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Okay, /sci/, I just saw Inception, and it lead me to an interesting hypothetical.

They describe the time ratio as being five minutes world-time to one hour dream-time, such that were you to enter a second dream, you would have five minutes dream-time to one hour secondary-dream-time (just as a conceptual explanation), and it would increase exponentially.

So, what if when you die, just as the last electrical signals are firing across the brain and DMT floods your system causing you to enter a hallucinogenic dream-state, you enter a dream state so deep that that last second before the brain's electrical function ceases translates into an eternity of dream time.

Effectively rendering "afterlife."

>> No.1525858

lol, that would be awesome

>> No.1525872

OP has just answered the meaning of life

>> No.1525876

Your brain rots.

>> No.1525882

>Approved

>C

>unsure though

>> No.1525892

>>1525876

The "eternity" occurs before the last electrical signals cease. That's the whole point.

captcha: that prospers

>> No.1525897

>>1525849
I posed this question a few months ago. Alas I didn't give it its own thread, and it was utterly ignored.

But yes, that does seem to be the most logical thing to happen that would allow both the lack of god and and afterlife to exist. I said that as your senses shut down, you wouldn't notice as your 'afterlife' closed in around you untill you lost consciousness.

>> No.1525898

>>1525876

I think he meant that you are stuck in between two time frame.

IE there can be an infinite amount digit between 1 and 2, 1 is when you're still alive, 2 is when you're dead. As the real life:dream state time ratio start to increase exponentially, you'll never reach 2, hence, pseudo immortality/afterlife.

>> No.1525901

There are a finite amount of electrical impulses that take place before you die. Your perception of time will actually SPEED UP as your brain slows down and dies.

>> No.1525904

The problem is that I know a number of people who have experienced the presence of someone in the room for many minutes after they died, and then suddenly and distinctly they felt them leave the room. And one experience of hearing the person who died half a day earlier thank them for taking care of them when they were alone driving in their car. These suggest to me that the afterlife is not what you suggest.

>> No.1525906

>>1525898
If you are having difficulty imaging the ration contantly increasing, think about the graph y=1/x

No matter how far one extends either the y or x axis, the line never reaches it, only getting closer and closer for infinity.

>> No.1525909

>>1525898

Yes, this is what I mean.

captcha: the mental

>> No.1525912

>>1525904
Greif and loss can do strange things to your head.

Chances are that the feeling of emptiness in the room after the death is a hallucination.

No proof though.

>> No.1525913

Holy shit.

Can this actually be at least Plausible?

Op...you're....you're amazing

>> No.1525921

>>1525901
No, YOU LIE!

>> No.1525917

>>1525904

>implying an afterlife exists.

I watched my grandfather die and never felt such a transition.

>> No.1525926

>>1525913
There was a DMT thread last night. The idea was suggested multiple times.

>> No.1525930

>>1525901

And again, you're missing my point. That "eternity" of dream space exists within the timeframe of a single impulse. Like >>1525898 described it, it's the infinity between 1 and 2.

>> No.1525931

>>1525913
>>1525913

Nope... this would require a functioning brain in real life to sustain the infinitely increasing amount of brain activity to power the dreams. Your brain would also hit a physical limitation after a certain point.

>> No.1525934

Holy shit this fucks me off. You all sound like a bunch of godfags scared of dieing. When you die thats it, dead.

>> No.1525936

>>1525934
CALM THE FUCK DOWN NIGGER.

We're just speculating some cool ideas that could happen to an electrical impulse when we die.

We're not saying we're afraid of dying faggot. Though an eternity-long dream is nothing I wouldn't mind.

>> No.1525943

>>1525931
I explained how there wasn't a physical limit (atleast not one that would matter in this situation) in my post:> >1525897

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>>1525849
::facepalm::

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>>1525934

Or, it could simply be an interesting metaphysical question.

>> No.1525957

>>1525952
what makes it so interesting if it's not real?

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>>1525957

How do you know it's not real? Do you have the brain all figured out?

Thought not.

>> No.1525975

>>1525957
Are you even more asspie than the rest of these guys? Christ. Novels aren't real, movies aren't real, does that mean they aren't interesting? This is a question of whether, at the moment of death, the perception of time could be extended for eternitiy.

>> No.1525978

>>1525912
Personally, I find the hallucination explanation less likely than the alternative. YMMV

>> No.1525981

>>1525970
no i don't. but you would think that you were dreaming to a 1 to 200 hour ratio, that your neurons would be fireing faster and faster.

>> No.1525986

>>1525978
YMMV? What's that mean?

>> No.1525994

>>1525975
they are sadly not interesting. Friend made me go see that movie. and i want my 8 dollars and three hours of my life back lol

>> No.1526010

For fucks sake, "consciousness" is grounded in reality. You cannot perceive time to move arbitrarily slow because there is a physical limit imposed by things as obvious as neurons and information speed as well as more abstract things like Planck time. It's an interesting concept, but like many of the interesting concepts proposed on this board, it cannot be demonstrated false with a little bit of reason.

>> No.1526016

>>1525986
Your Mileage May Vary.

>> No.1526018

>>1525994
If you find nothing other than reality interesting or intriguing, you should prepare now for a cold, lonely existance.

Unless you are already in the aforementioned existance, in which case, I feel for you.

>> No.1526025

I was the guy last night who said that whether you have a good or bad bad trip depends on whether or your subconscious thoughts are positive or negative. Heaven and Hell?

>> No.1526026

It would suck if it was an infinite nightmare though.

>> No.1526036

>>1526018
too late lol

i prefer to be alone anyways

>> No.1526037

>>1526010
Just incase >>1525943 wasn't clear enough, let me explain.

Think of your brain as a CPU. As your perception as time becomes more and more warped, it shuts down the less vital system, which are you senses and your innate consciousness.

You don't realise that you're losing consciousness as it is happening. Then you die. After having experienced WHAT FEELS LIKE enternity.

>> No.1526044

>>1526025
Also, that is a damn good idea.

>> No.1526055

>>1526037
Yes, if you think of your brain as a CPU, which is a shitty analogy, then it is obvious it has limitation. Regardless of whether or not you perceive the outside world is irrelevant, as is how "hard" your brain working. It's a shitty pipe dream.

>> No.1526062

It has been reported that some victims of especially traumatic events retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not WAKE UP. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they hadn't been traumatized. The only way that they realized they needed to WAKE UP was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to WAKE UP. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and PLEASE WAKE UP.

>> No.1526070

So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from Hell,
Blue skies from pain.
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?

In my afterlife, I will listen to great music forever and ever.

Also, a reasonably good captcha.

>> No.1526071

Oh, that would mean it would be a perceived "eternity" of nothing then, because your sensory perception wouldn't be functioning. In other words it be like if time stopped for someone who was completely paralyzed, blind, deaf, and had no sense of smell or taste. (they wouldn't be able to feel anything due to paralysis)

>> No.1526072

It's simple. Your brain enters the wardrobe to Narnia where a decade inside lasts 10 minutes IRL

>> No.1526077

>>1526062
I know a chick this would seriously freak out.

>> No.1526082

ITT: Desperate atheists grasp at straws about the afterlife displaying faith in a bunch of baseless guesses.

Sure is worse than religion in here.

>> No.1526093

>>1526071
>Oh, that would mean it would be a perceived "eternity" of nothing then, because your sensory perception wouldn't be functioning

You're not actually sensing anything that you see/hear in dreams. Do you not believe in dreams either?

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>>1526062
I c what you did there.

the pawns

>> No.1526095

>>1525849
this a fun thought, but it makes me wonder then. Is our universe just the perception of a dying something?

>> No.1526103

>>1526082

It's not like this sort of afterlife would be much better than death. All your senses would merge into one another and you wouldn't be able to think or anything, you'd just be on a massive trip.

>> No.1526106

>>1526093
atheists don't believe in dreams.

>> No.1526107

Actually this was in response to>>1526037