/sci/ - Science & Math

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK THE FAA JUST FUCKING SEND IT ALREADY MY BALLS ARE SO BLUEEEE

>>15292740
Finish the launch table first.

Let's go!

>>15292742
shut the FUCK up with your launch table bullshit, the FAA could issue a license and in 24 hours all that scaffolding would come down

Good Janny!
>>15292742
looking nice. dunno why they built another fucking staircase. it's gonna need cladding.

>>15292750
It's not that easy in scaffoldery.

>>15292742
The biggest fucking joke Elon ever played was tricking people into believing space wasnt hard. The FAA and Biden arent as stupid as his acolytes though

>15292754
can you stop posting bait already? this thread is full of autists who will jump on it every time

>>15292754
It's harder than what Elon says, but easier than what NASA says.

>>15292758
so ULA?

>>15292762
Nope, ULA had some great ideas, like X-33 or ACES-based depots, but they are doing the bare minimum to continue their existence.

they're building another thing at the production site

>starbase has super smart hyper achivers
>and mexican laborers
>I'm in the middle of that
>there is no role for me
aaaa

what are the best accounts to follow on twatter

>>15292779
The current theory is a payload processing facility. It was in the environmental review but the location wasn't specified.

Will we ever see US-China cooperation again?

What happened to the last thread?

>>15292791
lazy faggot janny archived it because some people dared to post sci-fi moive suggestions

>>15292790
nyo

>>15292785
• middleearthmixr (not space flight but funny)
• AJ_FI (spacenews china guy)
• truthful_ast (has annoying likes that will flood your TL but posts cool stuff)
• LM_steve (came out as trans but still posts cool stuff)
• 11K25_energia
• depthsofwikipedia (not space flight but funny and interesting)
• DDAVISSPACEART (processes raw JPL data, he’s NASA’s go-to guy)
• betelbot (automated tracking of betelgeuse data)
• katlinegrey (russian, pretty much the primary source of roscosmos news inside the eastern bloc)
• brickmack
• cosmic_penguin
• russianspaceweb
• CNSpaceflight

Nice job you fucking idiots

"SSME is German tech" is a rabbithole

>>15292817
nigga post direct links, I don't want to search every one of those

https://twitter.com/VirtuallyNathan/status/1638519606066417664

it's just so pretty.
looks way better with the panels.
there will most probably also be panels around the bottom where the water pipe is. shit's gonna take so fucking long i cannot understand why they didn't start this earlier.

>>15292825
Starlink made its service available in Ukraine and shipped terminals to the country days after Russian forces invaded the nation last year, according to a March 16, 2022 report in The Mercury News.

A Starlink terminal set up inside a C-130J Super Hercules airlifter at Yokota allowed Klein to video conference with an airman who was using a Starlink terminal on Diego Garcia, an island more than 5,000 miles away in the Indian Ocean.

The system could be used by contingency response forces such as those who deployed to Afghanistan to evacuate U.S. troops and civilians in August 2021, Klein said after the demonstration.

“I was extremely impressed with the capability,” he told Stars and Stripes on Tuesday as he prepared to depart Yokota. “We are looking to give our units throughout the Pacific the ability to communicate with command-and-control entities. They are evolving to do that in support of agile combat employment.”

Agile combat employment is the ability to move aircraft rapidly to a network of smaller airfields. U.S. forces are honing agile combat employment skills in the Western Pacific to avoid being targeted by Chinese missiles in the event of war.

The Starlink systems cost $350 and deliver data at a rate of 120 megabytes per second under a subscription that costs $109 a month, Staff Sgt. Alejandro Flores, a client systems technician with the 730th, said after Monday’s demonstration.

>>15292835

Starlink works with the Air Force’s secure internet routers used for secret communication, he said.

The Air Force has its own satellite internet system called Hawkeye that’s a lot more expensive and slower, Flores added. A Hawkeye dish costs $250,000 and provides internet speeds of 4 megabytes per second, he said.

The downside of Starlink is that it is a commercial service and not controlled by the government, Flores said.

In September, Musk asked the Pentagon to fund Starlink services in Ukraine but later backtracked and said his company would continue providing the service for free, the BBC reported Oct. 15.

Starlink had become the connectivity backbone of Ukraine all the way up to the front lines, Musk tweeted on Feb. 1.

“This is the damned if you do part,” he wrote. “However, we are not allowing Starlink to be used for long-range drone strikes. This is the damned if you don't part."

>>15292835
>120 megabytes per second
i hope this is the journalist being retarded otherwise that "technician" needs fired asap

https://vocaroo.com/18mqEDCMQzrH

> Decreases periapsis 50 km in just 9 months

Sauce:
>https://www.brown.edu/news/2023-03-15/sbudnic

You guys told me 100 km was already Space.

Elon better strap some chutes to those starlink pieces of junk.

>>15292842
>almost a gigabit/s
What's your point? The price?

Jean Jacques Favier reportedly died, he was a payload specialist on Columbia for STS-78 in 1996. He's the first French astronaut to die.

>>15292866
that we know of

>>15292862
my point is that it's 120 mbit/s.
>inb4 nuh-uh
yes it is. they don't sell gigabit. the dishes might theoretically be capable of it but not without V2

>>15292796
Are you actually fucking serious? Janniggers still haven't learned their place even after /vt/ assblasted them...

>>15292711
>>15292717
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is some of the best sci-fi I've ever consumed; highly recommended even if you aren't a weeaboo. Realistic government conspiracies and coverups, excellent dub voice acting, impressively accurate (especially from a show made in 2002) predictions about internet culture and how mass connection would lead to ever easier means of information manipulation and soft control, and also the effects of automation and AI penetrating previously manual jobs. The military te/k/ is also really well researched and fleshed out - [spoiler](I know those don't work but really, spoilers ahead) there's even a scene where several satellites owned by different countries are hacked en-masse and deliberately deorbited, acting as ad-hoc janky brilliant pebbles to intercept an ICBM[/spoiler lol]

>>15292827
I liked the grungy pipe rat-nest, but I also liked starhopper more than anything until S24. Now the olm looks more like flight ready equipment and not cobbled-together prototype hardware. I wonder if onre of the FAA requirements is literally just "it has to look professional"

>>15292859
less reddit spacing more coherent posting
>You guys told me 100 km was already Space.
what did he mean by this?

>SH needs all of this shit to launch
>supposedly SS will take off on mars without any support infrastructure at all
what

>>15292881
>>without any support infrastructure at all
take your meds. they need a huge ass solar farm, sabatier plant and mining site on mars before they can produce enough propellant to send ONE ship back to earth.

>>15292817
Also For chinese space:
>raz_liu (bilingual)
>CNSAWatcher
>SegerYu (bilingual)
>DongFangHour

>>15292873
GITS:SAC also has a godlike 11/10 peak yoko kanno soundtrack. It's worth watching for that alone. Fun fact: it was the most expensive serialised animation ever made when it released.

> be at altitude where aurora occur
> 'I am in space!!'
lol
lmao even

v2 minis seem to be struggling btw. not in any danger at this altitude but that doesn't look like a normal orbit raising.

>>15292886
Reminder that this bootstrapping can only be achieved two ways:
1. substantial progress in humanoid robotics and their autonomous control (no you can't feasibly build all this with just construction vehicles)
2. a manned mission without assured return

>>15292866
That sick casio

>>15292881
>>15292886
would it be feasible to send one or multiple propellant tankers with full tanks and then land them and do a fuel transfer on mars? I know boil-off is a major problem but we've GOT cryocoolers designed specifically for spaceflight (JWST's is especially cool (ha!) but most of the interesting stuff is anti-vibration engineering autism to not mess with the optics)
between a fuckhueg solar array, mondo cryocoolers and some hydrologgs tier insulation I bet a tanker could retaun 90% or more of its starting fuel over the course of a mission. the tanker could evenbe parked in a mars sun synchronous orbit but on the dark side to avoid any solar heating, but it would need an RTG which might defeat the purpose

>>15292891
>cyberbird
HNNNGH

>>15292891
Oh yeah I forgot Seger Yu. Lol I can’t tell if he’s an actual chinaman, an expat, a foreign exchange student, or what. He will post/like very pozzed china stuff but then do the same with pro-western stuff. He’s cool though

>>15292891
also
>Cosmic_Penguin

>>15292927
Yeah that is true. Either use an expendable Starship tug or a special electric tug vehicle to send a full Starship with heat shield and cryocoolers to a mars encounter.
That will be an assured return vehicle for the crew even if they don't manage to bootstrap propellant production.
You might need two though depending on how much is burnt during landing.

>>15292940
No okay it's not that easy. You can't land a full Starship. As you said it would have to be stored in orbit. But then the question is how do you get from the surface to orbit?

>>15292873
Incredibly based and Shirow pilled. The guy is mildly artistic but good god can he draw. He would have notes in the margins about how a given frame was technically unrealistic because of reasons X Y and Z but it looks cooler this way or it fits the scene better.

>>15292957
Wait what I’m confused, what are you referring to? I’m NTA but this sounds cool

>>15292948
>You can't land a full Starship.
On Mars you probably could because Mars is a glorified dwarf planet with gravity to match.

Sickening sinophile snakes slithering sneakily slaughter /sfg/

>>15292948
they have to be able to land with some significant amount of mass, else how are they going to get any equipment at all down to the surface? remember mars gravity is weaker than a liberal male and consequently a starship with no superheavy can go SSTO. Even if they have to land two or three tankers and then leave a fourth (fifth etc.) in orbit to refuel a second time it's still eminently possible to use entirely earth-sourced fuel for return trips during the first few missions while ISRU is set up and bugs are ironed out.
>>15292970 he's talking about masamune shirow, the artist of the ghost in the shell manga and had major input on the movie and (I believe) GitS:SAC

>>15292886
Could you set up a forward base on Phobos and mine propellant there? Lets you get your bearings before you dive down the gravity well.

>>15292970
Masamune Shirow, the writer for Ghost in the Shell and Appleseed that the shows are based on. Pic related.

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1638539818798809088

Falcon 9 book? hmm

soiboy scifi series suggesters sinisterly shifting /sfg/ sageworthy

>>15292993
It's like you were born yesterday

>>15292998
anime faggots can't resist advertising their gay childrens cartoons in every thread, as if they're proud of being immature and mentally stunted.
anime is an extremely common midwit enthusiasm on par with watching nfl football

>>15292988
Yeah that sounds right. Really gotta get to orbit and figure out that refueling.
There's so much work still to do and I'm afraid they're not moving fast enough.

>>15292784
Pretty sur those mexican laborers are welding steel 16h per day, they might as well also be hyper achievers.

>>15293019
Those Mexicans are going to Mars. You'll need welders there also.

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1638537334881759232

there is a video in the tweet with banger music

>>15293001
I know he writes books from time to time but wasnt aware a new one was going to be specifically about falcon 9

>>15292998
>>15292982
seethe

>>15293024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzA0lIwh19c

11h until stream start

>>15292825
Well why the fuck can't is use mine for teams anymore. Niggers want more money and the quality went down.

based
>Plasma magnet sail chads
>NTRchads (who understand the political hurdles that nuclear would have to overcome)
>Titan appreciators
>Starlink supporters (who understand that it is necessary to fund Mars colonization)
>People who mock seething astronomers crying about muh night sky
>Massive lunar radio telescope on the dark side of the moon supporters
>Lunar centripetal force induced parabolic liquid-mirror telescopes connoisseurs
>FOCALchads who will allow direct imaging exoplanets
>Starship militarizers who will attach SAMs and transport ODSTs to any corner of the earth in half an hour
>Jovian moon subsurface ocean explorers
>Those who acknowledge that ITS had the superior aesthetics and BFR had the superior name
>Those who know that while Elon may give an optimistic date at times to inspire his workers and the general public, he will ultimately deliver and is the successor of von Braun
>Mars and Titan drone supporters
>skylab reminiscers
>Inflatable module chads
>Centrifugal force gravity orbital station useful to measure the effects of less than 1G but greater than microgravity on the human body constructors
>Starship 1km long tether for artificial gravity chads
>Mars independence supporters
>Artificial magnetic fields for deployment on surface bases of jovian moons
>Mars lava tube settlers

>>15293019
>16h per day
they have at least two shifts so that's impossible.

>>15293058
cringe
>O'neillfags
>Prooonters
>Doomers
>"Why go to space when we have problems on Earth"fags/ climate doomers
>Venusian Cloud Balloon posters
>Aerospike truthers
>SSTO truthers
>Balloon/ airplane/ Mt. Everest launch advocates
>Nuclear-only 'solar will never work on Mars' autists
>anarcho-primitivists return to monkefags
>flat earthers/ space is fake posters
>UFO/ tictac believers
>space elevator/ carbon memeotube/ launch loop mega structure tards
>lavatubers
>transhumanists/ 'bro why explore space just become a machine'fags
>don't change the planet, change the human genome posters
>terraformers
>paraterraformers
>Muh atmosphere muh Mars has no magnetic field alarmists
>'Musk is a fraud' TSLA shorters
>oldspace boomers
>BO "slow and steady"tards
>Ironic shitposting Boing/ SLS/ Lockmart shills
>Unironic Boing/ SLS/ Lockmart cost-plus defenders
>Butthurt Russians/ Chinese nationalists
>Europoor ESA/ Arianne defenders
>4ASS posters
>"Why send people a robot will do a better job"tards
>EMDrive truthers
>Planetary protection never explore anywhere smoothbrains
>FTL or busters
>Suspended animation/ generation ship fags
>Zubrinite mini-starship demanders
>jellobaby alarmists
>You have to go to the moon firsters
>/r/SpaceXMasterrace redditors
>"A private corporation shouldn't control spaceflight, we need an accountable government"shills
>Space travel is white privilege/ colonialism/ racism and SpaceX and NASA need more diversity fags
>anthropomorphized rocket anime waifu posters
>dolphin sexers
>Sea Dragon autists
>Orion autists

>>15293063
>Unironic Boing/ SLS/ Lockmart cost-plus defenders
>Butthurt Russians/ Chinese nationalists
>Europoor ESA/ Arianne defenders
defending the worst aspects is cringe, but rockets and spaceflight are always cool.

Ze Ariane Reutilisable-Rakete

>>15293060
Shift #1: 0:00 - 16:00
Shift #2: 8:00 - 24:00

>>15293058
>>15293063
>"You can only like what I SAY you can like!"
Anon (you) were the real cringe all along

>>15293063
Terraformers belong in Based

>>15293063
>>Balloon/ airplane/ Mt. Everest launch advocates
always Everest, never Mount Kenya or Chimborazo

https://spacenews.com/virgin-orbit-begins-incremental-return-to-work-as-it-seeks-new-funding/
>However, Reuters reported March 22 that the company is in talks with venture fund Matthew Brown Companies to raise up to $200 million through a private share placement. That deal could close as soon as March 24.

Well, they might not be dead yet

>>15293105
They absolutely do not.

>>15292790
I would like to, less-with-us-or-against us international bullshit would be nice

smallsat launchers are truly destined for failure.
the fixed costs and even r&d and are very similar to a bigger rocket yet with an equal percentile of margin you make less absolute profit.
thus your smallsat launcher needs to fly way more often than the big rockets to even have a chance of keeping your business afloat.

>>15292835
>The Starlink systems cost $350 and deliver data at a rate of 120 megabytes per second under a subscription that costs $109 a month
If the military is paying for it. Shouldn't it be at least four times that?

>>15293148
Big rockets amortize fixed costs. Rapid cadence amortizes fixed costs. Reusability amortizes hardware costs.
Starship is the future.

>>15293063
dolphins are hot and they're smart enough to get it

The lack of Venus probes enrages me >:(

>>15293165
Think of it as the free sample.
It's intended to bait them into the fully integrated Starshield rapid defense service suite for fifty thousand dollars per terminal per month.

>>15293058
>NTR
>based
Stop reading there

>>15293145
;_;

>>15293058
>based
>>Mars lava tube settlers
>>15293063
>cringe
>>lavatubers

>>15293170
Dearth of probes to the outer planets is worse. Poor Neptune. Poor Uranus. Poor Saturn, even.
Transit times being what they are, it would be the mid 2030s - 2040s before anything new would arrive.

>>15293019
>mexican laborers
>doing hard work
Pick one
kek

>>15293058
>>15293063

>>15293058
>>15293063
all me btw

>>15293184
what's the problem

>>15293211
corporate needs you to find the difference

>>15293190
Probes should be manufactured in Jovian orbit and launched to the outer planets from there.
>inb4 there's no cleanrooms there
There's no cleanrooms there YET

>>15293230
>Probes should be manufactured in Jovian orbit
outta what? unicorn hooves?

>>15293230
Sounds like a job for half-a-century-in-the-future man

I will be unable to watch today's scrub because I'm sleeping.

>>15293234
Mine and smelt metal from the local moons, build factories that pump out manufactured components like engines, fuel tanks, circuit boards etc.
>>15293236
In half a century zoomers of today will be boomerish politicians promising a moon colony by the 2080s.

>>15293244
>implying that zoomers will be in power at all
You are black

>>15293244
It's a pretty tall order to create a whole supply chain for spacecraft starting with "mine ore."

>>15293063
Wtf is a proooonter?

>>15293250
No I'm not, and despite their best efforts boomers aren't immortal yet, at least not most of them. In 50 years kids who are 15-20 now will be in their 60s-70s, prime age for occupying an office and collecting bribes.
>>15293254
It's a tall order to industrialize a forested continent crawling with native bow-armed fauna too but here we all are. You have to start somewhere or you never start at all.

>>15293257

>>15293168
based and that one thread on eightchan dot moe pilled
(8 instead of eight)

Whos ready for another T-0.5 second Relativity abort?!

>>15293063
>4ASS posters
One of the only good things here. Cope

>>15293063
>/r/SpaceXMasterrace redditors
I own it .

>>15293341
It's time

>>15293341
>>15293372
Relativity has almost as many aborts as the average black girl

https://twitter.com/thePrimalSpace/status/1638586465419501569

>>15292753
Elon himself would go with a hammer and take it out in a couple of hours.

>>15293285
I'm almost afraid to ask...

>>15292903
Could be that as these are new there is a longer trial period where they are evaluating things such as the new thrusters. They may not want to raise them up yet, so if a problem is found they can deorbit sooner, rather than boosting them up and finding a problem.

Oh, that's really cool. I have awoken to a new day, and the FAA still hasn't given approval.

>>15293058
You forgot to put GlushkoCHADS in based and Korolevtards in cringe

>>15293401
this will be the one according to L2

>>15293448
when is FAA approval per ell twu

>>15293456
it will happen when the weather cools.

Orbital Launch Mount is complete!!!
Orbital Launch Mount is complete!!!
Orbital Launch Mount is complete!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LExgFjs471k

They are taking down the scaffolding as we speak.
Where is the fucking permit FAA? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>15293462
Biden will greenlight the license once Trump is arrested to take the spotlight off the case. I have no basis for this information.

FAA anon here. bosses have cut the team by half and are making us fill out 'risk mitigation assessments' for privately operated heavy lift vehicles. We're basically trying to look for blindspots in current procedures and regulations that could cause a disaster. higher ups are really looking for results and I'm going to present some of our findings in a few days. I think you guys are going to have to wait a few more months minimum before we have this all sorted out.

>>15293462

>>15293501
where do you live? I want to send you some chocholate and candy

>>15293501
You should burn down your office to speed things up.

>>15293501

>>15293501
post cropped nametag

>>15293501
Kill yourself, bomb your office

https://twitter.com/TheMarsSociety/status/1638616540202278914

>>15293631
There's nothing worth protecting in Mars

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1638616130356133888

>>15293462
>They are taking down the scaffolding as we speak.
fake news

>>15293636
it's over

>>15293631
>Under existing policies, no human mission would be allowed to venture to the surface of Mars. NASA allows no more than 300,000 spores (single-celled organisms) to accompany robotic missions that land on Mars. Human bodies, in comparison, contain trillions of microorganisms. It will be impossible for human missions to achieve the same level of microbial cleanliness achieved for robotic landers.

>What can be done to take reasonable planetary protection precautions, but also enable a human presence on Mars and other interplanetary destinations? Several years ago, NASA began to address this question. In 2018, the NASA Advisory Council, at the behest of its Regulatory and Policy Committee, recommended that NASA review its planetary protection policies, stating that the current rules, based on guidelines issued by the Committee for Space Research (COSPAR), would exclude the prospect of human exploration (specifically Mars) and some potential commercial activities.

>In response, NASA issued two Interim Directives regarding planetary protection policy for the Moon and Mars. The lunar directive lowered the contamination risk level of the Moon. Except for lunar Arctic regions and Apollo landing sites, no planetary protection requirements would be needed for human missions to the Moon since it is entirely exposed to the vacuum of space.

lol who comes up with these retarded policies

>>15293501
You are not real.

>>15292817
>LM_steve (came out as trans
I should have seen this coming
Its a genocide of autists

>>15293652
autists seem to be especially prone to this brainwashing campaign for some reason

>>15293655
Its a lifetime of being bullied leading to being predominantly on the internet and wishing for a community to be a part of

>>15293666
There but for the grace of God go I, poor lad.

>>15292736
does someone know when the flight is happening ?

>>15293019
>laborers are welding steel 16h per day, they might as well also be hyper achievers.
hyper wage-slaves

>>15293655
The fact that it's actually possible to convince someone to sterilize themselves is amazing. I'm pretty convinced that we're going through some kind of minor population bottleneck within first world countries, but I have no clue what the environment is selecting for. Ugly fertility doctors and elon musk as far as I can tell. Good news for spaceflight at least

>>15293666
>Its a lifetime of being bullied leading to being predominantly on the internet and wishing for a community to be a part of
this doesn't always lead to thinking you're a woman

>>15293700
>The fact that it's actually possible to convince someone to sterilize themselves is amazing
Same with the recent push for voluntary euthanasia, I'm old enough to remember Jack Kevorkian being a public villain. Is he still alive? It'd be ironic if he killed himself.

>>15293712
Trannies give an environment where youre constantly showered in praise and everyone is accepted (as long as you mutilate yourself). A lot of their discourse is also literally
>oh you do [thing]? Thats a sign of being trans and youre an egg
>i also had problems with [thing] and transitioning helped me
Basically its a cult

>>15293712
To add to >>15293717 they use literal cult tactics to get people in
https://bigthink.com/the-present/four-cult-recruitment-techniques/

>>15293714
>recent push for voluntary euthanasia
but that's kinda based. People should be able to take their own life if they want to.

>>15293501
Just lie and say all bases have been covered and it should be a client-by-client basis with each company receiving its own independent launch safety rating based on how mature it is. SX being a 10 and Blue Retard being a 0

>>15293725
They're welcome throw a toaster inside a bathtub or jump off a cliff. No need to waste taxpayers' money on that.

>>15293730
trust me anon a whole lot more resources are spent dealing with a terminal illness than euthanasia

>>15293717
Heavens Gate prefigured this what with the castration and suicide

>>15293725
You can, you don't need a clinic to do it either.
On Mars the elderly will simply be able to walk outside and expire on the surface, and will be forced to by a certain age.

>>15293712
The trans-industrial complex uses the same strategies that the cosmetic surgery industry uses. You artificially cultivate a sense of insecurity and then you offer to sell a product to fix the problem they caused.

First, they promote an unachievable standard of female beauty, then they say that the only thing standing between women and happiness is liposuction and a boob-job. These days you start by telling insecure kids that the normal dysphoria everyone feels going through puberty is wrong and because it's scary they should do everything to avoid it, all the while pushing them towards a lifetime subscription to hormones and a full-package maxi-circumcision because that'll totally make them feel happy and secure in their own bodies! Every one of those kids is a multi-million dollar payday.

A lot of the things wrong with modern society make more sense once you really come to terms with the fact that big pharma is run by some of the most insanely evil reptile people this world has ever seen. All the more reason to escape this planet while there's still time.

>>15293732
anon, heavens gate revolutionized spaceflight, you'll be embarrassed when they return from Hale Bopp.

>>15293740
I will (not) take the pills.

>>15293740
>once you really come to terms with the fact that big pharma is run by some of the most insanely evil reptile people this world has ever seen.
source or I don't believe it

>>15293745
Adderall is the only pill you need

>>15293745
brave new world shit

>>15293744
>Hale Bopp
That crashed into the Moon

>>15293746
The same pharmaceutical companies that make the antiretroviral drugs used to treat AIDS spent millions of dollars lobbing California politicians to make knowingly infecting a person with HIV a misdemeanor instead of a felony that would send you to jail. This is because letting a bug-spreader walk with a slap on the wrist was the quickest way to make new customers.

Like I said, evil.

>>15293764
Well that had to be embarrassing for all the transcended cult members onboard, now they have to hang around the moon forever.

>>15293768
They've reincarnated as tardigrades

>>15293746
>In the mid-1980s, when Bayer's Cutter Laboratories realized that their blood products, the clotting agents Factor VIII and IX, were contaminated with HIV, the financial investment in the product was considered too high to destroy the inventory. Bayer misrepresented the results of its own research and knowingly supplied hemophilia medication tainted with HIV to patients in Asia and Latin America, without the precaution of heat treating the product, recommended for eliminating the risk. As a consequence, thousands who infused the product tested positive for HIV and later developed AIDS.

>>15293732
Older Nike fonts go hard. Also I propose Andes as the official font for 4ASS related signage and rocket livery

>>15293801

>>15293801
I, anonymous, second the motion. It's a good font.

>>15293791
>>15293766
alright that really is evil

Someone ask the AI art gizmo for art deco and art nouveau spacecraft

>>15293814
This one kind of looks like a spaceship.

>>15293816
Is this a spaceplane?

>>15293832
it certainly meets the definition

SLS UNBOXXING!!!

>>15293740
>cosmetic surgery industry uses
yeah looks how utterly dominate they are in south korea. basically every woman at least gets the jaw surgery there. insane

>>15293768
fugg, I have to get in touch with the heaven's gate ground team (stay team?). Maybe they will help me spiritually ascend to the moon. I will be a space ghost/ET.

>>15293843
>NASA needs a tightly sealed container to safely transport RS-25
lol

The ecliptic is a space plane.


Also, happy March equinox bros.

>>15293853
*ruds*

>>15293863
Never happened during ascent ;)

Consider: Solid rockets, with aerospike nozzles.

Why are people like this?

>>15292750
You were talking similar bullshit in 2022 and SpaceX is still not ready to launch.

>>15293898
>bigot
There it is, cult member. That's a hit-squad account. They harass.

How can I utilize AI to make me an astronaut?
Ideally before the upcoming moon mission so I can join that.

>>15293908
Start with the Greeks.

>>15293911
Do they have a space program?

>>15293914
Yes

>>15293908
Just ask it to make it happen. AI is a genie now, haven't you heard?

>>15293919
>>15293920
Thank you!

I'm in the process of interviewing at Blue Origin. It sounds like I'll be working R&D, setting up test cells and testing parts and materials.

>>15293814
I can't right now, but I will keep you in mind when I can.
Anything more specific?

>>15293955
Make astronaut a big titty tomboy.

>>15293886
Why

>>15293963
Faggot

2 hours till SpaceX is debunked
https://youtu.be/G0lPF-O7B7U

>>15293975
Liking women makes me a faggot?

>>15293991
You are black. You are the blackest nigger I’ve ever seen.
DEBOOOOOONKED

>>15294000
Liking women dressed like men makes you a faggot.

>>15294006
Why are clothes so important to you?

>>15294001
Think about it another way, anon. This is the only guy able to make those deep analysis videos.

>>15293886
>no liquid fuel for active cooling of center body
Bad idea unless your chamber stagnation temperature is super low, which is definitely not ideal for performance.

>>15294035
NTA and just playing devil’s advocate; You could always make it ablative. Or run it as a hybrid solid engine with LOX or something

>>15294035
>stagnation temperature
what's stagnation temperature. Also the aerospike could be made of graphite

>>15293991
I've been saying this for a while. Clearly whatever Starship ends up being, it isn't the design we have now. I don't mean externally, I mean internally. Over time SpaceX has silently been chipping away at the payload volume and then the overall diameter of payloads. Then the actual realized size of the payloads due to issues with conjuring up a loading bay that can actually be opened and isn't a massive joke. Right now I am pretty sure that the total volume they promised is about a third of what it was just three years back, and they are reticent to discuss or show any form of payload bay opening that isn't a slit or an aperture that doesn't open much more than a fifth or sixth of the vehicle's height and doesn't have the ability to pass through objects roughly the diameter of the vehicle.

Why is the FAA so evil? let the man launch his rocket if he wants it.

>>15294077
>the aerospike could be made of graphite
That's likely going to ablate/erode super quickly when surrounded by combustion products. Aside from ablation effects, an bell nozzle transfers heat into the air (or radiates into vacuum) around it, which contributes to lowering the temp. Meanwhile, the heat applied to a plug nozzle has nowhere to go but its structure. I've worked on engines with similar geometries before, and without actively cooling the center body, they can't run for very long.

>>15294104
Low IQ post. They recently uprated it to 150 tons to LEO from 100.
The slit is for Starlink. Starlink is most important for now then refueling. They don't do things that aren't critical path.

>>15294159
We have seen more than the slit. We have also seen the shutter. Pac Man mouth is never happening. Shuttle bay system isn't either. Further, on the volume front, a total fourth of the interior space is essential useless due to it being where the ship begins to taper too much for anything that won't fold/isn't designed to take up the maximum interior volume. And then if you go back to just a few years ago you will find that definitively that the interior volume used to be much larger. You've fallen for the tonnage = volume fallacy, dumbass. FH isn't constrained by tonnage, it's constrained by volume. The same is true here. The only case where that won't bare out is with refueling where the volume taken up by 150 tonnes of fuel is functionally nothing.

>>15293140
So no terraforming, and no paraterraforming either, so that means no domes of any size.
You want to live in a tin can all your life?

>mogs starship

>>15294273
There are funny shitposts and then there are ones that are so far removed from reality that they aren’t even worth joking about. You have lunar ISRO. That’s it. Everything else about this piece of shit is gay, even if it does look cool from the outside

>Aerospike spaceplane or VTVL core
>two reusable VTVL side boosters that crossfeed into core
>At launch all engines fire and contribute to thrust
>second stage engines are not deadweight until MECO like in vertical stack.

Technically the most efficient way to do it, the advantage of SS/SH method is maybe more rapid re-integration.

>>15293725
That's not what this is about. It's very clearly a new frontier of grooming vulnerable people into self destruction.

>>15294273
based
>>15294281
cringe

>>15293898
Elon Derangement Syndrome (EDS)
Many such cases!

>>15293975
It's not that - the AI has to include big tittie anime girls in its output or it wont work

It's over...

>>15293131
>previously invested in Astra
>now bailing out Virgin Orbit
I have a feeling this Matthew Brown fella may be a retard

https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1638619879535157255
Chris Gebhardt, one of the chief NSF sois, is going to SpaceX

>>15294347
Is he going to run the shill farm or begin an experimental chat-enabled stream for superchats?

>>15294347
oh no
if I see him for even a millisecond on the SpaceX streams I'm going to die

>>15294272
Not a tin one but otherwise yes

>>15294354
>You're looking at a live view of the first-ever orbit-capable Starship launch system as it awaits its maiden flight at the top of the hour
>My name is Chris Gebhardt and I'm the head of communications here at SpaceX

>>15294330
starting

>>15294296
Eno is kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ71NUL9Cp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTxkLGBkcO0

>>15294362
>O'Neill fags: Cringe

>>15294378
I'm a spinhab chad and some gravity well dwelling fags opinion ain't shit to me

Hard R third try in an hour

>>15294425
*1 hour until their T-3:00 stream starts and they just repeat the same shit and show trans people in front of a camera with some small booba bimbos talking about printed metal

From 4 days ago, enhanced sequence Mars Helicopter SOL 729 showing liftoff dust: >>>/wsg/5018091
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXQnizmXvaY

>>15294433
I don't really believe this whole "near-vacuum atmosphere on Mars"

>>15294442
near-vacuum = you die of decompression before you die of asphyxia

>>15294433
Holy shit lmao. I shit on JPL because they are eternally robot-mars, but I can’t deny they do great things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEQmDqdERAM
Relativity already holding

>>15294489
https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1638711127197491202
>We're currently monitoring strong upper level winds and will be holding at T-45:00. The start of our livestream will be delayed. Stay tuned as we await an update from the next weather ballon.

>>15294482
>$80 million for a drone that flies in thin air
You are easily impressed

ready for the terran rud

>>15294492
>proonters are now baloooning to delay the inevitable investoor pullout when the launch fails

>>15294523
I want to see it pop along a layer boundary

>proonted rocket stream
>/sfg/ is fucking dead

>>15294550
The stream isn't even live for another twelve minutes and the launch won't happen for almost 30 minutes after that at the earliest; it's more likely to abort repeatedly than to take off straight away, as well.

>>15294482
JPL was based for making the Voyagers.

Terran 1 Good Luck, Have Fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C9YumTd1K0

>>15294573
Max Qute!

>>15292736

>>15294531
>I want to see it pop along a layer boundary
yeah after getting a fdm printer i am not really that confident in relativity anymore

>Hold
Like clockwork.

>IT'S ANOTHER RANGE VIOLATION
HOW

time for kaboom

>>15294590
lol I remember when I made that

UUUGGGHHH I'M HOOOOLDIIING

*violates your range*

MINE THE HARBOR
NO THREAT TO BOATS IF BOATS ALREADY DEAD

>>15294616
>tranime
Back to /lgbt/

>get a notice to stay clear of area
>sail into it anyways for some fishing
do boat boomers really?

>>15294624
Yes really its more of an FL tradition.

>>15294623
Back to >>>/pol/

So another scrub from fuel temp issues, I guess?

>>15294641
$20 says so

If it gets delayed by so much as 30 mins I’m fucking going to sleep. Fuck this stupid rocket

>inb4: OH WOW UMMMMMM IM HEARING WE ARE SCRUBBING FOR TODAY PLS CHECK TWATTER FOR MORE UPDATES
Surely at some point it becomes more of a burden to have an old decrepit POS on the pad versus just building a new one

>>15294647
Faggot, this is real technology stop being a stupid anti 3D printing nigger

>>15294647
Lol i just woke up, but going back to sleep
Not worth it to fuck with your sleep rhythm for this scrubfest

>>15294650
>I-its real tech, trust me bro
Brah

>>15294648
>building a new one
It took them seven years to get here, you really think that they can just whip up another one that fast?
Muskylunge proved that if you want to use metal 3d printing focus on the engine where you can otherwise just weld big metal rings. Take it from someone in the industry it ain't a panacea

>>15294655
>panacea
Wut

>>15294657
Read a fucking book /sfg/ jesus christ.

>>15294657
Open a dictionary nigger

>Hodl

screw this. i sleep.

>>15294659
>>15294660
I consider myself pretty well-versed in english but i’ve literally never heard this shit in my life. What the fuck. Is this a common word?!

>>15294669
Not anymore, everyone's personal lexicon is steadily shrinking, I hate it.

>>15294669
>Is this a common word
No, but I wouldn't considered you to be "well-versed in English" if you weren't able to recognize it.

>>15294672
I feel retarded for not knowing it. I’ll add it to the deck

>>15294672
Lexicon? wtf

>>15294676
I’m going to conduct an IRL poll tomorrow and see how many coworkers/family members are familiar with it. I’ve never heard it used in my life

Another hold kek

>>15294679
Diction

>>15294669
Yes, quite common in some context I guess and words fall in and out of favour
English has a massive amount of words, you need to check unkown words every now and then (especially if you start reading stuff outside your normal context/interest)

>>15294691
I feel like everyone’s taking the mick right now. I have not heard it in all of my life lmao

>>15294695
You need to read more

LIVE
https://youtu.be/2C9YumTd1K0

>>15294573
Live!

>>15294669
>I consider myself pretty well-versed in english but i’ve literally never heard this shit in my life. What the fuck. Is this a common word?!
It's not a common word and not one you'll run into in conversational English, but it's far from unknown.

>>15294669
>I consider myself pretty well-versed in english
Well you consider wrong
Unless you're an ESL

>>15294688
Diction is not a synonym for lexicon. Diction is about the ordering of words, whereas lexicon is about the words themselves. Two people operating with the same lexicon could have entirely different diction.

>>15294695
it's usually used in the context of "X is no panacea" so it really only has that specific idiomatic usage at this point. The word means "a cure-all" but it's only ever used in to point out that such things don't exist.

>>15294701
Yeah I don’t expect it to be “common” per se, but more along the lines of something like “defenestration’ or ‘penultimate’ or something, where the common NPC would have no idea but someone with an above-average vocabulary would be familiar with. I’ve only asked one person so far and they had no idea what it meant. I’ll call my dad tomorrow and ask him if he knows. He reads way more than me. I’ll laugh if he doesn’t know

>>15294695
>taking the mick
hmm
Maybe it's more rare in the UK?
It's not common in regular speech but it's common for a fancy word

>>15294711
See >>15294710, panacea is one of those words that no longer is used outside of one specific expression. It was originally an alchemical word.
Similar to how there's "disgruntled" but no "gruntled"

>trolling with non-existent words
/sfg/ is dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuDquo76490

>>15294677
>I’ll add it to the deck
If you're an ESL you shouldn't feel bad, it's certainly a niche word. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't come up again in the next year or so.
However, if you're an AMERICAN and you couldn't use panacea in a sentence, I would bet you haven't read a book this year. Please just read something you borderline illiterate fucks. It can even be sci-fi, just read a fucking book. I'm embarassed for you. If you can't think of something, read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, The Sands of Mars, Rendezvous with Rama, or The Relativity of Wrong. I'll expect a report on it next month.
You will not be allowed on Mars if you cannot fucking READ

>>15294711
>penultimate
There's no way people over the age of 16 don't know what this means.

>>15294669
I had a 780 verbal SAT score on my first and only try so I don't begrudge you, brainlet

>/sfg/ - English Etymology

meanwhile, T-3m just did the engine wiggle

SHOW ME YOUR TAKEOFF FACE

>>15294728

>>15294724
>>penultimate
>There's no way people over the age of 16 don't know what this means.
They think it means "last, but like for real"
If you tell them "actually it means second to last" they think you're being pedantic, like how the 21st century starts in 2001 not 2000

We are going

>bunch of ice just exploded
wtf

>Clear tells you good luck have fun

>>15294695
It's a fairly common word. There are plenty of abstruse words that I avoid using in order to not seem like a pretentious fart-sniffer, but panacea is a word that I'd generally expect my interlocutor to know.

LUNCH!

woosh

>ROCKET MAN
>BLASTING OFF TO SPACE TONIGHT

liftoff bois

The plume looks great

Still a chance if explodes RIGHT

pretty

>"EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
bitch shut up

Jump scare

Damn that's cool. Good job relativity.

I don't think I've ever seen a rocket have a problem at maxQ
Seems like a meme at this point

Rip S2 failure

Ignition where

it's over

oh no no no no

Fuck you, stage two!

Stage 2 failure strikes again

it's over

Why does second stage ignition seem so difficult? H3 and Terran 1 both failed at S2 start

Velocity was dropping right before they cut it off

>>15294764
S2 obviously never lit

Anomaly

>>15294765
it lit for like a second

as we previously discovered in the h3 launch, it's not that easy in stage 2ery

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>15294762
You can't test it thoroughly unlike S1.

I actually have a feeling Starship OFT-1 makes it to at least MECO desu

IT'S OVER
HUMANITY WILL NEVER REACH SPACE
FOREVER TO DIE IN A PLANET OF ROCK AND SOOT AND SALT

>H3 has a fucked up stage two during maiden flight
>Terran 1 has a fucked up stage two during maiden flight
>Starship is about to make it's maiden flight
oh no

lmao what is with second stage ignition failure recently

>>15294774
They expect one of us in the wreckage brother

>>15294769
yeah, welcome to the stage 2 failure club

>>15294762
it happens in vacuum and microgravity

>>15294765
Looks like a prolonged startup attempt that failed. Not sure how accurate the velocity readout is, but it rose slightly during the initial ignition

>"good test guys"
>"While we may not have made it all the way today,-"
>space is hard

Space is hard.

Well, at least Starship can still be the first methane rocket to get to orbit

>>15294777
Observed

>>15294782
It definitely tried to fire up; you can see some blue flame for a second

>>15294762
Astra also had major second stage problems with Rocket 3. Vacuum test chambers for engines are really expensive so most don't do it. This is why most early upper stages were solid or hypergolic and early Centaur was such a mess. The Saturn V was remarkable for having SIX air lighted vacuum hydrolox engines.

>Space is hard

>Vulcan maiden launch next

>>15294698
godammit, quit making Clear cry you rocket bastards!

RIP proooonted rogget

>>15294762
>failed S2
You can add the last LauncherOne attempt to that, and Zhuque-2, Vega-C, and Epsilon from last year...

Starship will be the first methane rocket to reach orbit.
Musk wills it

Ship 24 hasn’t had a static fire for several months. Bros I’m worried…..

Space x would absolutely mog the entire rocket industry if they manage to get into orbit with starship the first try

>>15294698
how much would clear cry if she saw a crewed launch explode live?

all webms are rendering

>>15294705
i'm ESL and I know it lmao

>Space is hard
>Its actually not
holy shit...

>>15294724
Literally no one reads books anymore

>>15294724
>a niche word
A what?

Would /sfg/ be happy or sad if Starship OFT clears the pad but fails to make orbit?

>>15294836
A symptom of the decline of western civilization

>>15294844
More confused than anything else. We know the Raptor works.

>>15294844
Fucking thrilled. The higher it explodes, the more people who get to enjoy the firework.

>>15294848
Dozens of them working together and feeding them all without inlet pressure issues while under acceleration is more difficult.

>>15294844
Happy if it gets to stage sep without any problem.
Even if they fail it shouldn't be long until the next attempt. The next iterations are already built, a lot of the complexity is in the pad and they have all the paperwork done.

Look at her go!

>>15294730
Anyone who read A Series of Unfortunate Events knows the right definition of that word.

Methalox night launches look good.

>>15294844
Depends. I'd absolutely be happy with a second stage failure, but that's much less likely than shenanigans earlier in the flight. It's still categorically in the testing phase and I really would just like to see it launch as often as possible since there will almost certainly be a mixed bag of successes and failures.

Calling it now, Superheavy will have some kind of catastrophic failure around max Q and Starship will cruise out of the fireball directly into orbit, in a fitting reversal of this spate of second-stage failures.

>>15294792
>Centaur second stage
It will be fine

>>15294730
Or how someone saying they "could care less" is generally a pointless statement, and then they pretend it was sarcasm.

>>15294863
will starship look like this?

>>15294882
They should, yeah.

https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1638628644334493696

posting this here again even though I think someone posted about it in the thread already

What companies do you fags think will still stand/succeed in 20 years time? State why if you feel like it. Also, what is picrel doing? Havent heard much

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/spacex-plans-new-funding-with-backing-from-saudi-uae-investors

>>15294867
>”A large scale methane accelerator will be constructed. This will launch suspension pods carrying the colonization forces.”

>>15294894
UAE dipping their toes in to spaceflight is cool, personally Sultan AlNeyadi is the only ISS fag I’ve been keeping tabs on. The more money in spaceflight the better, even if the chinks get it done first atleast we wont be dicking around in LEO with some stupid little satellites.

>>15294730
Wait till they find out what decimate actually means.

>>15294894
that article is paywalled, remopaywall and archive.is didn't work, here is an article from reuters about the same shit though

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/saudi-uae-investors-plan-invest-spacex-information-2023-03-22/

> March 22 (Reuters) - A unit of Saudi Arabia's investment fund and an Abu Dhabi-based company are planning to invest in a multi-billion dollar funding round for Elon Musk-led SpaceX, The Information reported on Wednesday, citing people familiar with the discussions.

>The funding round is expected to value the rocket maker at about $140 billion, the report added.

>SpaceX raised $2 billion in 2022 and $2.6 billion in 2020, according to venture capital firm Space Capital.

>The company and Morgan Stanley's representatives have told investors that Saudi Arabia's Water and Electricity Holding Company, part of the country's sovereign wealth fund, and United Arab Emirates' Alpha Dhabi are part of the funding round, according to the report.

>SpaceX, Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund and Alpha Dhabi did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment.

>>15294894
>>15294904
I guess they are still burning cash on starlink and starship? I wonder how many years its going to take before they are fully self funded through Starlink

>>15294909
Rates went way up and Elon isn't happy about it, probably related

>>15294904
They raised 750mil a few months back at around the same valuation (137bil)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2023/01/03/spacex-reportedly-raises-750-million-in-fresh-funding-at-137-billion-valuation/?sh=5d5a049e64b9

>>15294915

>>15294917

>>15294184
>Pac Man mouth is never happening
it occured to me in a dream

>>15293725
>suicide
>based
Into the Hell it goes ( mostly)

>>15294940
Any god that allows the jews to still exist is not benevolent and should be rightly ignored

>>15292881
>>15292886
SH isn't used on Mars retards

>>15294966
learn to read double retard

>>15294893
For newspace, of course SpaceX will still be around, Blue Origin will persist due to bezobucks even if they don't deserve it, and Rocket Lab might be the only other to survive since they're the only current small launcher launching with some frequency. I have no hope for the other startups.

>>15294893
They've transitioned into launching amusing projectiles for their youtube channel. Last week they launched an entire steer carcase

>>15294893
In 20 years the situation will be so radically different that it's hard to even comprehend.
SpaceX will still be around. Tory will get his wish and there will be substantial cis-lunar economy, with much industry exploiting the microgravity and free vacuum. Many spacecraft will be build on the Moon using lunar materials, and Mars will either have an Antarctica-scale base, or something more like a township.

How do you even settle your propellants after stage separation?

>>15295002
They have little ullage boosters for that.
Soviets lighted the second stage of N1 before MECO. That's why it has that open framework.

>>15294915
>literally posting MSM shillbot posts

>>15295017
MSM shillbot? what do you mean
its about spacex funding which I think might be relevant/interesting

Rolling for Virgin companies to all die in 6 months.

the rocket doesn't even have a deployable fairing right? just looks like a metal cone on top.

>>15295027
MSM articles are written by chatbots with talking points inserted into their programming.

>>15295030
They did not fly with a fairing, no.