/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15268194
is that real?
seattle u is a shity university so I don't think you lost anything.
also, I used chatGPT for a lot of my shit and no problem so far

>>15268194
Yes.

>>15268194
go to a different college or community college

>>15268194
you're too lazy & dishonest to be involved in legitimate science, best you'll end up as is yet another impostor who contributes to the replication crisis in exchange for a paycheck. go spend $85 to get yourself a forklift cert, you'll earn more money than scientists, have better hours and you'll avoid all the mental angst of wondering if your lying and laziness will catch up to you eventually, which it probably will.

>>15268211
How is being an ESL fag akin to being lazy? It’s not like the AI is making up my achievements and experience.

>>15268264
you're too lazy & dishonest to be involved in legitimate science, best you'll end up as is yet another impostor who contributes to the replication crisis in exchange for a paycheck. go spend $85 to get yourself a forklift cert, you'll earn more money than scientists, have better hours and you'll avoid all the mental angst of wondering if your lying and laziness will catch up to you eventually, which it probably will.

>>15268264
Post the letter you sent.

>>15268194
Double down and say they are full of shit. Threaten legal action. Take this all the way to the supreme court

>>15268302

>>15268309
I bet the second paragraph made them check

>>15268302
It took me a couple of iterations to get to the desired length and content. Then I just inserted my experience and projects in placeholders and added a couple paragraphs explaining my projects in brief.

This “trick” doesn’t work for drafting the research proposal though.

Captcha: VRGN4X

>>15268325
That whole thing was probably copied almost verbatim from something in the training set.

>>15268194
>>15268196
....and this is why when I see "PhD" I scoff and say "Gunna btfo you, boy." and then do.

Also; Mechanical Engineering
>lmao wrench torquer

>>15268196
>no problem so far
we're waiting until you have more sunk more costs into your career and are collecting a decent check before we decide the time is ripe to start blackmailing you for cash, using your fraudulent past as leverage. you'll fork over whatever you can afford, but it won't be enough, so you'll have to dance and beg and be our servant for the rest of your working life.
t. jew

>>15268358
>>15268367
you niggers are too stupid and jump onto conclusion that I am using direct output from chatGPT. there are much smarter ways to use that bitch. I use it mostly as template generating and paraphrasing tool. it's just automation.

>>15268194
>use a machine to craft a statement
>Noooo! You can not do this!! If you want to learn engineering you must do things manually!!!
kek

>>15268309
lmao. you really used the direct output from chatGPT. you deserve to not go to grad school.

>>15268309
the way I would use chatGPT to draft a personal statement:
- give it your info and ask it what should you write in the statement.
- tell it to give you a <TEMPLATE> only
- fill in the template with your information. describe your project in somewhat detailed way. you must write this part yourself first!
- paraphrase the opening and closing. they're braindead filler shit anyway so probably take 10-15 mins max.
- now, copy and paste paragraph by paragraph and ask it to review your gramma and review the content of each according to the strategy you are aiming for (yes, chatGPT can review, I use it before)
now you should have a mostly great personal statement. give it to your friends to review again.

>>15268415
>you deserve to not go to grad school.
grad school is composed mostly of unqualified diversity and they drag down the intellectual level to their lowest common denominator. intelligent people wouldn't waste their time on it. idiots feel right at home.

>>15268406
>you niggers are too stupid and jump onto conclusion
Im literally the smartest man on this website. Knowledgable, probably not, knows everything? I come here to learn AND teach.

But if its raw perception of base reality?

Hands Down. Bar None. Not Even A Fight.

Youre a charlatan working for a certification. I will stomp you in your own field of expertise EVEN IF IVE NEVER STUDIED IT.

fite me faggot

>>15268309
Wow this is what most applications look like? Utter trash lmao

>>15268465
*it's
*I've

>>15268538
No. It is just some filler paragraphs to bulk your letter. Nobody is retarded enough (at least in STEM) to write that as motivation letter for grad school.

>>15268465
What a retard

>>15268406
I jumped to the conclusion that you're a fucking retard because you think you're worthy of grad school but can't even type your own personal statement from scratch.

Why do you have to write a letter to study at some shitty school, I thought you are there to study engineering not english

>>15268309
That’s reads like a template. You deserved to get rejected anon.

>>15268194
Yeah and you should be but how do they even figure this stuff out?

>>15269141
This. It's a pointless humiliation ritual. Who the fuck cares about these letters? Just enroll the first x people who pay their fees.

>>15269141
>>15269166
In reality, the purpose of an "academic statement" is entirely sociological, not academic. By that I mean to say that a Statement of Purpose is not intended to convey your passion for the subject nor your intellectual aptitude, but rather to function as a form of social signaling. You are basically signaling to the social in-group (the Department, the Professors, etc.) that you are one of them, i.e. that you share their beliefs and values, that you have already been socialized into the petit bourgeois/professional managerial cultural milieu, that you know the lingo, the lifestyle, the norms, etc.

>>15269161
At my uni they would submit every paper we turned in into a database that would check is against basically everything online as well as the papers of other students, so I assume this admission committee did the exact same thing and found an overwhelming match to either an online template or another student’s essay, probably the former. As a side note, when I would submit an essay I could see the report of the plagiarism check and was always worried about a false positive when I checked the report.

>>15269259
That's why the most important thing to include in one of these so-called "academic statements", is actually a catalog of all your social relationships within the world of academia. Name dropping a list of previous advisors, employers, collaborators, etc. will do far more to make your academic statement appealing to the admissions committee than anything you might actually include about your academic interests or ideas or what you have studied and would like to study. In fact, these are almost irrelevant, and if you talk to a professor or someone else who knows what they're talking about, it is likely they will explicitly tell you not to focus too much on your "interests" when writing one of these statements, since admissions committees are not interested in vague and wishy-washy concepts like you "interests" or passion, or even explicit ideas or research subject that you might be interested in.

If you really want to get into a top grad program, don't spend your high school and college studying for the SAT and GRE and doing research and getting good grades. A much better way to allocate your time and resources if you want to get into a top grad program would be to make as many friends at your local country club or make a big donation to your favorite university or NPR station (or better yet, have your parents do so). That's how most midwit yuppies end up getting into these big name universities.

>>15269269
So basically this is easily countered by rewording what the N.N. shits out and passing that through a plagiarism checker.
I wasn't sure if they were using an other N.N. (possibly gpt 3 derived) to figure it out. That would be a giant can of worms.

>>15269325
> So basically this is easily countered by rewording
Depends on what you consider “easily.” Uni plagiarism checkers can still detect similarities in a writing behind the occasional rewording. I’d imagine rewording an another work is how most plagiarizes get caught.

>>15269269
>always worried about a false positive when I checked the report.
You're suffering the consequences of not living in a trust based society. School assumes everyone is a cheater because most of them are. Didn't use to be like that, but it is with zoomers.

>>15269325
what's a good online plagiarism checker?

>>15268194
>i'm too stupid and unethical to write the piece myself
>am i fucked
Yes, by your own laziness and stupidity. You absolutely get what you deserve.

>>15268309
Christ almighty you are genuinely retarded.

>>15268415
>>15268538
>>15269156
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>>15268572
>bulk your letter
Reading comprehension a daunting task for you? OP didn't "bulk out" his letter, the entire thing was ChatGPT garbage. You and OP are both idiots.

>>15268194
That rejection looks suspiciously machine generated, you should call them out on it.

>>15268309
Did you post that verbatim with no editing? [Your name]
Did you do that electric circuit and bridge projects or was that writen by chatgpt?
Because if you did these projects you could sue them, but if you didnt then they have evidence you made it up.
You can also sue them even if you used chatgpt. Its just a writing aid, there should be no problem as long as the information was real, like your projects and references.

>>15270667
This gives me an idea btw.
Im gonna push the meme that theres nothing wrong with plagiarism as long as the information is true.
You ask for essay so heres essay. What do you care if i dint write it? I believe in it and i had to work to find these texts. What difference does it make?