/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15398042
Based ring watcher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

Not much progress yet, they have been inspecting the site and equipment thoroughly I guess

inb4 page 1 schizo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbBeoReu12E
some weird yellow crane

>there are 9 ships and 7 boosters currently being worked on
>9 SHIP AND 7 BOOSTERS
Holy shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2BQKCnPkIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M73GjbQqYM

Two falcon 9 launches coming up

Starlink Mission in 4h
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5EX1u0fA78

ViaSat-3 Americas Mission in 13h
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joqNT2amTpQ

>>15398054
>>15398052
>>15398048
>>15398046
Stop shilling your YouTube Baylor

>>15398055
>Viasat 3 Americas
>Delayed from 3rd Quarter and December 2022. Delayed from January, March 2023, April 8, April 18, April 24, and April 26.

>>15398056
jump out of an airlock fag
or better yet, a specially made contraction that spins and can rope you even in 0g

>>15398042
When will we get the updated one?

Fraser Cain, Scott Manley and Marcus House discussing OFT-1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGcdjJj-f4g

>>15397865
I wouldn't take those CZ9 roadmap dates too seriously; CASC changes their minds all the time. Probably, the real constraining factor for China is how fast they can get their 2MN ffsc mox Raptor clone working. If the engine proceeds rapidly then the CZ9 schedule might be accelerated.

That CASC recently decided to shift from kox to mox for CZ9 suggests that they made key breakthroughs with the mox engine development. They previously said 2035 for the mox CZ9, then this April they said 2033. In the previous slides a reusable upper stage wasn't included in the roadmap, in the April slides they were.

If Starship works well then CASC might decide to skip the expendable second stage on CZ9 and go directly for a Starship clone.

>>15398071
Stainless steel really is the cutting edge in material sciences

NASA: plays with helicopter drone on Mars
Elon: plays with rocket debris on Earth

>>15398067
who knows, I think it was months between this one and the previous one
pic related is 9 weeks ago (february 19th)
https://twitter.com/RingWatchers/status/1627140634459897856

I scrolled a year back on the twitter feed and didn't see a picture in the same format as >>15398042
a lot of ones where they show a 3d diagram of the production site itself (like pic related)

>>15398071
only material rockets will ever need

>>15398042
so there's another stack ready to go?

>>15398069
This guy kind of looks like an android

>>15398087
yeah in some 6 months to a year once they fix the launch site. He hasn’t even developed or tested the in-space refueling concept yet…that would take years to perfect, esp. if the launch pad needs 6 months of repairs after each launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Typ9MEhkDmI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYsGylmibac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE9Jl3sYdhw
post some relevant videos

>>15398087
almost 2, with a million more well on the way

>>15398087
I think 2 stacks, thats what people have said at least
ship 25 is not going to be used for some reason
but ship 26 + booster 9 should be pretty ready, just static fires first

>>15398092
Thundercuck alert.

>>15398092
pouring some concrete and installing the water cooled steel plate shouldn't take 6 months

>>15398102
aerospace concrete takes 2 years to cure and hundreds of millions of dollars

>>15398106
if you are oldspace then yes

>>15398054
look at all the debris at the 50 second mark
wtf

>>15398112
yeah, you could see that in other videos too but this is probably the clearest showing just how many pieces of debris there are

you also see the big slab that just goes above the sand/dust cloud (lower right hand side in pic related) at 53-56s

explain this shit to me
why won't they just go to the moon and back on starship?

>>15398124
Grift, pls andarstand.

>>15398124
well, crew rating Starship might be difficult, but they could just take up people in a dragon that then transfers people to Starship and then go to the moon with that
the reason they don't is because SLS exists as a jobs program in the end
the Artemis program itself exists as a way to use SLS pretty much

>>15398102
yeah but what about the rest of the damage such as the damaged methane tanks?

>>15398124
Why do they want to use SLS?
>>15398130
This is true
>>15398131
Yep
They are doing this because they have already sunk so much cash into the SLS program, how could they not use the SLS?

>>15398055
I'm so excited for you weebs

frankly this last launch came daringly close to a climate catastrophe which is the releasment of hundreds of tonnes of methane. Hope the FAA and other government agencies really take their time with this.

Jared talking at least from 30min forward, the UI is pretty cancer still on twitter spaces
Jared mentioned that this is unprecedented in many ways, one of them is that Starship is basically privately funded

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1651361009708281857

>>15398124
doing everything in one launch is oldspace. Artemis will use multiple flights of multiple rockets including refueling and various crew transfers.

>>15398136
maybe you should familiarize yourself with what an orbit is

>>15398132
source? there is some superficial damage to the outer cladding, not sure there is actual info about the tanks being fucked

>>15398144
>there is some superficial damage to the outer cladding
you think that won't need any fixing?

I have this feeling we only need to wait a few more years before SpaceX reinvents the space shuttle claiming they nailed reusability

Are hydromeme first stages the ultimate old space move? As real examples I can only think of the Shuttle which doesn't really count since it was the upper and its bastard child the SLS

>Gravity wells self assemble post scarcity quantities of matter.
https://twitter.com/CJHandmer/status/1651468554460610561
Then why leave Earth at all, Casey?

>>15398164
Because we want a 2nd post scarcity quantities of matter for another branch of humanity so that we can advance civilization to another world.

>>15398169
So if Mars were absent from the solar system or was as dry as the Moon, spaceflight would be a dead end?

>>15398144
>>15398102
don't forget the tower got absolutely pelted
imagine how much of the pipes are wiring are just swiss cheese right now

>>15398172
Very likely we wont have a 2nd lifeboat. Right now, Mars is the only possible/likely candidate within our civilization's capability for the forseeable and far future (until we can become a galactic civilization).

Its still possible that we can harvest asteroids and have some small outposts here/there, but earth would be the only real safe haven in the solar system, if its wiped out for some reason, all life is toast.

>>15398172
yes unironically
we might not even bother trying to go to another solar system if we think earth just got lucky

>>15398140
starts to talk about the polaris mission at about 1h 5min

>>15398172
>>15398175
>>15398177
how about europa or enceladus and possibly other moons? sure they are harder than mars, but still easier than going outside the solar system, aren't they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLfs376wXE

>>15398186
Europa is completely radiated hellhole and and destroys all life instantly. Unless its submerged deep inside and can withstand the cold temp -160C, even then its a death trap for humanity.

Enceladus is another -200 C temp moon thats eating a ton of radiation from Saturn.

Venus is close to 500 C.

Mars is ~-60C on avg but can go ~10 C in day time in summer.

>>15398177
>>15398179
Mars is handy, but not vital. Without it we would still have the Moon and asteroids (and in the far future, Mercury and the outer system) to build what we need.

>>15398216
so you're saying we have better chances on proxima b?

>>15398211
like the pictures before this seems to be after road opening but before the storm
haven't seen any close ups after the storm yet

>>15398216
Temperature ~1 meter under of the surface of Mercury in a ring near the poles averages 22 C. 9,159 W/m2 of sunlight for electricity production and ample metal resources, one of the only reasons why there isn't more interest in it because it's very difficult to reach with chemical propulsion and there is no real atmosphere for aerobraking.

>>15398164
>spincuck a soiboy, no real accomplishments, trying to ride off someone elses accomplishments for SPEEEN. Complains when Musk is not Bezos.
>marschad an actual chad, PhD, actually worked in space industry, content to realize the better world he envisions through his own actions. Fully believes in Martian Manifest Destiny.
It really doesn't look good for spinners.

>>15398073
You’re actually Chinese aren’t you? Mainland or born overseas?
I appreciate your posts a lot, no one else is making effortposts about China

>>15398232
>proxima b
Likely worse than Mars. Mars rotates, has water and isn't deep in its stars gravity well getting battered by flares. Red dwarf worlds are crappy

>>15398232
Aside from the problem of getting there, proxima B has a very fast orbital period around its sun. Just 11 days. I dont know how that would affect humans living there. So thats not a guarantee either.

Daily reminder the NRO is still the most advanced and well funded space agency ever.

>>15398186
It takes 6 months to get there

What actually happens at BO? are there any employees or is it just Bob Smith in a Hangar?

>>15398243
>Martian Manifest Destiny
And when Mars is fully developed, then what? We stop expansion because ewww spinhabs?

>>15398260
nobody knows other than the conditions are bad and they are treated kind of badly
not sure what they are actually accomplishing
they have a gorillion different simultaneous projects and never seem to finish anything

MANNED INTERSTELLAR TRAVEL IN OUR DAYS
IS NECESSARY


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ0qcuR9Lq8&pp=ygUFa29pa2k%3D

>>15398260
It seems like a weird mix of blueskying without actual projects to show for it, and overbearing managment and middle managment, all operating hardware poor

>>15398229
the moon and asteroids are a joke for sustaining life

>>15398276
That's a skill issue. All necessary elements can be found there.

>>15398283
do you even understand how little the mass of the asteroids actually are
once you get a few million humans trying to live off those resources they will rapidly dwindle

>>15398177
>Mars is
shit. Venus would be viable if it was not yeeted in the solar formation and turned into a failed earth

Wanking over foreign bodies as some sort of must have destination is pretty cringe and retarded anyway. Usually sign of narrow minded foresight. Main attraction is getting to leo cheap which opens up a whole range of options like orbital dockyard building orbital only cargo ships transporting materials between industrial sites like mines. Most of the solar system colonial existence wont be romantic star trek office space larps on Mars or wherever the fuck. It will be blue collared marine and manufacturing technician jobs on ships and factories

>>15398287
it will be mostly robotic

>>15398246
>no one else is making effortposts about China
well yeah as they are complete meme with their knock off soviet copies. That and obnoxious wumao turd warrior posting across the entire site has ensured they will be mocked and ridiculed even if they manage to come up with something that is not just stolen and copied from somebody else

>>15398296
you say that, but they are the only ones that come close to spacex's launch rate.

>>15398296
See? Not an effortpost in sight. There are no turdie Chinese shills on /sfg/, I’m sorry you’re still butthurt about /pol/ and /k/.

>>15398287
>yes goy live in a literal 500C hell where even the metals start to melt

This is the 2nd time in a row /sfg/ was staged off pages 2 by a desperate attention whore looking to start
>muh vanity thread
/sfg/ is no longer about spaceflight, pathetic

>>15398332
Last thread was at page ten when this one staged
And it only staged early because the thread before that was a disaster. Please don’t try to restart tard drama, we’ve only barely just wrangled our tards

>>15398332
wtf are you talking about, this was staged on page 10

>>15398285
main belt alone has enough resources to build up 3000 Earths worth of surface area

Behead schizos, roundhouse kick schizos into trash compactors, slice schizo heads off with a katana, throw schizos out of an airlock, asphyxiate schizos with carbon dioxide, crush schizo skulls against the pavement, use schizos as a meat flame trench, use schizo blood to cool steel flame diverter

>>15398248
mars isn't a much better option than earth if we want life to survive more than a billion years form now

>>15398257
so pretty close right?
>easier than going outside the solar system

>>15398332
jannies will sometimes nuke bunches of threads after /sfg/ stages, that's what happened

>>15398073
>>15398246
What is china going to get there with? This? Let's see a reusable engine first

>>15398362
>>15398287
>>15398248
>>15398216
My friends. We do not need to fight. The future of our species is like modern dating. You do not have to impregnate just one woman and stay with her. You can bang and impregnate as many as you want. Like ghengis. And these planetary, astroid and spinning women do not get to say no! The universe can’t abort them all.
We should put our cocks in every virgin well, and we should never, ever wear a rubber

>>15398285
Most of the mass of the earth is just there to create gravity.

>>15398402
Thats fine, but only one of them has a viable womb and all other are sterile.

>>15398413
We will make them fertile

>>15398402
based

>>15398413
for all we know proxima b can have better conditions for life than mars
we should be sending probes there as fast as possible

>>15398435
Its likely a faster probe in 1000 years will reach proxima centauri before we launch one today.

>>15398440
That's a dumb reason not to start today.
"Someone else will do it later probably, no reason to bother now"

>>15398456
Why don't you build a dyson sphere around the solar system (not the sun, but the solar system) today?

>>15398456
yeah, thats what caused the 50 year old lull in spaceflight
people seem to think technology just trudges along and gets better by itself, but that is just not the case
its people using their time, effort, precious brain cycles to drag technology forward

>>15398463
Why don't you go fuck yourself?

>>15398440
how do we build a faster probe if we don't start with slower ones?

>>15398463
that's a good point actually, we could actually start building the infrastructure for starting a dyson swarm (sphere is retarded) around the sun (why would we built it around solar system?) today,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5EX1u0fA78
Launch finally? Weather is better than yesterday.

>>15398055
Stream is up.

FELIZ JUEVES

>>15398480
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5EX1u0fA78
3 minutes

>SN11 flashbacks

Clear is cute once again today

>>15398485
>tumblr meme

When does it spin around and explode?

>>15398500
Get out of here tourist

187th landing

>>15398124
Unironically because congress said so.

They should make a new rocket garden at the Kennedy visitor center with all the new rockets like Falcon 9, Neutron, Terran R, Vulcan, Starship, New Glenn etc

>>15398055
Viasat mission is a heavy, not 9.

>BRAAAAP
Nice landing.

>>15398130
>>15398131
>>15398134
>>15398508
no, seriously
they must have given some justification for this
possible starship can be unable to land safely on earth on time or something?

>>15398529
Basically, starship is unproven with crew, and moon starship doesn't have the reentry tiles anyways,

>>15398496
>tumblr
Have never used such thing, Asuka best girl btw

>>15398529
It's probably difficult to make a non-ablative heatshield work in a Lunar reentry?

>>15398529
Congress mandated SLS and mandated Orion. That's it.
Program would not be allowed to move forward without these stipulations. Welcome to pork barrel politics, the pork must flow.

>>15398529
There is no launch escape system on SS. So it better be reliable before humans fly on it.

>>15398533
I regret to inform you that the meme started on tumblr. Tumblr likes day of the week memes, all the way back to the heady days of topless Tuesday, before people thought
>hey maybe we shouldn’t encourage highschool girls to post their tits on a weekly basis

>>15398529
A capsule is just better for now—safer, more understood, will be ready quicker. NASA would need to certify starship for human spaceflight and that would take a long time.

>>15398529
The truth is the congressional mandate.
If you want to stay happy don’t look into this. Once you know the truth about SLS and shuttle and congress, the d*pot ban, the red dragon fatwa, the SRB mandate, SLS as moon-to-mars… and god help you if you ever find out about the Alabama river rocks. Every one of these things is real, and your ignorance is the only bliss you’ll find. Don’t take the black pill anon, just focus on spacex

>>15398079
You have to go back

ITS OUT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCYSVmSPM7E

>>15398573
lol at the hunks of rebar and concrete everywhere
Also, that poor fucking tree.
>hoooollleeeeeee shiiiittttt...

>>15398035
how many of you have watched this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY

>>15398573
Plovers shortly before they flew into the exhaust and died. dude trust me

>>15398513
heavy is just 3 F9s strapped together

>>15398586
>>>/pol/

holy cfucjk

>>15398573
KINO

>>15398492

>>15398595
ignorance is bliss

>>15398586
>American Moon

Damn right it is

>well dwellers arguing about which hostile shithole they want to exist in again
wells aren't for living in

>>15398604
this board is full of normies and redditors

>>15398609
They’re for cumming in

is that a leak or something? Why would one engine have such a visible flame

>>15398614
it broke

>>15398573

I hate normies

https://apolloinrealtime.org maximum comfy

>>15398625
He’s ESL so who cares. Maybe he can bitch to chavez about it

I want to spread my seed throughout the solar system. I was thinking a glass vile of cum that breaks on impact when impacting Mars or a moon like Ganymede. Would it instantly evaporate but leave some traces of DNA? Or would drilling and putting the vile in a hole be better. The vile lid could then breakdown when it reaches a certain temperature or humidity and release my cum. Thoughts?

>>15398626
debunked
>>15398586

>>15398631
>NASA Planetary Protection funding increasing

>>15398614
leaking fluid from HPU getting lit

>>15398573

>>15398632
you won't find clueless ESL 3rd worlders here to convince with your tripe my man. Go back to /pol/.

>/pol/tards now coming in to /sfg/ posting their garbage trying to "convert" anons here to their conspiracy theory side

Collagefag will pay.

>>15398639
I will nuke Romania to end his rein of terror

>>15398639
>truth is a conspiracy theory
the number they've done on you guys..

the 8k tracker shots are pretty good, better than what spacex stream had

>>15398639
it's been surprisingly schizo-free here, it's sort of incredible than within 2-3 minutes of posting a space thread on /tv/ or /pol/ or /k/ or /g/ (probably others) you get the saaameeeee webms and jpgs from ~2 people.
It used to be the same on /sci/. Just look in the archive for .webms around 2019. I do sort of miss the LIE.webm / space rat poster.

>>15398643
You're out of your element

>unironically paying attention to flat earth conspiracy theorists

>>15398649
I'm done arguing with them on /pol/, gradually I came to hate them.

>>15398649
flat earth was spread to combat moon landing realism

>>15398649
Proof that NASA fakes the sun rising “over the horizon” …. Biden will pay for this

>>15398649
Night shots are kino

when taking off from a tidally locked moon, is it more efficient to take off from one side or the other? I wouldn't think so, but mechanics can be weird

why are you scared of a little documentary if you're so sure of yourselves?

>>15398656
agree

>>15398657
would gravity be stronger on one side versus the other? I would think the side facing the planet would be easier to ascent from the more altitude you gain.
t. KSP engineer

>>15398658
because it's like posting a documentary about Finland being a hoax in a nordic /int/ thread. It's 'useless', for lack of a better word.

>>15398658
>same old tired arguments that I've debunked countless times which everyone just repeats again the next day like nothing happened

Yeah no thanks, stay in your ignorant little bubble where the reach of Man is limited and I'll be here celebrating the Faustian spirit and mankinds limitless potential.

>>15398657
watched a few of them, safe to say people that make them don't understand elementary geometry, logic or math. It's kinda like a religion

>>15398658
We're cultists of the frontier here on /sfg/ and we don't tolerate disgusting heresies.

yum

>>15398675
for me, its cubes (6)

>>15398675
reminds me of Demo 2
>we took 2 bottles from bag A and put wrappers into bag C
>uh yeah update for you we each had 1 bottle of water each and stowed them into the crew bag

>>15398675
>12$ buy 39 grams of peaches
Biden's America.

Are we ready for Starship OFT-2?

>apollo 14 mission report
>The translunar injection trajectory lay closer to the plane of the geomagnetic equator than that of previous flights and, therefore, the spacecraft traveled through the heart of the trapped radiation belts.
i thought they solved the radiation issue by avoiding the belt?

>>15398690
They also solved it by passing through the belt in a matter of hours if not minutes, where any sort of deadly exposure would take days.

>>15398689
Not ready, and it won't matter since we aren't even two weeks away yet.

>>15398588
you think this is funny?

>>15398698
No, it's hilarious

>have to wait ~7 hours for the next rocket launch and it might scrub to weather

UGHH

TORTURE

>>15398690
Radiation is a meme

Ya'll ready for a Starship rescue mission in the near future

>>15398707
depends on who they're rescuing.

>>15398675
>Lemon Food Bar
Brings connotations to "Real American Cheese Product".

>travel to space on a billion dollar rocket
>have to eventually depend on some rickety navy recovery gizmo to grab you out of the ocean
always made me laugh

>>15398708
tim dodd

>>15398711
Might as well row back to land after splashdown

>>15398684
>Elon looking more like the American president than the American president, he even has the amount of daily pushback youd expect for a president

>Thomas Schwagmeier and Eric Jones have created a detailed traverse map derived from LROC low-periapse image M168353795R (released 6 September 2011) and traverse details extracted from the Journal Text
neat

>>15398712
Imagine watching Tim dodd become Tim drown live on national television as a microfracture at no fault of SpaceX itself has occured and now they are choking to death, the kino is simply too much for a man to handle

>>15398690
Yeah....

>>15398684
Top ramen costs ~$0.1 dollar or 10 cents. It can feed a hungry for a meal. 2x that per day = 20 cents.

>>15398725
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/tnD7080RadProtect.pdf

>>15398725
not great, not terrible

>>15398725
Wow it's fucking nothing

ummm

uhhhhhh Conjunctionbros I'm not feeling so good...

>During the Apollo 17 review, Jack Schmitt recalled that some geologists had been critical of Buzz's use of the term "biotite" which, formally, is a black to dark green form of mica. What Buzz was looking at was not biotite; however, as Schmitt points out, the description gave an excellent first impression of the appearance of the minerals Buzz could see in the rocks. Schmitt believes that the criticism was entirely unwarranted and, more than twenty years after the fact, still gets angry when he thinks about it.

>>15398745
Geology is the least interesting thing about the Apollo program desu

>>15398738
just spin the habs bro, just water jacket your living quarters senpai

>>15398738
I didn't think it was that bad until I noticed the logarithmic scale. I guess, uh, the regolith is there for a reason?

>>15398750
How much water would you need? How many launches is that?

>>15398754
Doesnt matter, Starship will do everything

Starship will solve everything.

>>15398745
Honestly, I went all the way to a geological institute to confirm if some Nepherite was indeed nepherite, the german guy there kept misunderstanding no matter how many times I repeated the name in English or german that I was saying meteorite
Tl;dr there is a lot of rocks out there, and not even geologists knows every rock

>>15398614
engine rich combustion

>>15398754
quite a bit to bring it down to background earth levels according to a quick search, like 1m thick which covering an entire shit would he hundreds of tons.

>>15398738
>Let me spend months more time loitering in orbit instead of underneath regolith with practically no radiation exposure and then ignore how much more delta-v this takes compared to a conjunction transfer, resulting in lower payload and less shielding
>>15398756
Starship can do both types of transfers depending on the window, it's just that opposition transfers are retarded. Old space is wracking its head around how it can get contracts to build a nuclear electric or nuclear thermal Mars vehicle despite that there isn't a real use for one and it would become a massive boondoggle.

>When asked in early 2014 about the source of speculation about spontaneous combustion of lunar dust when exposed to oxygen in the LM cabin, Jack Schmitt wrote, "This was another stink bomb that Tommy Gold threw over the transom - that is Tommy Gold of 'sinking out of sight in dust' fame. NASA could never say 'shut up' to Gold, so we played lip service to worrying about pyrophoricity but basically ignored the question. There was no scientific rationale to think this was a problem." See also, pages 18-19 in Donald A. Beattie's Taking Science to the Moon: Lunar Experiments and the Apollo Program.

>>15398772
usa, russia and china cooperating on something that built trust and layed a framework for reactors in space would be a good thing.
>things that will never happen
i cope by taking fusion hopium

>>15398745
there is no one commonly acknowledged system of classification for minerals right now nor really a strict definition of mineral
IMA exists, but what if you have something that is in a transition zone? lets say between 50% albite and 50% anorthite
according to the picture it could be either andesine or labradorite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feldspar
and this is one of the most common minerals

biotite itself is also more of a group of minerals than a specific mineral
geologists should get their shit together and come up with a coherent system first

https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1651451872966762497

>>15398781
> CNSA/CASC published a preliminary analysis paper on the first flight failure of SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy. It mentioned that the take-off drift around the launch pad might have been actively controlled for safety of the tower.

>>15398782
/sfg/ speculated that on the day

>This is Apollo Control at 169 hours 28 minutes. Apollo 11 is 118,542 nautical miles from Earth approaching at a velocity of 5,225 feet per second. Crew is still asleep. Performance of all systems continues to be normal. Mid-course correction number 6, which was scheduled for an elapsed time of 172 hours, has been canceled. The trajectory is such that it will not be required. From the Manned Space Flight Network we have a report of a contribution to the Apollo 11 mission from a 10 year old boy in Guam. The Guam tracking station is receiving telemetry from this mission and had a problem with one if its antennas - a bearing. The bearing was replaced with the assistance of a 10 year old boy named Greg Force who had an arm small enough that he could work through a 2 and a half inch diameter hole to pack the new bearing. We're now showing entry interface with the Earth's atmosphere 25 hours, 33 minutes, 30 seconds from now, and the Green Team of Flight Controllers, led by Cliff Charlesworth, is now taking over from Glynn Lunney and his Black Team of Flight Controllers. This is Mission Control Houston.

>>15398782
I imagined that it was written by a chatbot that can analyze a video and make point by point event based descriptions

>>15398777
I feel like Starship got off the pad pretty quickly. What's it gonna look like with all engines firing?

>>15398102
>ignoring that the OLM has to be redone if not replaced
It’s not just the concrete and dirt

>Lunik: Inside the CIA’s audacious plot to steal a Soviet satellite
>The boastful Soviets had sent their Luna rockets on a world tour. At one exhibition in New York, American spies had confirmed that a Luna on display was legit. The CIA plotted to kidnap the spacecraft, loot it, and put it back without the Soviets knowing. But they dared not tamper with it on American soil.
>Then the CIA learned that on November 21 the Soviet exhibition was headed to the Auditorio Nacional in Mexico City. An intercepted shipping manifest described “models of astronomic apparatus.” The dimensions of the crate matched the Luna rocket: 17 feet long and 8 feet wide. Jackpot. The CIA just needed several hours alone to disassemble, photograph, scrape the rocket for remnants of liquid fuel, and inspect the parts for factory markings that could give them intelligence on Soviet operations.
>Eventually, they settled on a plan. Silveti and his team of spies would need to hijack the truck carrying the spacecraft on the evening it left the exhibition. They would re-route it to a lumber yard owned by his brother-in-law, where CIA engineers would arrive in the dead of night to dismantle and inspect it. They would have to somehow return it to the Soviets by seven o’clock the next morning
https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/01/28/1016867/lunik-cia-heist-steal-russian-satellite-space-us-ussr/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/rogers-earnings-1.6823409

> Rogers is one of the big three telecom companies in Canada

>>15398794
It took 10 seconds to get off the pad when it shouldve taken 6, and it was only running at 90% power. It was on the pad much more than anticipated and clearly had an effect on the engines by fucking up the concrete and sending it to them.

>>15398795
just replace the wires that need replacing, they already tested some of it and it seems to work
fix the shit that is broken, you don't need to rebuild it all

>>15398797
50s-70s cia was something else

>>15398797
lol, did they do it?

at what speed is starship (theoretical for now) travelling at maxq?

>>15398799
It is an excellent move from SpaceX if they can partner with large telecom operators inside the country and have them sell Starlink as part of their packages to rural people, where SpaceX doesnt have to be the ones to handle all the legal issues and customer service issues

>>15398791
looks more like a smartphone translation from chinkian

>>15398804
You're goddamn right they did!

>>15398800
the countdown timer on the stream is wrong; engine startup absolutely 100% happens at t-6 but on the stream it was at t-2 for startup. (that's a delta of 4 seconds and 10-4=6, which is the expected amount of time spent on the pad after t-0). The launch profile was fine sans 3 missing engines. Got a source for that 90% throttle though? I never saw a concrete figure but the estimates I found based on the rate of acceleration all said close to 95% throttle

>>15398675
I am sure half of that shit was terrible by the time they ate it. Peach Ambrosia, that is left to reconstitute back to its original parts after six days? Nah, pass.

>>15398738
Isn't that jack shit compared to what plane captains/crew get?

Why do Americans think they can colonize other plabets when they consistently fail to colonize 3rd world shitholes filled with farmers armed with old soviet surplus?

>>15398738
>>15398852
<1 mSv in a year is on average received by aircrew where all routes flown do not exceed an altitude of about 9000 metres. 6 mSv in a year is a typical radiation doses received by aircrew flying long-haul polar routes.
Yeah i don't know to to tell radiation apart because the idiots use msv for fucking everything

we WILL colonize Mars with robots

>>15398456
You never heard of the wait calculation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wait/walk_dilemma#:~:text=The%20corresponding%20problem%20in%20interstellar,before%20committing%20to%20the%20journey.

>>15398884
we have no way to know how long technological progress will take

>>15398886
Yeah thats why you wait

>>15398892
no that is why you go, the tech might never progress in the speed department

>>15398894
Put a trip on so i can know when your 70 iq ass posts in the future

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1651638991853088768
BIG NEWS

>>15398035
And there you have it.
Starship lost 9 engines during ascent
Credits: the basedbean astronaut.

>>15398899
2 months? Damn that's fast.

Holy fucking based, AA is ripping NASA to shreds even when Starship just fucked up OFT-1

>>15398884
we're entering a period of a technologically driven dark age. it will take centuries at best to recover from what will come in the next decades.

>>15398898
what a compelling argument
tech just doesn't progress by itself
if you have a clear path towards some tech and a reasonable estimate on how much you would wait, then waiting makes sens
if there is nothing like that, by your logic you should never leave because the tech might improve at some point
so you just wait and wait and never leave

>>15398899
I knew it, doomers on suicide watch

>>15398899
HAHAHAHAHHAHA Doomers ETERNALLY BTFO I fucking KNEW I was right to trust Elon
WATERCOOLEDSTEELPLATE CHADS REPORT IN!! We are SO BACK

>>15398901
TWO MORE MONTHS

>>15398916
TWO WEEKS SISTERS SEETHING HAHAHAHAHA ITS OVER YOU ALL GET THE AIRLOCK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a99QXRIO1g4

https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2023/FarView_Observatory/

>

FarView is a low frequency (5-40 MHz) radio telescope array comprised of 100,000 dipole antennas, dispersed over ~ 200 km2. The observatory is manufactured in-situ, utilizing Lunar Resources’ developed technologies that first extract metals (along with oxygen) from lunar regolith then manufacture most of the required elements of the observatory: dipole antennas, solar cells, power lines, from those materials. FarView will be built on the lunar far side to shield it from the Earth’s ionospheric and anthropomorphic radio interference that compromise these observations from being made on Earth.

>>15398899
all those doomers insisting it woukd take a year to pour concrete into a hole

That's 8 off in that picture though.

>>15398927
LITERALLY this. I said from the beginning that it wouldn't take long since they already had all the parts on site and the actual OLM and tower didnt take much damage. All you have to do is pour concrete, move over the system thats LITERALLY already made, install it, repair anything else that needs it (tank farms take literally no time its a FUCKING cylinder) and start your engines.

>>15398899
DOOOMER BROS!!!! WHAT WILL WE DO NOW?

>spacex has consistently build things fast (out of nonsensical regulatory delays)
>people still get confused and make prediction about why spacex will take a long time

>>15398943
>they really think that SX cant pour some concrete when they are building 9 ships and boosters all at the same time

>This ANNIHALATES the oldspace company

>>15398951
boeing is like a cockroach in a nuclear war

>>15398951
>>15398910
Wheres the livestream?

>>15398884
I've had the walking/waiting dilemma before. I think the decision depends on some bus arrival time probability distribution

>>15398899
I think NASA also said the first test flight was gonna be months before it actually was

>>15398973
>>15398975
the cum dump at the end

>>15398975
>>15398973
>>15398971
>>15398970
This fucking inkwell has a 4chan pass, notice post times.

>>15398973
>0:07
what did they mean by this?

>>15398991
Venting leftover fuel?

>>15398970
punching through the clouds is a pretty cool visual

>>15398991
dumps remaining propellant for safety

oldspace still rules

>>15398991
vented oxygen makes spilled kerosene burn more vigorously

>>15398999
checking

Who's hyped for Falcon Heavy launch later tonight?

>>15399011
I am. Unfortunately got noone irl to watch with

>>15399011
>Falcon
Yawn

>>15399011
got work early so will likely miss it

>>15399011
>expended
eh

>watching the science committee hearing
>ranking member speaks final words
>sometimes the lowest bidder is not always the best option

THE SHADE

LMAO

These clueless boomers have no idea how SpaceX operate and do things even when told so by Nelson

good webms

>>15399027
come watch the fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg

thank you for posting these wonderful WEBMs

>>15399017
I love his footage because you can clearly see it went straight up before veering from the tower. Which I now think was planed.
>>15399025
Literally 9 engines out Raptor is shit.

https://youtu.be/ziVLbEoQ4Sc

>>15399037
two based rockets and two abominations in one WEBM

HALO being built in Turin.

Yep I'm thinking we're going.

>>15399011
Me

>>15399037

>>15399050
hm people there climbing on the base of the statue

it is both wonderful to know we'll get to see tim die and it will be streamed in real time on his own channel. for that i might respect his grift a little.

>>15399054
A lot of people got tickets too for parking their cars wherever the fuck they wanted along the side of the road in the park instead of finding a parking spot. It was enjoyable to watch. The traffic leaving the place a gridlocked mess. I left my car and walked down the beach for breakfast. Saw a bunch of SpaceX engineers drinking beers and celebrating. It was a good day.

>>15398738
>64 Sv: Nonfatal dose to Albert Stevens spread over ≈21 years, due to a 1945 plutonium injection experiment by doctors working on the secret Manhattan Project
Radiation is a meme. I don't care. Send me to Mars, I'm ready.

>>15399056
I don't think the dearMoon crew will be able to livestream that much
wouldn't that necessitate a lot of satellites orbiting the moon? also I don't think starlinks can communicate in outward
i haven't seen any plans from spacex to do moon communication starlinks yet

>>15399056
You want a nice and wholesome man like Tim to die? You are a pathetic incel, he will be laughing at you on his way around and back down. Vile angry little manlet

>>15398164
You can dig much bigger holes on planets without native biospheres and surface oceans.

>>15398991
just a brap

>>15399032
>KOYAANISQATSI

t-minue 4 hours till falcon heavy launch

>>15399034
this is a nice one for showing one of the engines or APU exploding with debris

BOEING GETTING CALLED THE FUCK OUT BY BILL LOL

>>15399070
grifting isn't wholesome, tim.

>>15399034
interesting how in the latter part of the video you can see one of the central engines flickering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJVehYHtP6g

btw hearing livestream

>designs the SLS jobs program
>throws Boeing under the bus anyways
>likes SpaceX
Chaotic Neutral

comfy

>>15399103
He clearly only appreciates the SLS side of Boeing lmaooo

Centaur V dying an hero leads me to believe nothing about EUS is going to go smoothly

>found a nice asteroid with lots of useful mineral
>crash it on the dark side of the moon
>mine it there then launch it to earth
im going to be so rich bros

>>15399105
serenity

Gas lighting from democratic house is another politicization

>>15399115
LMAO the amount of snark and subtle passive aggressiveness in these hearings

>>15399112
Pretty good idea my fren

>>15399112
Be careful of the lunar demiurge

>>15399112
just crash it on earth, cheaper to mine there

SLS
>45 states
>28k jobs
lmao

Yo Frost is based

>>15398658
Because flat earth is a glownigger psyop. They're always trying to get you to leave 4chan and spend hours watching some playlist. No sir I'm staying right here.

>>15399130
tbf keeping on top of nuclear warhead delivery but doing some other stuff is worth it at a geopolitical level. but it will never get us into space.

>>15399136
>leave 4chan
What's here

Mr casten is such a faggot

>>15399141
a broadly free and anonymous forum of discussion + funni shitposting. it's not our fault normies joined the internet and along with silicon valley with web2 ruined everything.

>>15399027
The "best option" is whatever brings the most pork for their district.

>>15399150
Why don't the glowies simply do what they did with reddit and compromise the mods.
You control the jannies you control the site.

>>15399147
MUH IP

>>15399156
cause everyone would leave. /sci/ and /sfg/ at least along with most low traffic boards have done far better than the utter cluster fucks that are /pol/ or /k/. hiromoot should have nipped (lol) all the generals in the bud because its broken the site and it spills over everywhere.

>muh Russia
>muh China
>muh STEM
>muh jobs

Congress is so boring

>>15398927
>>15398934
They were going to have to dig that concrete up to run all the pipes and then place the metal plates flush with the OLM foundation anyways...

DELAY IN EUS PRODUCTION NOO

ARTEMIS IV is gonna be fuckiing 2028 AAAAAAA

>>15399165
phew, I was already getting worried SS would be the bottlneck

>>15399166
Now that would be very embarassing

>>15399166
might still be to Artemis III

>>15399165
Is NASA able to circumnavigating their contracts and hire someone else to do the job? I mean it will probably cost more because duping but.. if it saves 4 years then it might be worth it

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1651663676980490262

>FTS never activated

Bold claims and conjecture from CSI

>>15399186
a Redditor spacex employee said they did. SpaceX said they did. Pretty sure FAA said they did. Our eyeballs say they did. What?

>>15399186
I think CSI needs to lay down the crackpot for a day or two

>>15399190
FAA said they did too yeah

reminder that the rocket exploded the moment FTS was activated. Scott Manley is wrong on this issue

>>15399186
Is this nigger on crack? Ahh who am I kidding

>Carl Sagan: The preeminent astrophysicist and cosmologist of modern history, Carl Sagan smoked marijuana regularly. He went on to become a strong advocate for its use in enhancing intellectual pursuits.
didn't know Sagan was a drug addict

>>15399194
the pic of ss intact with sh wrenched of the side with the coupler still intact says otherwise.
tankship.

>>15398900
I "only" count 8:
>2 center
>2 SW
>2 SE
>2 NE
Are you saying the SW cluster has 3 engines out?

>>15399186
this issue will finally be settled when SpaceX release 4k onboard footage

>Nelson praised SpaceX and falcon/dragon again, called it the workhorse of the commercial and government space sector
>mentioned how it was developed/built by SpaceX with substantial NASA help & incentive
>wants to see the same success on the moon with both landers (SpaceX and whoever wins the 2nd)

This guy is based wtf, he clearly loves how commercial cargo/crew ended up for NASA

>>15399211
Time for a puff!

>>15399223
>whoever wins the 2nd
IF THEY DARE

>>15399225
stoners will not be allowed in space

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/space/article/nasa-super-guppy-houston-commercial-space-station-17920584.php#photo-23722861

Raffaeolo to Axiom

meth is the spaceman's drug

>>15399228
Its not like getting second options is bad, but-.. it would be so sad to see one of these wet farts get there first

>>15399211
Yep. They don't make pop sci astronomers like they used to.

>>15399237
I unironically think the left two have much less risk

>>15399229
But Musky smokes weeeed

>>15399244
geminin and kilroy linked up ohshittt

>>15399244
he also does coke

>>15399219
ahahaha not happening

>>15399244
there will be mandatory drug tests at a minimum

>cant minimum wagie on earth driving a forklift without a piss test
>"yea bruh we'll smoke all the way to mars 420 blaze it"
you will never leave this well

>>15399244
also drinks alcohol, takes quaaludes and has talked positively about psychedelics

>>15399271
can confirm that you can drive a forklift without a piss test

>>15399276
not in anywhere serious.

Hibernation drugs will be the only ones allowed

>>15399293
but what about SPACE WEED

>>15399293
>esa
that joke is too easy

>>15399302
European sleep agency is a very serious rocket company, funded and bank rolled by the European mafia, you are all wonderful, thank you, and have a good day

>>15399293
>Hibernation drugs
sci-fi shit

>>15399293
actual pop sci. ESA is not a serious space agency. Very embarrassing.

>>15399307
does a medically induced coma even seriously inhibit the metabolism?

>>15399307
>>15399308
wrong you dumb nignogs
>Human torpor: translating insights from
nature into manned deep space expedition, Biological Reviews (2020
https://sci-hub.ru/10.1111/brv.12671

>>15399293
i could rape her and she would never find out

>>15399318
Never demonstrated in humans, also, note the random 'data collection and AI'. It's garbage.

2 more months

Why are ISS spacesuits so thick? Do they really get hit by meteorites up there?

>>15399186
CSI and Hullo went full retard about the FTS

common sense skeptic

>>15399351
Micrometeorites are deadly and malicious, never underestimate them: recently they took out two baseduzes in exactly the same way (hit in their most vulnerable spot). They're learning.

>>15399318
>During a long-duration manned spaceflight mission, such as flying to Mars and beyond, all crew members will spend a
long period in an independent spacecraft with closed-loop bioregenerative life-support systems
Sci fi sleep pods will never be possible. Just because some Chinese "researchers" shit out a paper theorizing on it doesn't make it possible

>>15399231
they... sold a space shuttle lab module to axiom?

What will people eat in deep spess? Algae?

>>15399386
rep med vitapaste

>>15399386
aeroponic fish

>>15399386
bugs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joqNT2amTpQ

t-2 hrs

It's waiting for us

>>15399231
seems good to find some use out of that module

>>15399386
EntoPaste

It's wild that Apollo astronauts and mission control probably eyeballed the Moon landing and back since they didn't have modern computers.

50 years later with 100 times faster computers a series of countries and companies fail to make a trivial moon landing. the Germans that did the moon landing really were something else

I graduated bros :)

When will he get an assignment?

ESGfag just posted the most blatantly obvious deliberately staged photo of roadkill thats obviously taxidermy and people are falling for it lmao

People like Chris Combs actually taking it seriously too

It's literally fucking over.

>>15399425
Post it here?

>>15399385
They sold an unused ISS module to Axiom.

>>15398087
By the time the OLM fixes are in, they'll have 3 stacks ready to go, potentially 4. The only thing unclear is if they have engines on hand to populate all 4 stacks. That said, based on S24/B7 flight, I would consider B10 and 11 and S25-34 engines to be subject for revision/reengineering based on all sourced and analyzed data from the latest test flights.

So overall, S25/B9 is the only real stack that would be ready for actual flight.

>>15399425
great now I have to go to Twitter

>>15399443
Thanks, but uh. Yeah. This is very obviously roadkill