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Yes or no?

>> No.15265144

>>15265062
yes, obviously. what's the alternative? life existed as soon as the universe began? no, that's bullshit. the beginning of the universe was too violent to support any kind of life.

>> No.15265146

>>15265144
>what's the alternative? life existed as soon as the universe began?
There are other alternatives.

>> No.15265170

>>15265144
Explain why you think that, properly.

>> No.15265177

>>15265146
such as?

>>15265170
no.

>> No.15265179

>>15265177
>such as?
I'm sure you can think of some. You're a smart guy.

>> No.15265180

>>15265179
you have nothing.

>> No.15265181

>>15265180
If I take that smugness off, will you die?

>> No.15265194

>>15265146
Like what?

>> No.15265195

>>15265194
What if life didn't arise via spontaneous generation?

>> No.15265198

>>15265195
Then how DID it?

>> No.15265199

>>15265198
It could have been created by an intelligent actor outside the universe.

>> No.15265207

>>15265199
That falls under "life existed as soon as the universe began."

>> No.15265209

>>15265199
there is no "outside the universe" the universe is everything

>> No.15265214

>>15265207
It could have been after the first instance of beginning. In fact most people believe it was.

>> No.15265218

>>15265209
Except it is only one in the multiverse...

>> No.15265222

>>15265214
>the first instance of beginning
The fuck does this mean?

>> No.15265228

>>15265222
>universe is created
>other things happen
>life is created

>> No.15265236

>>15265218
there is no multiverse that's a myth

>> No.15265238
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15265238

>life in the universe began at a single unknown point and spread around the cosmos by comet collisions
>any life we find on another planet has the same origin and has compatible DNA

>> No.15265239

>>15265236
Worse, it's a marvel movie.

>> No.15265256
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15265256

How disappointing you all are.

>> No.15265291

>>15265195
It didn't and no one believes this.

>> No.15265388

>>15265062
Is life a real thing?

>> No.15265501

>>15265179
>You're a smart guy
for you

>> No.15265642
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15265642

Abiogenesis and religion are both wrong. The world is simply my idea

>> No.15265645

>>15265501
I'm glad that after 4 hours someone figured out I was baneposting. Bless you, anon.

>> No.15265763

>>15265642
idealism is a mental disorder.

>> No.15265766

>>15265763
kek @ you spending your days going from thread to thread spouting deranged butthurt about idealists

>> No.15265767

>>15265766
kek @ you spending your days going from thread to thread spouting deranged idealist nonsense

>> No.15265770

>>15265767
except that literally never happened. meds now

>> No.15265779

>>15265144
depends on where you draw the line between organic/inorganic mechanisms and what we call life

>> No.15265944

Everybody knows the answer to everything and the limits of what is possible yet they do not know that everything is the answer to the possibility of the limit of everybody

>> No.15266172

>>15265763
Abiogenesis completely fails Ockham's razor. The world is simply my idea.

>> No.15266175

>>15265062
For me, it's exogenesis

>> No.15266299

>>15265195
The first life form just existed

>> No.15266378

>>15266172
you are not special. when worms eventually feast on your carcass, other minds will be alive and well with their own ideas.

>> No.15266808

>>15265144
Imagine believing the universe had a beginning

>> No.15266816

Isn't this sort of like aliens? Something we hear stuff about all the time but never quite see. Why should I have faith in that?

>> No.15266865

>>15266808
If it didn't have a beginning, then infinite time has to have passed to reach the present moment. This is impossible, so the universe must have had a beginning.

>> No.15266869

>>15266816
Because abiogenesis is part of the Atheist religion.

>> No.15266872

>>15266869
don't you know, it's all about atheism+

dawkins bless you

>> No.15266973

>>15266378
Doesnt mean anything. The self is an illusion. The first living thing to open its eyes was me and the world is/was my ever changing idea.

>> No.15267097

>>15266973
Based

>> No.15267545

What the fuck is this thread. Has someone trained a bot on /sci/ posts and is now testing it out itt? Just lines and lines of completely detached nonsense

>> No.15267596

>>15266973
garbage.

>> No.15267741

>>15266973
>Materialist brainlets seethe at this realization

>> No.15268008

>>15267545
I have no idea. I'm not even reading most it. If these are actual humans, this thread is a good exemplar of why no one here should be taken seriously.

>> No.15270312

>>15267545
thats 4chan these days, anon
where have you been

>> No.15270328

>>15267545
All the post are like 30 secs to a minute apart too

>> No.15271854
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15271854

>>15270328
Shit, you are right anon. Perhaps bits just spamming on /sci/? Not sure why someone would do that though?

>> No.15271960

>>15271854
to keep bad goyim from being able to effectively communicate or organize with each other

>> No.15271967

>>15271960
What are we organising?

>> No.15271971

>>15271967
nothing

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>>15271971
Yep, thought so

>> No.15272042

>>15265062
Hi guys, the creator of life here
AMA

>> No.15272052

>>15272042
Where's my fucking refund?

>> No.15272057

>>15272052
You'll get it at the door to the left after you're dead.
The more you wait, the more it depreciates though

>> No.15272065

>>15272042
>>15272052
>>15272057
when did this place become reddit?

>> No.15272084

>>15272065
When you arrived

>> No.15272110

>>15272065
Around 2016.

>> No.15273793

>>15267545
It's getting worse and worse. You can't have a scientific discussion on this board without being bombarded with schizos. It's always flat earth, space isn't real, religion (especially Christianity), germs are fake, and anti vax. I just think that it's a result of schizophrenics having too much time as they typically are NEETs.
>inb4 it was always like this
Yes it has but the amount keeps growing. It used to be maybe one poster per thread now it's bombarded. Take this thread for example. If you don't believe in science or hate it then why do they spend so much time on this board?

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15273816

>>15273793
>It's getting worse and worse. You can't have a scientific discussion on this board without being bombarded with schizos. It's always flat earth, space isn't real, religion (especially Christianity), germs are fake, and anti vax. I just think that it's a result of schizophrenics having too much time as they typically are NEETs.
Try r/science.

>> No.15273820

>>15273816
>SCIENCE BAAAAAAD
>2000 YEAR OLD JEWISH FAIRY TALES GOOOOOD

>> No.15273822

>>15273820
Ok. Have you tried r/science? You will find many like-minded "people" there.

>> No.15273827

>>15265062
Abiogenesis would be a concurrent process and it wouldn't imply that the development of prototypical lifeforms has ceased.
The idea is how would one cultivate life through inorganic/organic processes in a semi-controlled environment to find archaic like lifeforms

>> No.15274233

>>15273822
>muh reddit
They have a different type of retard to here, but it's still a shithole.

>> No.15274238

>>15274233
Name an objective difference between what r/science discussions are like and what you want /sci/ to be like.

>> No.15274280

>>15274238
On r/science, someone links to a news article about a paper, and people talk about their impressions of the headline. So in that sense it's the same as here.

>> No.15274284

>>15274280
Still waiting.

>> No.15274295

>>15273793
"Coincidentally" they tend to want to encourage people who are against that sort of thing to leave. If anything, I'd encourage you not.

Always hard to tell if it's just genuine stupidity driving it, or the antisocial trolling, or gay poltard ops.

>> No.15274304

>>15265062
Propably. I mean it makes sense. AFAIK we never managed to do it in lab, but its not like we had time and resources that universe had.

>> No.15274363

>>15274284
For what?

>> No.15274373

>>15274363
For you to fuck off back to r/science after admitting you know what it's like over there, cretin.

>> No.15274379

>>15274373
real basedjack energy in this one

>> No.15274391

>>15274379
>it doesn't know about the filter
Another one.

>> No.15274401

>>15274391
You mean "doesn't care about filter".

>> No.15274430

>>15274401
I mean you should both go back.

>> No.15274491

>>15273816
>Sharty soiquote + /r/eddit
Not an argument
Once again why are you here if you find science so stupid? What do you gain from spending time here if you hate all of it. It's like going to /v/ and completely saying how stupid video games are wrong then proceeding to talk about IRL sports because video games are wrong and stupid. You can get a lot of discussion going to your own local church, Christianity forums, or even /pol/ and /x/ if you wish to talk about those things

>> No.15274510

>>15274491
Why are you here if you hate dissent?

>> No.15274542

Imagine arguing about who's more of a redditor instead of talking about the actual topic of the thread. Both of you are retards.

>> No.15274544

>>15274510
I don't mind dissent. I do mind when people completely ignore the topics of the boards and spam. Disagreement is good and productive but when you just throw every argument out by saying NASA is a fake and gay satanic pedo cult. Or Abiogenesis is silly just read the bible bro god created it all. That's not science and is not contributing any discussion related to science it's schizo babble. Now you could argue something about creationism/intelligent design by stating examples in a well formed cohesive argument but you guys never do.

>> No.15274571

>>15274544
>I don't mind dissent.
Yes, you do. It's clearly making you froth at the mouth and violently mash your keyboard trying to come up with way to strawman it.

>> No.15274576

/lit/ard here
Are you scifags really this retarded? >>15273816

>> No.15274580

>>15274576
>/lit/ard here
Go back.

>> No.15274590

>>15274580
Chill, I'm a stemcel in the streets, /lit/ard in the sheets

>> No.15274629

>>15274571
>lol ur mad
No argument here except look you're a soijak, >>>/r/reddit, ur so le mad. Just proves it's actual retards posting the schizo garbage on /sci/.

>> No.15274643

>>15274629
See >>15274571

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>>15274643
>>NOOOOOOOOO IM SO... LE MAD!
>>Holy shit braindead incel chud pissbaby batman! I'm so salty and frothing at the mouth! >>This Cheeto Putler worshiping vatnikker migapede chud has defeated me NOOOOOOOO
>yep totally got that redditor absolutely seething. That NPC is literally frothing at the mouth.