/sci/ - Science & Math

>countries with older mothers have actually a bit less autism but also an exponential increase.

Yeah age may afect but doen't explain the exponential inceease

>microplastics
>Air polution
>Weed during teen ages
>Tatto ink
>Paracetamol abuse

We don't really know

>>15420831
People don't like to talk about it because of the conclusions people draw from which potential changes in healthcare mandates may have caused the rise. It's a political third rail.

>>15420842
https://youtu.be/WhKfIBEmdvA

This could happens to anyone and the states are ignoring the issue because of the fear natality drop even faster

People like to say those "quirky, weird" kids you had in your class growing up were actually on the spectrum and just not diagnosed. The difference is that they were actual functional human beings. They had friends, they completed their schooling and got jobs.
The amount of straight up dysfunctional, nearly non-verbal kids these days is outstanding. In my day we had a handful of kids kept in a separate classroom ("special ed") and even they were just called slow or retarded as a slur because they couldn't keep pace with the rest of their peers.

>>15420844
They're ignoring the issue because if it was caused by one of their policies they can be sued.

>>15420847
I feel like a huge part of it is children are able to totally immerse themselves in zero social interaction fantasy via electronic devices. This retards their development in ways that never occurred in the past.

If you expand the diagnostic criteria for a condition you'll find more of it? Wow. I didn't know that.

>>15420868
Came here to post this. There is no parent interacting constantly with the kids anymore. You can't just cram kids into childcare centres where staff cannot provide one on one social interaction for 14+ hours of the day. They get crammed into sterile environments where they get treated like babies. When their parents are home they are so zombified from their meaningless wageslave existence that all they want to do is find escape in the television, not go through several hours of intensive questioning by a curious young mind. I also suspect that daycare centres are hives of child abuse.

>>15420901
>Kid watch some screen
>Becomes unable to talk forever.

Don't be in denial.

>>15421359
Not him but what a piss poor attempt to straw man his point.

>>15420868
A non verbal autist doesn't exist because mommy gave him a tablet....

>>15420831
yeah but the post that said "studies show vaccines don't cause autism" said vaccines don't cause autism.

>>15420831
My school district always accused me of being autistic but they never provided proof. Never had a doctor diagnose me or anything. I was put in special education classes from 2nd grade all the way to senir year of high school. Didn't find out my school claimed I was autistic until middle school when I found a school document about me labeling me autistic. Nobody had the guts to tell me, not only that but they never explained how I was autistic. They just said I was without any proof. Looking back at it, I probably could have sued them but I don't know. I am just really pissed off they would say that about me.

>>15420831
>[Open] [Open]
OP is a faggot

>>15421359
It absolutely happens, you want your child to be an adult retard go ahead dog, you can ruin their ability to exist, even if they seem gifted. You need to socialize. I had the zero interaction fantasy myself kind of with random outburts of odd behavior in school. It's bad and it's only aimed towards favorite children.

>>15422363
You seem to enjoy talking about yourself on social media.

>>15422700
I see no indication of that.

>>15422715
Your excessive use of personal pronouns and personal anecdotes indicates a high degree of narcissism.

>>15422751
I didn't write it.

>>15420885

>>15420831
Is just going on as planned. Western civilization became an existential threat to the old ones so they infiltrated the US government and all its institutions to destroy it with postmodernist nonsense, poison the population with drugs and fake vaccines, and finally starve them to death sabotaging farming worldwide.
There is no torture cruel enough to punish the traitors who sided with demons.

>>15422751
I'm neither the anon you're reply to nor the anon who wrote the post, but this is simple projection. It's far more narcissistic to believe that you are somehow qualified to accurately evaluate the mental state of others on the basis of a few lines of text, than it is to anonymously disclose facts about yourself.
>inb4 no u /you're doing the same thing
No, my conclusion is premised upon the assumption that you're the same anon who's been doing this same tone-policing no-fun-allowed crap for a while now. I can admit that my assumptions may be wrong, in large part because I'm not a narcissist.

>>15420840
>Autists are smoking weed and getting tattoos in their teen years
>Therefore they're autistic as a child
Stoopid

There's a theory out there that autism is caused by cold mothers who don't show enough affection to infants. The infant then never learns the importance of affection and how crucial it is for social skills. As for why the autists have sensitivity to sensations I don't know. Probably because they learn as infants the importance of independence (lack of affection) and amplify their preferences into retardation. For instance nobody likes a loud siren near them but it takes an autistic retard with no social skills to air this disgust for everyone to hear like a literal child. It's simply lack of emotional maturity.

>>15423931
>fake vaccines
It implies there's real vaccines.
Do you believe the Earth is a globe, too ?

>>15424436
Get lost, nobody needs glowies.

>>15424425
No not everybody dislikes sirens. Self reporting lol.

>>15424425
Hypersensitivity to stimuli is also often accompanied by a lack of sensitivity to other stimuli. A childish reaction can probably be blamed on poor social skills and social awareness but the actual sensitivity to it is probably more biologically rooted.

>>15424425
Then why 40% of autist are non-verbal?

Most of mental illnesses are either inherited genetic or passed on through trauma.
People with fucked up brains tend to want to have more children for some reason. I've never heard anyone with ADHD say "I won't have sex because I risk passing on my ADHD by having a child." Instead, they go "Ugabuga, SEX FEELS GOOD! I would love to have a kid, wouldn't that be fun?!"

>>15425448
Because when they say "nonverbal" what they actually mean is "vocabulary of under 40 words AND/OR unable to communicate with words alone." I have never met an Italian-American who isn't nonverbal by that standard.

>>15420831
Do you have any studies/evidence other than purely anecdotal that the increase in autism numbers is actually related to an increase in the number of people that would be considered mentally handicapped/disabled?

My understanding was that the massive increase (particularly post 2010) was due to the combining of all autism sub-types along with heavily relaxed diagnostic criteria, resulting in 'quirky', 'weird' or 'different' but otherwise entirely functional people being classified as autistic despite no significant symptoms other than perhaps social difficulties/isolation, which has a number of alternative explanations that are more likely IMO than a sudden increase in a particular mental/biological condition.

>>15425535
This would not result in a steady increase year-over-year, but rather a big jump then a plateau.

>>15420831
>the increasing numbers
The cause is not a secret, just that there is so much money involved that the government, pharma corps and TV "news" media all work to supress the data and get $ as a result.

I've never met a kid from my local Mennonite type group that was mentally ill.
So it is something environmental that can be avoided.
They are anti doctors in general, and I really think it has something to do with OTC drugs during pregnancy.

>>15420840
Bruh.. it could be that some of the stated is causing mothers to give birth to autistic children. There are many things that can affect a baby pre-birth. We already know most that are caused by mother's negligence. Fetal alcohol syndrome, "crack babies", etc. It's not exactly Alex Jones tier theory

>>15425569
What if it's microplastics?
That would mean human race is fucked

>>15425568
You're a fucking retard.
It is obviously all the smartphone/vidya/electronic experiences """normal""" children get instead of real human interaction. It completely deprives them of normal human bonding experiences.

>>15423931
>the length people will go to to avoid responsibility for a problem

>>15423931
>Is just going on as planned. Western civilization became an existential threat to the old ones so they infiltrated the US government and all its institutions to destroy it with postmodernist nonsense, poison the population with drugs and fake vaccines, and finally starve them to death sabotaging farming worldwide.
>There is no torture cruel enough to punish the traitors who sided with demons.
There is no way to disagree with this post.

>>15420831
Sonograms fry the brains and vaccines fry the guts and immune systems.

>>15420831
Chemical pollution. It's only getting worse.

>>15424408
Their mothers, dingus.

>>15425555
Yes. The reason is unfit babies are not weeded out anymore.
You want to take over that responsibility?

>>15425555
Quads of truth.

>>15420842
The consequences is that disabled people should be euthanized as they would be better off themselves and to others for not existing.

>>15424408
We are talking about mothers/fathers fucking their sperm/eggs quality.

>>15425555
>
THIS
pharmaceuticals and vaccines.

This is my biggest fear.

>>15420831
Something like 20% of Gen Z identify as LGBTQ and many are sterelizing themselves in the name of ideology. Some as children, with or without their parents knowing.

>>15420840
>weed during teens
Quick Google search shows first recorded use of weed was 2800 BC, and wasn't controlled until recently. People have been smoking weed for literally thousands of years.

Meth was an OTC medication in the 50s and that didn't change for 20 years. Boomers are the result of methheads but autism is because of weed? Get the fuck out of here LOL

>>15428796
In no time in history weed consumption in teen ages have been this high arround the world.

I have autistic family and they were born like that for sure. They never learned to talk. Not at 3 years old, not at 4 not ever. I dont think one session of baby einstein caused it.
They are like cats, very affectionate.

>high carb diets
>lack of meat and saturated fat
>seed oils unironically
>grain
>internet use by the offspring
>vaccines

>>15429289
Only antisemites would be against all of that.

>>15429263
There's no way for you to know how much weed teenagers were smoking three thousand years ago.

>>15420831
>Arab countries have young mothers and are the countries with more autism in the world.
This is not a good counterexample to the "mature mothers" hypothesis, because Arab countries have more cousin marriages, which is a potentially separate and much larger source of congenital mental illnesses.

>>15429966
We know from archaeological and anthropological study that psychedelics were used rarely and ceremonially in premodern times. People were not chronically addicted to them.

>>15429966
>There's no way for you to know how much weed teenagers were smoking three thousand years ago.
It was limited to just a tiny area in the middle east back then, where the plant originated.
Weed didn't become widespreadly used as a drug until the early 1900s among blacks first, then spread to whites in the 1920s boom-years, very recently in overall terms.

Before the early 1900s weed was mostly just grown for hemp production.

>>15430000
>Weed didn't become widespreadly used as a drug until the early 1900s among blacks first, then spread to whites in the 1920s boom-years, very recently in overall terms.
One small correction: it started among Mexicans, then spread to blacks. In the late 1800s and early 1900s it was considered a Mexican vice. In the 20s it moved to blacks and some whites, then most blacks, and only became widely abused by whites in the 70s.

>>15429966
Lol yes we know

Are you in denial because you smoked in your teens and maybe (we don't know for sure) your sperm have a higher probability of a disabled kid?

>>15429993
>Weed
>Psychedelic
Pick one.
>>15430000
Interesting that this are produced some of the most profound scientific and mathematical advances in ancient times. Maybe you have a point.
>>15430048
I've smoked weed most of my life. I'd be interested if you can post some studies done on the risks. Then I can compare them to the risks of modern medicines.

>>15420831
The Chinese may be onto something. They connected autism with gut flora and are treating autistic kids with fecal transplants. I know about one kid like that in my family (in Europe) whose parents made a trip to China for that very purpose and a year after the transplant the kid behaves better and even started to talk. So if the missing link is the diet... that would explain why it's worldwide.

>>15430128
>gut flora
I should have said gut biome.

>>15430128
It's been suggested that it's a metabolic syndrome, which may have something to do with why it occurs so often in overvaccinated and overmedicated children.

>>15430128
>>15430132
Considering the "covid vaccine" destroys certain parts of the immune system, and the majority of teh immune system is dependent on intestinal biome, that makes sense.

The high sugar diet sure is hard on the intestines also.

>>15420831
All women are inherently on the autistic spectrum and its about time we talk about it.

>>15420868
>>15420901
I do wonder how much schizoid personality disorder gets misdiagnosed because parents emotionally neglect their kids by ignoring them for their phones and pass parenting off to devices

>>15420831
Why would a group of people who's biggest fear is group revolts promote anything that decrease one's ability to form groups?

>>15420847
This. Kids who were weird coped with it and grew with it. Some got beaten out of it by peers and parents.
Now every shit behaviour is stapled as "autism" and further excuses the behaviour as something everyone elses' problem.

>>15420831
What's wrong with vid related? He looks like an average american. Also he didn't do nothing wrong. Just expressed his creativity. If he claim to be trans, no one would say he's autistic

>>15424408
Anon is refering to their parents, cuck

>>15420831
Is there any actual difference between the mentally retarded and severely autistic?

>>15430523
One is literally me and the other has trouble naturally reading faces.

>>15420831
People having children at older ages is part of it. People used to get married right out of school but now they wait till 40. That is so unfair that mot only is my life like this but everyone here intentionally makes it worse.

>>15430538
I HAVE to go to Europe with that fat dumb slob. I do not want to.

>>15420831
It's obesity. Arabs are the most obese people on the planet.

>>15420847
>The amount of straight up dysfunctional, nearly non-verbal kids these days is outstanding.
It really isn't desu, I have family members that work with proper dysfunctional retards and the number is actually decreasing. In fact they used to have 30, today they would only have 1 dysfunctional special ed kid if it wasn't for the 5 migrant kids.

>>15430583
Even the data of African countries say that severe non-verbal autist are increasing.

You can't deny the reality.

Also we are talking in %, if you have 100 kids and 2 severe autist back then and now 20 kids and 2 severe autist the % would have increase.

>>15430755
Yes, my point is it's not a Western problem. Probably most of the Anons going "hurr screens, hurr microplastics" (i.e. inert organic fibre) and even the "hurr bossmommy" incels are way fucking off and clueless about how Westerners in real life are actually raising their kids (which is far more traditional than people here think or indeed what was common in the 90s).

I looked up Iceland and it appears that diagnosed childhood autists actually halved in the 2000s. It is entirely possible that there is no need for alarmism at all and that this is simply a function of improved medical infrastructure in the third world and migrants in the first world. It was probably always in their population.

>>15430567
>People used to get married right out of school but now they wait till 40.
Getting married right out of school doesn't prevent having children at 40, it only prevents having your first child at 40. That is the group of people who are more likely to have "autistic" kids. And it's not because old sperm and/or old eggs cause "autism". It's because the resulting offspring are the results of multiple generations of selectively breeding for the ability to focus on a detailed task to the detriment of natural social relationships.

>>15431871
>It's because the resulting offspring are the results of multiple generations of selectively breeding for the ability to focus on a detailed task to the detriment of natural social relationships.
Interesting sociological cause.

>>15420831
Phthalates. Microplastics. PFOA's.
Mystery solved.

>>15420831
more pollution

>>15432086
It obviously doesn't explain all cases of autism, it's a broad umbrella term. But a lot of "famous historical figure retroactively identified as autistic" cases fit that profile. It fits the "mom and dad are both computer programmers" stereotype of the 90s. Fits my own family over at least four generations.

Not sure but it's fun to consider that whatever it is probably hasn't even hit its peak yet.

>>15431871
Interesting. Family friends of ours who are German expats are like this. The kids are all either 160 IQ professors who did their PhDs at MIT or actual proper dysfunctional autists who need their ass wiped three times a day (the kind that expire naturally at 12).

It was like 2:1 genius:autist, no one really understands why, but at least these days they can test.

>>15420831
They have always existed but back then they didn't diagnose it much and just pretended they were simply weird.

>>15430793
https://www.spectrumnews.org/opinion/icelandic-inquiry/#:~:text=The%20rate%20of%20diagnosis%20of,20%20June%20in%20BMJ%20Open.

The rate of diagnosis of autism in Iceland has grown more than sevenfold since researchers first measured it in 1977, and it has quadrupled since 2001.


Lol stop coping

>>15432532
>Parents in 2018 didn't know something is wrong with their kid not talking at 4yo and unable to go alone to the bath.

>>15432525
>actual proper dysfunctional autists who need their ass wiped three times a day (the kind that expire naturally at 12)
That's unlikely. I would buy "the kind that tend to be killed by members of their own tribe before the age of 12 in the absence of social pressures against that kind of thing." But needing your ass wiped three times a day is a result of being unable to cope with the demands of modern sanitation and has nothing to do with the ability to survive in a state of nature, where you can drop a log anywhere you want.

>>15420831
Because European population growth has flatlined.
If you look at the people responsible for the growth you will see it's people who are quite high on the inbreeding scale.
What's the most popular baby name in Britain? Or say.. France or Germany?

>>15433590
https://reproductive-health-journal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1742-4755-6-17

>>15420831
It's fashionable if you can believe it. There's a belief that it confers some kind of benefit so people want their kids to be diagnosed as autistic. Not to mention many self-diagnosed so-called autistic kids are just awkward basement-dwellers so they just have no social graces. Being a twat doesn't make you autistic but that's the vibe today.

>>15425568
a austic person can hide really well in those types of communities .
many assistited living programs for retards operate very similarly to mennonite and amish houses.

>>15420831
>chemicals everywhere
>motorvehicle pollution
>pesticide/herbicides and antibiotics/vaccines in food
>dysfunctional families
>living with dirty ass dogs
>old mothers
at this point its a miracle anyone is born normal

>>15425850
yet he just made a literal wef puppet his ceo at Twitter baka