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Why was this shit so popular for awhile and why did it completely fall out of flavour?

>> No.15264939

>>15264854
Because jews hyped the shit out of it in order to sell popsoi magazines and books to retarded normalfags, claiming that it would be the "key to understanding the universe", just like they did with fractals and shit. Meanwhile, the actual theory is a garbled mess of mathematical masturbation which can't be empirically verified.

>> No.15264942

>>15264939
And shockingly it's still getting funding because of their connections. All of the people who shilled it still have tenure and are going to collect a taxpayer-funded research paycheck for decades.

>> No.15264961

Originally everyone was captivated by Susskind's nipples. Then they realized they were listening to a crazy man in a bicycling jersey.

>> No.15264972

>>15264854
it's still going from what I can tell. Now it's mixed in with quantum gravity and brane cosmology and holographic principle and supersymmetry and dark matter/energy and a lot of other things with funny names that may or may not exist

Maybe they should allocate more of their time from creating new theories and instead work on creating cheaper and more effective equipment to test the theories

>> No.15264992

Noone in this thread has ever read an actual textbook or monograph about string theory and related topics.

>> No.15265002

>>15264992
Sure, but I know enough to know it's gay

>> No.15265018

>>15264992
have you ever read the first 3 paragraphs of this page ? It contains everything I mentioned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory

>> No.15265044

>>15264992
>t. fell for jewish tricks

>> No.15265054

>>15264854
String theory almost died but there were some promising results in the 80s and 90s. By 2012, it had fallen out of favor again, but that's also around the time we hit a peak in sensationalist popsci.

>> No.15265074

>>15265054
no, 2012 was a promising time for string theory too. don’t forget KKLT and the fact that the LHC still hadn’t ruled out super symmetry of large extra dimensions (a bread and butter topic of string phenomenology at the time)

now that the LHC has basically ruled out TeV scale SUSY and extra dimensions bigger than say a nanometer now and KKLT appears to have been debunked it looks way worse in the last few years. actually 2022 was a relatively good year for the string folks thanks to islands and so forth but that’s basically pure AdS/CFT with strings only as a historical motivator

>> No.15265075

>>15265074
>super symmetry of large extra dimensions
*supersymmetry or large extra dimensions

>> No.15265280

String Theory failed to make predictions like the mass of the electron and got bogged down in Swampland issues. The theory is probably missing some big ideas that it needs to make predictions.

>> No.15265305

>>15265280
my suspicion is that string theory won’t advance by simply reworking certain assumptions. it needs an actual paradigm shift. what i mean by that is a shift analogous to how Einstein thought about space and time in a way that fundamentally changed the underpinnings of classical physics.

i know i sound like idiot Lee Smolin right now but i do believe it’s true

>> No.15265311

>>15264854
String theory is a promise beyond quantum mechanics and the standard model.

We've been trapped in Quantum bubble for the last ~100 years. String theory gets us out of that bubble and into new physics that is more interesting. The problem is there's a lack of experimental time devoted to string theory because budgets are mostly vested towards standard model experiments as they're more readily accessible. Once we've exhausted standard model experiments, someone will get a bolder idea to push for string theory experiments.

>> No.15265321

>>15265311
this is a literal brainlet post. 1) string theory is in no way replacing quantum theory. string theory IS a quantum theory.
2)nobody in string theory thinks that it can be tested with the technologies available today. they basically all say that in principle what would be needed is an experiment like the LHC but instead of it’s current size of encircling a few hundred acres of countryside, to test string theory it would need to encircle the entire galaxy

both your arguments are dead wrong. is this some bullshit you learned from Sabine?

>> No.15265420

>>15264972
>Maybe they should allocate more of their time from creating new theories and instead work on creating cheaper and more effective equipment to test the theories
that's the job of the phenomenologists, not the theorists
theorists work on more important issues, like the question whether the string theory framework can produce a theory describing anything close to our universe

>> No.15265428

>>15264854
Because Leo Vuyk's raspberry universe model is superior

>> No.15265591

>>15264854
too complex,people didn't understand it or what this shit even was ,to this day I actually don't know anything about it other than that it consider something like universe is made of small threads called strings ,what a load of BS

>> No.15265624

>>15264854
It will be an interesting misconception to look back on once the real theory is discovered. Like looking back on phlogiston. Maybe these ideas will help us asses future ideas better

>> No.15265977

>>15265321
They do test what they can from string theory
>One way to test the theory is performed by colliding together two protons in the Large Hadron Collider so that they interact and produce particles. If a graviton were to be formed in the collision, it could propagate into the extra dimensions, resulting in an imbalance of transverse momentum. No experiments from the Large Hadron Collider have been decisive thus far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_extra_dimensions

>> No.15265981

>>15264992
I have. String theory is not science.
t. physicist
Eat shit faggot

>> No.15266045
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15266045

>>15265981
>String theory is not science.
If it can be saved from its dimension addiction and many worlds delusion, I think I can fix her.

>would

>> No.15266127

>>15266045
Nima has beautiful handwriting, his slides are always a work of art. he could make som buxx by making NFTs

>> No.15266871

>>15266127
nima is a beautiful work of art and his enthusiasm is extremely contagious
pretty much the only theorist nowadays who really activates my almonds to the point i get giddy like when i was a kid learning about principle of least action