/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15295138
I love how their biggest concern is not health of the people but
>undermining confidence in vaccined

Thank god, WHO have a manual how to keep up vaccine confidence.

>>15295138
>muh vaccine confidence
>all we want is vaccinate and congratulate
>rest is optional
>just put product in people
>noooo don't undermine vaccine confidence
>just follow the vaccination algorithm

>>15295138
Sorry chud but you need to learn to trust the science as it is thrust upon you
> TRUST THE THRUST

This is religious type of thinking, which is what's to be expected when science itself becomes a religion.

>>15295615
the funny part of that is atheists who think they don't worship anything

>>15295138
>conspiracy theory
projection, the post
you're an idiot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_Adverse_Event_Reporting_System#Limitations_and_abuse

>>15297505
leftie wikipedia who surely does not make up articles from thin air and does not lie. Why would people lie, on the internet, amirite?

>>15297505
>vaccine holy grail
>no doc knows that vaccines contain neurotoxic aluminium or liposomes which are know to cause irritations and disease
>doctors do believe vaccines are 100% safe
>give perfectly healthy patient vaccine
>patient gets mysterious blood clots, chronic inflamations, nervous system disorders issues after that
>doctors go: "must be a random coincidence, caused by a genetic autoimmune disease, that all of a sudden appeared. Will not report it as adverse event"

>Limitations
>if not reported, it's not reported
>if no data is currated no assesment can be made
>even if only temporaly associated all events should be investigated
>then evaluated
>not been done

How can safety be verified if nothing will be recorded and then analised?

>>15297500
What a retarded comparison. Religious people worship something by definition. Plenty of atheists don't give a shit about politics. I'm not an atheist either

>>15297603

>>15297519
>tinfoil hat coping
lol

>>15297690
typical leftie retort who does not know or just ignores wikipedia abuse from trannies and other shills

>>15297523
>i analise everything
yeah that's why it's called shitposting

>>15297690
if you believe wikipedia where everyone can edit it then you should believe in VAERS too, you dumb leftie. But no, wikipedia is our team, VAERS is just rightwing conspiracy theorists. Cope more tranny

>>15297603
reddit got redpilled
lol

>our government
conspiratards are always saying this, yet for 99% of them, i don't share a government. i wonder if belief in conspiracies is tied to ignorance about the wider world.

>>15297615
No one said anything about politics. We were talking about science. You conflated the two, likely to try to deflect attention away from your kneeling to science.

>>15297680
good pic

>>15297996
you're the only person itt saying "our government" though

>>15299433
Even still, he must live in China or Russia if his government isn't owned by the GAE.

>>15295615
Coincidentally there are some religions where doing this to non co-religionaries is OK.

>>15299472
doing what to them

>>15299479
genocide

>>15299578
religion isn't ethnic though so that doesn't make sense

>>15295138
COMPLIANCE IS KEY!!!
seriously, the experts we have now are the best experts anybody ever had so the science therefore IS SETTLED!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UQYTb9DwKjQ

>>15295138
>From: Gruber, Marion
>Sent: July 21, 2021
>Dr. Krause and I
>the review timeline cannot be compressed further
>requires a thorough evaluation of safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing info
>very important regulatory issues
>pediatric plan is becoming increasingly complex
>this impacts the finalization of post-marketing requirements and commitments
>absent a license, states cannot require mandatory vaccination
>due date of September 15, a third of the time typically allowed for a standard application

>https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/31/health/fda-vaccine-officials-step-down/index.html
>September 1, 2021
>Two senior FDA vaccine leaders step down as agency faces decision on boosters
>The retirements of Dr. Marion Gruber
>and Dr. Philip Krause
Yeahhhh....

>>15299663
So they were science-denying morons the whole time

>>15299586
Some religions are ethno-religions.

>>15295138
shitposting in government and other soience data sets should be carried out whenever possible. the people looking over the data hate you and want you in debt and in poverty so you can be their obedient slave

>>15297996
your days are numbered, vaxxxxie

>>15297519

soience lied
vaxxxies died

>>15299692
Ethno-religions are religious but religions aren't ethno-religions

>>15295138
My belief structure is based on a distrust of everyone and everything.

I am well aware that they rushed the vax, and that there are almost certainly adverse side effects. I took it as a calculated risk, believing the virus was the worst of 2 options (also bullying probably played a role; my job was on the line etc.). Also its important to note that powerful people themselves took the vaxx; once Trump got early access I wanted in. I figure ignore what they say watch what they do.

So yes, they lied. Yes, the FDA has no credibility. I took the Vax anyways, and think it was the right call. It sucks that I will probably have side effects that I cant get anyone to take seriously, but what can you do; whole systems going to hell.

>>15303147
i'm gonna take all ur stuff after you drop dead, do you wear a fancy wristwatch? consider buying one if you don't. just put it the credit card, you'll be dead soon anyway, so you won't need to pay it off. why not live a little if your days are numbered?

>>15295163
>Vaccinate and congratulate
Literally treating their cattle like a trained dog with little dopamine treats.

>>15303147
>Also its important to note that powerful people themselves took the vaxx
Many of them staged their vaxings for the media.

>>15295138
What substack post is this from, Im curious to read the whole thing myself

>>15295138
>government anticipated mass vaccine injuries, then observed them from day one
All according to plan.
Only fools trust their governments and their TV talking heads.

>>15303265
I will never understand how it is people can flip the station from CGI space opera to the news and not have any pause about whether what they're seeing is real.

>>15304006
>I will never understand
How many of your friends got paid to sit at home and do nothing during Covid?
How much did the contract tracers with do nothing phone call jobs get paid during covid (protip a fuckton)
How much did businesses get paid by the government for doing nothing?
How much did you get paid to do nothing?
How sad were all the kids you know when they heard that they don't have to go to school for a year?

>>15304018
I apologize, I don't understand how what you're saying is connected to what I guess is termed the "Gellman effect'

>>15304032
He's saying people can be incentivized to do things that will ruin society by their own selfishness and desire for comfort.

>>15304032
>I apologize, I don't understand how what you're saying is connected
Everything falls under fallacy of ambiguity because there really is no driver at the wheel. Basically they watch TV knowing specifically that it isn't real, but they want to reassure themselves that the psychosis still exists so that everyone gets a fair turn on the wheel of misfortune. Basically crabs in a bucket.


>>15304038
>He's saying people can be incentivized to do things that will ruin society by their own selfishness and desire for comfort.

That's the most obvious way to ruin it though. You have to be more subtle. Make them believe what they're doing is actually good for society and that they're not killing people with their "acts of kindness" that no one asked for.

>>15304082
An interesting way of putting it.

Basically, they engage with the knowing fiction because they fear losing touch with the mass psychosis hivemind and being ostracized.

This is Trumps fault. He was in charge during the pandemic and allowed this to happen with operation warpspeed.

Many were afraid the haste in which the vaccines were produced might have negative side effects, so in response to this fear they went and absolved the pharmaceutical companies of all responsibility in case they did. He did all this while increasing the national deficit by 25%

>>15304182
We know.

>>15304006
The Gell-mann amnesia effect.
Wikipedia actually shut down the page for it because if people knew about it, they might figure out when they're being lied to

>>15303147
>My belief structure is based on distrusting everybody
>but when Trump said he got the vax, I trusted that for sure!
How do you know half these guys didn't get saline shots? And old faggot like Trump wouldn't be risking much by getting it anyway. He only has a few years of his life left one way or the other, and he no longer has to worry about things like losing his fertility or long term repercussions. This applies to pretty much all those powerful people, they're most all old enough that they could take a vax with serious long term side effects and still come out on top, while it's fucking poison to anybody who's still young.

So that's why I never let them vax me. I never even got tested, because in a few years if the revolutionary courts start going through records and finding people who tested positive but still refused the shot, I don't want to be on trial for bullshit murder by vax denial charges. Better for me to have plausible deniability and never know if I even ever had it. Which I probably didn't because I never got sick. Did this damn bug even exist in the first place, or was it a media induced mass hysteria driving people insane over normal flu symptoms? I honestly suspect the latter.

>>15295138
kino

>>15297523
>>no doc knows that vaccines contain neurotoxic aluminium or liposomes which are know to cause irritations and disease
The goal of an adjuvant is to cause irritation; things like aluminum or liposomes do this particularly well, and not at all in any amount that causes harm.
It's quite a bold claim that goes against 100 years of immunology to suddenly pretend like these are bad things.

>>15304144
>Basically, they engage with the knowing fiction because they fear losing touch with the mass psychosis hivemind and being ostracized.
They engage specifically because the situation was dragged out and threatened to never end, thus necessitating the "fight or flight" response on a societal level. Unfortunately "society" isn't run on paranoid crabs with fight or flight responses (at least not normally anyway). The negatives of the situation are laid out and promised based upon the actions of the crabs. They work their hardest to ensure that the promised collapse happens because every crab knows that each crab is in it for themselves and no one really wants this dance and pony show called "society" to continue on in such a broken perpetually fear riddled state.

The opportunity was presented for people to help the government machine kill itself so everyone grabbed a wrench and threw it in the spokes. I don't blame them, this nonsense has demonstrably gotten way out of hand and the people who started it deserve punishment. The real retards are the ones still buying into the garbage. You know, the ones still wearing masks and shilling vaccines thinking the crabs are not only selfish but also stupid. Fuck those retards, they didn't even try to get out of the bucket so they will be crushed under the weight of all the crabs.

>>15304182

>>15295138
Get your booster! Like charging a cellphone!

>>15304508
Adjuvants are harmful. Vaccines containing peanuts is literally why peanut allergies exist, and specifically why only millennials have peanut allergies and not genx nor zoomers.

>>15304508
Is there some paper that explores whether the ajduvants are or aren't harmful?

>>15305991
>some paper
Write one. One paper is as legit as another. It's all pseudo-science masturbation at this point in history.

>>15305974
Is there an app for that? Boostie apps!

>>15305991
You'll have to better define harmful, their main purpose is to rile up your immune system to create a quicker immune response.
The question you should be asking is if the benefits of an adjuvant outweigh the costs.

>>15305997
i do that, i also make my own scientific graphics.
its so easy to put lines and words and dots on a jpeg

>>15305991
no.
Will never go through peer review.

Because of "Holy grail" bias.
Also what is most important.
You MUST vaccinate children before you can establish any cognitive and health comparison.
So you max vax befor child can verbalize, walk and display any measurable qualities of motorics and cognition.

So you get them when they are 2 months old.
Pump them full of neurotoxic crap, and when anything happens say:
>oh yeah its just typical infant disease
>oh yeah its bad genetics
>oh yeah its Sudden infant deathy syndrom
>oh yeah its for sure not related to serum poisoning with alumunium hydroxide and aluminium phosphate 20 times the amount a healthy adult recives relative to his bodyweight
>oh yeah toxins are dependent on weight and proportion
>oh yeah but when it's in a vaccine 0.5mg of Aluminium compounds it is for everyone, proportional weight and distribution does not matter
>oh yeah we also don't have to do pharmocokinetics and pharmacodynamics for the adjuvants, because we declared them as "inactive ingredients"
>so fuck you
>if your child gets horrbly sick, retarded or dies you deal with the social and economic burden
>not my business
>I just vaccinate and congratulate

>>15304182
>>>/pol/

>>15309657

Was hilarious that the first vaccine given was given on live TV, and that woman collapsed just seconds after getting it.
Everybody be like, "fuck dat shit!" when it happened, and the left-wing pharma companies went into campaign mode trying to insist the "vaccines" were safe.

>>15311201
What did the deleted post say?

>>15295138
>FOIA document shows government anticipated mass vaccine injuries, then observed them from day one
And this surprises you why?

Nobody on /sci/ was dumb enough to get vaxed, right?

>>15314138

>>15304508
>100 years of immunology
Aluminum hasn't been used as an adjuvant for anywhere close to that span. Also, 'experts' HAVE NO CLUE HOW IT EVEN WORKS as an adjuvant, they just have theories. Also when they 'test' vaccines nowadays, the 'placebo' shots contain these adjuvants, they only remove what they call the active ingredients.

>>15295138
/cvg/ chads got vindicated again

>>15314076
>anticipate large influx to follow large influx because this isn't nearly as staggered as any other vaccine given the demand of people who just want to go back to normal
>this is a conspiracy
I mean, if the 360 was the only console and most people got one for free RROD would seem bigger than it was too

>>15306964
What's the fatal dosage for these adjuvant and why wouldn't mithraditism kick in at some point?

>>15316877
The health effects haven't been studied, and mithridatism is a myth. You can't build a resistance to metal poisoning.

>>15314403
So the "active ingredients" are what are killing millions and causing autism in tens of millions?

EVEN WORSE! That means it is INTENTIONAL!

>>15316881
>associating the rational resistance to untested MRNA meme vaccines with the facebook boomer "POLIO VACCINE CAUSED AUTISM IT NEVER EXISTED BEFORE THEN THAT'S WHY IT WAS NEVER DESCRIBED BACK IN THE TIME PERIOD WHEN THEY WEREN'T DOING THINGS LIKE CATEGORIZING MENTAL ILLNESS" nonsense
Classic well poisoning. You're Jewish, aren't you?

>>15316880
>You can't build a resistance to metal poisoning.

>>15316934
>You can't
that's correct. Your descendants can though.

>>15316885
Hello Jew Government Glowie.

>>15316979
So what's the problem?

>>15317100
you could have just said yes

>>15317105

>>15317121
is that her nose or did she steal the pyramid of cestius?

>>15317121
Holy shit thats a big nose

>>15318802
kike'd kek

>>15303147
>My belief structure is based on a distrust of everyone and everything.
No it isn't. That's me. I didn't take the jab, so obviously you're a half baked mockery of my own image.

>>15303147
>I took it as a calculated risk,
You need to learn the difference between calculate risk taking and recklessness. Its a fine line in some cases, in this case it was not, as "the virus" wasn't a threat. What was a threatened was your access to your regular income, you submitted to blackmail & now that it's known that you can be easily pushed around using that threat, it is likely to happen again.

>>15318866
Checked and correct.

>>15299479
Genociding them, Amalek.

>>15297500
The fact you have that comic saved is evidence that your intelligence, broadly speaking, is within a standard deviation below the mean.

>>15297680
Makes sense: can't engage in civics except for scrolling, can't learn software that's only marginally more complex than ms-paint. The way you do one thing is the way you do everything.

>>15316877
>why wouldn't mithraditism kick in at some point?
because it's fake and pseudoscience of the middleages.
Most likely, it embeds in the nervous system, and then creates some sort of Type IV allergic reaction.

Otherwise, your never functions would just be impaired.

Tired, shitty motoric skills, concentration problems, myalgia, fibromyaliga, chronic fatigue, migraines, MS, osteomyelitis.
It is just a hard to decompose neurotoxin.
If it gets into your enteric nervous system, you get inflamatory bowel syndromes.
This shit is even stated in the vaccine product inserts.

Elevated aluminium serum levels are also associated with osteomalacia and arthritis.
Similar to all degenrative issues or anomalies with bones and nerves related to all reactive metals, such as Arsenic, mercury, cadmium and antimony.

The best thing is, since the vaccines always compete against a old one. And it's never for safety, but for "non inferiority" purposes:
They tolerate with each release slighlty more adverse events, meaning, they increase the doses of aluminium in every new vaccine.

In 2004 the vaccines contained at max 0.3mg now it 0.6-0.725mg per shot.

>>15319092
A.I.'s save everything they come in contact with. Does that mean A.I. is even dumber than the dumbest human nogs?

>>15303111
jewish race mixing rhetoric

>>15319092
emotionally triggered

>>15304006
The Gell-mann amnesia effect.
Wikipedia actually shut down the page for it because if people knew about it, they might figure out when they're being lied to

>>15327018
Naws dawg we could never be .... oh shit, Beyoncebama be on da gram again!

>>15327229
lol

>>15314138
theres a lot of people on /sci/ who don't belong here, they like to pretend they're high iq even though they fall for stupid tricks like covid-19.
sad state of affairs

>>15328463

>>15324403
atheists are very emotional and irrational
comic saved for future reposting use

>>15321633
Something about that strawberry that I just cannot trust.

>>15331823

>>15331830
kek