/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15306920

1. Relational Frame Theory

https://raiseyouriq.com/account/plans

• Dual-N-Back exercises (20 minutes daily).

• Moderate intensity cardio - stimulates neurogenesis and increases brain volume

All methods listed here have been shown to increase non-verbal IQ.

>>15306920
Make everyone around you dumber so that your IQ goes up in relation.

>>15306933
>Moderate intensity cardio - stimulates neurogenesis and increases brain volume
I suspicious of this one. Low intensity cardio can lower cortisol levels but higher levels of intensity will release more cortisol up to twice the bodies regular production, which after time will damage the hippocampus and impair learning. Probably why you don't see many geniuses running around super fit etc

>>15307008
I just threw that one in as a "why not". The effects cardio alone will have on IQ is almost certainly extremely minimal relative to the other two methods, but, preliminary research has demonstrated a few effects beneficial to cognition as a consequence of cardio.

To add, I don't think there have been any long term studies (+5yr) regarding the effects of cardio on brain structure. As of now, the one result we can all agree on is that cardio does seem to inhibit and delay age-induced cognitive decay.

But yeah, it's not really a necessity by any means if someone wants to increase their IQ, the former methods will give you the most bang for your buck.

I just wanted OP to get in shape.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160208083606.htm#:~:text=Summary%3A,such%20as%20running%2C%20say%20researchers.

1) Stop doing all drugs, including culturally sanctioned ones like caffeine, alcohol and nicotine. They ALL impact your IQ negatively.
2) Stop watching porn. 100%, not watching even 1 second of any porn, for the rest of your life. Mild erotic art is ok.
3) Start reading books. Read at least 1 book per week. Your intelligence will increase rapidly if you do this.
4) Exercise. Daily. You don't need to over-do it but you need to get that oxygen into your brain.
5) Find a challenging job where you need to constantly use higher cognitive capacities. This will boost your IQ even further.

>>15307061
1) So no dihydrogen monoxide or oxygen?
3) Your mother reads a romance novel everyday and is still dumb as shit, probably dumber than when she started reading those books.
5) If he could get a job like that, he would not be here crying about being so dumb.

>>15307070
And this is why you remain low IQ. Enjoy stupidity.

>>15307073
No, your advice is vague and not very well thought out.

>>15306920
what confuses me about IQ is the supposed hard cap flies in the face of what we know about the brain and the use it or lose it type thing

london taxi drivers have a jacked prefontal cortex because they have to memorise thousands of street names and routes. so why cant similar training methods increase IQ?

genuine question since im aware of how rigerous IQ is as a concept and am not a retarded poppsych guy

>>15307061
This sounds like a list of opinions you found on /fit/. I'm sure heaps of high iq people watch porn and smoke weed etc. Most professors look like they've never exercised a day in their life either.

>>15307193
The concept of a "fixed" IQ is outdated garbage.

But, that that's not to say a "hard cap" doesn't exist, it just means that there are ways to increase your IQ up until you reach such a threshold. I presume this threshold would be determined by your genetic makeup, but this may be an extreme oversimplification.

>>15306920
Forget about IQ. What you need is motivation and determination. A high IQ and no motivation is useless. If you want to learn something and you're determined to learn it then you will learn it. It might take you longer if you're dumb but you'll get further than someone smarter than you who just gives up on everything

>>15307226
Inversely, there are ways in which you can decrease your IQ. We observe this phenomena in smokers and children during summer break.

Logically speaking, even if we didn't have hard data demonstrating increased IQs from certain types of cognitive training, it would be rather retarded to assume that malleability is mono-directional.

>>15306933
Forgot to add, this is the only program I'm aware of based on relational frame theory, and the only program that has repeatedly produced objective measurable gains in IQ.

practice IQ tests
i practiced iq tests and went from 125iq to 150iq lol

>>15306920
Learn new shit. Start from the basics, figure shit out. Do a project. Repeat. If you focus and move in one direction as you snowball you might even contribute some new knowledge to the world.

>>15306920
LSD

>>15306920
It's alright, algernon. I bought you flowers.

>>15306920
Kill a guy who's smarter than you to lower the average. Repeat untill you reach the desired IQ.

Pro's:
>This method works as a matter of mathematical proof
>You can do it with friends
>Great way to get into the hobby of shooting
>It gets progressively more and more effective the faster you kill since the sample size decreases in size
>You don't have to do tiring and boring stuff like excercise or reading
>You get to pick and kill the people you like the least first

Con's:
>Lot of work
>Ammunition is expensive
>Copycats might get it wrong and start shooting dumb people by mistake
>Black people are too dumb to be attractive targets

>>15307582
dead people have zero iq, and chances are he dies soon once he threads that path

>>15306920
Read 1 book a week

>>15307596
any book?

>>15306920
sleep, diet, cardio

all are neurogenerative

>>15307193

>what confuses me about IQ is the supposed hard cap flies in the face of what we know about the brain and the use it or lose it type thing

>london taxi drivers have a jacked prefontal cortex because they have to memorise thousands of street names and routes. so why cant similar training methods increase IQ?

IQ is tied to the concept of working memory. We don't really know what working memory is, or why some people have more of it than others, and we haven't found any successful ways to train a person to have more of it. Spacial memory is something different, which people have been much more successful at intentionally training.

>>15306920
Bump

>>15309696
get divine inspiration from the birds like the egyptions did.

or take bromocriptine

neither of these are troll responses

>>15309697
Schizos thinking IQ is isometric with psychosis

>>15309700
it depends on if you know how to use it.
imagination and creativity is just directed schizoness

and i didnt suggest getting psychosis in the first place

>>15309703
It really doesn't "depends on if you know how to use it."
Observe the real world instead of the hallucinations. No meaningful scientific progress has ever been done by conspiracy theorists.
They mostly ruin their own lives. By observation, we can see that they live in poor conditions, and suffer from low life satisfaction.
It is a disease for a reason.

>>15309707
wtf. at no point did I suggest schizophrenia was IQ manifest.

First of all, you won't believe me but years of watching mythbusters allowed me to pioneer this bullet.

You have to manifest all of your reality into something before unseen in order to actually claim intelligence.

You've just assumed pattern recognition instead of creation as the be all end all.

The reality we exist in now was just a hallucination to those 200 years ago.

fuck you, midwit

>>15309717
You're the one bringing "divine inspiration" and bromocriptine into a discussion about IQ, anon. It's not a very complicated leap of logic to smell the apophenia.
You're an enthusiast. Divine inspiration is not /sci/ence, it's psychosis. A departure from consensus reality.

>>15309719
just because concensus reality is wrong. doesnt mean you have to accept it.

also, have you ever explored the idea that, your understanding of reality, is not concrete?

of course not, you're just a midwit who accepted it at face value

>of course, the divine is not evident in everything we do
>or you just dont see it.

reality is not as you understand, young one.

>>15309731
Don't get me wrong, I love LSD as much as the next guy.
But your beliefs have to pay rent in predictions about the world. Otherwise, you will let delusions ruin your life. The same way it has ruined the life of every severe schizoprhenic person before you.
I mean this partly out of compassion, and mostly of out memeing. But you should take your meds.

>>15309719
also how is bromocriptine relevant to what we're discussing now?

do you even know what it does?

and fuck that, judge my thread.
>>15306864

i'm approaching what happened to me scientifically and not through the divine. i just worded it in such a way because i dont understand what exactly is going on.

i'm looking for all naysayers to call my schizo and to prove what happened to me was impossible.
my reality vs yours.

>>15309739
Here's the thing.
I have no idea what happened to you. I couldn't even have any reason to know.
But the fact that it was so easy to guess should make you think.
Crazy people never realize they're crazy, but it's obvious to everyone else. You should be scared of that. Terrified of it.

It's called anosognosis.
There's a blind woman out there who doesn't know she's blind. Physically cannot know it, because her brain has a lesion in just the wrong place. No matter how much you prove to her she plainly can't see what's in front of her, she'll never admit to it. She can't. Her brain can't.
Anosognosis. Some people are genuinely incapable of realizing anything is wrong with them, and they're not faking it.
Terrifying stuff.

>>15309749
just read through my thread. I ask earnestly.

>>15309751
I believe you. I'm sure you're asking earnestly, and you're not lying about a single thing.
The problem is not with honesty or being earnest.

It's that sometimes, for some people, the brain is made in such a way that you can suffer from something and genuinely not be able to know. It's not like people do it on purpose. Everyone hates it, but what can you do.

The problem is that anosognosia could happen to anyone. If it happened to you, you wouldn't even know. That's the scary part.

Realistically speaking, there's no known way to increase your IQ. If there were, people who found a way would have become super successful and everyone would know.

If you want to improve yourself, focus on fighting the delusions instead. Those actually lower your IQ.
You can't make a human fly, but you can cut a person's legs. Schizophrenia is cutting your legs.
You can't raise your IQ, but you can still try to not let a disease take some of your brain away from you. It's the most precious thing you have, after all.

That's what I think.

>>15309756
and I'm telling you, bromocriptine and other dopamine agonists will give the closest effect to straight up increasing iq as you can ask for

>motivation, attention, memory retention and creativity
it affects habits and along the same lines as you suggest, removing negative attributes, this can promote positive attributes.

a natural increase in the neurotransmitters associated with cognition (where antipsychotics literally do the opposite) is the most you can ask for before gene editing.

i've walked the line that others havent and there are methods that doctors arent even aware, or willing to share.

i agree with what you're saying but the problem is, you aren't me. you haven't seen what i've seen. and while I understand your point about anosognosia, the issue is, I have few other blindspots that would indicate such a failure of cognizance.

all I ask through all my posts, is that you join me or destroy me. I am tired of my lone delusion.

I hope you can see the greater purpose of my very schizo event. I hope that you can decipher the illusion that is reality and affect it as I believe I did. (always, always with the realisation of insanity by saying this)

I hope you are as demanding in your necessity for 'truth' and 'reality' as you are for living in this world.

That's as much as I demand.

>>15309770
>all I ask through all my posts, is that you join me or destroy me.
I want you to be happy, though.
If I join you, we will both be suffering. If I destroy you, I will be suffering, because I don't like destroying things.

>where antipsychotics literally do the opposite
Yeah. Unfortunately, antipsychotics really suck.
We really don't have a cure for schizophrenia. And the meds are fucking awful, they really are.

It's the best we have, and it fucking sucks. I'm sorry I can't tell you anything better.

>I hope you are as demanding in your necessity for 'truth' and 'reality' as you are for living in this world.
I try to be, but in a good way.
I genuinely, earnestly wish you the best.
Much love.

[math]Pb + C_{17}H_{21}NO_{4} \rightarrow 200^{+}iq[/math]

>>15309824
[screams in sepia filter]

>>15306920
Just learn patterns and do memory exercises. IQ is essentially just mental computing+memory+pattern recognition. You are capped obviously in two of these three categories, but you need to get good at pattern recognition to even be using the first two effectively. Luckily for you there are patterns everywhere to learn from, if you look for them.

>>15309770
What does Bromocriptine even do? I've read that it increases the secretion of growth hormones in those who are healthy. What was your experience with Bromocriptine?

>>15307921
Yeah, sure.

>>15309840
Intelligence is at minimum experiencing things and understanding the minimum dataset regarding those things. Intelligence is at maximum, being sensually aware of things and acknowledging the maximum dataset regarding those things.

Intelligence quota is partly to do about things and partly to do about regarding datasets. It's nothing to do with some test of random questions; the test simply measures IQ, poorly, IQ is actually not that result but something to do with what I said.

>>15310029
The things I mentioned,
To a noticeable degree, like a high.

Increased semen production and strength, fixed my hemiparesis

>>15307061
>1) Stop doing all drugs, including culturally sanctioned ones like caffeine, alcohol and nicotine. They ALL impact your IQ negatively.
imagine not nootropicmaxxing lol

Leaving 4chan is a good start

>>15306920
Stop watching anime.

Simple.

>>15307061
>caffeine
citation needed I'm afraid.

At what age does the brain stop growing?

>>15310263
Brains begin to ring when yeta(after mega, giga) intelligence is attained. For every new day experience, a new ring of ultra condensed intelligence is configured. It is said when the brain reaches a more scarcely populated ring, or even a completely desolated ring, the brain is utligent (ultimate intelligence).

>>15306920
get the fuck off of four chan

>>15310295
>>15310295
When ultigent you begin to train mini brains at different locales and other in next phase mind.

>>15306920
Reading this book will probably cover the basics. You shouldn't experiment with more advanced stuff therefore I won't share it.

>>15306920
Get gout.

>>15310321
This is a shill, embryo editing is the only way but the government says that's a nono so we have to cuck future growth in intelligence to AI

>>15306933
Thanks anon

>>15307008
Nerds get put into a box they think they can’t do it

>>15307582
The only possible answer thanks high IQ poster

>>15306933
>All methods listed here have been shown to increase non-verbal IQ.
How do you increase verbal IQ? I can never seem to keep up in arguments or banter with my Jewish classmates

>>15310842
I was actually unaware that dual-n-back training does in fact lead to an increase in verbal IQ as well.

https://www.hrplab.org/brief-review-of-2014-2015-studies-on-working-memory-training-for-iq-and-working-memory/

That statement still stands for the RFT training, not due to the fact that it inherently can't increase verbal IQ, moreso that we don't yet have an adequate amount of data on it.

>>15311095
So yeah, in conclusion, anyone claiming "IQ is fixed at birth, you can't change it" is simply out of touch with current research.

I would personally recommend against trying the obscure methods listed in this thread, such as ingesting drugs, it's simply not necessary.

>>15311095
Gwern has thoroughly debunked the dual-n-back studies already, unfortunately.

Creatine?

try taking nootropics

>>15306920
unironically be healthy if you want to be at ur peak.
but if you are a healthy weight and just healthy in general there isnt really much u can do

>>15306920

It helps to be healthy and on the side of happiness in general.

If you're not as healthy as you could be and unhappy, it takes a cognitive toll.

Very depressed people functionally retarded, as are people who are angy, or unhealthy, because it takes away so much from their mental mental budget, which is not only limited to ability to pay attention.

>>15306920
You can't.