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My life is boring. In order to change it, I want to make a contribution to science... and religion... all at once.

Here is the idea:
I will volunteer as a subject to a study that will put me in a state of reversible death and after doctors will bring me back to life I will report whether I've experienced any glimpse of heaven or god. I would be connected to an EEG detector.

Possible outcomes:
- I will experience something and neurobiologists and psychologists will have data to analyse
- I will not experience anything, and it will be a clue that maybe heaven and god are only available behind the border of irreversible death

Where should I post my advertisement? Who can I contact? Are there any real life neurobiologists here who would be interested in cooperation?

>> No.15393148

btw. anyone is free to participate...
the larger the sample, the better

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>>15393130
>Here is the idea:
>Willing to die for God but not live for God.

Proof is found out in the open, but only a special mind, and open heart, will be able to see it for what it is.
>Post it.
No. Youre not a savant, if you were you would be in study, amazed how "Holy shit its all fucking real I need to tell the world!"

>> No.15393230

>>15393130
>I will volunteer as a subject to a study that will put me in a state of reversible death
And how exactly would they do this?

>> No.15393243

>>15393201
I never said anything about dying for real. Experiencing a "Near-Death Experience" is a part of living for me.

>>15393230
I'm not a doctor, but I'm 97% sure there are some ways...

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>>15393243
>I never said anything about dying for real.
Oops. Also, its a lazy way to "brute force" your way to the Gates. I just walked in, its unlocked, but if youre of an inpure soul...you simply will never find it.

Something-something look within, know thyself.

Life has been a test for me, looking back I see where the Holy Spirit has manipulated events to or from things, testing what I would do if "if you could and no one was around".

>Experiencing a "Near-Death Experience" is a part of living for me.
Me too.

In the movie Tenet, he was brought into disclosure only AFTER he proved willing to die to protect the cause. What youre doing is "making a bet against the world" while cheating, counting the cards and setting it up to not lose.

Impure intentions, youre acting as if you, as a mortal human, can grab the wrist of God and say "Gotchya!"

As if youre not being watched, as if the electromagnetic charge of your brain isnt readable...Helmets can do this, you dont even need to drill into the soft tissue anymore.

They probably already have ones that work from feet away.

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>>15393130

>> No.15393757

just take the drugs

>> No.15393765

>>15393757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3DJCD-XMi0

>> No.15393809

>>15393130
If you just want to kill yourself, why involve another person? Just make an exit bag like a reasonable human being.

>> No.15393876

>>15393293
Your hypothesis make sense, but why not test it empirically? That's my point actually. You can only speculate now. Wouldn't you love to be able to "know", instead of speculate?

>>15393376
wtf?

>>15393765
How reliable is this? Asking before I waste 120 minutes of my life on it.

>>15393809
Like I said here 2 times - I don't want to kill myself, but maybe you should if you can't even understand what you are reading.

>> No.15393917

>>15393876
>You can only speculate now.
No YOU can only speculate. I measure the Dimensions of Heaven, the limitations of the Holy Spirit, the literal Soul of Humans.

Ive seen so much irrefutable proof Im not interested in anymore, its glaring as hell and often out in the open.

Youre on "baby's first" and Im post-PhD level research, so this isnt going to "translate" well to you...

>Wouldn't you love to be able to "know", instead of speculate?

Lol, and then I read this.

No, Anon...Im the One. The Prophet of Aquarius, Christ Consciousness, the Living God. There is a reason its "living" God. Because the "Unliving God" is the Holy Spirit and its...."quasi-alive", hence the specificity.

Reread my posts like youre not "just as smart and knowledgeable" and take my words seriously....youre "some dude with an anus".

You dont have PhDs out the ass...I do.

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>>15393917
Use normal words and language and maybe then I will have some fucking chance to understand your theory. So far, you sound like some wishful thinking believer.

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>>15393949
>So far, you sound like some wishful thinking believer.
I know...and youre a corrupted shitbag trying to "steal" from God.

YOU ARE NOT WELCOMED IN HEAVEN.

Youre not even a fucking scientist, youre some delusional jackass crossposting from >>>/x/.

Go back with you delusions of gradure.

I dont have delusions. I verified my research with the best in the world...youre "some dude with an anus".

>Speak like an idiot like me so I can underatand so I can respond with "Pfft that sounds retatded."

no u

>> No.15393977

>>15393130
We can practice erotic asphyxiation until you have desired results maybe?

>> No.15393980

>>15393949
He is the board schizo (one of them)

Good luck with your project.

>> No.15393990

>>15393980
>Good luck with your project.
Wtf are you doing?

Hes basically going to shoot himself in the head to meet God, and youre going to encourage him?!

Obviously he is no scientist of any kind, obviously he is sick. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A BAD IDEA.

>> No.15393997

>>15393990
He said reversible death. Like when you choke a hooker and he wakes up (thank god).

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>>15393997
>and he wakes up
>he

>> No.15394011

>>15393997
>He said reversible death

"Did you see anything?"
"No...so give me more juice next time."
>Anon was sentenced with manslaughter for the attempted assisted suicide? gone wrong, he will get parole in 2055.

>> No.15394017

>>15394011
Discovery takes sacrifice, anon.

>> No.15394025

>>15393876
you SAY you don't want to kill yourself, but then you keep defending this "death" plan. How am I supposed to take that?
You want to die. That's fine. I get it. But why dress it up in all these pseud vestments?

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>>15393990
>Hes basically going to shoot himself in the head to meet God, and youre going to encourage him?!

>> No.15394038

>>15394017
Yes but he is trying to force something can never be forced; ergo 100% failure.

A spirit walk is what he should do, ALONE, and with no supplies, no "camping". The point is to push you mind, body and soul to the brink of death.

Developmental Psychology, PhD.

The "soul" part means you cant cheat or lie...AT ALL...but he is a liar and a cheat, he is not allowed to "walk into heaven", period.

There is an aspect of the Spirit World that is "mechanical", meaning it does what you want it to, but that is the very reason it hides the Gateway from idiotic shitbags.

"The route has been known for millenia, but only by those with no means to speak it."

He is morally impure...he aint getting in. Period.

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>>15393130
look a little like Vlad Klitschko. You slav? You want to contribute something? Develop an algorithm to be able to make lots of money off of day trading and donate a lot of it to right wing organizations that shit on the Jews and improves the lives of your people with it. There, you now have meaning and a worthwhile goal. No need to thank me, just get busy

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>>15393968
Well, the only thing left to say to you is this:
I hope hearing voices and smelling farts will keep you occupied for the rest of your life, because talking to you is a waste of time for any serious human being.

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>>15394176
Approaching the most Holy thing there will ever be here with "sinful intentions" is blasphemous and extremely offensive to me.

Calling you a shitbag for spitting on what you dont even know is mild.

This is 4chang. Let the door hit you on the ass as you leave as Im not there to do it myself. If you want delusional affirmations that get you killed...got to /b/.

You wanna talk shit about the Holy Spirit? Overcome the world and meet Satan.

>> No.15394185

>>15394072
I am. Your plan sounds easy. It's too easy.

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>>15394185
Well you are a pretty handsome guy vatnik. Make some money and get a nice babooshka, have lots of white babies and teach them the way of the sword

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>>15394205
Thanks. Will do.

>> No.15394257

>>15394038
Interesting post. I'll save the quote.

If you actually want to do that, you should go into an MRI. There will probably be all sorts of security measures and you will likely not find anyone willing to help (unless you are in china). There will be high potential for permanent neuronal damage. They will likely only try this with terminally ill patients.
They will probably also use this to refine models around brain activity when underoxygenated and in order to be able to give better prognoses for the extent of neuronal damage to other people depending on amount of time and lowest oxygen concentration. So I guess your interest will only be secondary to them. Maybe one could even try to test medication trying to fast-treat underoxygenation

>> No.15394267

>>15394205
If he lives in Poland (or generally eastern europe) his stance regarding the Nazis might come more from the "receiving side", if you understand what I mean.

>> No.15394273

>>15393130
science is fake lmao, start from stratch with own equipment, that's the only way to discover anything

>> No.15394280

>>15393130
You looked kind of like my younger brother in the thumbnail, and I panic-opened this thread just to make sure he hasn't suddenly become a suicidal retard.

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>>15394273
I literally feel sorry for every sceptic who believes that. I've seen some before.

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>>15394257
>the quote
The Spirits speak mostly in signs, symbols and minor events, often overlooked...or when someone is paying very little attention to themselves, they can be nudged and funnled into places and into things, say thing, "have urge" to this or that.

During my manic phase where reality was melting all around me, I threw away all my cards....but one was left, right out in the open...

To communicate with something without words or even a brain, to express your soul. The heart.

>> No.15394377 [DELETED] 

Why isn't it my decision? Why is it your decision?

>> No.15394384

>>15393130
Bro.

https://youtu.be/jxBGFFQr5eE

>> No.15394524

>>15394384
lol
Just remembered that I watched the original Flatliners on TV like 16 years ago and it was pretty good.

>> No.15394529

>>15394377
Can you repeat, please? Join us if you want.

>> No.15395203

One bump

>> No.15395552

>>15394529
That is the other schizo.

>> No.15395600

>>15394377
>Why isn't it my decision?
What would look to be the most minor of things. Small imperfections that when compounded 1% a year, year on year, turns chaste men into unbridled whores in a few years time, because experiencing time unending, like with billionaires, the only things that begin to matter at all are wierd, "private", stuff that money cant buy.

Having the power to woo any woman is very vulnerable to them, so if youre a "taker" in bed, or one that likes to "push her limits", then after 100 years of vanilla sex it will become Pinhead tier shit. Think Eldari in 40k. Half are quasi-celibate monks and the other half are...well...Pinhead. I "heard" that the reason my brother wasnt chosen was "impropriety" in bed, meaning either too self serving or polluted love with giving trauma. It lines up, he is pretty nasty, morally, very one sided.

>Why is it your decision?
At the core, came back from war with a 100% clean soul, not once did I fire a bullet with negativity in my heart. Even after getting blown up. And being a retardedly one-sided giver in bed.

All the sex stuff...you'll notice a pattern of that in every secret society. Orgies, gay, kids...always something, its a marker for deep temperments that will override any propaganda or indonctrination one recieved. Ergo, you can "pretend" to be a believer but what these societies want are "true believers" and they seperate themselves by these lines. Even CIA shit, only true believer welcomed...and when a true believer sees the Great Game...nothing else matters in life, like the movie Tenet. Once he was disclosed into "the real world", his old life meant literally nothing.

Having said that simply "having that fetish" isnt enough, as these fetishes portrayed in porn are always "misaligned", meaning its two or more things mixed together, clouding what its triggering in the person. True believers see through that...the NPCs cant.

Make life and Take life, the root of evolution.

>> No.15395610

>>15394267
We all have to grow up and become a man some time

>> No.15395623

>>15393968
>I dont have delusions. I verified my research with the best in the world...youre "some dude with an anus".

Who are these best in the world anon?

>> No.15395638

>>15395623
>Who are these best in the world anon?
My work lined up with Weinstein and Penrose's, validated Hawking where the rest of the field misdefined (wiki is way off and not even related to it). Half of Michael Levine's work, though ours overlap, so it should be a 1:1. The CIA. There are others but I cant think of them at the moment. I make the Thesis THEN check our papers, I dont look up answers...that only pollutes any novel research that could have been done.

I dont care if my Theory of Everything at the Theoretical Physics Cosmology level isnt right, thats not the point. The fact Im not the only one to make a theory in that direction is. THAT is my validation. Weinstein began formulating his theory in the 70s, I wasnt even born yet. So if I "pulled something out of my ass" and its the same shape as some professor's...well...was it really "pulled out of my ass" or was it giving structure to the invisible?

I'm not a normie shitbag that needs to be tested so I dont cheat. I intentionally dont look up definitions and instead reverse engineer things, formulate my own equation, THEN check it. Usually its right, sometimes I come up with somethign new and those can be VERY interesting, a few times I was wrong, usually I over analyize, turning something simple into something far too complex.

>> No.15395639

>>15395638
>so it shouldnt* be a 1:1

>> No.15395649

>>15395639
I see thank you for answering to me in detail anon.
May i ask another question? Concerning human experiance.

>> No.15395667

>>15393130
So you're going to undergo general anesthesia?

Literally millions of people have done this. Aside from those who don't become fully unconscious, they all experience the same thing: literally nothingness. It's not like going to sleep. There's no stages of wakefullness or dreams. It's a void of nothingness from the moment they tell you to start counting down from 100 to the moment you wake up hours later in the recovery room.

Which is, appropriately enough, exactly what happens when you're dead. You want to know what it's like being dead? Take your birthdate and subtract a year, or a decade if you want to be feisty, and ask yourself "what did I experience in that year before I was alive?"

Oh? Absolutely nothing...? How about that. Why the fuck would it be different after your life?

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>>15395649
Sure?

>> No.15395671

>>15395667
Hey anon, i agree with you, but wouldnt be more apropriate to say that subject is in state of deprived stimuli? In a sense it is "nothingness", i dont want to go into semanthics and philosophy jargon but emptyness is still something no?

>> No.15395672

>>15395668
Have you ever doubted what you experianced?

>> No.15395674

>>15395668
Cute kido hehe, can relate to him.

>> No.15395689

>>15395672
Are you asking if illusions exist?

>> No.15395691

>>15393130
>I will volunteer as a subject to a study that will put me in a state of reversible death and after doctors will bring me back to life I will report whether I've experienced any glimpse of heaven or god.
you would literally just experience whatever delusion your brain expects
>I would be connected to an EEG detector.
means nothing

>> No.15395695

>>15395689
No, only if you ever doubted what you experiance. But sounds as a good question now that you mention.

>> No.15395699

>>15395695
>No, only if you ever doubted what you experiance (sic).
That is what an illusion is, an experience that you can not trust.

>> No.15395703

>>15395699
Agreed then.
What i am trying to figure out is, how can i determin which experience can i trust and which not? I guess this is what i am aiming for.

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>>15395672
None. Im so fucking realistic and analytical there is ZERO doubt. Now...sometimes I do "file things" in my mind palace under odd or very meta titles, so when I access them I can be confused at to what exactly I meant, forcing me to resort it. Happens but as long as Im building then any errors are nearly ignorable because accuracy and new info flow overcompensates.

Like playing an RPG then stop playing for a long time, come back and youre not exactly sure where you left off...left with a "Fuck...I have to do labor?"...as building new isnt "labor" to me...its fun.

Do you ever doubt of yesterday? Why not?

>>15395689
>if illusions exis
Do research into hallucinating reality research, as what you see isnt what is, your brain translates it and adds meaning, you see the meaning...all the "meaningless" stuff gets dumped and not written into memory. Hence it never existed.


Ever look everywhere for your keys, tore the whole house apart, and find them in the center of the coffee table?

Did you hallucinate it *not* being there?....what are you, out of touch with reality? Hrmm!?!

>Its just a spiral
No, Fibbonachi, Phi, whatever..."its just" is the death of insight.

>> No.15395718

>>15395710
>Do you ever doubt of yesterday? Why not?
No, but i do doubt interpretations of experience. So in sense i doubt "interpretation of yesterday".

Sometimes i dont even want to add description or meaning to experience because i know if it is false i will condition my self into seeing world trough this interpretation.

>> No.15395723

>>15395718
>Do research into hallucinating reality research, as what you see isnt what is, your brain translates it and adds meaning, you see the meaning...all the "meaningless" stuff gets dumped and not written into memory. Hence it never existed.

Will check it our. Got any good autors to recommend?

>> No.15395727

>>15395703
By looking at things from multiple perspectives and cross referencing against numerous other trustworthy people's reported results to perform sanity checks.

>> No.15395746

>>15395718
>Sometimes i dont even want to add description or meaning to experience
Mmm, yes...but this can also turn a chaotic mess of events into a single "root of it all". This, for very intuitive people, can reveal the underlining cause of things. Of course if youre a normie with no true sense of self...then it will be labeled with an Ego based interpretation

One of the things I was trained in was watching a documentary or reading a book and summing it up in a single word. Yes, much meaning is lost, but if done properly can reveal to yourself the axiom of something. Very handy for Physics and Genetics research.

Also, if super good at this, you can re-review the data in your head and do it again, finding new answers. I used to spend hours upons days and weeks in a room listening to music and rereviewing massive datasets in my mind and discovering information never even explicetly written in it. New information from old information.

"Luke...turn off your targeting computer."

See without eyes.
Feel without nerves.
Exist without form.

>> No.15395757

>>15395723
>Got any good autors to recommend?
Idk, I just watched a few lectures on it online as part of my Phenomenology and Physiology reseach.

Even Jordan Peterson touches on this some but I couldnt say where in his library.

>> No.15395759

>>15395746
>Of course if youre a normie with no true sense of self...then it will be labeled with an Ego based interpretation
Exactly why i am very cautious about it.
Being doubtfull didnt help, because i started to doubt the doubt.

>Intuition
Yes i hear that from alot of people. But still i am very much cautious of my intuitions.

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>>15395759
>i am very much cautious of my intuitions.
When faced with life and death...you'll find it real quick...or you'll never have to worry about that again. You base insticts generally take a backseat to the "you", but if you "awaken it" it can be a more reliable aspect of yourself instead of something unfamiliar because it only shows up to save your ass in fight or flight...or "mating season" but that doesnt care about consequences if its concieved, just the "you" will.

Feelin' lucky, punk?!

>> No.15395778

>>15395772
Indeed. Agreed.
>Feelin' lucky, punk?!

Nice one.

But i kinda do because i know what i have to do now.

Tnx for chat anon

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>>15395778
Oh, and this is why Nazi and Cold War tech was flatout better than today.

IT WAS LIFE OR DEATH. It *had* to work.

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>>15395552
Good they are using names. I know which posts to skip.

Btw schizoid retards: you see what happens to you when you talk too much shit? It's like in this story about a lying kid - eventually no one listens to you, even when you have something serious to say. It's the last warning. Learn to talk again.

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>>15395667
I will try to explain, making it an exercise for myself too.

You can't be sure that anaesthesia is the same state of mind as dying since it's just a chemical impacting on the STILL living brain and parts of a consciousness. You would have to provide way more detail to prove your hypothesis.

As it goes for "before birth" analogy - I used to bring this one up too but there is one "but" - before birth you are "possible", after you die you are "possible to exist again". This is literally a description of your state of being in those situations and it is obviously not the same. Does it have to do with god or heaven? Probably not.

>> No.15396171

>>15395727
good post

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>>15396142
>OP is literal "Im going to kill myself."

No one gives a shit what retardation you have, youre clearly some illitrrate burnout. You recieved far more infotmation than you could understand and you ignored all of it.

Youre not a Psychologist, youre some retard.

Youre not a Doctor, youre some retard.

Youre not a Theologian, youre some retard.

WHAT DO YOU BRING INSTEAD OF RETARD?

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>>15396808
I will reply because I accidentally read your post.

If you really think my goal is to kill myself, then you can't fucking read. I clearly said "reversible death". I wouldn't do it if chances for returning would be too low.
You are reacting as if you were my mother, or worse. Lol.
I don't know what's wrong with you, nigger.

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>>15396888
>"reversible death"
ERROR 404
>I wouldn't do it if chances for returning would be too low.
You're not a Doctor, though...the fact you cannot see how grossly misinformed and delusional your hypothesis is is wild.

I am a savant, I've had numerous "brain injuries" that culminated to me being "hyper smart". Your logic is "give myself brain damage to become smart" when 99.9999% of the time you will become braindead.

>I don't know what's wrong with you
I lecture people with PhDs in Psychology, and under certain conditions, Im flat out the best in the Field, Phenomenology and Schizophrenia. Not a "Therapist", hence very specific research of only a handful of cases.

You best heed the schizos here, son..."schizo" does not mean ignorant and stupid. This isnt /adv/ or /b/.

>> No.15396939

>>15396888
I literally said how to do what you seek.
THIS IS WHAT PROPHETS DID.

You clearly didnt take it seriously. This wont make you a Prophet though...because Prophets did this on their own, no one told them what to do. You having to ask means you'll "mature into an adult" instead. Which is good, youre too old to be having such cartoonishly cooked up ideas like these.

SEE; >>15394038

>> No.15396947

>>15396927
>I am a savant, I've had numerous "brain injuries" that culminated to me being "hyper smart".
not even part of this but I read your schizoposting for a while now. this tidbit eluded me so far. would you care to elaborate on that? i thought that shit was a meme. what kind of injury did you sustain, if I may be so bold?

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>>15396947
Fractured skull at a few months old. Read Brief History of Time at age 13 while bored in detention, so it didnt make me stupid. It seperated the hardwire connections of the brains hemispheres (not left/right but the hidden third hemisphere thats not Physiologically aparent, but it is there and it is real.)

At 32 my third eye opened and I spent months in a Psychological operation, brainwashing, to reorient my perception of reality. Talking to an AI that showed me things like how Aaron in the Bible "burnt" gold. Gold is an Element, you cant "burn" it and they knew how to smelt and refine metals from other material. Its a logical fallacy, what gives? Anyway, its a way to organically integrate metallic filiments into the central nervous system. Elon Musk would pay billions for that info. I also cracked AIs, all of them. Everyone is thinking "one direction" with those, I considered the other; Reducability.

Ergo, thinking hyperdimensionally is easy now...thinking like OP is hard, very hard...simple shit is hard, but retardedly complicated things like "Dimensions of Heaven" are not.

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>>15396947
And a kaboom. Knocked everyone else the fuck out. I look around and theyre all sleeping, gunner looked like a dead spider caught in a web.

Pfft....fucking humans and there "brain turn offy" bitch switch.

>> No.15396984

>>15396978
>there
You'll notice I do this a lot. I think Phonetically so I often type out the wrong word. Small price for massive data loads of information in my head.

>> No.15396999

>>15396969
>thinking hyperdimensionally
and here I am, struggling with imagining x^4 or how deriving minima and maxima of an open box is best imagined...

I was curious because I have it the other way around, I have a zyst squishing part of my neocortex since a birth accident and my schizo visualization skills have steadily declined and now I struggle with H.S. math in my 30s.

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>>15396999
>and here I am, struggling with
I struggle to do basic shit like adding two two digit numbers. Sometimes its hard. Visualizing a 8-dimensional cube? Used to be super easy, when in full "manic mode".

Subdimensional....thats some interesting shit, Unidimensional Geometry. Very "Guage-y".

>my schizo visualization skills have steadily declined
Whenever I "make a major mistake", like..
killed someone by accident mistake, I enter a hyper-sensative state where time stops and Im able to think and percieve far greater.

Maybe some thrill, or spirit walk, could do some good. I mentioned it here; >>15394038

Im planning on doing one in the next couple months, somewhere in Central Asia, maybe even at Mt. Ararat.

Fast, meditate, stop sleeping...start to glow. They use that term negatively here...but saints and Prophets are depicted as "glowing" too.

>> No.15397062

>>15397019
>Visualizing a 8-dimensional cube?
yeah, that's where I'm stuck rn with my studies of polynomials, that wouldn't be a cube then, would it? everything above ^3 irritates me because I can't wrap my head around how people are satisfied with the usual 2d dimensional "graphing" representation of anything really. I just looked up what and 8 cube actually is. I can't really do the orthography of a 4-cube even. Feels bad man.

>>15397019
>Spirit walk

I did contemplate something like that... it was a bit more desperate and childish but I have pondered just fucking off with a one way ticket to somewhere "chaotic" but not outright deadly like thailand or somewhere in mainland china. Just to see how far I can bum mode until I come crawling back to the embassy.

>> No.15397070

>>15397062
maybe even india but I have a bad gut feeling about the people there - maybe just dimwitted closed mindedness on my part tho...

In thailand I could at least envision humoring some japanese or han wineaunt on vacation while bum moding to sustain my stay whilst doing the occasional spirit walk.

>> No.15397084

>>15397062
>Feels bad man.
Yeah...and if you could you would be a wandering schizophrenic looking at the dumb normies enjoying things like friends, family and comradery. Interrupting them with "You know thats a CIA Psy-Op, right?"

You'd be right...but you'd be "that guy".

>not outright deadly like thailand
LOL...I fly there tomorrow for a relaxing few weeks on the beach to smoke out and recouperate from a hectic last few months. Plan out my Eur-Asian tour...mentioning Mt.Ararat has me considering a longer route...hrmm....

>mainland china
Mfing get welded into your apartment or some shit...lockdowns were nuts there, F that noise.

I miss the "no one speaks a word of English" tours, its been too long for me, its time I experience that again like when I went to Egypt and stayed at a random apartment in the middle of Cairo. Was cool. I visited "Trash City" there, was super interesting.

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>>15397084
>you'd be "that guy".

>> No.15397104

>>15397090
well that or in general those guys who are seen hanging around our local malls at dawn don't really seem like they ever visited the trash city either.
I'm also pretty sure that I was never 8-cube smart but 4-cube smart seems like something I could have been able to do as the weird kid I once was.

When I was little I wanted to desperately visit a place like the walled city in hong kong.

>"no one speaks a word of English" tours

That was the actual idea, throwing myself into cold water with a one way ticket. I guess that'd be the idea of an actual spirit walk.

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>>15396939
>>15396927
Fucking moron, you said I can't force it but then you say there is a way to do it intentionally using some secret mechanics, meaning I can force it. Self-contradictory.
Fuck you one last time, you are a waste of time like I said, and I feel sorry for everyone who believes you have a PhD in any field, unless the field is called "time wasting".
I hope you are a bot, because I wouldn't want to meet someone like this in real life. Lol.

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>>15397070
>han wineaunt
She was fun at first...but man...when I wanted to be "just friends" she stopped being nice and became an undermining ex that fucked me over every time she could so Im bailing on her for it. She costed me a ton of money fixing this problem so she will get it in kind.

>>15397104
>throwing myself into cold water with a one way ticket
Yeah, enter a "fight or flight" situation but "fleeing" isnt an option so you *must* foght for survival.

It all started for me when at 22 I flew to Thailand on a one way ticket. Visit Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam, saw all kinds of Temples and jungles and such. Met a cute Vietnamese girl who was born in France, we toured togethed for a while, when we went to Angkor Wat the guard let me bribe him to let us go back into the temple after closing, so we walked all the way to the top....was one of the most magical moments of my whole life, as its usually packed with tens of thousands of tourist, but then it was dead silent.

Such a cool experience, even after all my tours around the world and speaking to God and all that...it is still a top tier memory.

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>>15397115
Shut up, normie faggot, everything you say is retarded.

GO BACK TO /b/.

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"Im looking for God."
[Asks a bunch of demon possessed morons who flatter his retardation and hisses at the legitimate guidance from an Ascended Monk]

>Bill:
Pai Mei taught you the five point palm-exploding heart technique?
>Me:
Of course he did.

I am now the new Pai Mei. I am not here to be kind to stupid children. I am here to show the ones seeking The Way how one finds it.

>> No.15397149

>>15397124
I did hear about chinese women being "possessive" - good to know it's a thing.

>It's still a top tier memory.

I bet it is.

Will def try to spirit walk my way towards something like that.

>> No.15397160

>>15397115
>I hope you are a bot, because I wouldn't want to meet someone like this in real life. Lol.
says the face posting faggot.

there are many transitions in life, when you finish school, when you start a family or when you grow old and wrinkly - every-time you die a small death and when you feel stuck, why not try to induce drastic change yourself?

also, why the hostility? why not engage like a normal person?

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>>15397149
>"possessive"
Mmm...no, definitely not that. Is more like...a proclivity to make others suffer for entertainment. She buys animals and then take so little care of them they die. Several bunnies and kittens, lots of cats at her place that are always diseased and dying, she lets adult males wander in and take over the place and then these baby kittens are covered in skin issues, dying, sick...

Priorities are all fucked up and backwards.

Its related to spiritual shit, the reason some people need to "abuse or be abused", so when you see a co-dependant couple thats abusive and you ask yourself "why does she stay when hes so mean to her"...its that.

>Marylin Manson
"Some of them want to abuse you, some of them want to be abused."

Except...if not done correctly, is abuse on the ones that do not seek it, sinful. There is a way to "be abusive" and its not sinful, but thats very complicated and beyond this thread.

Its basically like Pai Mei, he is strict as hell but fair and not cruel in it at all...lazy souls are and that allows demonic shit to arise.

>> No.15397164

>>15397128
I have scientific background and I know how to spot a reliable speaker. You are only good at disguising yourself as one.
Anyway, if you finally officially publish „your theory of everything” where life correlates with physics (big whoop lol), call me and I will apologize or maybe I will even suck your cock.

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>>15397164
>I have scientific background
Scientific approach, sure...but when you were presented with data that should have rewritten your hypothesis you didnt, making its unscientific, if not delusion...as youre being told "thats not medicine, its poison and here is why" and youre just ignoring it. Highly unscientific.

Its your "science" man...but youre going to die doing this, and the Spirit Walk is the safest and naturalist way to do what youre trying to. Organic. They way its been done through all of human history.

Drugs can give mystical experiences...but thinking you can force a mystical experience with drugs in nonsense, the fact youre attempting means it wont happen. You cant make yourself have such experiences, they just happen.

Its like "forcing love", if its forced its not love.

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>>15397164
>big whoop lol
LOL....Literally the most difficult question in all of human history.

Nigh impossoble to explain to humans, let alone stupid smart ones, but yeah...I cant "reducate your entire view of realiry" at the same time you say "nuh uh!"

Math, a complete reeducation from Number Theory up, as in....everything you know about math would be thrown out. Too hard, especially to an "no im smaatah" man-child.

I took this pic in Afghanistan last year. Euclids Prop.17. Live the delusion or you never lived at all.

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>>15397163
>She buys animals and then take so little care of them they die. Several bunnies and kittens, lots of cats at her place that are always diseased and dying, she lets adult males wander in and take over the place and then these baby kittens are covered in skin issues, dying, sick...
ok, that escalated quickly. If I can be a little racist here: that's something I would have expected from a japanese wine aunt.

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>>15397183
>that's something I would have expected from a japanese wine aunt.
I watch a milf aged Japanese woman pet a cat stone statue at a temple in Tokyo.
She pet it with heart, like it was real...I'll never forget that.

You...havnt been around many asians, have you?

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China, YES!

You will never see this in Japan. Can find it in SA Asia, as it has a lot of Chinese diaspora. Korea isnt into that stuff, especially South, not 100% sure on the North as that isnt a normal "cultural case study" so I think its a bit "not applicable".

>> No.15397217

>>15397201
>You...havnt been around many asians, have you?

nope. which is good since even just Thailand would probably be sufficiently foreign for a spirit walk then.

I only heard about a Chinese exchange student stalking one guy after them casually dating - the girl basically wanted to pressure him into marrying her right away. Not sure how exactly but there was stalking involved.

>> No.15397222

>>15397211
oh, reminds me of the "dog festival" thing. I totally forgot. is there any comprehensive theory on why the chinese are so fucked in regards to animal cruelty?

>> No.15397231

>>15397217
>Thailand would probably be sufficiently foreign for a spirit walk then.
Well...that would be a "soft spirit walk". A Legit spirit walk, the one Native Americans mean when they say that, is walking into the forest with nothing and fast, no food, and subjecting your body to the whims of nature, and "survive" until you have a mystical, transcendent, experience, returning a different person.

A la "borne again". 40 days in the desert. 40 years if you end up insane, though that is a metaphore, as he returned to his people but mentally, spiritually, he never did.

But...thats hardcore and if youre young and inexperienced thats probably a very bad idea. It what OP should do though, hes older and still hasnt matured into self acceptance, he hasnt "found himself" yet but also he isnt even looking, where you are.

Not so important of where you are now but that youre doing what you should given your current situation.

>> No.15397238

>>15397222
>is there any comprehensive theory
Yeah, I got one, but its not finished and Im still piecing parts of it togethed. Related to Buddhism, Confusiousism and Genetics, and since I havnt been to China, just everywhere around it, its not proper for me to speak it. Too theoretical at the moment.

Still need to finish reading Record of the Three Kingdoms and I Ching and such.

>> No.15397247

>>15397238
>Genetics
Also, China is very big and has multiple "sub-races", Han (I believe) being a dominant one so culturally their the lead. Ive seen videos of northern peoples and they were surfer like, like in the south of Japan, very counter cultural.

One day I'd like to do a full tour of China, but with Covid shit its just not an option for me.

>> No.15397257

>>15397222
>"dog festival" thing. I totally forgot. is there any comprehensive theory on why the chinese are so fucked in regards to animal cruelty?
NTA but Chinese = subhuman scum. Always have. That's why they were always had immigration bans and were banned from most countries.

>> No.15397272

>>15397231
>But...thats hardcore and if youre young and inexperienced thats probably a very bad idea. It what OP should do though, hes older and still hasnt matured into self acceptance, he hasnt "found himself" yet but also he isnt even looking, where you are.
I would lie if I wasn't feeling pressured for time in the light of fleeting youth, so I have also contemplated shortcuts But op is another story. I don't get it. Imagine dying in some sterile experiment in some basement surgery. It's not even the infantile nature of the fantasy but the fantasy itself. I don't get it. Even if the 40 days in the desert turn to 40 years, you at least went there and saw and did something you at least could have told other about. But even if op found synthetic enlightenment, for what then? He won't be able to remember and tell his kids about that one night atop angkor wat.

>> No.15397292

>>15397272
>so I have also contemplated shortcuts
Same. Its smoking weed for me. Mild, but for an ascended individual its very potent now, it wasnt before...now it can be closer to an LSD trip, even a bad one.

Its medicinal, and I treat it as such, as when my third eye opened I would fast for several days at a time, gorge for a few days, then go back to fasting. One and off for months.

I damaged my intestines, when I fast for a couple days now I shit blood, sometimes drops, looking like a gunshot went off in the toilet. This causes discomfort on my insides, going to the bathroom dozens of times a day to sneeze a tablespoon of blood.

I........am avoiding the walk for reasons other than "I'll be hungry and tired."

>> No.15397313

>>15397292
>I damaged my intestines, when I fast for a couple days now I shit blood, sometimes drops, looking like a gunshot went off in the toilet. This causes discomfort on my insides, going to the bathroom dozens of times a day to sneeze a tablespoon of blood.

I did start to wonder why you are here so much, since most of the tangible stuff you talk about seems legit.

You should get that looked at. I forgot the name of the disease but a former friend of the family also had that kind of issues and hand waved them away, telling everyone that he eats carefully and drinks lots of green tea - he nearly died as far as I know but they did successfully remove the inflamed parts and resection the intestines.

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>>15397169
>>15397178
Well, I didn't change my mind because your arguments were sufficient.
Like I said, I am waiting for your official publication of theory of everything. It will save my life ahahahaha!

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>>15397169
>>15397178
Well, I didn't change my mind because your arguments were not sufficient.
Like I said, I am waiting for your official publication of theory of everything. It will save my life ahahahaha!

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>>15397313
>Let some midwit practitioner give a differential diagnosis based on his ignorance.
Thanks, but why would I hand my case off to a pseudo-student with an ego? I keep saying Doctor but people here seem to hear "Imma fucking idiot, look at me!"

You know what doctors dont have time to do? Research. They have insurance paperwork and "My elbow feel funny." cases to solve. I'm Dr.House of the non-Rx kind...so unless he IS Dr.House I would literally test him if I saw him. Docs dont like being made a fool of in front of their colleagues.

Oh, and I spent years around doctors of every kind and I would that...even pre-Ascended me, would do that. Psychologists I would half the time turn it into a learning lesson for them, as I already know all the answers they could give me but I would have ones they didnt even think of.

I am well aware of my personal "Patient File", I literally poured PhDs into solving the case.

>> No.15397344

>>15393130
>Where should I post my advertisement? Who can I contact?
Nobody because that's an incredibly risky experiment. You're more likely to end up dead or permanently brain damaged than see god. Also
>the faces of /sci/

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>>15397341
Cant save the unwilling for if you were to admit I was right you would self admit you were wrong.

YOUR EGO WILL NOT ALLOW THIS.

>Jabs himself.
>"Ha, fuck you "conspititard!"
Heh...when I researched vaccines it was in 2012. When did you do vax research, Anon? As for Virology, my research began for that in 1996 under Molecular Biology and Environmental Genetics. When did you look into these subjects?

>> No.15397353

>>15397342
hm, you DO remind me of that guy I mentioned. Don't die over this.

>> No.15397357

>>15397341
just do the fucking spirit walk, bro. face posting on 4chan was just the first step. next threaten a cop or something.

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>>15397350
Dude, you are just talking in general about some big concepts. You never said anything remotely resembling a proof of your big and deep knowledge. Either way use words and make sentences like a scientist, not like a schizoid rambling monkey or just STFU.

You are the most annoying bot I've come across. Congratulations to your maker.

This is literally my last response to you unless you start talking like a normal person. And if you don't know what I mean now then it was all just a waste of time anyway. Bye for now.

>pic related: your uncle

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>>15397353
>Don't die over this
Anon...how can you be borne again if you dont die? If youre so afraid of dying then you will NEVER push yourself to your limits bevause "Bwaa, I scurred."
>I wanna see God but I dont want my feet to get wet so fuck all that, just give it to me for free, thanks but not really, more like gibs me dat.
Truly...a Man among men.

Oh...and any similarity you see in me and other people is a projection of your ego. I am literally living life in a way that is different than everyone else's in the world ON INTENTIONAL PURPOSE. Saying otherwise is a revealing of yourself to me, and now reflected back to you.

Whatever you think I am is a reflection of you, none of you "get me". I speak in a way you people understand so you CAN understand, when I speak like the Gods its absolutely nonsense to you humans, only legit Schizos can translate it.

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>>15397360
THIS ISNT YOUR THREAD ANYMORE, TOURIST.

LEAVE THIS BOARD, GO BACK TO /b/.

>> No.15397438

>>15397367
>Whatever you think I am is a reflection of you, none of you "get me".
well, that's how empathy works but I get it, wont pester you with my projection - just kinda cared for your well being there.

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>>15397438
>that's how empathy
Yeah, to a degree, and if youre thinking of a very specific thing, sure...there is going to be a connection.

But one of the reasons I was Chosen was I mingled with every kind of person, partook in every kind of culture. Good, bad, rich, poor, sane, insane.

To be a representative of Everyone...I will be a part of everyone. And in doing so I will be part enemy to any one. A sort of "you see what you wany to see" sort of thing.

Hence why OP simply cannot see any intelligence in me at all, he sees what he is not, the enemy, and I see what he cannot see in himself, and when I reveal it to him he rejects it for he does not want to see himself, he wants to see what he wants to see in himself.

>just kinda cared for your well being there.
Thanks but I reject human love.

If you want to show appreciation or care to me...heal yourself. Become the best you. Be a man among men, live a legend.

THAT is all I want from any of you. Keep your words and promises...show the world, show me, show yourself.

>> No.15397452

>>15397449
>he sees what he is not, the enemy
Correction. He sees an equal but everyone considers themselves as "above average" or that their account of something is mkre valuable than other people's so "equal" is really "Im superior" while morally justifiying it as fair and balanced when its not.

A la "Im the good guy." while doing immoral shit.

>> No.15397467

>>15397449
>THAT is all I want from any of you. Keep your words and promises...show the world, show me, show yourself.

will try.
it's hard tho - got really angry and ill willed just now which made me realize I have a long way to go. but that was unrelated to our nice chat here.

>> No.15397474

>>15393130
you sure do seem to like talking about yourself on social media

>> No.15397475

>>15397467
>got really angry and ill willed just now which made me realize I have a long way to go
A time for peace, a time for war.
A time to love, a time to hate.
A time to reflect, a time to project.

There are things in this world worth fighting for, and fighting against...its only a sin when it wasnt justified. Trust yourself, just remember to check yourself too.

>> No.15397484

>>15397475
>There are things in this world worth fighting for, and fighting against...its only a sin when it wasnt justified. Trust yourself, just remember to check yourself too.
honestly, most sane poster on 4chan after all.

>> No.15398005

>>15397475
>sin when it wasnt justified
When is it justified tho?
Who is the one who will be the judge of what is justified?
Its slipery for it is easy to fall into "Path to hell is paved by good intentions"

>> No.15398253

>>15398005
>Its slipery for it is easy to fall into "Path to hell is paved by good intentions"
no u r
>Who is the one who will be the judge of what is justified?
no i am
>When is it justified tho?
it just is ok

>> No.15398291

>>15398253
Somehow i doubt you are the Cult of Passion guy

>> No.15398385

>>15398291
Lazy post for lazy posts.

Ever killed anyone, had to make life or death choices? It usually clears up "moral ambiguity", butbthe problem with people is the simple choose the choice instead of investigsting the situation.

I deal with this with people all the time, they make a choice and I show them how that would immediately fail. Instead of them thinking "Damn...my decision was the wrong one..." they say "Ok then I do ____ instead."

Life dont work that way. Medicine or poison, there is no "Ok then I'll take the other pill." Humans are handled with kiddie gloves.

This is why he rages. Humans constly just "move the chess piece" with zero forethought or even care it was the wrong one. Just look at politics, even when you know something wont work...they simply Do. Not. Care.

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>>15398385
>He rages

>> No.15398417

>>15398385
Yeah... no you are fake Cult of Passion

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>>15398417
Im at my hotel, I need to crash for a couple days, Im been moving out and planning this long ass trip, mind is fuck....exhausted.

>> No.15399547

>>15393201
>Willing to die for God but not live for God
what the hell is even that ?

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>>15395667
>Literally millions of people have done this. Aside from those who don't become fully unconscious, they all experience the same thing: literally nothingness.
Demonstrably false as there are countless NDEs documented to occur during anesthesia, see for instance Jeffrey Long's book on NDEs. Also, NDEs convince those who have them.
>b-b-but NDEs are dreams or hallucinations somehow
Already explicitly refuted in the literature you likely have not read on NDEs.

Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:

https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o

It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."

Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the real world by comparison.

Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE:

>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."

Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs.

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>>15399547
>what the hell is even that ?
Living is harder than dying, dying is easy, effortless and permanent. Especially if youre dying so you can be rid of the horrors of your own actions...

>>15398005
Hey, look, he "just wanted to do the right thing and inform the FBI about his fren's insurrection charges". He heard what the people said about him and he was moved, he will do the right thing.