/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15288371
Bi*logists

>>15288371
Because you get your "feel" from popsci articles and meme videos, instead of being an actual scientist

>>15288371
Seconding what >>15288381 writes. I suggest reading some earlier "science" if you think that's the case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superseded_theories_in_science
In general, such writings are fucking cute compared to many modern efforts.

It's a mature industry in the "post commodification, slow decay" phase. If it continues to follow the typical organizational lifespan trajectory, which it looks like it will, then eventually it will decay to a point where it will be consumed and replaced by a competing organization. Which begs the question, what type of org will this be? A religion?

>>15288455
I've no idea what leads you to conclude religion is even on the table.
>Yes well I feel we've not made much headway with this whole trying to make ideas correspond to reality, so let's toss everything out and go on blind faith instead
said nobody (sane) ever.

>>15288470
>giving up on making ideas correspond to reality
that's literally what's happening in popular culture

>>15288470
That's what happened to particle physics and cosmology.

>>15288371
Sharticle pissics

>>15288470
Scientism is a distinct possibility, and I will be their Messiah

>>15289542
>hotwheels

>>15289520
>>15289518
I said "nobody sane". :P
>>15289524
>Scientism is a distinct possibility, and I will be their Messiah
Omnissiah of the mechanicus I call dibs

>>15289612
I don’t recall bestowing you with a soul, child, and your impudence is unbecoming. In other words, I already called it b.

>>15289628
>And so the first civil war of the Adeptus Mechanicus began even before it was conceived

>>15288371
diversity and inclusion chud. I am offended by your racisms and antisemitisms. You have had 100 credits deducted from your social credit score good boy points and mist report to redit for re-education immediately.

>>15289542
Holy fuck, I want that thing it looks so cool

>>15288371
problem?

Science is mainstream now. Any redditor with over 100 iq can become one. They just never hit anything good but only these low tier studies

this board proofs this

Because women

>>15289520
why would you go on the internet and just lie

>>15290571
low iqs colluding via the peer review process to censor higher iqs who challenge the low iqs' memorized conventional wisdom is a large part of why science has not progressed in more than half a century.
low iqs don't just innocently publish garbage, their crab bucket mentality also prevents everyone who isn't low iq from publishing non garbage

>>15288371
Because it is like that.

>>15288371
>studies never reproduced
>its even discurraged
>live science is a paradox since they rarely observe life
>do in vitro experiments with buckload of contaminants
>see a mistreated cell under a miscroscope
>add some solvents and protein dissolving agents to it
>proceed with extrapolating observations of in vivo cells to extremly complex living organisms such as humans
>invent receptors for proteins without ever demonstrating if these proteins are just a artifact of the in vitro treatment
>then it is never reproduced
>nobody reads the methods and discussions
>popscience outlet proceed with posting clickbait article
>"Muh cure for cancer? Immortality now? Is this food stopping us from becoming eternal beeings?"

>>15292440
Literally just diminishing returns as bottlenecked by natural human limitations of intelligence + breeding speed. Nothing can be done without greatly improving humans or reducing out present understanding. Leveling off is natural.

>>15292440
>low iqs don't just innocently publish garbage, their crab bucket mentality also prevents everyone who isn't low iq from publishing non garbage

Peer review process, was nover scientifically verified to be of any use.
Which is a kekistrophic paradox.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/

"we have little evidence on the effectiveness of peer review, but we have considerable evidence on its defects. In addition to being poor at detecting gross defects and almost useless for detecting fraud it is slow, expensive, profligate of academic time, highly subjective, something of a lottery, prone to bias, and easily abused."

"There are several ways to abuse the process of peer review. You can steal ideas and present them as your own, or produce an unjustly harsh review to block or at least slow down the publication of the ideas of a competitor. These have all happened. Drummond Rennie tells the story of a paper he sent, when deputy editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, for review to Vijay Soman.9 Having produced a critical review of the paper, Soman copied some of the paragraphs and submitted it to another journal, the American Journal of Medicine."

>>15292587
good article, so many layers of irony, could possibly be republished as humor or turned into a standup routine

>Here is an example of two reviewers commenting on the same papers.
>-Reviewer A: `I found this paper an extremely muddled paper with a large number of deficits'
>-Reviewer B: `It is written in a clear style and would be understood by any reader'.

>>15292616

>>15292737
lol

>>15292568
What did he write?!

>>15295154

>>15290571
low iqs colluding via the peer review process to censor higher iqs who challenge the low iqs' memorized conventional wisdom is a large part of why science has not progressed in more than half a century.
low iqs don't just innocently publish garbage, their crab bucket mentality also prevents everyone who isn't low iq from publishing non garbage

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>>15289652
>good goy points
ftfy

>>15288455
>"post commodification, slow decay"
Opinion discarded, you've been fed too many logic theories by midwit academics.

>>15288455
soience is already a belief system
science is an investigative technique
don't confuse the two, they're so different they're practically opposites

>>15290586
Im not lying I saw it in infographics of random unrelated ideas on /pol/

>>15292566
This entire schizophrenic cope because CNN told you not to self prescribe horse dewormer paste in potentially legal doses and your partisan hackery is at psychotic levels.

>>15296749
but he saw some boomer memes that's the same as a university education

>>15296749
If you take a antiparasitic reserved to neuter subhumans. Then you deserve it.
I never mentioned this shit.
But yes. It falls in the same issue.
Ivermectin is the same crap.
And Steven Kirsch is a astroturfed retard to catch sceptards.

The horse dewormer Studies fall in the same category as all pharmaceutical studies.
They are inconclusive.
Say nothing.
Are poorly controlled and are extremly biased.
Der is not benefit only downside in taking horsedewormer against a imaginary virus.

>>15288371
because contemporary science is a low iq pursuit

>>15288371
>Brave new world explains exactly this.

>>15288379
Not wrong tho. But it was only because most make do with existing methodology. The ones who made these methods are usually chemists, physicists, mathematicians, engineers.
But their contribution to health is formidable. Without them, we would be smelly and covered in filth right now.

>>15288455
Interesting.
Very good question actually. We need to ask what basis we are placing the fundamentals in science on. It's a new century.

>>15290571
Even in academia actually. I have to hide my skepticism from them because I don't want to offend anyone.
That means I have to leave them behind. That means I have to go where the geniuses are.

>>15292587
AI: Now it's my time to shine!

>>15292587
"peer review" and "conspiracy" are synonymous terms

>>15288371
I dunno, there's a transition from "learning science" to "doing science". When you're learning science, the academic problems are fun and you feel like you're doing real work.

But when you're all grown up and you're the scientist, you don't have anything else to work from and you're the little kid trying to figure out something you don't understand. It's very lonely, and it's very boring, and you just sort of realize that scientists are just chemical slot machines that occasionally pop out useful ideas after testing several hundred bad ones to find a gradient function that points in the right direction. After several months you generate a piece of information that might be useful to like 5 people, and it's just not... what you thought it would be.

Totally normal feeling.

>>15299614
yep. seeing the results of half a century of peer review make that inarguable. peer review put an end to a century of scientific and technological progress the likes of which has never occurred before and turned it into "science proves there are 1352 genders"

>>15299446
>consumerism inc.
god it's only gonna go downhill from here isn't it

>>15288371
because you have been successfully demoralized by demi-humans who instead of improving their own country decided to make the west worse

>>15288371
Women.

>>15288371
Academia is geared towards children. Just because college kids are over 18 doesn't mean they're adults or intellectually mature in any way.
Adults have real jobs and families to care for, college kids avoid that aspect of life by cowering in school while daddy pays all their bills.

I like the orange buttons on the back

>>15288455

empiricism

>>15304263
they look like jelly beans

>>15288371
Because you are not a scientist and are easily influenced by media.

>>15306124
>projection

>>15295165
>low iqs colluding via the peer review process to censor higher iqs
science's #1 problem.
general relativity would have never passed peer review

>>15306124