/sci/ - Science & Math

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Hit that instant replay

>>15392300
congrats on your dubs

anyone have the civ6 video?

>>15392310
the house sized chunk of concrete hitting the water makes it for me

>>15392316
World's biggest rocket certainly didn't disappoint for spectacle

That's all I've got for sfg-ready webms

when i die i want it to be underneath superheavy

>>15392328
We know, Pierce.

Someone should get an "I'd rather be fission" trucker cap made and send it to Zubrin. His combover attempt looks like he's being molested by seaweed.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1650746883260796928

>>15392348
happy for them

>>15392348
I'm glad we are milking the UAE for funding but they have to see that this is a pretty weak accomplishment. The japs and the US basically did it for them...

>>15392352
we need to encourage them so they can spend their money on mars colonies instead of "line cities" and tall empty buildings

Its so tiring to discuss the launch to people. How do people focus on the pad and the flight termination when spacex just proved their concept and did so with flying colors.

Hey guys, how does it feel to live in a post-starship era?

>>15392359
We really don't need space Arabs. The line city and skyscrapers are kind of great for the West because we get ridiculously horrible human experiments without risking our people.

>>15392362
It would feel better if we rid ourselves of filthy pedophiles like you.

>>15392366
but anon they are well adapted to the desert realm

>>15392369
cope

>>15392370
Have you ever interacted with them? They are some of the laziest, uninspired people. (Obviously blacks are worse) bBut I would rather have Iranians or space Moroccans as desert dwellers.

>>15392371
You won't ruin/sfg/ this time you avatar posting faggot.

>>15392362
>Hey guys, how does it feel to live in a post-starship era?
glorious

>>15392375
shut up lol

when do we get the IMAX footage

>>15392373
We dont need the people just the monayyy

>>15392380
https://youtu.be/ULeDlxa3gyc

>>15392362
>>15392371
>>15392378
https://twitter.com/inanout00/status/1650346739491295234

>>15392361
>the rocket was meant to explooode!!!
Cope.

>>15392384
>>>/a/

>>15392384
The whole series was complete trash, the whole franchise only has 2 good films.

>>15391910
Special delivery of r*eddit + TSLAQ at the same time

>>15392407
I'm going to fucking kill you if you post this faggot here ever again

>>15392407
>>15392387
>>15392362
You should all kill yourselves to death

>>15392362
I'm much rather live in the post-SLS era.

>>15392429
anybody got the pic of krystal getting anal fucked

>>15392366
How about all the money the Arabs pay for the technical expertise, that's pretty good too

>>15392361
that is why you only talk to the ones who at least know about the Falcon development and what it is. it is a must have prequisite. All other are tourists flocking to where the herd is currently going that can be completely ignored

>>15392380
One comes with the other i'm sure

>>15392384
>>15392378
>>>/a/

>>15392451
The money is good but not worth them coming along.

>It is this suspended dust that makes the Martian sky yellow brown, rather than an earthly blue—or, as is often claimed, pink. The idea that the Martian sky might be pink came from early data from the Viking landers. The Vikings had color cameras that could send back red, blue, and green versions of every scene; there were little reference charts attached to the landers so that the balance between the different colors could be properly established back on Earth. Unfortunately these charts were not visible in the first images from Viking 1, and so the color balance had to be done by guesswork. The result was a brownish-red surface with a grayish sky that, in some prints, came out as blue, and this was how Mars looked in the first pictures released to the press. A couple of days later pictures of the color chart on Viking 1 were obtained, and James Pollack—who had a keen interest in how much dust there was in the atmosphere—recalibrated the camera. Now the soil and rocks were red and the sky a dusty pink. This new unearthliness was not universally popular. According to William Poundstone’s excellent biography of Carl Sagan some people actually booed Pollack’s announcement, and the son of one member of the Viking biology team went round JPL retuning video monitors to make the sky look blue again. The shock wore off, though, and the pink skies soon became entrenched in the popular picture of Mars.
>the son of one member of the Viking biology team went round JPL retuning video monitors to make the sky look blue again
was it autism?

https://twitter.com/TitterDaily/status/1650636492950126613

yet another exclusive spaces starship thing
the previous one was pretty shit though, I don't remember anything actually new coming up (maybe a tidbit or something, but thats pretty shit for a hour long spaces)
I hope this time its more technical than going through the same motions once again like Musk has gone through for the last 10 years

https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1650721993518448640

>>15392523
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/24/spacex-starship-explosion-spread-particulate-matter-for-miles.html

btw Lora Kolodny has a history of posting anti-Musk propaganda, so just based on that I think this is probably bullshit

>>15392523
>>15392524
Very interesting, now face the wall.

>>15392524
OH NO, NOT THE PIPING PLOVER

Piping Plover bros...

ESGhound giving his opinion

SpaceX should've concreted the whole launch area so there would not be sand everywhere.

>>15392514
Kek, earfmen can't handle their illusions being shattered

>>15392534
Kek’d at particulate emissions. The man really does work for Kinder Morgan

I don’t think anyone could consider this to be emissions in any real, legal sense

>>15392549
>>15392534
so is he on some competitors payroll or just a attention whore?

Soon.

>>15392549
This would fall into control of air pollution from the demolition of structures, which is regulated. lol

>>15392558
lol @ this boomer pos

>>15392531
Piping Plover? More like.. GET PLOWED lmaoooo\thread

https://odysee.com/@januszkowalskii1979:e/NASA---Going-Nowhere-Since-1958-(Full-Documentary):4

How many Ls can the NPCs take before they break down?

>>15392577
Musk will go the the Moon (again) and Mars and you will remain dumb. Sound like a good deal?

failed engines lining up with pad columns?

>>15392581
Seething NPC

>>15392608
How about you go back to spam pol with your retarded x nonsense

This is the way, anons.

>>15392615
The NPC cries as he strikes you

>>15392621
Whats with the onion ring?

>>15392615
>>15392608
You should both kill yourselves

Is there any good data about the Moon's internal temperatures? I'm writing a story and I'm curious how deep humans could delve without temperatures becoming sweltering, and how deep a heat pump would have to be.

>>15392644
The NPCs hated Him because He spoke the truth.

>>15392534
I've never understood why anyone would care about preserving stupid frogs which, going by Darwinian law, ought to go extinct more than colonizing outer space.

https://twitter.com/esherifftv/status/1650640675757596672

Ellie posting coomerbait, might have to stop following

>>15392621
in orbit? sure. Construct it, tug it to nowhere and the see if you can get it working. First have to get to low earth orbit cheap though

>>15392654
>Imagine, if you will, the smell

Why do people get so triggered when I say BE-4 is much more reliable than Raptor?

>>15392666
Has it even been used on an actual flight yet?

>>15392666
Because only one of those has operational data.

>>15392666
Woah. I’m triggered.

>>15392667
It's gonna get used soon and we all know that oldspace gets their first launch right. Meanwhile raptor in it's 5 or so flights failed every single time

>>15392666
>why do people tell me to fuck off when I make shit up?
Anon, we aren't privy to be-4 failure rates, the way we are for Raptor. Maybe once enough have flown, we'll know.

>>15392666
how do you back that up?
I mean it might be true, wouldn't trigger me
However, reliability is just one of many attributes you need to consider when building an engine
what about mass manufacturibility? Cost? Performance (includes many metrics)?

>>15392671
I would count Mitsubishi H3 as oldspace seeing they are nearly 150 years old.

>>15392675
To add to this, additionally you have lifetime, how often do you have to repair/refurbish it between flights and how time consuming/costly is that? (Affects the total operating costs of the engine)

You can get reliability probably almost as high as you want if you ignore everything else, but even then maybe not
i do think there is some maximum where you can get with the first iteration regardless how much time, effort and money you use, the oldspace way of using massive amounts of effort on each iteration might not be the optimal way and if we look at the current launch market, it seems pretty clear to me it really isn't the optimal way

Raptor bros...

i'm posting this one again

Reminder: no hate speech allowed in /sfg/, your words have consequences

>>15392684
What happened to that anon that brought signs to the Starship launch?

>>15392685
CIA blacksite being tortured

>>15392683
Oh look, a man whos source of legitimate information is the crackpot he stows away into his coffee kettle

>>15392684
Wait until the ADL figures out Nazis drinks water and they have to start budgeting for soda, ale and coffee

>>15392690
he actually posted this news >>15392524 in the same twitter thread, which is kind of funny because it pretty much debunks him

>>15392696
That is pretty funny
I dont get what is with these peoples obession with finding faults with this program, they wish this fails and NASA drops them, theyd rather have just Boeing and friends again

>>15392684
FBI puts you on terrorist list if you use the word

"ITS OVER!!"

>>15392703
I don't think they know the choice is between SpaceX and oldspace companeis like Boeing, I think they think its between SpaceX (private company) vs NASA (public institution)
I've seen many rants/posts on twitter specifically about this issue, they think space is good but not good if its done by a private company and should not be commercialized and especially not good if its done by Musk I guess
there are a lot of people that just hate Musk specifically, even more lately as he is seen as right-wing by the left

>>15392717
You are probably right
>I've seen many rants/posts on twitter specifically about this issue, they think space is good but not good if its done by a private company and should not be commercialized and especially not good if its done by Musk I guess
> there are a lot of people that just hate Musk specifically, even more lately as he is seen as right-wing by the left
I wish Niel didnt shit on private companies like he did, well that and the whole NASA admin which routinly did everything to make it harder or just laughed at them rather than help (of course that does not include all of the admin, SpaceX did get commercial flight rnd money and support after all, albeit way less than certain other ones..)

>>15392717
Why do you retards need to make everything political? SpaceX is nowhere close to NASA in terms of technological prowess, and Musk is actually retarded, his track-record of scams is very telling.

>>15392717
It’s even funnier when they say NASA is good because it’s public and SpaceX wants to bring the MIC to space. I hear that a lot and every time it makes me genuinely laugh. They really don’t know

>>15392721
Low IQ alert.

>>15392725
Cope. Starship is never going to the moon.

>>15392727
Are you really still here

>>15392717
They dont care about their reasoning. What they hate is Musk because thats what the elites have told them in their sleep as they closed their eyes when they watch/read the MSM media. And now they're propagating these views, justifying it as best they can with some internal reasoning.

They don't care about if private companies run a space company or not, they don't care about NASA, they just care about what they're told and are grasping at a justification that tries to make sense in their mind.

>>15392721
what do you mean I try to make everything political? the next sentence is a complete non-sequitur and has nothing to do with what I said

>>15392731
The general opinion here seems to be that any criticism of Musk or SpaceX is due to a leftist political agenda.

>>15392581
You aren't going anywhere in this life anon. Neither are they, though they may try something during the EMPCOE supposedly.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/YsxccERAYBQs/

Shhh don't scream

>>15392734
no it isn't, Musk hate is somewhat apolitical
sure there are more people that hate him specifically about the political statements lately, but there have been people hating him for a long time for being a billionaire for instance
and there are plenty of leftist billionaires (at least democratic ones, maybe there is a distinction there)
also a quite large contingent of TSLAQ people that hate him and plenty are/were right-wing I think
and if you go even farther back, right wingers as a group were more likely to hate him due to electric cars, they were seen as political at some point but not anymore I guess (maybe they still are a bit)

>>15392735
this seems completely sane, but perhaps the discussion should be better done in >>>/x/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi_aq3PPhXo

>>15391753
>It's hard to find any reporting on anything Chinese
Imo these are some good English-language aggregators of news and info on the Chinese space industry and space exploration program

Andrew Jones
https://twitter.com/AJ_FI

Dongfang Hour
https://dongfanghour.com/
https://twitter.com/DongFangHour

SinoDefenseForum. They are primarily a forum for discussions on military hardware however they also have a space thread that is very active
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/chinas-space-program-thread-ii.9003

Cosmic Penguin
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin

An overview of the Chinese space companies that aren't CASC or CASIC (always somewhat outdated)
http://www.b14643.de/Spacerockets_4/index.htm

>>15392707
It never began.

Page 1 schizo is a good addition to /sfg/, since he's only annoying for a little while before he leaves, I just hope he never figures out how to use the catalog.

>>15392520
Elon honestly needs a severe beating that leaves lifelong injuries to remind him constantly

>>15391753
>It's hard to find any reporting on anything Chinese
Imo these are some good English-language aggregators of news and info on the Chinese space industry and space exploration program

Andrew Jones
https://twitter.com/AJ_FI

Dongfang Hour
https://dongfanghour.com/
https://twitter.com/DongFangHour

SinoDefenseForum. They are primarily a forum for discussions on military hardware however they also have a space thread that is very active
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/chinas-space-program-thread-ii.9003

CNSpaceflight
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight

Cosmic Penguin
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin

An overview of the Chinese launch companies that aren't CASC or CASIC (always somewhat outdated)
http://www.b14643.de/Spacerockets_4/index.htm

>>15392752
Thats my lockscreen pic

>>15392768
its easy to find later or even during the event re-streamed

About those water cooled plates. Do they enable a full duration static fire or will he continue to test it in the air?

Poor EML-2 niggas will have to look at this all the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzxHjHhpLrE

It's time

>>15392684
Sore wa... ovari da..

>>15392744
The flat earth truth is heavily censored on /x/

https://twitter.com/ESGhound/status/1650650951672291334

>>15392791
Why is it so brown?

>>15392798
But why? Seems like it should be on topic there

>>15392798
maybe /pol/ then, plenty of flat earth talk there

>>15392802
It would destroy 90% of the board narratives who rely on the globohomo space model and mysteries. Also the jannies are significantly more nasty there.

>>15392799
Yeah he would know his job is literally making kinder morgan look environmentally friendly. He’s just mad because he shorts Tesla like a lot of petrochem fags.

>>15392799
>I am recieving death threats
May we see them?
No.

>>15392781
>It's easy to arrest the person after the fact so don't worry about the crime

>>15392802
probably because pic rel is much cooler.

>>15392814
lmao, Musk isn't allowed to speak semi-privately to his fans? not a crime dude

a day without a launch and /sfg/ devolves into complete schizophrenia

>>15392821
moon landing failure today

>>15392817
>What is a metaphor?
Why are you here

>>15392798
>>15392802
>>15392806
/x/ rejects ideas peddled by Talmuddies
> The rabbis of the Talmud believed that the world was flat, and that the sun revolved around the Earth every day. There is a debate about the length of the solar year in the Talmud, and its consequences and the rare Jewish ceremony of the Blessing of the Sun (Birkat Hahammah) are discussed. The view of the talmudic rabbis is contrasted with that of the contemporary Greek astronomers. While the rabbis of the Talmud argued about the size of the flat Earth, the Greeks had determined the Earth to be a sphere, had calculated its circumference and had moved on to consider other questions.
https://academic.oup.com/book/1751/chapter-abstract/141387578?redirectedFrom=fulltext

>>15392825
>I'm merely pretending to be retarded

>>15392829
Your skin is dark, and thick, and your odor off-putting regardless of how much you bathe.

>>15392799
>endless manufactured delays
Just one L after another. How many more until the average space fan kills himself?

>>15392794
44:44, uh..huh....

2 bongs to ispace

>>15392799
crab in a bucket.

>>15392838
what is that in amerishart units?

>>15392844
about one roast turkey

Okay anons, you have to get one country to space in ten years, and then conduct a successful manned moon landing ten years after that. You will be the head of the space program, with a similar budget, proportionally, to ESA or JAXA. You can work with other countries, but you must use your own vehicles, landers, astronauts etc for those two goals or it doesn’t count. Which country do you choose?
>Turkey
>Brazil
>Uganda
>Vietnam
>South Africa
>Iran
>Indonesia
>Egypt
>Rwanda
>Venezuela
Choose wisely

>No long march 9 second stage reuse until the 2040s

Thats a long ass time, considering that sn15 was recovered after hop

>>15392856
These are all horrific, I cant believe youd wish such an awful fate upon me..
Anyways, id go for Iran

>>15392856
turkey is the easiest I would think

Hakuto landing in two hours, what can we expect? Will it just be telemetry?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpR1UUnix3g

>>15392856
Vietnam has a good geography for into space and they have a decent economy. They also are on decent terms with Russia, China and America so they can get help making roggets. Also since it’s centrally planned I think it could get the most public/civic attention and enthusiasm, and it’s more politically stable than most of this list

>>15392800
false color image

>>15392856
lmao

>>15392856
I'll pick Brazil because Embraer. Successfully staying in the civil aircraft market has to count for something even if they don't make engines.

>>15392856
Vietnam because I could reap the benefits of America, China, Russia, ESA, JAXA, and India. Shit I don’t think Vietnam has enemies anymore, they are too nice lol

>>15392856
>Brazil
Ez pick. They make airplanes already

Starlink Mission
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdvkb9UEf30

>>15392897
Oh, they postponed it to tomorrow already. Still kept the youtube counter rolling.

>>15392348
Then what the fuck is it, if not a captured asteroid?
>Inb4 'a moon'

uh it was supposed to already have launched

>>15392922
My boon what do you think moons are?

>>15392922
>>15392928
Akshually there is only one moon, and we classify what is often called moons of other planets as something different - moons is something we just call objects because we are familiar with the word

>>15392928
A miserable little pile of ejecta!

>>15392856
Turkey and Brazil have the Better all around aerospace industry, Iran has the better astronautical industry in particular, Indonesia and South Africa have decent military and transport industries.
Egypt, Venezuela are too unstable, Vietnam Has longer term potential but just lacks an aerospace industry. Rwanda is too small, Uganda lol.
South Africa can be ruled out for instability

Turkey would need an oversea launch Center.
I’d say Iran if you just want to go to space in 10 years, but going to the moon requires a more sustained industrial effort, I think only Indonesia or Brazil could have it, more so the former

>>15392856
Rwanda - Africa is already pioneering affordable helocopter tech, I think it's a diamond in the rough.

guys we got called out
>>>/pol/424775203

>>15392945
Richard N’xiono

>>15392958
Who cares
Go back
/sfg/ isn’t /sci/

>>15392958
Keep schizo bot posts where they belong. Don't drag that shit in here.

>>15392958
Who the hell cares for what a stormfag thinks of us?
They already lost the war anyway

>>15392856
Turkey would be the easiest assuming political stability.
I pick Iran because developing ICBMs for them would be worth the Mossad hit on me just for the geopolitical panic.

sorry

I guess it was started by collagefag?
kind of out of the loop why he was hated here?

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/424766486/

Jesus christ those threads are such cancer its so much worse than I remembered

>>15392972
I didn't see anything about being sorry in the Bible other than sorry sacks of shit burning in hell forever. Is there some reference you're making that has escaped my attention?

>>15392973
Earth is flat. Space rockets are a meme. More and more people are starting to see through the bullshit.

>>15392976
talking about the thread that was linked previously, not the archived one necessarily (it seems to have firmament types as well though)

>>15392973
He shilled all over other boards, resulting in a lot of extremely low quality retards shitting up the thread
He shilled for a space board because he’s retarded.
His collages used to be extremely low quality. They are still borderline schizo, I think only sub 80 IQ retards poisoned by /pol/ find collages of barely related images compelling. This is an example of a shit collage. Why do these images even go together? Why are they of varying quality? Why don’t they line up? Why do some have fucking black borders but not all
He was also just generally retarded and would say extremely stupid shit all the time and then sperg out about it. He was just a /pol/ tourist and was incapable of forming an intelligent opinion of his own that was based on a synthesis of evidence and his own knowledge. He’s an autist obsessed with spaceflight because he has no achievements of his own and so he has to see himself as part of the “we” that does heckin spaceflight

>>15392991
>>15392973
Just to add - he’s extremely fucking obvious every time. Like a lot of low IQ autists he just posts a fuckload of images and somehow thinks that is interesting. He tried to make threads happen on /n/ and even tried to pretend they were better than here, he shills a lot on /k/, and he’s obsessed with making /pol/ excited about spaceflight. All because he wants a spaceflight board where he can live out his reddit mod fantasies

>>15392973
Collagefag here, not my thread

I do everything on my phone through InShot, way too many images in that collage to be me

member when we used to discuss space flight and general colonisation of the solar system?

>>15393004
Yes it was based. Newfags can’t even into tilapia

China is setting up the ILRSCO, which is gonna be like their version of the Artemis accords.

https://twitter.com/aj_fi/status/1650730636401954817?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

Russia is a definite member, expecting Venezuela and Brazil to join as well, as Lavrov was talking about cooperation in space with those countries. India is a wild card, they were in talks to join the Artemis accords but that was years ago.

>>15392972
Fixed

>>15393015
wew

>>15393013
I can see India signing on, it honestly depends on where the wind is blowing through Modi’s empty brain when he gets asked. Whatever he thinks will make people respect India, and no matter what he’ll fuck it up because India

>>15392683
now if you see his feed you will immediately find he is a libtard with severe musk derangement syndrome as well as multi layered doomer on top of that

fuck off

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISRO_space_station
>20 tons
that's tiiiinnyyyy. Less than the Apollo service module.

>>15393030
well it is sized for indians

https://twitter.com/astrobotic/status/1650863053607690240
FH 2026 for lunar pole landing

>>15392742
>Musk hate is somewhat apolitical

EDS brainrot was significantly smaller before he became literally Hitler by buying twitter.

>>15393013
I can see Lula trying to take Brazil out of Artemis

>>15393036
I hated his union busting long before he brought twitter and since claiming twitter was going to support free speech and them deleting the guy tracking his plane he quickly proved himself a hypocrite not worthy of respect.
>but he hates the sjws
A broken clock...

>>15393041
leave faggot, this is a Musk Worshipping General.

>>15392742
>Musk hate is somewhat apolitical
I dont believe it.

All I see is 100% communist far left takes.

>>15392769
This is another good one. It also includes a bit more about ongoing missions, international cooperation agreements, etc
https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher

>>15393041
I’m a two and you should kill yourself

Been thinking about Mars cycler, there is a case for it; mainly to reduce the number of passenger flights and reduce the amount of consumables that need to be launched into a mars injection.

Will elaborate later.

>>15392682
BE-4bros, we just can't stop winning

>>15393063
>starts the only space flight discussion in the space flight general
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves

>>15392684
normies still believe the great replacement is a conspiracy theory kek. Straight up 1984

>>15392973
I unironically like collagefag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpR1UUnix3g

few minutes until live

Lunar landing live stream 3 min
https://m.youtube.com/live/CpR1UUnix3g?feature=share

is it worrying that no other start ups or companies are developing broader space products that will be needed for literally everything not directly starship related or are we so early that literally no one can see the opportunities yet and the ones that do are wasting their time on small sat launchers?

Clear live
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xSRMjGo-mvg

>>15393076
>>15393079
it's just going to be people in a control room waiting for confirmation isn't it?

>>15392995
Sounds like a try hard NPC. It will never happen, CGI is the best the sciencebois can hope for.

>>15393063
Why would a cycler help with reducing the amount of consumables? Wouldn't a cycler rather help reduce the mass of everything except consumables? Or do you mean it would allow equipment necessary for a greater degree of recycling?

>>15393082
can't wait to listen her cry when it crashes

>>15393081
Likely, no one wants to start investing big money to develop the payloads that Starship enables until it's been shown that Starship will work as advertised, particularly that the cost will be low enough to make the business case work, though maybe also other parameters like payload dimensions, the deployment mechanism, vibrations, etc.

Also, no one wants to start investing big money into developing payloads only for SpaceX to then start their own competing alternative and paying internal prices to launch them, thus gaining an insurmountable competetive edge

>>15393087
God that’s hot

>>15393095
Classic penguinism

>>15393086
Yes ideally you would grow food on the cycler.

>>15393082
she recruited someone else to personify Hakuto?

>>15393111
Probably her mother desu

>>15392752
a friend of mine showed this pic first time I saw it. Didnt say what it was and first thought cool sundown somewhere in the desert. Then I noticed the suns disk is unusually small then what you usually see in the sky

>>15393095
i'm not necessarily talking about sats. if you gave mars missions beyond the first few boots on the ground flag planting exercises say 15-20 years, where numbers of people and infrastructure is going to be needed and it will seem normal for anyone who doesn't even care, then you have limitless potential for being the company that say builds a piece of earth moving equipment, or a more efficient isru plant, or even silly stuff like a "designed for mars rugged torch".
in commercial aviation, shipping or offshore oil the companies that build the planes, ships or rigs are dwarfed by the ancillary companies related to that industry and it seems odd to me that theres so few trying to be first movers.

>>15393112
>her
I don't know how people can seriously think that someone hiding behind an anime avatar with a voice filter could possibly be a woman.

>stream not starting
Nipponbros?
Is it over?

>>15393118
Last I heard they crashed the entire control room

Someone give us a recap, what is the purpose of the ispace Hakuto-r mission? and all that other jazz someone less lazy would include in this Q post

>>15392316
Total water death. Roundhouse kick a concrete into the water.

>>15393122
It is primarily a technology demonstration lander. It is built by ispace, inc., and will carry commercial and government payloads, including two lunar rovers (Rashid and the Japanese Lunar Excursion Vehicle).

Rashid is a United Arab Emirates (UAE) lunar rover. It has a mass of approximately 10 kg. It is planned to operate for one lunar sunrise to sunset (about 14 Earth days) and will be used to study properties of lunar soil, the geology of the Moon, dust movement, and the surface plasma environment. The Japanese Lunar Excursion Vehicle, or Transformable Lunar Robot, is a small 8 cm diameter sphere with a mass of about 0.25 kg that will open into a cylindrical shape, basically an axle with two hemispherical wheels, and carry cameras for surface observations.

>>15393122
landing an arab rover

>>15392379
you will have to pay to see it goy

>>15393041
>union buster
unions are gay
>blocking the guy who tracked his plane
stalking Elon and his kids isn't free speech

who is this minkan? some fren of clear?

>>15393126
The quintessential spaceX intro, I like it
>>15393127
Guh
>>15393123
Kill water, behead water, roundhouse kick a concrete in the water, slam dunk a water baby in the trash can, crusify clean water, defecate in a water pool

>>15393114
It's the same principle though. No one wants to invest big money into developing a Mars-adapted earth mover or other such equipment before (1) it's been demonstrated that Starship can indeed land on Mars and safely unload such equipment, (2) SpaceX has ruled out that they themselves would develop that particular piece of equipment in-house, (3) a business case has been established e.g. Congress indicates serious interest in allocating funds to NASA to have a base on Mars built, or some other source of funding has been established.

>>15392558
>we can just keep making garbage forever with no consequences, right?
>and keep making billions in guaranteed profits, right guys?
>hello?

>>15393100
What does "penguinism" mean in this context?

Live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpR1UUnix3g

>>15393142
Penguins need to swim to get fish, their only source of food
Their only predators are also in that water
They can’t see if it’s safe until they jump in
No one wants to be first in case it isn’t
When one jumps in at last and doesn’t die they all jump in

>>15393151
beat me to it.

Stream started over at ispace

S

>>15393142
>>15393152
I was waiting for someone to ask but someone got in and answered my bait before me, guh
Anyways as the anon said, the first penguin gets the most but is also in the most danger, the second and third also gets something. But anyone after is not guaranteed to get anything

GOOD LUCK JAPAN

>>15393157
Remember when /Sfg/ said it was better than JPL rovers because it used Chinese magic to remove dust from the solar panels? I remember

Dang this looks pretty kino, they already have all these parts ON SITE bros, I don’t think it’s gonna take that long

>>15393139
imo viewing spacex as a kind of secondary nasa that does everything with its own in house developed kit is wrong. i cant think of an example of a broad sectoral development where this has happened before (unless of course mars turns out to be unprofitable and can only survive on state interest/willy waving).

Josef in the house

>>15393160
>>15393157
It can literally actuate its panels so the dust slides off, imagine falling for JPL tier spin.

>>15393157
solarfags btfo

>>15393160
JPL rovers have nuclear power source

>>15393168
well it cant now

>>15393170
How is their delay so bad? I am currently at the Luxemburg greetings section

>BO development constellation

>doing landings
>still no relay like the chinese
Why does NASA suck so much?

>>15393162
There is no way Mars is unprofitable if they offer a framework for living and owning property on Mars. If they set an open auction for the first few thousand private seats to live on Mars and had demonstrated landing and all various attendant living technologies that shit would cover mission costs easily.

>Regardless of outcome its an accomplishment - Arianegroup statement

AHAHAHAHAHA #Spaceenablers Who thought this one up

Normies being introduced to the absolute monotony of non-spaceX livestreams

>English
yay

literal who

OH GOD ITS EVEN WORSE THAN I THOUGHT

CRINGEE

>>15393185
I bet the frenchies fought tooth and nail to get it in French only

>>15393178
Congrats for being launched by SpaceX

I JUST WNAT TO SEE THE TELEMETRY

>>15393190
hahaha

>>15393178
>congrats this cost 100x more than it needed to

wtf
I thought this was supposed to be about the landing, not shilling their company

Finally some yuro _not_ pronouncing it as haKUUUto, was getting tired of that naRUUto saKUUUra bullshit

>land on the real moon, today

Oh my fucking god, what are those presenters - hire a prostitue or something, jesus

They got JP subtitles but we need ENG subtitles for this guy

ANOTHER literal who (ESL edition)

its going to be autonomous, no direct telemetry for 40 minutes

female black american aerospace engineer is a tough gig, only fake european countries will employ you for esg points

>occultation
STILL NO RELAY SINCE APOLLO

GOD I WISH WE HAD LUNAR RELAYS OR SOME SHIT

HERROOOOOO

Hurro!

I WANT BACK TO SPACEX STREAM, TAKE ME BACK, TAKE MEEEE BACKKKKK

>Herroo
>our rander wirr rand on the mon

i cant understand a word anyone is saying

VIEW COUNT DROPPING
>VIEW COUNT DROPPING
VIEW COUNT DROPPING
>VIEW COUNT DROPPING

>>15393215
>I want to suck evrywan for their controbutions

>>15393216
The Rander wir rand on runal sulface

Based gookmoot

>sankyu ando rets rand on the moon!

why is L so difficult for east asians?

Why is the volume of the clip like 20% of the previous volume levels, how did they fuck up this badly bros

JUST GET ON WITH IT

when is landing?

Tell us what's actually happening with the probe already, argh!

>>15393224
I was incapable of pronouncing Rs for a really long time, so I am confused as well - I always thought the R was the difficult one

ywnbji (you will never be john insprucker)

>>15393161
Why don't they just put one of the old starships under launch mount for flame diversion? You can divert flame, take out the trash and make more space all at the same time

>>15393224
I think it's really just Japan. They have an "r" sound that's halfway between English "l" and "r". I see it as kind of like saying R while touching your front teeth.

powar statos

>>15393224
>>15393231
There isn't really an L or R in Japanese, it's this weird middle ground. Kinda like English doesn't really have rolling R's either. Pronouncing the English R feels weird

why have a diverter in the first place? seems kind of dangerous, just contain all the exhaust instead.

DID THEY AT LEAST PUT A LANDING CAMERA ON IT?

It's going to work, I know because I built similar landers in KSP and they all worked.

just woke up. we failed?

>it's entirely scripted
it's all so tedious.

>>15393050
well that is the majority of all haters now but I don't think it was the case previously

Clear has cut down on the corporate BS and is discussing trajectories.

These hakuto-r jacket looks so fucking dumb, could they not get the sponsors printed on instead of weird giant patches?

>>15393242
We are cringing through the stream, it hasnt failed yet - well the stream has, but the lander hasnt

fire the PR marketing director at ispace

nice sim software

>>15393246
I am pretty sure they havent figured out there is a stream/couldnt find it

>>15393237
Japanese also has almost no sense of naked consonants, except for a terminal 'n', basically every syllable has a vowel attached. Sometimes they can suppress the vowel sound, but it's still technically there.

I hope chinese Ispace can do better than this.

>100 days
>to the moon
this is so low energy

ispace should just let clear host the official coverage

>>15393246
does she only speak japanese? how do you understand what she's saying?

>>15393256
Pretty sure I could get there faster by swimming

>>15393252
she has the stream linked in description so I think she is just explaining things until the actual landing starts

>>15393258
They don't but they pretend to, autism and simping is a powerful thing

>>15393261
I see, alright

>>15393030
Salyuts weighed 20 tons too

Yu Shinoda should have hosted this event

>>15393000
you arent collagefag

Are jap bros back over is it over?

It would be nice if they told us the current count. It's going to take over an hour from when it starts. Give us an idea when you are starting it, and how long until it lands.

Doomers will be BTFO. Since japs are honorary aryans, they're not going to fuck this up

i hope a tourist bus lunar starship lands on it in the 2030s

hyped for the blaking buln

Hes using some weird Nippon expression, shingsashen? what the fuck, is a shing-csha-shi

http://moonlander.seb.ly practice while we wait

>>15393283
They destroyed the H3 fucking /pol/ tourist

this is somehow extremely boring

>>15393288
shinkansen, the bullet train

graphics provided by ksp

>>15393292
Cope and seethe, newfag tranny from /lgbt/ Have you never heard of Hayabusa? They punch way above their weight when it comes to probes.

>>15393296
Thanks for providing backup for us non nippon speaking euros

dear God, the sheer autism.

>>15393295
less than a week since ss and we're back to boomerspace

If owari da is “it’s over” then what is “we’re back”?

Why do they keep bringing onboard all these poor nippon bros, they are struggeling so much with expressing themselves, and they just keep bringing in more

damn this dude is incoherent

>>15393087
>her

ah fuck, he butchered it

>>15393302
Watashitachi wa modotte kimashita

>>15393302
Watashitachiha kaette kimashita

getting incel vibes from all of them

>>15393307
Too long, there’s gotta be a shorthand

>>15393157
sleep tight rover

>>15393307
Ah yes just rolls right off the tongue that one

>>15393315
How about we use mushi mushi and just pretend it means were back?

only americans can do exciting space. there i said it.

Eryyday astro just sicced his 1.5M followers on the cringe stream

SCOTT MOON

LOL

>>15393323
There is just 38 000 live viewers right now, at least on the official one - the Japan one might have more

>>15393320
It doesn't matter who it is, whenever you're trying way too hard to be exciting, it ends up being painful for everyone.

>>15393302
mada mada---

>>15393291
Nice! I got a 4x perfect.

Fucking hell, why do we have to introduce every professor and his rat about this fucking mission - just cut out all this bullshit no one gives a shit about except the board

>>15393336
I care, it's interesting

>>15393285
its bureikin barun you retard

>>15393302
MODOTTE DA!

>AI-integrated flight computer
using some machine learning or what?
kind of annoyed by the word, its used so widely
I would say only a small subsection of machine learning or more specifically deep learning is AI

>>15393320
Dont tell me you werent very excited after sitting around for 6 hours to finally see the supersonic Andeøya rocket fly for 4 seconds?

>Saiki san, Tell us who is going to the moon with us?
>OK THANK YOU KEVIN

europeans henceforth banned from space for being so fucking boring

>>15393343
modotte kita (or modotte kimashita)

uh, I take everything back - this katherine chick kind of cute..

Yeah I'm thinking Japan is back

>now-
>YES!
>for a bit of background...

new qt spacefu

>>15393335
I got like 6 landings in a row then came in at and angle on a cliff and died

>>15393348
nigga

>>15393356
super titanium?

I DON'T CARE, PLEASE JUST DO THE LANDING

>>15393360
I like those odds, might make you my Mars pilot

>and now to the launch directors mum

I knew I recognized this lady

>>15393370
Fuck wrong one

>>15393356
Still better than the EU.
Someone please ban us, the french keep surrendering, it's over.

>>15393291
fuck
almost 1000 points

>>15393305
yeah
her

>>15393356
cool, I have a citizen watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyN37-_kC4M

Astra spacetech day lmao

Only telemetry and it wasnt super flashy or anything, I guess now I am just here to hear if it exploded or not and then see some footage (hopeully) tomorrow

It makes me mad when the units are km/h instead of m/s. Do better

>>15393377
it's not the same without the chunky throttle control stick on the actual arcade

>>15393382
the sound is so low, cant hear shit
i wonder if the pin spins

>they put a UAE flag instead of Japanese flag on their moon map

LOL

>>15393382
nigga, starship
cmon man

>>15393390
You're Finnished

>>15393390
Just ignore that, it wont look good to the investors

Why are no specs of the M1 lander anywhere on the internet?
Anyone knows what fuel does it use?

Will we actually see actual footage during the livestream? Cause all I see are a bunch of talking heads

>series one rander
>runar rander
jokes aside, good for the japs.

>>15393397
yeah the wiki page is sad :(

M3 is going to do something for Nasa commercial llunar program

He was the most exciting guy yet.

>>15393398
if it lands they will definitely take a picture of the ground

>>15393401
Are they all the same size?

>>15393162
SpaceX are already integrating vertically downstream with Starlink, and potentially also with Starshield. How can an investor know SpaceX won't do the same to whatever they're investing in?

At least NASA generally often does things through contracts in open tender so you can offer your product to them.

>they don't have a basic ass T-0 countdown graphic fixed on to the screen for situational awareness

amateur hour over here

>Allen key bolts instead of hex head or Torx
CRINGE

Am I supposed to be excited? I dont feel even remotly excited

based scott

>I have a good uhhh... LIFE update for you all

Astra wants to mass manufacture rocket 4 on a factory line, one per day
Starship is too big or something (didnt really hear what he said)

>404
it's ogre
oh wait thats the post count
lmao gottem

fake

>>15393406
I don't think so

100000km/h?? 27km/s??

RANDER HAS IMUGE

OMG, aliens
Big black alien spot

>>15393419
things look weird when you're looking at landscape with no atmosphere.

>>15393298
>Have you never heard of Hayabusa? They punch way above their weight when it comes to probes.
Some Unit 731 torture device?

>>15393382
Wow this is so cool. Like Nintendo Direct but Astra. Astra Direct? almost like E3 but for Astra

>forgets the acronym
>brushes it off with a mumble

>>15393428
Enjoy my friend, this is the rare sight of a company man on his final legs

Shut the fuck up about Astra nobody gives a fuck Hakuto-R landing is 10x as important as the entirety of Astra

Mli is multi layer insulation, lads. Forgive the jap

I just don't see the business case compared to Starship with spacetugs?

>We haves update for you
This is bad

Finally the good stuff

>>15393431
multi layered we didnt orientate the camera properly

>>15393428
Hahahahahaha

You think Astra will ever make a heavy launch vehicle? Small launch isnt going to cut it lol

What the fuck is this cringe

ITS FUCKED

anyone who gets in the way of spaceflight needs to be executed. that's my political opinion and I place it above my inherent racism and antisemitism

>>15393427
The only thing it tortured was my feelings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMmWUad1wY

>>15393440
big lunch wins over small lunch
it's still funny how 2008 falcon 1 still shits all over the smallsat market
imagine nu-falcon 1

JUST KEEP THE TELEMETRY ON SCREEN, FUCK

>>15393354
post pics?

LETS GO ISPACE
3 MINUTES

>>15393446
>>15393446
>>15393446
>>15393446

not dead yet