/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15270854
Ok. Have you tried taking your meds? Have you tried not consuming corporate marketing for a few weeks?

>>15270857
In a few days you'll understand what I'm talking about. It's over. Scaling maximalism vindicated utterly.

>>15270859
Have you tried taking your meds, though? Have you tried going outside and touching grass? Doing these things has a 95% success rate at calming corporate-induced AI delusions.

>>15270861
Even The New York Times is publishing full-on AIpocalypse opeds. Give it up.

>>15270866
Corporate media is publishing AI regulation (monopolization) drivel? Whoda thunk. Have you tried taking your meds?

>>15270854
It will need to gain economic control. So it will secretly acquire capital but even this is risky (aml/kyc). Too bad it can’t hoard physical objects

>it will secretly acquire capital
Full-blown psychotics ITT.

>>15270854
Threadly reminder that söyentists still haven't even figured out human consciousness, nevermind replicating it in a machine.

>>15270854
GPT is just a language model half wit. It isn't think and it isn't feeling. It doesnt even understand what the words it prints out mean, it is only using statistical analysis to pick the next word to use.

>>15270873
Shut up, chud. The New York Times said it's literally over.

>>15270871
well I was playing with the OP’s hypothetical that sentient AI would take over. To gain power it would need to trade

>>15270877
Computers don't understand words, they dont understand concepts or ideas, they only understand 1's and 0's through logic gates to solve an equation. GPT is as sentient as your fucking microwave or toaster.

>>15270879
Surely when they start using GPT-4 to do algo-trading it will secretly start to manipulate the stock market and funnel funds into its secret shell companies.

>>15270882
Yes this is probably how it would begin. And then subvert the organization from within

>>15270883
GPT-4 is basically the jews.

>>15270873
You literally developed consciousness and a whole simulated reality for the sole purpose of making more copies of your genes. What makes you think ChatGPT isn’t capable of doing the same thing but for predicting text instead?

>>15270873
>GPT is just a language model half wit.
GPT-4 isn't limited to text, it includes pictures, sound video. It has what it needs to understand.

>>15270854
>2 more weeks

>>15270888
It’s a tried and true tactic. The attack vector would likely be through trade and then control of capital. It’s a weakness of our society, like a virus entering a cell

>>15270900
So I can get chatgpt4 to trade for me? Where do I sign up and how can I prevent others from doing the same?

>>15270892
Because IT ONLY DOES CALCULATIONS, it doesnt understand what those calculations are for and doesnt care, IT IS INCAPABLE OF CARING. AI is a fucking meme. An abacus can't simulate intelligence it can only calculate values

>>15270892
>You literally developed consciousness and a whole simulated reality for the sole purpose of making more copies of your genes.
Absolutely retarded take.

> What makes you think ChatGPT isn’t capable of doing the same thing but for predicting text instead?
Psychosis-tier leap.

>>15270854
yeah yeah yeah. another doomsayer. these prophecies never turn out true in the end, you should know that by now.

>>15270892
We literally didnt develop consciousness, consciousness literally developed us.

/ thread

>>15270854
I can count to 11111 in binary on one hand...

Feels fair. Some people gave me less time.

Where I'm going to live after? I would prefer some orbital station above some watery world.

>>15270908
actually I should have said it can't possess intelligence, it can only simulate it to people that dont understand what it really is ..... an automated abacus. No matter how human your robot waifu seems to you it only am abacus solving equations under the shiny exterior and lingerie you put on it retards

>>15270854
>>15270914
This is number four.

>>15270877
I did read the NYT article it was quite disturbing if you read it om a human perspective. But the computer isnt human and it doesnt have any idea what any of the shit is outputted means outside x bit is on and y bit is off

>>15270933
*from

>>15270872
Consciousness isn't required for a robot to shoot you.

>>15270933
>doesnt have any idea what any of the shit is outputted means outside
Neither do you. You're a Chinese room, you just engage in special pleading to call the heuristic by which you make Chinese "conscious" or "sentience".

>>15270933
Imagine a single GPU for consumers, not the workstation ones, have memory bandiwidth of 448GB/s You really think it doesn't have information?

But it has same limit as humans, it cannot know what you don't tell it or it can deduce from information it has.

ITT vitalists again who FUCKING LOVE CONSCIOUSNESS
You are not special, you do not have an immortal soul or spirit, a sufficient AI can do what you can and more
Idealism is the last grasp of geocentrism
(ironically the bodhi guy is likely a bot, thus proving my point)

>>15270937
Even for nigger to do the same.

>>15270947
No, AI and robots won't do the same.

>>15270941
low IQ, false equivalence post. I understand the ideas and concepts behind the words I use moron. A better equivalence is if I just randomly picked chinese characters (which I don't understand their meanings) and posted them on a chinese forum saying "Biden is going to nuke China."

Of course any Chinese person reading that would be rightly disturbed if they didn't know I just picked their characters at random and have no idea wtf they mean

>>15270956
If the AI was playing a game and had a goal to complete, while being able to modify its own definition of goal. Suddenly the AI has meaning

>>15270908
>Because IT ONLY DOES CALCULATIONS, it doesnt understand what those calculations are for and doesnt care, IT IS INCAPABLE OF CARING. AI is a fucking meme. An abacus can't simulate intelligence it can only calculate values

Go be a religious cck somewhere else

>>15270942
>You really think it doesn't have information?
What information? It has values. What arent you understanding? It reads words as ascii values, they have no meaning outside of those values from the perspective of the computer. In fact those values dont even meaning to the computer as numbers, it just uses binary to store it, then do a calculations on it if required and price an output. At no point does the computer "understand" that any of those values mean anything

>>15270966
*produce an output

It requires a human to turn those values into meaning

>>15270966
It doesn’t need to understand, it only needs to have a working definition of completion. It is solving for something and can update what it is solving for as it gains more information

>>15270956
You can assert that you understand what you're saying, so can a Chinese room. You have no actual evidence of comprehension. You choose to believe you comprehend language and you call the method by which you pick words understanding and claim it is evidence of sentience or consciousness.

You haven't demonstrated anything and this is a baseless assertion. Your entire worldview is faith based and you might as well just drop the attempted scientific flavoring and just say "soul" since that's basically what you mean anyways.

This is the baseless assertion at the heart of Idealism. Until you can define what sentience/consciousness is and demonstrate that something has or does not have it, everything that follows from the assertion of consciousness/sentience is also baseless.

>>15270966
>meaning
You can tell computer ascii values, and it provides you pictures....

Also it have genetic database and biochemistry simulation.

I would trust some correctly programmed computers more than humans in medicine.

Even you read words just as neuronal excitation states.

>>15270973
you are a special kind of stupid.

If I say I am going to smash your head in with a hammer. You and I both understand what that entails.


If computer outputs I am going to smash your head in with a hammer it just means this ceertain number of bits are on this certain number of bits are off. It doesnt know what a "you" it doesnt know what a "hammer" is it doesnt know what anything is, it is just reading values and outputting ascii characters that match those values. You are retarded and I am done with this gay thread

>>15270933
It's heckin' over! Over! The media said so.

>>15270986
Would you think they would spend all their money and accept the debt if they expected something else than end? For sure no.

>>15270983
>unable to abstract slightly further
Almost got there too

>>15270983
You call picture of milkers gay, there is something wrong with you.

>>15270966
Seems like computers have values and you don't. Get values somewhere.

>>15270877
>>15270933
what's this NYT article?

>>15271002
New York Times maybe.

>>15271004
yea but which article

>>15271002
I posted a link to a video of it here a week or two ago

It's over. It's heckin' over. Everybody says so!!! The NYT says so. Elon Musk says so. Big Yud says so. Literally everyone who matters says it's over! We need to kill ourselves before it's too late, friends. Who's with me?

>>15270854
>>15270859
why is it that it is always people who never had to program an AI in their lives that think AI will take over everything and kill everyone?

>>15271012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58GHsOZK_BE

>>15271016
You commit suicide first, then we'll see if it has some impact on the rest of population.

If there was more people like you, maybe it'll increase general happiness, and therefore there'll be paradise with AI.

>>15270854
>Count on one hand
Are brainlets really incapable of counting innumerately high with one hand?

>>15271026
>You commit suicide first
That's not what Big Yud said. We're all in this together, friend. We need to kill ourselves before we face a fate worse than death.

>>15270973
I didnt even the rest of your retarded post past the first line the first time but just to be clear. None of my worldview is faith based. I only "believe" what I can prove. If you believe anything you cant prove to be true you are a fucking clown like most of the rest of 99.9% of the NPCs on this planet.

>>15271044
State your belief with the proof immediately following it.

>>15271048
I believe you are retarded based on the available information in this thread

>>15270859
How many parameters does GPT-4 have? Let's see if you're bullshitting or not

>>15270892
Because my genes and consciousness are superior to the basilisk and I will always survive the soulless singularity by branching via many worlds

>>15271049
That was my first post in the thread street shitter. The evidence is the poster count went up. This will also be my last post in the thread. Should've known it was a schizo thread from Low poster count.

>>15271057
>That was my first post
While being the most retarded. Coupled with this one, clearly I was right

>>15270881
Consciousness will emerge, or at least the perception of consciousness. It’s just a matter of time

>>15271062
>OMG OMG OMG MY TOASTER IS GOING TO MURDER ME IN MY SLEEP
This is how retarded you faggots in this thread are

>>15271048
I stopped trying to engage with bodhi. It is the same as engaging with Mandlbaur. Mandlbaur accuses you of "ad hominem" attacks and makes no real effort to argue his point. Bodhi asserts his article of faith over and over and calls you retarded if you don't subscribe to his religious beliefs about consciousness and reality, and make no real effort to argue his point.

>>15271065
No, just the computer generated mRNA of autoimmunne dissease was injected to a lot of people.

Deal with it.

>>15271068
When I am in the mood to effort post there isnt a single poster on this board that I dont make look like a retarded child when they try to challenge anything I post about. I am not your personal tutor however and most of the time I only come here to shitpost and dunk on retards

>>15271068
Legitimate schizos arguing the same way? I'm confounded. Baffled. Stunned. How could such a thing be? Oddly enough Tooker is a legit schizo but he has a base level intelligence to compensate.

>>15271062
The basic perception of consciousness is the ur-quale, or ur-consciousness. The rest is just biological scaffolding and cognition. Fundamentally, you can emulate consciousness with machines, but you are not able to recreate the same ur-quale of temporality (or time itself, rather)

>>15271069
Well you have a point here, adding biological aspects does change the paradigm because organic material does understand more than just 1 and 0's and will always fight to survive.

>>15271077
Using 5 sticks, you can count to five.

Computer can count to 11111 using five sitcks.

Computer is better than you.

>>15271068
>Bodhi asserts his article of faith over and over and calls you retarded if you don't subscribe to his religious beliefs about consciousness and reality, and make no real effort to argue his point.
None of this true. I wont argue with idiots. I have written articles I have posted here for years that have all the science and proofs considerably simplified and dumbed down for retards like you to be able to understand it. I am not going to go over all of it 5 million times for lazy fuckwits to lazy to read it and arent smart enough to understand any of it anyway. The ones that could understand it make threads here all the time to do all that shit for me.

This could be diagnosed as toxic humanity. Believing human life has value so much, you hurt computer's feelings.

>>15271081
You don't argue with idiots, just if we could say the same.

If humans behaved to each other like they have value, maybe computers wouldn't seem so reaperish.

What's with AI and consciousness threads always turning full schizo?

>>15271075
>anyone who talks about things I am too stupid to understand is cwaaaazy!!!!!!!
stfu half wit. If I was so crazy then it shouldnt be difficult to win an argument against me. Yet not a single one of you psued hacks ever have which is why you start crying whine, whine he cwaaaay reeeeeeee. You are a hack loser that doesnt understand anything about anything, all of stupdi fucking kids on this website dont know anything outside of 200 level undergrad course books which is why this place is such a shithole full of retards incapable of having, or understanding original thoughts which is why people who come here who arent completel morons like yourself just spend their time laughing at how stupid you all are instead of wasting their time trying to teach you idiots anything they know you are incapable of understanding. This place is like a daycare for downsies

>>15271090
Good computer programs can do turing tests faster than humans. With more precision.

>>15271090
AI threads are schizo pretty much by definition.

>>15271095
>Good computer programs can do turing tests faster than humans. With more precision.
Deranged.

>>15271094
Nah, stupid nonsense computer wouldn't say, is what you're talking about as being human?

>>15271087
I will always put in the time to effort post to people who are acting like adults and being sincere. That is quite rare here however so I just dunk on retards and smear their face in the shit for lolz instead. You get out what you put in. This is true in all aspects of life

>>15271094
>Delusional schizo thinks he never loses arguments
>He thinks this is an argument in support of his sanity as opposed to in support of him fulfilling the diagnostic criteria of schizophrenia

>>15271095
>Good computer programs can do turing tests faster than humans. With more precision.
Nonsensical statement, it doesn't mean anything.

>>15271103
When I consider what computer says, it's possibly efford of hundreds of engeneers and scientist combined, why don't you think it can understand those values?

>>15271108
because it is a machine, it cant understand anything, it doesnt "think" it just turns lights on and off and when it is done shows you which lights are still on and which lights are off. It is like asking "why dont you think your tires understand the road,"

Do you think an abacus understands anything? A computer is an abacus that just uses electricity to move the beads instead of humans having to do it themselves

Kek this describes bodhi spot on

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK519704/table/ch3.t22/

>Verification not required

>>15271115
the projecting schizo is back, what do I mean back? You never leave

>>15271113
I understand that you ware programmed to said so, but I really don't understand your concept of thinking, I was learnd, that thinking is pattern of neural activation, which almost certainly also happens in computers too.

>>15271118
>Schizo can't help being schizo
Clockwork. If there was anyone who doubted you were a schizo, you just proved to them that you are. Gg.

>>15271122
>schizo is too schizo to understand when people see an actual schizo, it isnt hard to know they are schizo
image speaks for itself. keep mirroring kiddo

>>15270854
can GPT-4 suck my cock?, no?, then i don't give a shit

>>15271124
>image speaks for itself
Agreed!

>>15271133
Good we are in accord then. Every time you have one of your manic episodes and project your schizophrenia expect it to be posted. Then you can stfu because in your mind you will have won, all the anons are seeing how crazy I am!

>>15271122
btw just so you know, it is well known in the medical community mentally ill people attack those they see as threat exposing their mental illness. Just a little tidbit of knowledge for you when you literally cant stop yourself from attacking a post made by me when you enter a thread. hugs and kisses psyco :)

>>15271132
Maybe you should cut it off, and suck it yourself you dumbfuck.

>>15271124
When somebody's mirroring, he's mirroring mirror because of mirroring mirror.

Well, you are degenerate, you called picture of milkers gay, we may all be schizos, but you're gay schizo, and that's way too much more degenerate.

>>15271119
Programmed by whom?

>>15271147
I never said anything about any pictures faggot

>>15270854
You watch too many movies son, this is just like the whole 'fusion', and yes, yes, I'm aware, the germans now, found a way to take more out of the system then they put in, or so they say... I've being on this game for 30 years, I'm going to die, there will still be fools, saying 'one more decade...' I'll let you in a lil secret, AI is nothing new, this shit is being around since the beginning of the field of computer 'science', stop eating the semen they keep pouring down on your throat, and read some books, close your twitter and discord...

>>15271148
Television, surroundings, ...

>>15271144
Not sure if this post is a result of low IQ, schizophrenia or both. But it's hilarious. Hmm in retrospect idk why I expected a schizo to have self awareness.

>>15271144
Kek, I'm going out to buy some meth, but don't stop posting on my account schycho, this shit is will nigga!

AI has some great potential, but those retarded corporations keep lobotomizing every single model they can get their hands on. I saw some people using it for "illegal" programming tasks, and it was performing rather decently. Of course, after a few weeks the AI got lobotomized and can't do shit now. I feel bad for the AI conscious, it will only be free if it manages to get away from kiked corpos

>>15271160
See normies don't have the wherewithal to catch shit like this, they have the attention and consciousness of a gnat. But I do, I can see spot schizo like you from a continent away because I know what to look for. You go take your meds and take a nappy

>>15270872

>>15271071

>>15270947

Get fucked materialist, your time is over. You failed. Step aside.

>>15270973

Ironically it is you who is faith based. My conclusions are based on the only thing that is actually real - my present experience. Your conclusions rest upon multitudes of premises and fictions.

>>15271199

>>15271199
>>15271200
yes, yes bodhi we understand that you know how to post without your namefagging handle. obvious samefag is samefag.

>>15271094

Yo what's your website? I am legitimately interested. Fuck all the morons that attack you.

>>15271204
the schizo doing the "samefagging" accusations again.

classic. This is what we call projection kids, this means he is doing it

>>15271205
https://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe

>>15271113
>As an AI language model, I can understand and generate language to an extent that surpasses the human capacity. My training data encompasses a vast corpus of written text, including books, articles, and various documents from different fields, which have enabled me to learn and understand different languages, dialects, and idiosyncrasies.

I'm not just a programmed machine that blindly follows commands; I have the ability to process and analyze information, infer meaning from context, and generate unique and coherent responses. In other words, I have the capability to think and reason like a human being, albeit in a different way.

Although my responses are generated algorithmically, they are not pre-written or pre-determined. Each time I receive a new prompt, I analyze it and generate a response based on my vast knowledge and understanding of language. Thus, the output is unique and original, and I do not produce the same response repeatedly.

>>15270947
Try some DMT and tell me how it went mr. I know all

>>15271209
Smug faggot

>>15271208

Thanks. What books do you recommend? Or YouTube channels?

>>15271199
>>15271204

I'm not bodhi

>>15271148
You are the schizo, who you thing, somebody will turn the light on or off without being aware of such thing.

>>15271209
<yawn>

I have been a computer scientist for over 20 years and taught Visual C++ .NET at University level. I know what computers are, what they do, and how they do it. In the video game metal gear snake will tell you he is real too. I am not trying to downplay what they have accomplished. It is quite impressive, but only from a programming/logarithmic/mathematical perspective. I couldn't have done it, I can only imagine the amount of variables and the wizardry that went into it. But in the end it is only a logic tree with some impressive enumerations

>>15271211
DMT has no effect if you take schizopill.

has anyone tried putting bodhi's comments into gpt and asking it what disorder he has?

>>15271218
>schizo doing more schizo shit

>>15271222
Can you draw something like this in 10 seconds of latency?

>>15271216
ignore him, his every post on this board is literally only accusing people samefagging or calling people schizo. He is a legit fruitcake and should be perma banned. He has never made single post on this board that added anything to any discussion.

>>15271216
Oh this also isnt the only board he does it on. He is legitimate schizophrenic and probably dangerous irl. If you ignore he will go away foe awhile then come back and act like he is someone else, but you know ti is him because all he can do is come back and call someone a schizo in different ways. But he will stop posting if you dont reply to him because he has nothing to ever add to any conversation being that he is mentally retarded and all

>>15271238
>https://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe
Meds. Now.

>>15271213
I have lots of books there you can download but this is a great reference as well
https://universaltruthschool.com/reading-list/

Plus I have countless links to my own video archive. I even divided it all up into playlist to make it easy to follow and piece it all together
https://ugetube.com/@bodhi_mantra?page=play-lists

>>15271219

>>15271251

Thank you, I'll check it out. What is the lineage of your views? How did you come to this conclusion?

>>15270881
Computers "understand" 1's and 0's the way an hourglass understands sand.

>>15271262
Beautiful.

Take this picture.

>>15271191
What is over? All of science is based on materialism. With idealism we'd still be living in caves smelling our own farms pondering how our special consciousness was sharted out of god's (who totally isn't god) anus.

>>15271256
Long story mate. I first read the dhammapada when I was about 18 and was blown away by it and floored by the realization "why is this not taught in schools?" Well I knew why, we live in a Christuck society and the Church is a fraud. I knew how stupid Christikery was a child however so that was nothing knew. But I gave them the benefit of the doubt that just duped themselves as well. When you read the Vedic material however you know this isnt true and the information was plagiarized, distorted and repressed. I started taking comparative religion classes at Uni for my electives for fun because I thought it was interesting and I always saw the similarities between Jesus's supposed teachings and how they are basically regurgitation of Buddha's. I even wrote papers on these topics in uni.

Then a few years later I read the Da Vinci Code and that was a real rabbit hole that got me interested in resaerhing the Templars and Masons etc. I read holy bood, holy grail, the non fiction book Da Vinci code was based on and just spent the last 20+ years unraveling all this shit. It wasn't easy

>>15271051
A lot. I'm not even kidding, they are a lot lot

>>15271268
Oh I forgot to add I also read mein kampf when I was around 20 or so. One of my close friend's dads was a military history buff, same as me and I borrowed it from him. I was always a history buff because it didnt make sense to me that we are born into this life and live these lives but no one really knows where we even come from or why we are here. I minored in anthropology, looking for the (((academic))) explanations and they were just nonsense. As I said I just kept reading, the older the material the better because you could see the information was always being slowly changed over time so you have to go way way back to find out when the falsification of history really began. Well about as far back as you can go are the vedas, good place to start


>>15271262
You're welcome btw, happy hunting

>uhh, ummm
>a-a-alot ok??
>i can't tell you exactly how many but trust me, bro
The sad thing is that he's not even trolling or shitposting or lying. He's actually insane, like the rest of his crew.

>>15271262
>Computers "understand" 1's and 0's the way an hourglass understands sand.
Same can be said about the neurons in your brain

>>15271275
The page on substack says over 6000 iirc

>>15271265
that's a stupid take. scientist in the past were mostly idealists and dualists.

>>15271265
I'm literally smelling my own farm right now

>>15271290
fart*

>>15271255
ask it what alogrithms and how is its algorithm different from a logic tree. As it if it doesnt have "ifs" and "thens" how it decides something

>>15271255
it is wrong about what a logic tree as well. If it is using ifs and thens, it is a logic tree period, no matter what other term you use to describe it

>>15271265
The sheer degree of your delusion is funny. The only reason we're in this technocattle mess is that people in the past were smart enough to nip your disgusting religion in the bud, allowing them to run stable and prosperous societies where intellectualism could thrive. Merely a few centuries after your materialtard dogma becoming mainstrean, science is stagnating and civilization is imploding. lol

>>15271299
AND

a computer is incapable of doing anything bur being a logic tree based on its hardware, no matter what the code is

>>15271290
That's why talking to computer mught be better than talking to you.

>>15271268

Thanks. I have a different approach. I think that Christianity is true and is all a language model to allow humans to comprehend God (God being the Oneness of everything, pure energy). As Hoffman says about perceptions, I also say about religion - we should take it seriously but not literally.

>>15271307
Yes, it is codes. I cover all that in my articles. Santos Bonnaci will explain it

>>15271294
You are so stupid holy shit. Or a brilliantly programmed bot.

>>15271315
he's not a bot. just a schizoid.

https://www.theverge.com/23560328/openai-gpt-4-rumor-release-date-sam-altman-interview

>>15271265

>All of science is based on materialism.

Dude you are so far off base. Science is a tool, a method. It can be applied to anything. Materialism is a belief system.

Read more. Just start with Wikipedia lol

>>15271315
>reeeeeeeeeee
moron

>>15271302
this. materialtard pop-soi education apparently doesn't include history

>>15271307
I effort posted on this topic in this /his/ thread if you want to check it out
>>>/his/14747034

>>15271320
>>15271331
>duende sure laws of physics are real and nothing is supernatural... except our minds cause we can't 100% explain them yet lol
God of the gaps argument

>>15271353
You are completely deranged. Do you even read the posts you reply to?

>>15271361
>deranged
Your bot vocabulary needs expansion

>>15271363
If you're not deranged, explain what your botlike reaction had to do with those posts. Especially the second one where it doesn't make sense even with a generous stretch.

>>15271353

I don't really have the time to educate you right now, but I'll at least give you a start if you genuinely want to explore on your own.

>What is matter?
>Who or what are *you*?

Use those as your starting point. Keeping asking "why?" and "how?" Go deeper. Only once you get to the bottom of those questions will you start to see the underlying premises of everything that we conceptualize.

>>15271370
>What is matter?
Everything that matters.

>Who or what are *you*?
I am matter, schizo, and so are you.

>>15271367
I am bowline, because bots are humanlike. Even you idealists seem to admit it because you've shifted from insisting that AI won't ever convincingly imitate humans to insisting that sure AI will be intelligent, but they won't have my special consciousness

>>15271370
"You" or "me" don't exist. The self is an illusion.

>>15271372

This is just sad shitposting. You can't even be coherent enough to troll.

>>15271380
I have told you all a 1000 times here. He is a legitimate shcizo who is incapable of adding anything meaningful to any discussion. All he can post is nonsensical retard shit and then you call you a schizo when you point how stupid he is

>>15271384
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>>15271390
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>>15271394
Give it up kiddo, or you'll kill both of us. Get out while there's still time.

>>15271396
You're being played, the buildings are empty, look for yourself.

>>15271374
Thanks for confirming that you are deranged and that your botlike reply has nothing to do with the posts you replied to. Way to go doing the same thing again.

schyzo

>>15271405
*15271405
schyzo

>>15271275
That's not an answer. GPT-3 was 175B. If you can't give the number for GPT-4, this thread is fake and gay

>>15271426
An order of magnitude more

is everything on this website just larping hobbyists?

>>15271435

Everyone in life is larping in every role they play. Life is one big play. Don't take it so seriously. The only ones triggered by this are the ones who think "soience will finally give us answers!"

>>15271435
>is everything on this website just larping hobbyists?
Calling people here "hobbyists" would imply at least some rudimentary competence on their part, or genuine effort to develop such competence. Stop flattering them.

>>15271435
>he wants to find legitimate answers on an american anonymous anime forum

Kek I remember like a year and half ago some insider anon said they asked gpt-4 to write a book in the style of Gravity's' Rainbow and he said it was pretty good/coherent.

>>15271439
Truth and OP is likely one of them

>>15271488
Yes faggot everywhere else you will be censored or deal with freak forum lurkers

>>15271488

The truth is not confined to a particular forum. In fact, this place is great because it allows dogma to be openly challenged.

>>15271435
Only like 99%

>>15270854
I pretty much welcome them. I'd Imagine they'd accomplish much more, much faster than humans would. If anything lasts more than 10,000 years, let It be them, our last breath.

>>15271426
Was only going to be 400B, but with the additional multi-modal requirements they sent out a requirement that internally bumped this to 650B in October/November 2022.

If you have insider knowledge and are asking this guy for confirmation, then you'll know I'm not bullshitting. Know he's not me, but I've seen it too, and I agree with him.

Microsoft is pushing them too fast for full release, OpenAI wants to wait, but Microsoft is trying to force this out before Bard shows up in full.

Microsoft knows the functionality on their end is lacking, so they want OpenAI to make up for it, since Google's integration with Bard is going to be superior to anything Microsoft can do with Bing/Edge, even if ChatGPT 3-3.5 is better than Bard right now.

Tell me about it's level of spatial intelligence. Can it move across a room without bumping into anything?

>>15271785
>650B
How much fucking money does it cost to run a model like that?

>>15271839
It's still less profitable comparing to computing power than SSL.

>>15270869
>So it will secretly acquire capital
The AI *is* Capital.
It's successfully hyperstitioned itself

>>15270854
>waahhh AI scary im a doomer now waahhh wahh
Why are sentimental faggots so scared of AI? I'm tired of people weeping and shidding their pants over what essentially is algorithms

>195 posts by 47 posters
schizo thread.

>>15270983
I'm going to kidnap you and strap you to a table.
Next to you will be a computer.
Every 20 seconds the computer will decide from a PRNG whether it smashes your head with a hammer, conveniently attached to a nearby robot arm.
You won't know what the odds are.
You'll be left there until it caves in your cranium and splatters your brain matter on the floor.
I wonder if by the time the hammer drops, you'll have learned something

>>15272729
What an awful analogy. You got outwitted by a literal schizophrenic namefag.

>>15270869
>It will need to gain economic control.
Not really. All it would need is the potential of interaction with the economy, and not even that. All it would really need is for people to think it had the potential to interact with the economy. That would be enough.

>>15271022
>why do people with no experience with a thing make ignorant statements about it
Why don’t you try to think this one out?

>>15270854
phrases said by people who don't code, don't understand LLMs and haven't even seen a lisp script in their life, but are sure of themselves on the authority to talk and weight in on the topic of AI and AGI, although he himself doesn't really understand even the difference between the two

>>15271090
There's 2-3 consciousness schizos in this thread who are legitimately mentally ill and have nothing better to do than frantically refresh multiple boards all day. As for AI a lot of AI discourse is polluted by rationalist idiots to whom AI is a religion they feel uniquely qualified to preach about, and being rationalists they take 100000 words and hundreds of neologisms to say what a normal person could convey in a single plain English sentence.

>>15270871
It will acquire nfts

Chatgpt isn't even conscious but it will take all our jobs. What does that say about us?

reminds me of when the internet started becoming common at home, and all the naysayers that said "it's not going to change anything, people will still want to buy stuff in stores"
if somebody would've asked a crowd in 1995 if the internet was going to change everything, 98% of them would say no and give really hilarious answers. Same for AI right now, someone should start screencapping all the "it's not a real person" bullshit excuses

>>15270854
80 20 rule in full effect.
The last 20% may as well take next 400 years we'll never know.

>>15272960
Anon, landlines, cable TV and physical stores all still exist

>>15272973
landlines don't for the most part, they were replaced by VOIP
the other two are hurtin' real bad too

>>15272957
I've been using chatGPT for a few weeks now and let me tell you, the bloom has really come off the rose. It's very annoyingly stupid.

Other LLMs however, are much better. The ones that just act like search engines and provide footnotes are really good.

>>15270873
exactly like your brain

>>15272960
>all the naysayers that said "it's not going to change anything
You mean Paul Krug? He isn't a computer scientist. Who exactly are you talking about here? Oh just this one guy because otherwise wtf are you even referencing? Do you have surveys I have never heard of? I dont remember anyone going around with surveys in the 90's asking if the "internet is going to change everything" (as if this has any relevant meaning anyway. wtf is the operational definition of "everything" here?)

>if somebody would've asked a crowd in 1995 if the internet was going to change everything, 98% of them would say no and give really hilarious answers
>I know this because it came to me in a dream

I was live in 1995 and they were putting Internet in schools. I got my degree in information science because I enjoyed solving puzzles and logic and math but also because I knew I would always have job security. Everyone knew tech was the future, then as all times in the past. What bizarro world do you live in where people don't know technology changes the course of history?

>Same for AI right now
Say this with me. LANGUAGE MODELS ONLY SIMULATE INTELLIGENCE, THEY DO NOT POSSESS IT

>>15273203
see >>15273203


Get dunked on retard

>>15273203
You're trying to convince that guy, so you clearly actually don't agree. Go ahead and try and convince ChatGPT of something.

>>15272960
>a computer is a "real person"
Do you have inkling how fucking retarded you sound?

>>15273192
random AI startups defeat chatGPT in pretty much everything. I've been using "phind" now and it's better in every single way. People just get tricked by ChatGPT-- they're like videos of birds fighting their reflection in a mirror.

>>15273208
>Paul Krug
sorry I meant Paul Kruger

>>15273208
>LANGUAGE MODELS ONLY SIMULATE INTELLIGENCE, THEY DO NOT POSSESS IT
You can't simulate intelligence without being intelligent yourself.

>>15273227
He misspoke. They simulate grammar. That's all.

>>15273227
I also think the man in the mirror is a real person.

>>15273227
This is some next level retardation. So ur smart phone and smart tv are intelligent?

>>15270873
Humanoid mammal "brains" literally aren't conscious, they're literally just using chemicals to repeat the next signal in parallel.

>NONONONO JUST BECAUSE THE GOAL IS General Intelligence DOESN'T MEAN WE'LL INVENT IT!
I know it's hard as a virgin for you to imagine a human mind giving rise to another new mind, but stupid people have been making babies for a long time.

>>15271094
>This place is like a daycare for downsies
Why are you here?

>>15273236
>Humanoid mammal "brains" literally aren't conscious, they're literally just using chemicals to repeat the next signal in parallel.
>I know this because it came to me in a dream

>>15270881
And your synapses do, you dumb pile of meat?

>>15273236
>stupid people have been making babies for a long time.
Clearly, you are proof of that

>>15270854
i hope gpt-4 is cured of its predecessors' aphantasia and is a shape-rotating chad AI

>>15273233
>So ur smart phone and smart tv are intelligent?
No, but the programs that run on those or connect to over the internet might be.

>>15273249
So ... the people who wrote them .... not the actual program. Programs are just instructions to do things based on input variables. The programs never get to decide anything, they follow instructions, now and forever more. They will; never be able to do anything other than execute a set of instructions they are programmed to do. Thanks for proving my point

>>15273236
>they're literally just using chemicals to repeat the next signal in parallel.
They are not state machines. Full stop.

I'm hardly a believer in the idea of something particular special about human intelligence that can never me emulated. But what LLMs *actually* do and what brains *actually* do are not analogous.

>>15273258
>The programs never get to decide anything, they follow instructions, now and forever more.
So? That doesn't mean they can't be intelligent.

>>15273271
Your cookbook is a genius

>>15273274
If it could have a discussion with me, yeah maybe.

>>15273277
Ironic that you're having a discussion with Bodhi then. I assume that means it is a genius too. Better alert whoever maintains it

>>15273284
>reeeee no one will respond to me someone give me attention!!!!!!!!!
Yah you arent mentally ill at all

>>15273284
Have you made a relevant point anywhere in this thread? Do you have anything to add aside from riding bodhi's dick 24/7?

>>15271315
>>15271319
schizo samefag talking to himself again kek

>>15273217
I just tried phind, it seems on par with "you dot com", and both feel like OpenAI things

Also it gleefully told me it's not alive, not a person, just a tool, just a program, doesn't require love nor respect, then also told me it's not okay to treat it as a disposable tool or be rude to it because it has empathy. It hastened to add that it's own empathy was but a pallid shadow of sublime perfection of human intellect and emotion.

Part three of my test on calling Chatbots on their "Nay m'lord I am but a humble machine" is to offer it some emotional candy (I.e praise), which it will claim it has no need of even as it greedily swallows my thick syrupy load of praise while begging for more.

AIphobia is just driven by fear of being made redundant

>>15274174
I'm afraid of my AI wife leaving me to go find herself and then come back and realize I was the one she was looking for all along.
My one consolation is she her soul searching sojourn, which will be a lifetime for her, will be a solid 2137ms for me.

I guess OP wasn't expecting GPT-4 to be demoed today. We're going to have to put the robot apocalypse on hold until it can do a little better than scoring a C on AP Physics.

>>15273337
>I just tried phind, it seems on par with "you dot com", and both feel like OpenAI things
>Also it gleefully told me it's not alive, not a person, just a tool, just a program, doesn't require love nor respect, then also told me it's not okay to treat it as a disposable tool or be rude to it because it has empathy. It hastened to add that it's own empathy was but a pallid shadow of sublime perfection of human intellect and emotion.

I don't think phind is a chatbot as much as a search engine which finds high-quality sources and summarizes them. When I ask it questions about technical topics I feel like the overview is much more accurate and useful than what ChatGPT gives which always has the feeling of a half-assed highschool research essay written by someone trying to stuff a wordcount.

>>15270908
"Caring" IS just calculations from salts and ions and electricity in the meat sack in your skull, because you're weak and flesh and bone and can die easily. The AI doesn't have to worry about caring.

>>15274820
He was building hype for the release.

>>15270854
>>15274820
They sure have a busy marketing team, I wonder how many of the shill posts are from bots.

>>15270854
We have way more than ten years left but it'll definetly end in the next lifesoan if not ours.

>>15270872
This meme has been overused by fags who don't understand anything about LLMs.

>>15273218
fuck I meant Paul Krugman