/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15238349
>This should be a flat line
>It’s not exactly flat.
If you want to get pedantic about it, is anything trustworthy not aligning exactly with expectation? The accusation doesn't account for margin of error so is it accurate?

>>15238357
>It’s not exactly flat
Disingenuous strawman.
The "not flat" part is immediately after vaccination and decreases monotonically to the expected range.
If it were just margin of error you would see comparable fluctuations all along the time axis.

Are you a paid shill or do you do it for free?

>>15238391
I was quoting the tweet verbatim

>>15238349
who would've know that the COVID vaccine heals and prevents any serious cardiovascular events?

>>15238391
>you would see comparable fluctuations all along the time axis
Why would someone start having problems like six months after the vaccine but not soon after, that doesn't sound right. The chart looks like what I'd expect if the vaccine was causing some problem

>>15238415
Who are you arguing with?
I'm obviously blaming the vax.
I'm arguing against the shill claiming it is normal and within the margin of error.

>>15238349
I seriously can't understand what this graph is even trying to say. What the fuck do the axes even mean? The labels don't make sense

>>15238349
So that's why the CDC always considered "unvaccinated" before 14 days?

>>15238457
trust the science!

>>15238414
Lol. In all seriousness, I at least think it's somewhat of a positive that cardiovascular events do mostly normalize after a while. The vaccinated who get through the first 2-3 months without anything significant happening should thank their lucky stars and swear off any future doses.

>>15238457
4.5% of the serious cardio events post-vaccine were experienced between 0 and 8 days

>>15238457
It's tracking heart attacks and similar (serious cardiovascular events) in relation to when you got a covid vaccine. As in it takes people who got a heart attack, and then see how many days ago they had their vaccine. On the X axis you have number of days since the event in question (the vaccine) and on the Y you have share of events (the heart attacks)

If you took something unrelated like say days after 1 st of march or the last time you used a green shirt it should be mostly flat with random variation. Since 1st of march or green shirts doesn't really have any impact on your heart attacks you would expect equal amounts of heart attacks 50 days after it or 100 days after it or 5 days after as in the events would happen evenly across time. Now if you take something that does have an effect like say last time you ate a triple bypass burger then you would see that the heart attacks concentrate more on days closest to that particular thing. Since heart attacks seem to be lot more likely following the vaccine it would imply that it's causing them.

>>15238457
I think it's looking at total cardiovascular events in the vaccinated, and then plotting when those events occurred after vaccination. For example, 4.5% of all events happened within the first day after vaccination, 2% happened around the 8 day mark, 0.5% around the 32 day mark. If the vaccine is neutral for cardiovascular events, then you'd expect to see a flat line. The fact that they're so front loaded makes it seem like it's not a correlation, but that the vaccine is a causation of cardiovascular events, with the negative effect tapering off over time.

>>15238349
What is this supposed to represent?
If it counts exactly one event per person (i.e. a person with heart disease will only count once), then it seems not too interesting since all it would mean is that most people who had heart problems had a "major event" quickly while the people who already didn't have any heart problems never experienced anything.
Without a control group (equivalent chart with people who did not necessarily take the vaccine) it's worthless.

>>15238487
That's only if heart attacks are the only side effect.

>>15238506
Here's a substack with more details. He calls it total events, so I assume it's not a one event per person basis. He also tracks deaths and shows deaths elevate after vaccination.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/game-over-medicare-data-shows-the

>>15238487
That's how all things operate, it's like saying gunshots aren't dangerous cause if you don't die in the first 2 weeks you are probably fine. All damage normalizes over time.

>>15238447
I can't tell who is arguing for what, I just said my opinion

>>15238479
yes

>>15238349

>>15238349
Pisses and shits all over Strawman
That's you

I'm surprised this didn't get more traction, and I was hoping more anons would look at the entire blog post here >>15238539. Deaths elevating at the vaccine isn't a good look, but maybe I'm missing something.

>>15238349
>doesn't into russian roulette
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Huk3yifWcJS0/

>>15238479
>So that's why the CDC always considered "unvaccinated" before 14 days?
yes, to hide all the hundred's of thousands who died immediately after the injections.

"safe and effective, just ignore the first couple weeks after dosage of the vaccine trials on the public"

Why? Vaxxies are still the majority.

>>15242406
Obese people are now the majority of humans also.

>>15242406
Says who? Your government?

>>15242410
Only if you count countries like the USA & UK. Rest of the world is not obese like you retards.

>>15242429
>Only if you count countries like the USA & UK.
Very few countries are not obese. Most all of Latin America is worse than USA even.
If you factor out Blacks in the USA, obesity is quite low.

>>15242426
kek, I raff when the "news" says shit like 80% of people are vaccinated! Of the 100+ people I know in my social circle, work, etc. only about 10 are vaccinated.

>>15238349
So, what about the vax-dieoff that was supposed to happen, /pol/fags?

>>15242455
What's the news, something like 15-20 million so far.
*That's the entire world, not everything happens in burgerland ameritards.

>>15242480
Yeah around that many. About 500k in the US alone.

>>15242480
15 million people have dropped dead and I haven't even known one.
Right.

>>15242485
There are 8 billion people in the world.

>>15242485
I haven't known one yet either, though two through relatives/friends did.
But to be fair I don't know hardly anyone who got those vaccines either.

>>15242486
Most of which weren't vaccinated. Where I live, 90% of people got vaccinated.

>>15242495
>Where I live, 90% of people got vaccinated.
LMAO! And you believe that? That's so cute.
Guess you are scared you made the wrong choice and want company so badly.

>>15242495
8,000,000,000 / 15,000,000 = 533

So you'd need to know on average 533 people to know one who dropped dead from the vaccine.

>>15242499
Mexico stats are like 90% and I everyone I know got at least 1 jab, usually Pfizer, but many got the chinese one (me), aztrazeneca (me too), Sputnik, Moderna or others.

>>15242503
Again, that's a retarded number seeing as almost all vaccinated people live in developed countries.
Divide that number by 8 and I'd believe you.
And I work in sales, so yes, I know a good 200 people who I would have noticed if they had keeled over. Yet none of them even mentioned anything.

>>15242505
>Mexico stats are like 90% and I everyone I know got at least 1 jab, usually Pfizer
Wow you picked the wrong country to lie about fake vato. You got all of that disinformation wrong. You must live near MC/Tampico if you have been fed that propaganda to the point you believe it. JAJAJAJA!

>>15242508
>I know a good 200 people who I would have noticed if they had keeled over.
I know more than that, and over a dozen who have died. Our anecdotal evidence doesn't align. Who to possibly believe?

>>15242508
>And I work in sales
post job info and your business and title at that business so we can verify it.

>>15242508
>Again, that's a retarded number seeing as almost all vaccinated people live in developed countries.
That's why "developed" countries now are experiencing a worse "above average death rates" than they experienced during WWI or WWII!

>>15242508
There are regularly threads about people asking why everyone seems to have gone. People just aren't showing up to work. Vacancies in jobs are at the highest they've ever been but it's also an economic depression on par with the 1930s where people absolutely need the work to survive.

>>15242541
>There are regularly threads about people asking why everyone seems to have gone.
They really ask that in China where around 30-40 million people have just vanished during the lockdowns.

>>15242511
Depends on the sate and city.
Cities ranged from 50 to 90%. mine is close to 85%
Rural areas are like 30% to 60%.
>>15242515
yeah, right, nigga, fuck off.
>>15242541
yeah, and apparently they all died silently.

>>15242558
I mean it's like the fucking holocaust, millions dead but no mass grave sites.
I'm calling alarmist Bullshit. Very common for this site.
I'm old enough to remember
>"See you in September"
>Dam threads
etc, etc.
Complete hogshit that ammounted to nothing but exaggerations

>>15242563
60 million people die every year. That's 120 million in two years. You think 15 million extra deaths would be that noticeable?

>>15242724
yeah, that's statistically significant

>>15242775
It's an increase in mortality of 12.5%. Excess mortality in Western countries has exceeded that by a wide margin. And to be clear, I didn't make the claim of 15 million deaths due to the vaccines, I just don't think that number would be particularly noticeable if spread out globally over a time span of two years.

>>15242724
>60 million people die every year. That's 120 million in two years. You think 15 million extra deaths would be that noticeable?
This.
Plus many countries required people that "died with the virus" be cremated.
Way more than 15 million people have died due to the vaccines, they just aren't counted as "vaccine deaths" due to politics.

>>15242724
That's 25% more per year you dunce

>>15238479
this has been the scam from the outset of the human trials, just DQ everyone in the vaccine arms that develops a problem in the period when you expect them to develop problems. and also bury adverse reactions as psychosomatic/anxiety whenever possible like with maddie de garay

>>15244486
This. They kicked people out of the trials if they had serious side effects so they could say there weren't any.

>>15244449
The 15 million vaccine deaths would be spread across two years. See >>15242789. 12.5% doesn't even cover the excess mortality in Western countries.

>>15244183
>>15242724
>You think 15 million extra deaths would be that noticeable?
So can people finally shut up about the holocaust?

>>15244706
>So can people finally shut up about the holocaust?
The population of Germany at that time was 86 million. 15 million out of 86 million (17%) is a little different than 15 million out of 8 billion (0.1875%).

>>15244794
The Holocaust was mostly people from Czechoslovakia and Poland. Get back to your history books.

>>15244706
>So can people finally shut up about the holocaust?
Jews will never shut up as long as they control the media/Hollywood. Even though only around 4 million jews were killed and around 8 million other people (non-jews) were murdered.

Pales in comparison to Soviets or China. China has murdered over 100 million of their own citizens in the last 100 years. Staggering.

>>15238349
>https://twitter.com/stkirsch/status/1629935421089255424/photo/1
>"look at this data"
>"The people who make this data credible WOULD NEVER release this data"


Holy shit this is stupid, this guy is making conjectures about unreleased data

False flag guys, it's fake data. I'm starting to think the real jews are the covid deniers.

>>15244818
Lol, fine, call it a population of 150 million, you still end up with 10% compared to 0.1875%.

>>15244825
>this guy is making conjectures about unreleased data
Someone sent him a USB with unreleased Medicare data.