/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15364585
Forgot to mention, there are also pics of my grandmother as a child along the beach near where I live. The tide is basically the same.

>>15364585
>>>/blog/

>>15364593
Global sea level rise is about 8 inches since 1900. What the fuck do you expect it to look like?

>>15364585
Global cooling/global warming/climate change/lying kikes pilpul of the month is a lie.

Nils Axel Maunder found no evidence of sea level rise.
He lost his role at the ipcc because of it.

>>15364585
>Shouldn't it have raised by a meter
where the fuck are you getting that?

>>15364633

>>15364585
>Shouldn't it have raised by a meter or so by now?
Nope, last century mean sea levels were apparently rising at a rate of roughly 2 mm per year

yeah coast hasn't fuckin moved ever but the weather has been going nuts particularly this year and last year. I blame it on the nazis in the american government getting desperate after it turns out their latest wunderweapon can only blow some wind around.

>>15364585
Legitimate answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTRlSGKddJE

>>15364896
>apparently rising at a rate of roughly 2 mm per year
That's modeled, not measured.

>>15364965
>actually posting potsmoker54

>>15365508
>i have no argument

>>15364965
Based, informative material. Helplessness of >>15365508 further proves it.

>>15365543
>>15365553
He's a known liar why should I take him seriously?

>>15365561
>He's a known liar why should I take him seriously?
You've scraped the 2 bottom rows of the pyramid so far, so why should anyone take (you) seriously?

>>15365570
Correctly pointing out the untrustworthiness of a liar is a valid argument.

>>15365561
projection, the post

>>15365606
>Correctly pointing out the untrustworthiness of a liar
>Correctly
Wow, hold it buddy. You've provided not a single example of Potholer's lies. How about starting with that?

>>15364585
>How come? Shouldn't it have raised by a meter or so by now?
Its a false alarm anyway. For example the Netherlands can easily keep up with their usual methods regardless.

https://www.climatechangepost.com/netherlands/coastal-floods/

https://www.rijkswaterstaat.nl/en/water/water-safety/sea-level-rise

>>15364965
>Legitimate answer
tldr that church of science bullshit
Please timecode were he refutes the pic

>>15365670
Waterstraats level gained due to diking. Show long term coast level data. Protip they put them away like DHI over here

>>15365686
Like picrel? Still doesn't seem apocalyptic to me. Considering an average of 200k immigrants a year, moving 750 people gradually until 2100 should be a piece of cake.

https://earth.org/data_visualization/sea-level-rise-by-2100-amsterdam/

>>15365720
> See level in 2100

>Can't grasp the number of the current year?
> True believer in circular arguments?

>>15365734
What are you arguing for or against? My position is that rising sea level, now or in the future, is an overestimated problem at least for the Dutch. If you have evidence to the contrary, show it instead of your passive agressive attitude.

>>15365758
>What are you arguing for or against?
Rising sea level. Certainly the "official models" are also exaggerated, but there is no indication that these are correct. But you are right when you say that it is far more harmless than suggested.

>>15364896
How do you even measure this, the tides will stop any precise measurements no? at least to the degree of mm

>>15365720
Isnt the Netherlands already below sea level since 1900

>>15366011
Since medieval times, I think.

>>15366025
The land was reclaimed from the bay starting in the Roman period. Poldering with mechanical drainage began in the 11th century.

>>15366011
Yea but there's a big wall of dirt preventing the ocean from flowing back over the land. Boats go through locks. When I was there many Dutch were complaining about having to raise the level of the earthen dyke but in this "haha, the ocean can never defeat the Dutch" kind of way.

>>15365295
Its a completely fake graph, made by the same people responsible for climategate. sea level is not rising anywhere, not even slightly. neither are temperatures, the climate has been rock steady for the past half century. still cooler than the 1930s

Current estimate is a rise of sea level by less than 30cm until the year 2100. That's less than average dick size.

>>15364896
How do you get satellite altimetry before the 1950s?

>>15366664
>cooler than the 1930s
usa =/= global
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl

>>15366717
Americans are retarded, what is new?

>>15364633
Well, incompetence gets you fired indeed.

>>15366006
Keep averaging. You will get to mm precision eventually even with a few meters of noise.

>>15366011
Only parts of it but yes.

>>15364585
https://youtu.be/3wU8_jT61eE

Earth is flat. Climate change is a meme, though something else might be at play here.

>>15364585
>another climate change denial thread on sci

You're conspiracy theories are not science or math. They're at best simply wrong, and possibly even evidence of some level of mental instability and paranoia on your part.

Next time time you feel the need to go on a schizo rant, consider doing so on >>>/x/ or >>>/pol/.

>>15364585
The truth is that all climate scientists are lying on the behalf of their demon overlords that want to establish global pedosatanist NWO communism.

>>15367211
not all are lying, just the ones with a platform and clout

>>15367207
I see you. You can't hide.

>>15367207
This is a flat earth board now. Keep moving scienceboi

>>15366717
>le hockeystick

>>15364616
Greta told me we would all be underwater by now.

>>15368119
we what do you expect, its "science" from a political organization, of course they're going to lie, political organizations would have no reason to exist if they weren't lying and manipulating.
they don't do anything else

>>15369363
projection, the post

>>15364585
It's a psy-op. Isn't it obvious?

>>15365720
>AH SICK! Some JUICY visual data
>stark and vibrant christmas blue......
>....jpg
come on man, i could make a timelapse graph in the time it takes me to wipe my ass without irritating the surrounding area.

>>15364585
Stop noticing, get vaxxed, eat the bug, and cut your penis. Is good for you.

>>15366006
you measure at either high or low tide
Pretty simple

>>15369824
>you measure at either high or low tide
>Pretty simple
You never did that, for sure.

>>15369760
Its obvious, but it plays into the motives of people who want to project an outward appearance of virtue, so the psy-op becomes somewhat self-sustaining.

>>15364965
>dont do your own research
>does his own research
>you can't see it because sea level rise is exponential and you'll have to wait decades for it to be bad

saved you 30 minutes

>>15372228
I knew potsmoker was stupid but is that really the best he could do?

>>15372228
Where in the video is the 'exponential' rise mentioned?

>>15364585
Scientists say the sea floor is lowering.

>>15364585
There are other factors that may affect seal levels around your area including erosion, natural seafloor shifts, simply the ground also lowering at a similar rate, so the effect isn't instantly seen by naked eyes.

You are just describing your anecdotal point of view, anon.

>>15364585
Do you live on a passive (east coast) or active margin (west coast)? Do you live at a rocky coastline like Massachussetts or a long flat sandy coastline like Florida? Is your local government pumping out groundwater and oil like retards (Louisiana)? Are they taking active measures to manage coastlines through armoring or beach replenishment?

>>15372141
a lot of people have been duped into promoting the psy-op because doing so feeds their egotistical desires. it will continue to snowball until it self destructs

>>15364585
Sea level rise is measured in millimeters per decade. I've lived in or near the S F bay area all my life and tides have been in the -1.6 to 7.4 range my whole life. Couple of 7.1s this year, last 7.4s I remember were two in 2003 or so. Been hearing the 3 to 5 feet this century since the late 80s, actual rise is so incredibly subtle its hardly perceptible over a human lifespan. Compared to 2 meters per century during the glacial meltwater pulse a few centuries ago.

>>15366011
They are trying to reclaim a little bit of Doggerland, the dry land bridge between Europe and the British isles, that flooded around 10,000 years ago.

>>15366717
>USA - measured
>Latin America, Southeast Asia, Africa: no recorded data, graph modeled

>>15364585
picrel is global warming propaganda from about 15 year ago.

>>15383576
Uhhhh Denmarkbros?

>>15383576
world would be a better place if it were real

>>15367207
>You're conspiracy theories
no, we are not. otoh learn to fucking spell before you dare voice an opinion on the Internet.

>>15364585
You haven't noticed because change was slow?

>>15384537
There's no chance you retard, it's all a lie.
Why can't you goylem do what your kike masters tell you, and vaccinate already.
Just fucking euthanise yourself already.

>>15384557
I tried fentanyl, but it felt so good I wanted to stay alive.

>>15384537
Just 2 more weeks until NYC is underwater.

>>15383653
sahara green'd up nicely

>>15367135
>Well, incompetence gets you fired indeed.
Since when? Do you even follow Retraction Watch?

>>15366678
How do you read a graph?

>>15364585
>Shouldn't it have raised by a meter or so by now?
Climate Change = Hoax, scam, cult.

>>15364585
>the weather has become more erratic.
No, it's just reported in a more "scary" or "extreme" manner and hyped up more.

>>15386223
>No, it's just reported in a more "scary" or "extreme" manner and hyped up more.
Someone post that chart of the German weather station making their weather chart redder over time.

>>15386235
Just look at all the "weather channel" shit. Every single day it is "EXTREME WEATHER ALERT!" about this or that. Doesn't matter what the weather does, it is "extreme" or "dangerous" or an "alert" or a "warning".

Whole gawdamn world is a bunch of slack jawed pussyfied faggots now.

>>15364585
The ocean is very big.
Even rapidly melting caps will only raise the overall level slowly. The 2012 type global deluge is simply media fantasy. Instead it will be a constant but gradual increase in sea level over the course of decades.
We're expecting about 2-3ft sea level rise around the US by 2100 for example. Significant, but not some biblical flood, at least not by that point.

Pics like your OP are useless because we don't know the relative tidal heights or time of day.

>>15370220
He was right, at this rate with projected sea level rises many low lying island nations will be flooded permanently and experience far more chaotic weather.

>>15386337
>predict the apocalypse
>doesn't happen
>say it will only happen a lifetime from now
>it's totally real this time though

>>15386339
Predicted temperature rises and predicted sea level rises have all been demonstrated.
The models have been accurate so far.

You read too many pop magazine articles and watch too much Hollywood.
The numbers in the actual studies have been openly available for a long time.
A significant but gradual sea level rise associated with increased climatic chaos and disruption is predicted. And has been predicted for decades and such predictions have panned out successfully already in many instances.

>>15386345
>Predicted temperature rises and predicted sea level rises have all been demonstrated.
no they havent

>>15386316
>rapidly melting caps
Highest water density is at 4°C.

>>15386345
>been demonstrated.
Not possible because dynamic systems at 140°C Span (-80 to 80 °C) and 14m tide range. You must model (even when there were A honest science) and have to correct by nature observations. Tide see OP pic, "Warming" see cooling down nearly everywhere..

>>15386316
>We're expecting about 2-3ft sea level rise around the US by 2100 for example.

https://archive.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/034.htm
From 1990:
>F.9 Projections of Future Changes in Sea Level
>Figure 24: Global average sea level rise 1990 to 2100 for the SRES scenarios.
>3 for temperature). For the full set of SRES scenarios, a sea level rise of 0.09 to 0.88 m is projected for 1990 to 2100 (see Figure 24), primarily from thermal expansion and loss of mass from glaciers and ice caps.

as of 33 years (30%) into the 110 year interval, no sea level rise whatsoever has been measured. none. your fraudulent, comic bookish doomsday
scenario has been proven fake time and time again, buy you still come back spouting the same old lies regardless. its almost as if you have no ability to learn at all.

>>15386425
Where do you see cooling?
Regardless, as the name implies, climate change acknowledges the potential for cooling.
For example, in a worst case scenario, a collapse of the Gulf Stream could see a cooling of Northern Europe as warm air and water from the Caribbean is no longer being carried that far north.
As well, colder winters, where they happen, are part of weather intensification. Which is a well known part of climate change.

>>15386357
>>15386439
First is that you ignore that such sea level rise isn't linear.
It increases over time as more the ice caps lose more mass and melt faster for it.
Next is that you ignore that we have seen a change in sea level already of several inches.
Since 1990, your chart, sea levels have risen about 4" in aggregate. Which is significant.

More in some places, less in others. Despite being a single body of water, the ocean isn't completely even.

>>15386646
>graph starts at little ice age
errry single time

>>15380489
nobody ever has a good deboonk for this point

>>15386666
Quads of truth. It also uses the obviously fraudulent "adjusted" temps that somehow make the 1930s cool when they were the hottest decade in recorded history.

>>15386666
Checked. Climate cult BTFO.

I have a few thoughts
How much sea level rise has been predicted in the past? I mean the scientific consensus not the outlier
Are we supposed to notice a significant difference?
Are sea levels rises uniform across the planet? I don't know
Are the photos taken at the same time? Maybe the tide affects it

>>15386666
That still doesn't help you out.

>>15386646
>Where do you see cooling?
In real world i give if fuck of sciencefrauds.

Is the Antarctic ice melt still localized around underwater volcanism?

>>15386684
No, sea level rise isn't even.
Just like how some places have multimeter tides, and some places have only a foot, if not less, so too are current sea level rises not evenly distributed.
Due to how the continents and gravity break up the ocean, some places will always have a 'glut' or 'dearth' of water.

>>15386689

>>15386684
>the scientific consensus
since when is science meant to be decided on the basis of popular vote?
the way science works is one guy has the highest iq and he knows more than everyone else. consensus only guarantees that low iq midwits have the final say which is the opposite of science

>>15386695
Yeah.

>>15386696
Yeah alright thanks, that matches my own experiences although with coast erosion it is hard to tell

>>15372141
Since when is Elon based?

>>15386709
he bought twitter in order to spread the gospel

>>15386689
What? How can "warm medieval" be called warm, when it was declining from something clearly warmer??

>>15387132
Because the 'warm medieval period' was a local event you absolute mongoloid.

Jesus Christ, it's the same moronic arguments for 20 years, there is just a never ending stream of midwit idiots who think they have just learned the secret of climate change that everyone else is missing.

>>15387179
>local
In that case the reply above was quite misleading. Well done.

>>15386669
>hottest decade in recorded history
Another American who thinks USA=World.
1930s were the hottest in US history not global. And I don't even know if that's true anymore the 2010s may have passed it

>>15386316
The three to five feet this century prediction goes back to the 80s, anon. All were getting between now and 2100 is the standard march of millimeters we've been seeing all along.

>>15364965
> a quick scan through shows most data to be within a 200 year time frame.
I dont think i will bother checking this out, but thanks anyway.

Everything is complex in a planetary scale.
The carbon narrative is fake science.
See this vid, temperature and CO2 evolve independently many many times:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1OreyX0-fw

>>15365809
Lmao get fucked tranny

>>15386659
>>15387820
We can already see an acceleration.
3-5 feet is very different than 2-3 feet. And 3 feet of sea level rise is an extreme maximum in most predictions.

>>15387306

>>15387306
In terms of climate data the US has more datapoints from the 1930s than everywhere else on the planet combined so yeah we are the world.

>>15388448
Holy shit that schnozz.

>>15364585
sea lvl rise is more a local thing these days,
some places have it others don't.

>>15388455
And people like him want to claim that every year in the US is a new record high. They're duplicitous.

>>15391195
Cool it with the antisemitism.

>>15386223
no, from my experience since I was a kid, the weather has indeed become more extreme

>>15392163
t. californianized american

>>15392163
Do you maybe just pay more attention to global weather patterns as an adult with twitter and facebook than you did as a kid with basic cable?

>>15364585
Tell that to Koreans.

>>15392183
yeah, thats probably it

Greenpeace Co-Founder says
>The Scientific Method Has Not Been Applied in Such a Way as to Prove That Carbon Dioxide Is Causing the Earth to Warm
https://rumble.com/v2kcqc0-greenpeace-co-founder-dr.-patrick-moore-the-scientific-method-has-not-been-.html

>>15394557
Even nobel laureates don't trust it. >>15390974

>>15392163
>I can barely remember 9/11 but the last ten or twelve seasons haven't been precisely identical to the date so this is unusual.

>>15388096
You should honestly focus your anxiety disorder on cancer or a heart attack or something that is actually going to kill you rather than fixating on something irrelevant like the 2/10 of a foot of sea level rise that will occur over the next half dozen decades that won't actually affect you in any way. The shoreline will be in essentially the same place the day you leave the world as you entered it, unlike during the glacial meltwater pulses when human cultures saw meters per century and watched doggerland go under the sea in human timescales.

>>15369466
what a valid post. yes, that anon probably is a multitrillion dollar entity imposing its will through the monopolization of violence.

>>15364896
Why are there no error bars on this graph?

>>15366717
It's somewhat less impressive when you read the actual reports and realise that they tweak models until they match with the observations and then use this as proof that models are correct.

Bird brains really have a problem understanding the exponential function. But it's thanks to their retardation that I get to get rich through stonks. Gotta have a loser on the other side for me to be a winner.

>>15395427
>physicist thinks he is an expert in climateology
Dude should stay in his lane. You wouldn't trust a civil engineer to call quantum physics bunk, either.

>>15395698
>trying to address and extremely important climate shift that will carry with it significant changes to global weather patterns, global temperature bands, and cause extremely expensive damage to many major cities is just anxiety
Sea level rise is one part of a large network of interconnected effects.
As well, being so solipsistic is how we got here in the first place. Humans not caring about consequences that are far off is what triggered this climate change issue itself. We knew the mechanism of carbon dioxide and other industrial waste gases accumulating in the atmosphere and causing warming over a century ago. No one cared because the consequences were decades off.
If everyone keeps thinking like that, we're doomed as a species.

>>15395919
Shut your claptrap you antisemite.

>>15396213
>If everyone keeps thinking like that, we're doomed as a species.
>I believe in a comicbookish Marvel Cinematic Universe doomsday fantasy.
>I am not a narcissist, I am extremely intelligent and you must listen to my grandiosity.

>>15397608
Yes, 10s of thousands of climate researchers putting out studies and predictions that all align with, "this is an extremely bad situation that is going to cause great damage to humanity if not ameliorated", is just my narcissism and hypochondria.
You on the other hand with what I'm sure is decades of experience in doing novel climatological research have outsmarted us all and can confidently reference internet culture wars like superhero films to disprove all such claims and associated data.

>>15397643

>>15364585
Conspiracy theory schizo level incoming.
Conservationist here.
The thing that grinds my gears about climate change is that it appears to be such a convenient murky smoke screen distracting people from more immediate and tangible environmental issues.
Soil degradation
Declining water quality
Habitat destruction
Loss of biodiversity
Heavy metal contamination
Atmospheric pollution
Microplastics...
....how much longer do you want me to go on? I could list another dozen.
Then along comes climate change, a topic that is so vague, with so many arguments and counterarguments that its wide open to media manipulation and disinformation.
Who cares about another dozen species going extinct as a result of land clearing?
Who cares about the loss of yet another wetland?
Who cares about the declining oxygen content of yet another river?
Because all attention is focused on Climate change.
Here's the schizo conspiracy part.
I am beginning to think climate change, if not actually promoted by big companies, is their preferred "public concern" because it is so vague and intangible that they can forever stall on the issue. Meanwhile they can continue activities like deforestation, dumping toxins into the environment, pumping out more consumer waste while everyone is off wringing their hands over climate change. Now here's the best part about climate change distraction. Its globally political. People can point their fingers at the causes and then immediately the whole debate becomes caked with political mud. Whats the point of Western nations addressing climate change if developing nations are not? Now the arguments begin and the whole issue becomes a political shit show with data and projections being thrown around. Meanwhile some species of insect, which has until now has successfully navigated 200 million years of evolution is snuffed out. Forever. No one cares, expect the plants it pollinates.

>>15397714
It's a conspiracy fact, not a conspiracy theory. Energy companies invented global warming in the 80s and governments hopped on board. Haven't you wondered why every solution to the "problem" results in increased state-corporate power?

>>15397714
If you are a conservationist then chances are that you have access to actual government reports instead of whatever the media presents. Chances are that those reports address tangible environmental issues in detail. The government also keeps track of what budget is spend on what policy and how effective the policy was.
Look I sympathize with all the /pol/ and /x/, but they have an outside perspective of a 20-year old with no work experience besides minimum wage jobs.

>>15397805
Because every attempt to ask the private market to fix their shit has failed.
People have been telling companies to willingly shift to more green energy sources and better deal with their pollutants since the 60s.
And yet those companies have only ever taken action when the gov't steps in.

>>15398300
Global warming is fake, there is nothing that needs fixing other than your low IQ

>>15399226
Why do you believe climate change is not happening?

>>15399681
Observational evidence. AKA science.

>>15399708
What are you observing such that you contradict the vast majority of climatological researchers?

>>15399723
The laws of physics, temperature data, and weather patterns.

>>15399747
Can you share it?

>>15399723
>the vast majority of climatological researchers
the majority is guaranteed to be midwits, the small number of geniuses are guaranteed to be a minority, thats how iq stats work

>>15400177
>Can you share it?
To whom? It's all on your fingertips and the only reason you not sharing it is your unwillingness refusing to obey.

Science nowadays pretends to have "physical models" but the correct term is simulations. Small simulations in the big simulation normies call "their life" what in reality is little more as a big 360° lie.

>>15399723
Science is not a democracy. Reality is independent from majority vote.

>>15399723
Every theory on how the universe works was once a minority opinion pushed against a majority of academic fart smellers.

Climate change is just the majority opinion held by fart smellers currently.

>>15400580
>>15400736
>>15400744
>>15400761

Contrarian mental illness, zero arguments

>>15400580
That could be the case, if climatological researchers weren't already a small higher level caste locked away behind high levels of educational and rigor requirements.
Meaning that the field is going to greatly lean towards the more intelligent.

Regardless, are you saying that you're a genius who is vastly smarter than the vast majority of the field?

>>15400761
>currently
More like for the last 80 years.
Even in the earliest days, climate change with a focus on the Earth warming was the accepted model. And that has only become confirmed over time.

>>15400766
Exactly. Those who are against conspiracy realists have already decided in advance that any argument a conspiracy realist presents must be ridiculed. So no pearls are cast before you swine. Enjoy transferring more of your wealth to coastal mansion owners and let's meet in 2030 to see how much you still like The Science.

>>15395919
oh no, a model that matches observations.
https://youtu.be/fii2DPoNfZo?t=5m10s

>>15400797
It's the position held by fart smellers for the last 40 years. It's fast approaching its expiration date now that none of its predictions have come to pass.

Geologist, Professor Ian Plimer: "When we look back in time, there's one thing that we see, and that is that carbon dioxide has never driven climate change."
https://files.catbox.moe/7pb7ek.mp4

>>15402826
Good video, too bad Youtube refuses to host it

>>15364585

>>15404617
sloppy job, retard

>>15364616
>8 inches in 100 years
omg. we're all gonna die11!!!11

>>15364635

>>15404631
There are tides, this whole thing is stupid beyond belief

>>15404694
Agreed. Anyone who believes in the global warming hoax is a retard.

>>15365606
You have to give examples first

>>15365809
Are you fuckers to retarded to read? Climate change is the change of the climate, where all global warming would be climate change, but not all climate change is global warming.

>>15383576
It literally says 2100 in your pic name

>>15405097
Which means it was made in the year 2100 of course.

>>15404774
>>>15404694
>Agreed. Anyone who believes in the global warming hoax is a retard.
They do not care, even the dumbest and idiotic lies are sufficient as long you discuss them.
Science day is rope day, there no other solution.

>>15404641

>>15405993
>global cooling
>global sea level drop
Really makes you think.

>>15405993
>>15407003
Oh noes! The sea level is dropping! It is a catastrophe! We must give more taxes to the government to fix it!

>>15364585
>We hear how the polar ice caps and glaciers are melting at record pace.
They aren't, what you've heard is all lies.

>>15408593
Interesting... How are they able to lie so boldly about something like that?

>>15404694
>>15405309
But why use obviously retarded arguments like that Fort Denison pic?

>>15410385
It easily stumps and angers climate apocalypse cultists because they have no knowledge of the relevant facts.

>>15409659
The people they're lying to are the ones who pay their bills, but they people they lying for are the ones who sign the checks and thats all that matters to them

>>15409659
>Interesting... How are they able to lie so boldly about something like that?
They are just quite when the media and their masters lie. The science wageslave mantra "We never told that" is correct because they never tell anything.
On the other hand "They who consume she bullshit of media and -experts- had lost control of their live"

>>15407422
>The sea level is dropping!
There is no sea level. Even in a local area it is a model out of averaging tides winds and surface changes. On the global you have a swinging system driven by moon sun streams wind and amounts up to 14m hub in a few hours. Can change with e.g streams vastly and do. Sciencefrauds always tries to catch you in their realms of names and narratives. If you work in offshore wet dredging like i did you never heard anything of them for good reasons .

>>15410385
Theres nothing wrong with the pic, sea level is not rising, global warming is a false narrative

>>15409659

>>15386345
>The models have been accurate so far

>>15397643
>10s of thousands of climate researchers
That's bullshit

>>15408593
>>15409659
Because there are two ice caps.
As well that doesn't address thickness. The Antarctic Sea Ice could be half the thickness it was a decade ago, and it wouldn't show because that is just coverage rather than any more wholistic measurement.

>>15413537
There are almost 10k atmospheric scientists in the US alone. And that doesn't cover all climatological researchers.
>https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/atmospheric-scientists-including-meteorologists.htm
Its a big crowd. Not some tiny cadre that no one knows about. This is a big field of research and study that has a lot of attention paid to it.

>>15413839
Lol retarded redditards will think this means something. Any actual scientist knows that the overwhelming majority of STEMtards don't actually know shit about their own field and lie religiously.

>>15413844
So who knows about those fields?

>>15413849
Very few. The push to get every retard and their pet hamster into STEM has seriously hurt the scientific endeavor. Anyone telling the truth in any field at this point is a heretic. Since scientists are paid basically nothing, they're like whore politicians and just do whatever the organization providing them money tells them to.

>>15364585
>I do agree, though that the weather has become more erratic.
Geoengineering and weather modification and weather warfare have existed for decades. Patents going back over a century now.

Most people won't accept something is real unless it's represented in pop culture mainstream media in a positive light. It doesn't matter how many patents exist, or how many spooks come out and admit it's real, or how many whistleblowers, or how many public TV interviews. And it something's represented in pop culture and it's mocked or ridiculed, they won't even dare investigating it because they're so afraid of the world rather than only God (Mt 10:28).

https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/ask-nasa-climate/2974/cant-see-sea-level-rise-youre-looking-in-the-wrong-place/

>>15414027
>Sandy areas are eroding and the sand bars are moving!
Are these faggots really serious right now? Now do places with actual exposed rock.

>>15414064
Enough with the antisemitism.

>>15414064
They are serious. They just think you won't question it because they assume everyone is dumber than they are (this is the midwit mountain/Dunning Kruger effect).

>>15413836
steady as a rock for the past 15 years

>>15386700
You are clueless.

>>15414064
its nasa, a government propaganda agency, what do you expect? might as well link to npr

>>15386689
bros, you do realize that there's more monitoring systems that were probably being added to the southern hemisphere and the equator right?

>>15416983
the hockey stick is pure propaganda, everyone knows it a lie, the people who repost it just don't mind being liars.

>>15413844
>and lie religiously.
lying is their religion, they are atheists, they are anti-christ.
the bible says not to lie, those who are against the bible will always lie

>>15364585
>Shouldn't it have raised by a meter or so by now?
No. Sea level rising isn't remotely that fast. People selling you a sunken Florida by 2100 are massive bullshitters.

>>15417334
Why are you comparing a local weather measure to a global temperature measure?

>>15386700
science is a danger to our democracy

>>15419152
>actual pol pot quotes
fuck off retard

>>15386696
Wonder what that orange spot is. Is that where the Jews are siphoning water from to make it appear like global sea levels are rising? It's far enough south that people wouldn't notice.

>>15419671
yeah that whole map is retarded

>>15386696
>No, sea level rise isn't even.
> showing the normal change due to streams and winds
>use rise as wording anyhow
>board of sciencefrauds and propagandashills pretends to be /sci.

>>15419955
Have those winds and steams dramatically changed in direction, amplitude, and shape in the last few decades?
And if so, why?

>>15420373
No.

>>15419323
khmer a minute

>>15416983
you mean those australian ones with the fake thermometers?

>>15404774
this

>>15421425
Suddenly he vanished in a puff of smoke, without a rebuttal.

>>15364585
>We hear how the polar ice caps and glaciers are melting at record pace.
they aren't

>>15423655
>sea ice, not land ice
>no source
wew lad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_Antarctica#Changes_in_ice_mass

>>15423751
Wikipedia us your refuting source? You are a joke

>>15364616
17 years ago o was told Virginia Beach would be underwater in 10 years

>>15423953
Enough with the antisemitism.

>>15423751
>wikipedia

>>15425399
>i have no argument

>>15424861
Did the price of waterfront property go down on the news? No?
Follow the money, not the soience

>>15423655
>no change in 50 years

>>15427806
Rock steady climate for 50 years, and yet nobody is happy with the good news.

>>15428062
>nobody
the political activists posing as scientists certainly aren't. they'll just make up new lies in pursuit of their ulterior motives

>>15424861
How is Virginia Beach doing today?

>>15429735
Same as it's always been.

>>15430108
Have they given a new timeline for when its going to be underwater yet?

>>15370220
>>15386339
you're reading the wording wrong
a substantial amount of melt and sea level rise is locked in even if all greenhouse emissions went to zero instantaneously

>>15430842
The rate of sea level rise as measured by physical tide gauges has been steady for the last 100 years.

>>15430842
that didn't occur

>>15430842 see >>15423655
https://i.4cdn.org/sci/1683519911601412.png

>>15366717
>unironically posting a hockeystick graph of global warming
I don't know if you are bating or serious.

>>15432433
3rd option: low IQ

itt: retardation

>>15428564
protip: they already did make up those new lies

>>15365570
Interesting thesis. 1RM bench?

>>15364585
Weather is only more erratic because we are tracking it more accurately.

>>15364616
8 inches. Well my dick obviously.

>>15432767
>no argument

>>15430638
two weeks

>>15387132
the lying climate evangelists reduced the medieval warm period temps to fit their political agenda, same as they did with the dust bowl eral

>>15436470

>>15437164
Fuck off with your antisemitism.
The data is real in my mind.

>>15397643

>>15423953

>>15423655
There are two poles.

>>15436470
What lies?
You do understand that different parts of the globe have different weather patterns? Even in the form of local temperature rises.

>>15364896
Wait that's it? 120 years and its risen less than a foot?

That's not even a problem.

>>15396197
you say this, but then will claim a consensus backs human-induced global warming when that consensus is only strong when taken across varying fields of science, whereas within climatology and related fields the consensus is much weaker

>>15439751
Why doesn't your image state what month the measurement was taken? Why is your graph withholding data?

>>15439873
It didn't.
The source told you if you would have reverse image searched.

>>15439884
thats just another fake graphic just like all the rest of the fake global warming hysterics' fake graphics

>>15364616
>8 inches
Really 5 inches

>>15441073
Which scientific papers are you referencing here?

>>15439884
>source: NASA
a government propaganda agency, not a scientific organization

We are coming out of an ice age so yea I expect shit to melt

>>15443120
Fuck off you antisemite.

>>15443120
The issue is the rapid acceleration.

>>15444679
what rapid acceleration? australia has it's earliest snowfall on record less than two weeks ago, its not getting hotter

>>15445659
Intensification of standard weather patterns is part of climate change. Seeing more extreme events like that, is to be expected.
People have already posted many different temperature graphs, demonstrating our measurements showing the Earth's warming.

>>15446100
>global warming means it gets colder

>>15441073
Does the peek oil lie really go all the way back to the 1960s? I only remember it from the Bush Jr years

>>15365570
That's clearly a triangle, you pedantic shit slinging Neanderthal monkey

>>15365636
Youtube is jewish owned

>>15379852
good pic

>>15405092
Climates been changing for millions of years

If you're worried about climate change, you're an idiot

I don't even see how melting ice is supposed to make sea level rise, water is denser than ice, the ice wouldn't float if that weren't the case.

>>15450669
There is ice on land too, you know

>>15364616
Even that is a ridiculous claim.
In the other side there are ruins of ancient cities below the sea, millennia before the fossil fuels era. How do you explain that? What mental gymnastics you need to do to twist reality to your absurd claims about CO2?
You are nothing but trained animals, that was the definition of educated, that is the definition of educated.

goys, I ignore all numbers, statistics, charts, graphs that come from the government INSTANTLY. age of truth is gone.

>>15450669
The climate hysterics rely on ignorance to believe in stuff like sea level rise, which is clearly not happening in irl

>>15449489
>climate change
They just changed the wording from global warming because that period has gone. Don't fall for it, it's a scam as always.

>>15364616
> 8 inches since 1900
how do they "prove" it???

>>15364616
I expect it too look like eight inches. It doesn't. It does look like a cash grab by the world's largest polluters. Which affects the air, the waterways, the groundwater, and the soil. I see this everywhere. I do not see your claim anywhere.

>>15452257
>> 8 inches since 1900
>how do they "prove" it???
They model it with some climate-student written "expert" sources. If you can them take a look and you know what's on.

>>15452556
read

>>15451176
Increasing temperatures also increases the amount of water held in the atmosphere as vapor, but you just happily ignore that because it doesn't dovetail with the false narrative of rising sea levels you're trying to shill. you have no interest in science or truth or facts, you only care about shilling you fake doomsday narrative

>>15364585
There's no basis to the idea that weather becomes more "erratic" or "extreme" the higher the average temperature is.

>>15372228
Even if all ice on Earth melted, the sea level would only rise by around 65 meters, which would leave even low-lying countries like Bangladesh majority intact. Sea level rise is a meme.

>>15365561
How's he a known liar? I used to watch his stuff a lot like four years ago but haven't in ages.

>>15386337
Who cares?

>>15396213
>muh globohomo hive cities are gonna get wet!!!!!

>>15397714
>muh insects
Don't care

>>15398300
We need more global warming. It's too cold.

>>15449489
Climates change on the scales of thousands, to more commonly hundreds of thousands or millions of years.
Right now we're seeing drastic climactic shifts on the scale of decades to hundreds of years.
That is both extremely significant and very worrying, as it will demand rapid adaptation by humankind.

>>15453197
That's bollocks. Decades more like. Also it's more like global cooling that is the problem.

>>15450669
Sea ice isn't the only ice around.
>>15451721
Cities that collapsed into the ocean due to volcanic activity or earthquakes, or something similar are not comparable to anything else in the discussion.
If you have real evidence of some great city that is currently under the ocean, please share so I can explain it to you.

>>15452754
Yeah, yeah.
You hate modern society and live in a cabin on a mountain in Montana where you only drink pure spring water and eat freshly hunted bison meat and plan to defend yourself with an entire armory against raiders after the boogaloo comes through.
But for everyone who isn't delusional, many to most of humanity's biggest and most important cities being extensively damaged/made uninhabitable, along with significant changes and damage done to agricultural practices, along with a general intensification of extreme weather incidents, along with a shifting in climate banding, are all very worrying.

>>15453217
nobody cares actually.

>>15364585
> Shouldn't it have raised by a meter or so by now?
Supposedly, according to some projections and erratic declarations of others. Honestly can't tell, myself living on the coast for a couple of decades already.

>>15453517
no fucking way the water goes this high, it would take a massive increase in ocean temperatures for that amount of thermal expansion, but if this ever materializes, it's not in my lifetime, so, FUCK IT

>>15452560
>read
Science scammers, media megafrauds or about the fact that even the made up official rise amounts to 1 Meter in 400 years?

>>15453217
1) Water rise is a complete fictional pilpul, so it's a non-problem.
2) Even if it wasn't, the rise would be so slow, it would be trivial to manage.
3) I wish every second of every hour of every day for all cities to be bombed into oblivion and all citybugs to be genocided, don't threaten me with a good time.

>>15453895
cities are nearly all costal, sea level rise will destroy them. which is one of the reasons its a shame sea level isn't rising

>>15453525
>not in my lifetime
you don't plan to live another 12-14 years?
watching it in real time is cool and terrifying. It's unfornate we don't plan in more dimensions.

>>15364585
I've lived on the gulf almost thirty years myself and haven't noticed any tide changes

>>15454282
Fuck off antisemite, you obviously just want to oppose mindlessly the important findings of the jewish people.

>>15453895
1) Sea level rise has been documented.
Undate-marked or timestamped photos of beaches aren't evidence otherwise.
2) Whether something is trivial or not is down to institutional effectiveness at dealing with an issue. I have low expecations.
3)>its not happening but its a good thing that it is
Liberal tier arguing.

Regardless, sea level rise is only part of the larger set of problems that we will see.

>>15454633
Regardless.
Follow Media
Vote for Local good People
Things will work, Probably(<?)

>>15454633
> Sea level rise has been documented.
no.

>>15454655
I Don't want to fight. Is there a VPN or Network?

>>15364585
It's already started to be noticeable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB_sVUXg4Lc

>>15454664
no

>>15454633
Sea level rise is as documented as the holocaust, the moon landings, or the purity of ur mum

>>15441073
who owns the media thats been pushing all of those lies?

>>15455056
Oy vey!! You can't say that

>>15455056
government owns information there. government censors it.

>>15455212
Unholy shnoze.