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Is "Trump Derangement Syndrome" a Real Mental Condition?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-men/201901/is-trump-derangement-syndrome-real-mental-condition

>What does DSM-5 say about "Trump Derangement Syndrome"?
Mental illnesses are officially classified in a dense and dry book published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) known as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5). This book contains 947 pages and lists hundreds of mental disorders; TDS is nowhere to be seen. Similarly, a review of scholarly databases such as MEDLINE and Google Scholar reveal no academic papers on this alleged syndrome. Officially at least, TDS is not a real, diagnosable, or treatable mental disorder.
That said, medical anthropologists and critical sociologists have convincingly argued that DSM-5 is a flawed document. Indeed, social scientists have long recognized that there are numerous "folk categories" of mental disorders that are considered real conditions by the general public, even though they are not recognized as such in the DSM. These include categories such as "burnout" or "nervous breakdown."
As such, lack of official recognition does not mean that TDS is not a real mental condition

>Lay Understandings of "Trump Derangement Syndrome"
There is no shared lay understanding of TDS, mainly because it is a folk category rather than a professional category. As such, there is currently much armchair speculation about the nature and existence of TDS, without consensus.
The name itself explicitly suggests a "syndrome," which the Oxford English Dictionary defines as "a characteristic combination of opinions, emotions, or behavior." Several commentators have run with this, putting forth suggestions about opinions, emotions and behaviors characterizing TDS.

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Shared amongst these is a notion that the everyday activities of President Trump trigger some people into distorted opinions, extreme emotions and hysterical behaviors. Well-known writer Bernard Goldberg gives supposed behavioral examples of TDS among Trump’s political opponents, including fainting, vomiting, students retreating to "safe spaces" and others demanding "therapy dogs." Political commentator Justin Raimondo focuses on opinions, language and cognition, writing in the LA Times that "sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting of hyperbole [leading to] a constant state of hysteria… the afflicted lose touch with reality."
Such forms of highly emotional reaction could be something akin to the fainting and screaming characterizing American Beatlemania in the 1960s. Unlike the Beatles, however, the extreme emotional reaction alleged to characterize TDS is not based on adoration and admiration, but on fear and loathing.

>Conclusion
The wider public may be unaware that psychiatrists and social scientists spend considerable time and energy behind closed doors pondering over the existence and reality of mental conditions. This has led the APA to revise the DSM five times since 1952, considerably expanding the list of official mental disorders with each revision. As far as I am aware, few psychiatrists are currently arguing that DSM-6 should contain TDS as a mental disorder.
That said, in its official definition of mental disorder, the DSM-5 states that "a mental disorder is a syndrome characterized by clinically significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotion regulation, or behavior…mental disorders are usually associated with significant distress in social, occupational, or other important activities."

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Many have argued that some people have been seriously disturbed and distressed by the policies, speech, behavior, and tweets of President Trump, so much so that it has affected their cognitive, affective, and behavioral functioning. Such people may need mental health support. As such, further research is necessary to investigate the extreme reactions toward President Trump, in the same way that researchers investigate other extreme social phenomena, such as Beatlemania or the like. This will shed light on the reality of this emerging folk category that has been labelled by many as "Trump Derangement Syndrome."

>> No.15292911

>>15292896
Hysterical people get hysterical about anything the MSM riles them up about. Be it Trump, climate change, racism, nazis, or whatever. I think that's all there is to it.

>> No.15292979

>>15292896
>It's not in the DSM
Where do they find the brainless faggots to write these articles? I swear you could get chatgpt to write more engaging filler than this.
TDS is an example of mass hysteria btw

>> No.15292990

>>15292979
DSM-5 was published in 2013, calling a ten year old document authoritative or a condition which didn't exist until less than 7 years ago is an absurd use of logic and possible indication of the author's &/or editors' own disturbed mental conditions

>> No.15293014

>inb4 thread moved to /pol/

>> No.15293115

No, "Trump derangement syndrome" is not a real medical condition. What would you diagnose the Trump sycophants? "Trump is always right syndrome"?

>> No.15293123

>>15292896
nah, you're just soft on crime

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>> No.15293185

>>15292909
>>15292901
>>15292896
>Beatles made women faint from admiration
>Trump made women faint from rage
hmm, I wonder what common threat might connect these two...

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>>15293014
ya think?

>> No.15293309

>>15293162
What are you talking about? Corporate Democrat politicians have been warmongers and PC pre-2016 (see: Obama, Bill Clinton). The Democrat voterbase is the same and generally rational, other than the "woke" fringe. "Leftists" is a fake term, there are plenty of other terms that describe subsets of the left that don't make you sound mentally challenged.

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>>15293185
how does "functional uses of penis envy in a victim class dominated society" strike you?
also i'm jewish, remember the holocaust before you dare say anything critical of me. i'm also a black paraplegic and trans and i'm allergic to strawberries

>> No.15293485

>>15293425
>how does "functional uses of penis envy in a victim class dominated society" strike you?
I don't know what that means, it sounds like some humanities bullshit to me. The common thread I am referring to is WOMEN. Women being useless emotional creatures without a shred of rationality or sense, let alone dignity and composure.

>pic
The Florida bridge collapse thing is mostly /pol/ myth. Dig into this shit yourself instead of relying on infographics. MCM was a "construction management firm", aka middle men. They didn't build anything. FIU, the university who were buying the bridge, weren't the ones who designed or actually constructed the bridge either. The bridge design was in actual fact produced by the firm FIGG Bridge Engineers, who oversaw all of the real engineering. The FIGG engineers were men, and the construction workers were also men. FIGG engineers discovered and examined the fatal cracking before the collapse and brushed it off. You can look up a voice mail left by a FIGG engineer, a man, with FDOT describing the cracking and saying it wasn't a big deal. FIGG designed a bad bridge, signed off on unsafe modifications to the plan, then examined and ignored cracking when it appeared. FIGG are the ones who fucked up.

Really, if you exercise a little skepticism the entire premise of women doing the REAL WORK of building a bridge should have raised all your red flags for this narrative. The actual work was all done by men, like usual, with women sitting around collecting paychecks for being useless middle men who never got their hands dirty with real labor a single day in their lives.

>> No.15293494

>>15293425
>>15293485
said voicemail: >>>/wsg/5017616

FIGG engineer leaving a voicemail with FDOT describing the cracking, saying they'd need to fix it in the future but "from a safety perspective we don't see that there's any issue there"

>> No.15293504

>>15292896
Yeah my mother has trump derangement syndrome. I think fundamentally though it's not that, it's more about blind allegiance to the left. She just robotically repeats what the media says and basically never reads anything from any other point if view. Extreme confirmation bias. The worst thing though is that she will often make claims which then I show her evidence are untrue and she'll keep repeating the claim regardless, and will keep doing so until the media she agrees with admits they were wrong. It's infuriating but I've learned to just avoid talking about politics with her. I don't consider myself conservative either, more of a centrist

>> No.15293510

>>15293115
Well they did boo him at a rally when he told them to get the vaccine. I haven't seen the left booing biden at his rallies

>> No.15293514

>>15293485
>The Florida bridge collapse thing is mostly /pol/ myth. Dig into this shit yourself instead of relying on infographics. MCM was a "construction management firm", aka middle men. They didn't build anything. FIU, the university who were buying the bridge, weren't the ones who designed or actually constructed the bridge either. The bridge design was in actual fact produced by the firm FIGG Bridge Engineers, who oversaw all of the real engineering. The FIGG engineers were men, and the construction workers were also men. FIGG engineers discovered and examined the fatal cracking before the collapse and brushed it off. You can look up a voice mail left by a FIGG engineer, a man, with FDOT describing the cracking and saying it wasn't a big deal. FIGG designed a bad bridge, signed off on unsafe modifications to the plan, then examined and ignored cracking when it appeared. FIGG are the ones who fucked up.
99.9% of shit posted on /pol/ crumbles in this way when you bother to look beneath the surface for a moment

>> No.15293517

>>15293510
yeah, that's the only time, and that's because the right's vaccine derangement syndrome is far more intense than any other condition known to man

>> No.15293583

>>15293309
NTA but Obama's 2012 campaign leaned pretty heavily on Romney being paranoid and out of touch for recognizing Russia as a potential threat to European security.

>> No.15293760

>>15293583
But at that point he had already droned/bombed the Middle East despite saying he'd end the invasion. However he did remove US troops.

>> No.15293762 [DELETED] 

>>15293162
I would go back pre-WTO-riots or pre-Occupy for this. They were already totally brainwashed by 2016.