/sci/ - Science & Math

>Economics

get the fuck out of /sci/ maggot

OP is a faggot

lol bump

u mad?

FACTS

not really, this is just a terrible subject to troll with that will go nowhere, from a trolling perspective

rather dull and boring if you ask me

and THEN a libertarian posts and proves me wrong...

way to go OP, I now love you

libertarians need to look at 4chan if they think minimalist regulation is the way to go

lols.

Hey OP,

Somalia

>>1528324
>implying the very thing that can take away peoples lives or make them ginormously happy just by the thoughts of a few men is boring

>implying government regulations weren't responsible for the economic collapse.

>>1528337

More like lack of those regulations.

>>1528334
Somilia was a socialist state until the 70s.

Even though they are anarchist which is not libertarian, it has been the best thing for them.

Now I know you're mad.

>>1528338
LOL then you don't understand economics. Enjoy your financial collapse.

>implying the federal reserve and government interference in the housing market weren't almost entire to blame for the collapse.

>>1528332
>Implying 4chan is representative of the population at large

I like to think we are a special breed of person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHtNFZ6K0pE&feature=channel

here you go, an hour or longer presentation that demonstrates that what libertarians are going for, already exists, and that it's the closest thing to a conspiracy theorists being right that there is

but watch it, it's nothing like what conspiracy theorists say it's like

I lol'd at libertarians and anarchists throughout the video

>>1528337
>implying government regulations were responsible for the economic collapse.

This should be interesting. Please tell us more.

>>1528332
>Mensa, whose only membership requirement is an IQ in the top 2%, has a disproportionately Libertarian membership.


U MAD?

basically the video gives concrete reasons to collectively lol at the pile of shit we know as libertarians

What about all those capitalist countries in Africa. Like Liberia and Somalia?

OP causation fail.

>>1528349

Lack of strict enough regulations to control the market.

>>1528351
>implying libertarians are conspiracy theorists

>thinks it's a valid argument

Get your economist bullshit out of here. Your money, capitalism and economy is nothing in the face of SCIENCE, LEARNING and DISCOVERY. Less than nothing.

>>1528342
>anarchist which is not libertarian
What's with the pathological lying?

Anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism is interchangeable term in economics.

>>1528354

I've got a book on the origins of genius, and it talks about mensa

mensa is worse than useless, it actually ruins potential geniuses

fingering your own ass by thinking you're so smart you don't have to work at learning stuff apparently has negative side effects, to the degree that mensa is a faggot magnet

oh well

>>1528296

As a European I lol every time a libtard from 'merika thinks that the "socialism" in Europe is the same as the "democratic" US party.

It's not the same shit at all. The US democratic party is simply a farce.

>>1528362

you seriously need to read what I said before commenting on it

>>1528366
>mensa is worse than useless, it actually ruins potential geniuses

>asspained that the smartest people in the world are libertarians

Enjoy your financial collapse and creating more poverty you statist cuntrag.

>>1528364
>Anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism is interchangeable term in economics.

Wow. You're a fucking child.

Libertarianism means minimal government and anarcho capitalism is just anarchy.

>>1528364
>economics
>not socially
>Implying a country as broken as Somalia only has one aspect
>hurrdurr

ITT: Op proves that liberals are creationists.

>>1528363

>SCIENCE, LEARNING and DISCOVERY

DON'T RUN A COUNTRY SUCCESSFULLY.

>>1528363
money, capitalism and economy are the VERY THINGS THAT ALLOW SCIENCE, LEARNING and DISCOVERY TO FUCKING HAPPEN

dumbass.

/sci/ - Trolling & Economic dogma

>>1528376

canada's more socialist than the US

canada's doing better in terms of economic recovery than the US

collapse, sure

no.

stop making stupid comments

>>1528384
It means the same thing where it matters: letting companies do whatever the fuck they want in the name of profit. It has been proven by history time and again that greed makes people do worse things to each other than lust for power makes them do. Out of the two I prefer the latter.

>>1528401
>It has been proven by history time and again that greed makes people do worse things to each other than lust for power makes them do.

>implying rational greed isn't what brought humanity out of poverty and created all the awesome shit we have today.

fucking told

the video I posted basically says companies are doing whatever the fuck they want to do already

but because it'd be fucking stupid to believe that they're some giant conspiracy out to get everyone, it's not 1984, or brave new world, or libertarians were right 111!!! what have we dun goof'd~?!!!111`1

it's just real life

most of the top people compete with eachother

they happen to have a few overlapping interests at times

aka less government regulations on corporations

they're the ones with the most influence, about 2,000 or so, or 2k corporations influence like, 2.5 or 3.5 billion of the people on the planet


so yea, basically libertarianism is based on a sham, that's all

I'd call it sad, but this sort of sensationalism has been around since the dawn of time, this is sort of the new hippie movement

>>1528398
Dogshit. Pure dogshit. Research on a capitalist budget always ends up being inferior to research supplied with state resources.

>>1528405
"Rational" greed only created huge megacorps who stifle progress. Look at the oil business.

>>1528408
>so yea, basically libertarianism is based on a sham, that's all

>implying libertarian policies aren't what created your very high standard of living you have today

>this is sort of the new hippie movement

Delicious tears. Cry about it hippie.

>>1528400

First of, Canada is barely socialist. It keeps good balance just as some European countries.

Secondly, last time I checked the US have a "democratic" nigger running as president and democrats are in the majority. Yet the US never changed. I don't see how the US "democratic" party is any good when the only shit it listens to are fags shouting for more fagrights.

>>1528412
trolls trolling trolls

in fact the video makes a case for elites, after all elites are what have made everything possible

this is as close as it gets to libertarianism in the video though

the companies/primary stock holder guys/richest people in the world types

aren't really doing their thing for world domination, but rather for the companies they work for's profits

as opposed to humanity in general

that's why it's not optimized, even though it works a bit

and thus, we summarize libertarianism's retardation

"MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WILL TOTALLY NOT THRIVE IN THE SYSTEM THEY THRIVE IN BECAUSE WE GIVE THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT"

I lol'd

>>1528411
>capitalism
>stifle progress.

So I doubt any of you creationists even read the link?

>>1528410
>Research on a capitalist budget always ends up being inferior to research supplied with state resources.

Bullshit.


Where do like 95% of all medical innovations come from.

>lumping rational Keynesianism with Marxism

>>1528412

the video I posted basically says companies are doing whatever the fuck they want to do already

but because it'd be fucking stupid to believe that they're some giant conspiracy out to get everyone, it's not 1984, or brave new world, or libertarians were right 111!!! what have we dun goof'd~?!!!111`1

it's just real life

most of the top people compete with eachother

they happen to have a few overlapping interests at times

aka less government regulations on corporations

they're the ones with the most influence, about 2,000 or so, or 2k corporations influence like, 2.5 or 3.5 billion of the people on the planet


so yea, basically libertarianism is based on a sham, that's all

I'd call it sad, but this sort of sensationalism has been around since the dawn of time, this is sort of the new hippie movement

>>1528424
>keynesianism
>rational

>implying austrian economics didn't predict the economic collapse why the keynesfags just laughed at them

>>1528428
>so yea, basically libertarianism is based on a sham, that's all

>implying libertarian policies aren't what created your very high standard of living you have today

>this is sort of the new hippie movement

Delicious tears. Cry about it hippie.

Go live in north korea.

>>1528421
>corporations
>world domination

lol

Okay so does anyone else want to argue?

>>1528323
I agree with all of this except for the idea that wealth isn't fixed. It is. Wealth is only worth something if it is short supply. Therefore, a certain number of people will always be poor. The only thing that is fungible are the individuals who are poor. Some poor people can gain wealth, and some wealthy people can lose it. The same percentage of poor and wealthy will always exist on the aggregate.

Now, you can make an argument that technological advances through capitalism will guarantee a better way of life for the constant poor class. I would counter this argument by saying that techonological advancement would be even greater with an anarchic libertarian society as opposed to any form of capitalist society wherein advancement generally only comes when it is profitable.

>>1528423
Guess which companies are buying up the patents for low-carbon technologies? Guess what happens to the respective applications afterwards.