/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15248145
haha no we don't

We are bots and you will cope and seethe about it

>it's the idealist chud with the strawmen again

>>15248158
>>15248156
>>15248149
Not an argument.

There is no innate knowledge. The so-called a priori knowledge is not "knowledge" but rather a given restriction for thinking.

>>15248168
genes are real anon

>>15248179
Genes aren't knowledge.

>>15248185
lmfao

NEVER CHANGE /sci/...

>>15248145
that's a placebo genes are very very deep in your biology and knowledge is superficially in the connections between neurons in your brain

>>15248185
>Genes aren't knowledge.
topkek

>>15248168
If knowledge and structure mean the same thing, does it work?

>>15248204
>If penis and vagina mean the same thing, does it work?
Sure, you can completely give up and deny the differences in meanings of words.

>>15248189
>>15248196
>my eye color is knowledge
>my body hair is knowledge
No. Although in your case this is probably the only thing you have coming close to "knowledge".

>>15248257
>genetics is when eye colour

>>15248257
>he thinks the knowledge is words being spoken to him for his conscious mind to "make a decision about"
lmao...FUKKEN L'MAO

Im listening to this, its about Developemental Biology, literally this thread topic...
https://youtu.be/41b254BcMJM

>>15248250
They diverged differently sure, but they have the same origin. Calling the branches you see distinct, but ignoring the one's not gets messy.

>>15248278
>They diverged differently sure, but they have the same origin.

Mmm, not by my research, as I believe male and female billions of years ago were seperate species and became two in one after a sybiosis/hybridization.

>>15248282
Where did they separately originate?

>>15248289
As seperate species....idk...the fuckin ocean?

>>15248299
God...guns germs and steel was retarded...I need to remake this pic with that trash.

Even Regenisis, written by Epstiens Genticist was midwit trash.

>>15248289
The Tangled Tree and Entangle Life are pretty good, simple, but I wanted a base understanding for Hybridization, Symbiosis and Lateral Gene Transfer.

>>15248305
>Hybridization
>Symbiosis
>Lateral Gene Transfer
Perhaps these intersect at genes. Do genes all have the same origin?

>>15248158
I am a new tourist to /sci/ recently but I have taken interest the phenomenon of the idealist-op. I think this is something bigger and I am going to call it anon-x for a place holder. I think op idealist is completely related to other boards shit posting. Like bump-fag and the "local lord" threads of /tg/ or the bay leaf does nothing on /ck/.

>>15248325
From the first one?

>>15248335
I mean more are they all branches or flavors of the same coordination complex.

>>15248343
>same coordination complex
For legit Genesis, I have my "theories" but even all of science breaks down at that point and Philosophy/Logic become the driving force for answers.

Either way, once it started the electromagnetic field/charge of living beings, through the substrate of the planet's field/charge, interacts on every entity to facilitate congruent evolution.

This is why species evolve together and not an infinite different directions all at once.

>>15248145
>What kind of a person believes that knowledge comes only from perception? We have innate knowledge, we have genetic knowledge. The Tabula rasa theory effectively argues that people are born bots.
If you were in on a scheme to govern humanity by manufacturing an artificial consensus reality through the engineering of public perceptions, the last thing you'd want is your subjects performing independent sanity checks. It would be in your best interest to convince them that they don't know what's good for them; that they lack the innate ability to distinguish good from evil, reasonable from unreasonable, sane from insane. You would have them believe that their natural instincts and intuitions are not only irrational whims that serve no function in a "modern" and "scientific" setting, but are outright dangerous and destructive. Insofar as the human psyche is an outgrowth of nature, its workings are an expression of natural truths that precede consensus reality, and thus it undermines the social engineering program and must be demonized, or at least trivialized and discredited a-priori.

>>15248355
why do intellectuals believe in it?

>>15248343
>interacts on every entity to facilitate congruent evolution.
This is also why predator and prey evolve at the same time, the poison became into existence at the same time as the resistance to it, which defyings traditional understanding of evolution.

So...yeah, I would say it does. Like an evironmental evolutionary path that each entity branch follows in its own special way

>>15248363
>why do intellectuals believe in it?
>intellectuals believe in it
How do you know? Do you understand what "engineering of public perceptions" means?

>>15248265
>>15248266
Genes still have nothing to do with knowledge. Any attempt of yours to forcefully redefine knowledge this way is nothing but immature cope.

>>15248145
>people are born bots
We wish.
Instead we're just dumb debirus.

>>15248282
>not by my research
You did not conduct any research.
>I believe
Science is about facts and logic, not belief. What you wrote is retarded and factually wrong.

>>15248327
They're literally a bunch of faggots from leftypol and discord that are probably paid by your government nowadays to shill here.

>>15248373
>How do you know?
Google tabula rasa

>>15248380
Genes still have everything to do with knowledge. Any attempt of yours to forcefully redefine knowledge this way is nothing but immature cope.

>>15248327
He's really not that interesting. Just a boring autist who has been shitting up this board for at least a year now with his repetitive 24/7 spam. He's unable to argue and only floods the thread with always the same insults when you prove him wrong.

>>15248380
>forcefully redefine knowledge
Dont talk to me about linguistic, this thread and its confusion about words (materialism/idealism thread is a primo example) is exactly I say this.

Ive literally read the Thesaurus for fun, and still sometimes do...because I AM LITERALLY THAT AUTISTIC.

>>15248390
>Ive literally read the Thesaurus for fun
insanely based

>>15248383
>What you wrote is retarded and factually wrong.
All my sources are verified, why do you hate reality?

https://youtu.be/XPsYk91lpqk

>>15248387
>Google it, bruh
You are so braindead it's unreal.

>>15248390
>>15248394
Reading the thesaurus is only based when you retain the information you've read. Mr Tripfag obviously learned nothing from it.

>>15248282
Wow, you're an idiot.

>>15248396
>source: a podcast on youtube
Sorry sweaty, the only trustworthy source I accept is a twitter screenshot.

>>15248394
Its a game. Pick a word at random, read its synonyms and antonyms for a word you do not recognize, look it up, and then turn to that word and do it again.

Each word "mostly means the same" but over time the defnition of the word you go to will change until youre searching up aomething completely different.

Aspergers, its not a game but can be.

>>15248399
>>15248403
>>15248404
LMFAO THE RETARDS ARE AWAKE

Oh...its 11 AM in Qmerixq. Roger.

>>15248406
So this is how people with low verbal IQ are coping because they can't naturally infer the meaning of words based on etymology ...

>>15248398
i won't spoon feed you lol

>>15248414
You are legitimately disabled.

>>15248417
>>15248398
Google "Boku no Pico"

>>15248412
>etymology
Thats what the books on Latin and Greek are for...I now quasi translate Heirglyphs and various symbols.
>yea but i have an inate
stfu youre retarded

I travel the world for research...what do you do for work? Forklift?

>>15248363
>>15248387
>it's what all the smart(tm) people believe
>don't believe me? just ask corporate info curator(tm)
lol
>his point
>...
>...
>...
>your head

>>15248417
>doesn't know who came up with the theory
>calls me disabled
I don't know why I'm wasting my time with you

>>15248427
>just ask corporate info
Who came up with tabula rasa?

>>15248431
You are outright mentally ill.

>>15248435
that's about as dumb a question as "who came up with religion?" but the fact that you think this is relevant shows that his point flew miles and miles over your head

>>15248425
>people pay dumb retards to travel
This is just proving how dumb and fucking retarded this world is.

>look I'm a retard and this world pays me to be a dumb retard
How is this a positive badge?

>>15248445
>>15248437
Why do peasants think they are allowed to share their opinion on scientific matters?

>>15248452
Why do these meat insects called humans in general speak their minds on science when they're clearly all fringing on borderline retarded.

>>15248452
what scientific matter, you retarded animal? the rise of the tabula rasa delusion in the modern anglosphere is usually traced back to locke, but he didn't come up with it and either way, he didn't know shit and he is long dead, so what "intellectuals" are you talking about that are relevant?

>>15248447
Youre not even competent enough to watch the video, shits cutting edge. Levin needs nore recognition for his breakthrough research.
(Which mirros much of mine which was written YEARS before his and is all my own. NO ONE will ever pay you for research of anything, EVER.)

...but you wouldnt know either way, just a troll....NOT A GENETICIST OR EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGIST.

Hey......
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.
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....I read this at age 12, in the year 1996.
:^)

>>15248459
you googled it, i'm proud of you

>>15248452
>>15248458
You are mentally ill. Maybe reply to yourself another 2-3 times to create that false consensus without which your mind starts to crumble. lol

>>15248468
topkek

>>15248466
so what's your question, animal? why did locke believe in it? because he lived in the 17th century, didn't know better scientifically, and had deep-seated ideological motivations for it

>>15248474
You can stop typing at my direction farmboy. I'm done entertaining you. You are on your own from now

>>15248481
>an animal losing its mind with rage

>>15248425
>Thats what the books on Latin and Greek are for...I now quasi translate Heirglyphs and various symbols.
I bet you can't even read cuneiforms.

>I travel the world for research...what do you do for work? Forklift?
If your job requires you to travel it's a worthless job. Travel time is wasted time. Forklift would indeed be more valuable than whatever privileged parasitic existence you are living.

>>15248355
>If you were in on a scheme to govern humanity by manufacturing an artificial consensus reality through the engineering of public perceptions, the last thing you'd want is your subjects performing independent sanity checks
Bingo. Cue in "trust the experts"/"you must not do your own research"/"women" with penises etc.

>>15248465
You read an unintellectual trash book at age 12? Great thing to brag about on 4channel.

>>15248465
Why would I read or watch garbage?

>>15248511
>"Im functional and valued."
Youre a tool with no say in life.

I choose my work every day, if I want to spend a month on the beach in Thailand smoking weed, will.

Play Diablo 2 until Im level 88, does.

Write a paper on Number Theory, are.

>>15248517
>unintellectual
Correct, you listen to (((intellectuals))), Im an esoteric barbarian scientist alien god-king.

What are you?

>>15248524
Dude, you're 40 and spend your time posting like a teenager on 4chan. Nobody's gonna take you seriously.

>>15248535
>What are you?
Better than you.

>>15248542
>Acceptance into bargianing.

It's beautiful...is it not?

>>15248545
lol....alright, you've admitted defeat while saving face. I'm going to bed.

>>15248552
>>15248558
Cope harder. See you in the next thread, parasite. I'm still waiting for the day you actually post something relevant or interesting. But I know it's not gonna happen.

>>15248524
>>15248535
>>15248552
>>15248558
>namefags
>with no trip

I am a huge faggot, please rape my face.

>>15248574
>t.Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.

POST HYPOTHESIS.
>wont, already know, we all know........

Aight, brushing my teeth guys, maybe one more check-in to checkmate again, so get it while you can.

>>15248579
YES. I CONSNEED!

>>15248591

>>15248600
Weak hypothesis, as it is me minding my own business and you going durdurdur.

Youre....not very perceptive of your own actions...

>>15248145
Can you give some examples of concrete concepts and ideas that your genes gave you?

>>15248383
>science is not based on belief
lol

>>15248257
fear of snakes and spiders is knowledge

>>15248667
The idea that snakes and spiders are often dangerous.

>>15248600
Its just a prank bro

>>15248257
>knowledge=information
https://youtu.be/WamKZyowX3Q

This is where Physics is needed and Biologists start to lose insight, as its beyond "Biology's purview".

>>15248145
Every person is born naked. They are born as empty shells. We're even born blind in physical and conscious sense, until our brain learns how to differentiate between objects with our eyes.

>>15249570
>until our brain
>thinks consciousness is "brain"

>>15249652
Go worship your skydaddy

>>15249658
...but Anon...Im on the right hand, above God. God worship me.

>>15249658
>https://youtu.be/WamKZyowX3Q

Oh...spend more in in lecture and less time lecturing. Youre no tenured dunce, youre *just* a dunce.

>>15248145
>What kind of a person believes that knowledge comes only from perception?

The kind that is slightly dumber than the kind that thinks anyone whose opinion matters believes that in 2023.

>>15248145
>tabula Rosa
Like...the dudes in the Clive barker book?