/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15446567
I don't understand what you're talking about

We need a redpill on the p value

>>15446567
>humans totally live to be 1000 years old! trust me bro! my mam is pushing 800!
>the SCIENCE doesn't want you to know this secret!
>buy my book to learn how!
>like & subscribe & listen to my weekly podcast for more!
this is how you sound

>>15447481
If your mom lived to 800, scientists would ignore her and just consider he to be an outlier, instead of admitting their science is bullshit, that’s the point

>>15447493
No, they'd have her in a basement laboratory surrounded by the military doing constant tests on her trying to figure out how she's still alive.

>>15447493
You're retarded for thinking a human could be 800 in the first place. You're the person to believe healing crystals and buy snake oil.

>>15447509
Yet it happens all the time in pretty much every study, but because it isn’t as extreme as that example we dismiss them

>>15447549
The oldest person ever recorded was 122 years old, and they do studies on centenarians all the fucking time.

>>15447647
jean clement was not 122, she was using her mothers documents to become famous late in life be pretending to be unusually old. she was 99 when she died, not bad, but nowhere near 122

>>15447526
Low IQ people are unable to grasp hypotheticals. It was an "if" statement. Sad!

>>15446567
>anecdotal (real) evidence
Anecdotal evidence is only good as the person.
As you are a shit person, your anecdotal evidence is irrelevant.

>>15446946
me neither, but OP pic was good so I opened the thread anyway

>>15446567
I don't think any true scientist would consider themselves arrogant. They need to be prepared to throw out all of their work when a better model comes along.

That takes a degree of humillity.

>>15448086
Most arrogant people will not consider themselves arrogant. In reality one just needs to look at someone like Dawkins, Huberman, Attia, Krauss, Dennett (not a scientist but academic?) and they all speak with an authoritative voice, lecturing us about the truth or something. There is really no hint of humility.

>>15448086
>They need to be prepared to throw out all of their work when a better model comes along.
they never do, they just kill the career of anyone who comes up with better ideas by abuse the peer review system to silence dissent
>That takes a degree of humillity.
they don't have that, that why they need to abuse the peer review system to maintain the status quo at all costs

>>15446567
In science you are not supposed to ignore the outliers. It is something you note, and try to find out why it is happening.

>>15446567
When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.

>>15448070
Yeah, I still don't know what this thread is supposed to be about either, but OP pic is quality so I presume the thread is good too

>>15447464
Aren't their strict guidelines for what p values are needed to be certain that the hypothesis is confirmed? For medical science it needs to be lower than for other sciences so I've learned.

>>15446567
Be a little more skeptical of the underdog as well please. For example: carnivore doctors complain that the science is rigged, but don't take the initiative to design and execute a study themselves. Any comment and suggestion to do so gets ignored. Isn't that dishonest as well?

>>15446567
good pic, but wtf are you talking about?

brainlet OP
Hear me out

Our understanding of p values is often bullshit and mathematical cope, and at the end of the day, our conclusions are really based on our assumptions about the population, trust in our sampling methods, our ideology that life can be reduced to simple machinery, biomechanical devices.

Here’s an example of the point I’m trying to convey, correct my brainlet interpretation if you have a bigger brainlet: vax is safe for most people, but for some outliers, it can be fatal. Science(tm) will and did brush off people’s anecdotal evidence, when for these exact same people, the average safety is of no importance since they themselves suffered consequences from it. It’s like the inferential data is more important than the anecdote, when in reality, to that single person, the anecdote/personal experience is what is actually true, and the average data is useless to them. Blabla public policy, but the idea is that medicine/biology is usually so simplistic and mechanistic that it reduces the truth to an interpretation of a p (probability) value, generated from who knows what data sample.

>>15446567
Yes.

>>15450773
>vax is safe for most people, but for some outliers, it can be fatal.
They argue that outliers are more at risk dying from covid than from the vax. Any study that suggests that vaxing has an unfavorable risk/benefit ratio is criticized into oblivion.

>>15451332

>>15451332
>more at risk dying from covid
never existed, it was a hoax. just like swine flu in 2009

>>15451332
> Any study
stop asking for stoodies. the only study you can trust is your own performed by yourself, not even the one you pay for. you don't need any study to avoid jabs with unknown content. the only jabs you can trust are ones you make (like drugs).

>>15446567
Yes.

>>15452841
no. scientists are only instruments of government.

>>15448823
two more weeks until the undeniable and infallible evidence of a flat earth is released!!!

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>>15447647
cuz someone 800 years old would totally tell scientists they were 800 years old. ask the native americans how telling white people their secrets went