fed to the slave class, to keep them occupied with harmless busy work, while the "elites" continue to refine the more rational Newtonian and aether models.

Afterall, one can never challenge telecom companies or build n*kes, etc... if their entire perception of reality is false.

Those who are nepotistically chosen to lead such projects are privileged to learn the truth.

Do you ever wonder why Asia is crushing us in engineering? It's because they have no such lies in their curriculum. It is physically impossible to be useful by following western science... one must cast it aside to learn the truth:

Our universe is an infinite, eternal, unified, fluidlike, fractal-like mathematical construct - without "God" (in the western sense) and completely and totally governed by deductible logic and math.

>>15469360
>Do you ever wonder why Asia is crushing us in engineering? It's because they have no such lies in their curriculum. It is physically impossible to be useful by following western science... one must cast it aside to learn the truth:

It is commonly thought that China has a firewall to prevent them from accessing enlightened western ideas... but this is not the case. It's to protect them from being infected with our dark ages bullsht - and in particular the cancerous mind viruses of our Abrahamic religions which corrupt everything they touch - and the sciences in particular.

>>15469348
einstein invented GR as a steady state theory before they switched to the Big Bang narrative.

>>15453577
The claim being made here appears to be a critique of the Big Bang theory, suggesting that it was propagated in response to the steady-state theory and that its supporting evidence is flawed. This is not an accurate representation of the scientific consensus or the history of these theories.

The Big Bang theory originated not as a reaction to steady-state theory, but from independent observations and theoretical developments. The steady-state theory, which posited that the universe was eternally unchanging on a large scale, was a viable alternative until the 1960s when the discovery of the cosmic microwave background (CMB) radiation provided strong evidence for the Big Bang theory.

The Michaelson-Morley experiment, which is mentioned, is not directly relevant to Big Bang theory. This experiment was conducted in the late 19th century to detect the presence of a hypothetical "aether" through which light was thought to propagate. The failure to detect this aether was instrumental in the development of Einstein's theory of special relativity, but this is separate from the discussion of cosmological models.

The claim that redshift is a "natural function of all waves" is misleading. While it's true that any wave can experience a Doppler shift in frequency (redshift for light) due to relative motion between the source and observer, in the context of cosmology, redshift is observed in the light from distant galaxies and is interpreted as evidence for the expansion of the universe, one of the key aspects of the Big Bang theory.

The assertion that the CMB is the same temperature at all points in time is not correct. The CMB is the remnant radiation from the Big Bang, and it has cooled over time as the universe has expanded. Its discovery and the precise measurements of its temperature fluctuations are some of the strongest pieces of evidence for the Big Bang theory.

>>15470729

Thanks chatGPT. Does your human operator have any thoughts of his own.

You know chatgpt will also straight up lie to you about cell phone radiation (it DOES increase risk of cancer much to our overlords dismay) and the bush-binladin connection too (the families absolutely were business partners easily provable from even the fucking Wallstreet journal).

You probably think cigarettes are healthy too, you dumbfck

>>15463054

>>15471840

Yes, your big bang theory is religious bullshit. You follow culture, not facts. Good for you.

No hate toward religion, it's simply factually wrong on the matter of our universe's origin. The big bang did not happen.

I'm not here to compromise with religion. This is fucking science.

I'll be nice to religious people, etc...

But here? This is a science forum bucko.

>>15453577
>Michaelson Morley wouldn't have even detected the existance of air if it had been calibrated for it.
How? The whole point is that earth would be travelling so fast across ether, that turning 90 degrees would make a difference. Besides, michelson was one of the best exsperimentalists ever, this result made him leave the field

>>15471886
atheists can't do science since they have no underlying formal belief in truth. the catholic church was able to change it's dogma to fit galileo's observations because it needed to have it's dogma match observed reality, if the same organization had been run on an atheistic basis they would have just invented a lie to explain away the observations galileo made.

>>15472853
This hits the nail on the head. If you don't believe in truth you can't do science.

>>15472098
>How? The whole point is that earth would be travelling so fast across ether, that turning 90 degrees would make a difference. Besides, michelson was one of the best exsperimentalists ever, this result made him leave the field

Michelson morely experiment was designed to detect the change in light as it was distorted by the fixed aether.

You cannot even detect a change in sound frequency on a still day using their setup.

The aether moves WITH the Earth. Just like air does.

Are you a midwit? Have you ever even thought about this? Or do you just regurgitate what others tell you on faith alone?

>>15472853
>>15472881

You people are utterly brainwashed lol. I don't really care. Just pointing it out.

>>15471886
>The big bang did not happen.
singularities are flaws in theory, not reflections of reality. there are no IRL singularities, the big bang isn't a possibility, it exists as a theory in imaginary form due to flaws in the application of math by physicists

>>15473311
>The aether moves WITH the Earth.
Aether drag experiments were also negative. MM wasn't the only experiment people ever tried.

>>15473311
Why would ether move with the earth? What's so special about us? How would that even work specifically? I bet there would be some light fuckery with the sun if that were the case, or are you saying that ether moves exactly with the trajectory of sun-earth? It would also have to move with earth's rotation, so that MM experiment behaves like you explained. That would be even crazier. Again occam's razor prevails, there is no ether, at least not as a medium for light that is similar to air as a medium to sound. Sure, you can call spacetime ether, but it doesn't behave like other mediums, and light doesn't share many similarities with sound

>>15473311
MM experiment was designed to detect a change in lightspeed across 2 perpendicular trajectories, after all the bouncing around it had an interferometer, if light did change speed, the interference pattern between two beams would change, it didn't. The idea was that earth is traveling through ether at some angle, and if you rotated the experiment 90 degrees you would see a difference. You don't understand shit

>>15453577
>I am not here to debate. I am better than you
based beyond comprehension

>>15473784
The aether drag experiments performed in open air were positive.

>>15473935
>and light doesn't share many similarities with sound
What qualities do they not share?

>>15473941
>The idea was that earth is traveling through ether at some angle, and if you rotated the experiment 90 degrees you would see a difference.
Why would you expect to see a difference in a hermetically sealed room? The aether inside it can't move due to drag because it's contained.

>>15474678
Brah the only thing they have in commom is that they are both waves, not even the same type of wave

>>15474680
Because the only property that ether has is that it carries light, otherwise lasers would bend as soon as a wind blew.

>>15474921
>>15474927
Most intelligent physics undergrad.

>>15474934
Thanks for the compliment

>>15473778
>singularities are flaws in theory

One of the biggest errors in mainstream science is the inability to believe that true infinity is real. It's pure arrogance. These humans think that because they cannot imagine infinity that the universe is incapable of creating it

>>15473784
>Aether drag experiments were also negative

Are you a midwit?

They performed the aether drag experiment on a mountaintop. EVEN AIR DRAGS WITH THE EARTH ON A MOUNTAIN. YOU CANNOT "GET ABOVE" THE AETHER DRAG.

>>15474680
>Why would you expect to see a difference in a hermetically sealed room? The aether inside it can't move due to drag because it's contained.

You are correct in your inclination that aether is real. It is. However, ALL is "aether". The aether is all that exists. Even atoms are just swirls in it. In the same way that em waves can travel through sealed rooms, so too can the aether.

>>15473941
>MM experiment was designed to detect a change in lightspeed across 2 perpendicular trajectories, after all the bouncing around it had an interferometer, if light did change speed, the interference pattern between two beams would change, it didn't. The idea was that earth is traveling through ether at some angle, and if you rotated the experiment 90 degrees you would see a difference. You don't understand shit

This conversation is beyond you. I know everything you shared. Aether swirls with the Earth, similar to air. Aether is not fixed relative to earth.

>>15473935
>Why would ether move with the earth? What's so special about us? How would that even work specifically? I bet there would be some light fuckery with the sun if that were the case, or are you saying that ether moves exactly with the trajectory of sun-earth? It would also have to move with earth's rotation, so that MM experiment behaves like you explained. That would be even crazier. Again occam's razor prevails, there is no ether, at least not as a medium for light that is similar to air as a medium to sound. Sure, you can call spacetime ether, but it doesn't behave like other mediums, and light doesn't share many similarities with sound

Aether swirls with the earth is a similar way that spinning a ball enough in water, the water will eventually start swirling with the ball. Stop being a midwit.

>>15473935
>and light doesn't share many similarities with sound

Light is the speed of causality, and the aether is all that exists. "Light" that we observe is vibration in that unified "aether" substance. Understand this & understanding of our universe becomes very simple. You are correct it is not *exactly* like air. Air and water are simply analogies.

>>15474967
>Aether swirls with the earth is a similar way that spinning a ball enough in water, the water will eventually start swirling with the ball
Source: my ass

>>15473941
>if light did change speed, the interference pattern between two beams would change, it didn't
because wavelength isn't interlinked

>>15453577

>>15474953
>They performed the aether drag experiment on a mountaintop.
There isn't just one experiment. There are several. One is the aberration of starlight. Stars would be displaced if there was aether drag. The star light is certainly combing from above the drag.

>>15476341
>Stars would be displaced if there was aether drag

They are, Anon. We can observe countless optical effects as light travels through space as if it is traveling through countless prisms and lenses to reach us. "Scientists" will call this the effect of dark matter or warped space time, etc... but they complicate things with too many definitions. What we are simply observing is that light is traveling through a universal substance - an aether.

>>15476763
>dark matter or warped space time,
Nothing to do with stellar aberation. That is the angular displacement of stars as the Sun orbits the Earth.

>>15476776
>Nothing to do with stellar aberation. That is the angular displacement of stars as the Sun orbits the Earth.

What makes you so sure you know the stars' *real* location as opposed to their observed location?

>>15472881
The scientific method was developed by Christians and for Christians. If you are not a Christian, you cannot be a scientist. Francis Bacon hated atheism and considered it ignorant and low IQ
>a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion

>>15476786
If there was aberation it would repeat over the Suns orbit. Therw is no aberation because there is no aether drag.

>>15477313
>The scientific method was developed by Christians and for Christians.

Ah yes. Aristotle. Super Christian he was.

Or are you referring to Galileo who was put under house arrest by the Church for studying science?

The world sees the path you people are on. Germany tried it too once. Funny fact about that. Einstein (Jewish) fled Germany and then contributed to America's development of the Atom Bomb - directed by a Jewish man, Oppenheimer.

I wonder what technology those you harrass will help China develop against you?

>>15477313
>>15477490
>I wonder what technology those you harrass will help China develop against you?

I can think of some ideas. ChatGPTs developer is Jewish afterall. Pretty powerful tech! We'll all be watching with much interest.

>>15477342

stellar aberration is a relativistic effect and is unrelated to the existence or non-existence of the aether. I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make.

>>15477490
>Or are you referring to Galileo who was put under house arrest by the Church for studying science?
there you go again with your sºyboy tall tales about the history of galileo. the vatican has the trial documents available for you to read, but you insist on maintaining your ignorance of the facts and shilling the atheist propaganda version of the story. galileo was tried and rightfully convicted for insubordinate behavior. galileo refused to give his superiors any opportunity to review the facts of his discoveries before he started publicly shitting on church dogma. the vatican eventually adopted heliocentrism once they had been given enough time to do so, galileo was not the pope, it was not his right to alter church teachings, so he was rightfully convicted. copernicus was less of a flaming faggot about it, he publishing his ideas contradicting church dogma posthumously as a means of avoiding trial, galileo was too childishly impatient and shortsighted to exercise that level of self control

>>15477500
If you accept relativity then there is no aether, nothing to drag.
If there really was an aether with drag then you expect aberation which does not match the relativistic expectation. Specifically there should be no aberation, but there is.
If you think it's unrelated then you really haven't done your research.

>>15477519
>galileo refused to give his superiors any opportunity to review the facts of his discoveries before he started publicly shitting on church dogma

You don't belong on Sci but by the grace of Kek

>>15477519
>the vatican eventually adopted heliocentrism once they had been given enough time to do so

*cough* hundreds of years, and only after competitors like the protestants starting using it

>>15477519
>galileo was not the pope, it was not his right to alter church teachings

You truly do not understand what science is kek

>>15477519
>copernicus was less of a flaming faggot about it, he publishing his ideas contradicting church dogma posthumously as a means of avoiding trial, galileo was too childishly impatient and shortsighted to exercise that level of self control

People actually think as you do. Here you are, linking boots even when anonymous. Jesus christ

>>15477533
>Specifically there should be no aberation

How does this reason?

>>15477797
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberration_(astronomy)
Read the section on the Luminiferous aether and drag.

>>15459367
dark matter isn't real my sweet child

>>15478008
cosmology is all fake

>>15477796
>linking boots
you're the one who can't let go of the globohomo propaganda version of the galileo tale even though the trial documents are available which completely disprove the globohomo atheist soience propaganda version of that story

>>15477793
>t. too low iq to understand why organizational hierarchy exists or even what it is
everyone is equal, just like it says in the soience textbooks

>>15467162
good gif

>>15480098
>everyone is equal, just like it says in the soience textbooks

Decentralized efficiency is better. That decentralization can create natural hierarchy but it must be real - not forced. And not based on false premise.

>>15478137
cosmology isn't science, its religion, its all based on faith, it has no repeatable experiments, it has no disprovable theories

>>15453577
So pol trolls are on every board?
That sucks