/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15236831
Pure is virgin
Applied is chad

Easy

>Applied
Wageslave mentality
>Pure
Ascended Theologian mentality

*pplied mathematicians are reject physicists

I have grown to hate people who prefer applied math.
I alway prefered pure but I didn't mind applied. It's just that people who prefer applied are usually the kind of people who just want to do math for the money etc. They don't really get it.

>>15236831
it's better a virgin girl than a whore, simple as this

>>15236832
>Pure
>Doesnt need to fit reality, changes any definition at any time for any reason, 1+1=3 becomes proofed.
>virgin

Time fir me to leave earth...

>>15236858
yeah you should. see ya later faggot

>>15236863
I cant, the techonology need has to be kept from shitbag humans like yourself.
>Says who?
The Pentagon, you know...the shitheads Ive consulted for regularly...
>Larp!
Eric has been contacted and dude isnt even a threat to national security...shits easy, IF youre not retarded...

>>15236872
I swear there are more schizos on /sci/ than /x/ and /pol/ combined.

>>15236876
Youre not a scientist of any kind, why do you think youre competent to judge even yourself?

>He thinks hes smart, only posts soimemes and jackfaces.
>Is in realiry a fucking retard that took a class because they want money and he want to feel smart.

DISGUSTING HUMAN, KILL YOURSELF.

>>15236831
Applied math shouldn't be an undergraduate major because you need the "pure" math basis in analysis to get anywhere with so-called "applied" math. So IMO pure math is chad and "applied math" is virgin-tier for undergrad, because those retards can't probably can't even follow the proof of Picard-Lindelöf theorem or do an epsilon-delta proof to save their lives. However, at graduate level, applied math is chad and pure math is virgin because mastering the intersection of math with an industrial field is how you get money, whereas pure mathematicians are poorfags.

>>15236831
most scientists are only comfortable with math as an applied concept. most scientists are also retarded.

>>15236937
>whereas pure mathematicians are poorfags.

>>15236959
You know it's true, puremathcuck. Maybe instead of jacking off over category theory and p-adic numbers you should have been studying machine learning and AI to become an alpha wageslave at Globohomo Corp.

>>15236966
>studying machine learning and AI
I did, and cracked its maximum abilities (PER COMPUTER ARCHITECTURE) which dictates programming, which I also fully understand into the field of Theoretical Computer Science.

No, my son, youre so far below we are no longer the same species...

>>15236966
Oh, why do you think Elon went from "AI danger!" to "I want one too."?
Me. Thank me for that. All I had to do was break it/show its breakable.

High places, gents...high places.

>>15236974
Personally I would consider Theoretical CS as applied but obviously the border is blurred.

>>15236974
>>15236978
But are you rich though? If not nobody cares lol
lmao
kek even

>>15236831
Applied = chad. Pure = virgin (though there are some exceptions).

50 years ago it was the opposite, but pure math has been a slow dissent toward overdefinition, excessive "symbology," and real-world uselessness ever since.

Every time I see a pure math grad say they "suck at basic arithmetic," I want to tear down the education system.

>>15236983
Well, it isnt Applied until you, you know...actually try to build it. I fully admit, my Engineering field is lacking, same with Applied, so I stay mostly in the area of Theory in most fields. I can cook up ideas but Im also too busy to see shit through on every thing I do.

>Doin' what?
>>15236986
Field research on Genetics and Theology, mostly, and some Pure Maths for a hobby.

Rich? What is rich to you? Unlimited travel, no schedule except visas. Freedom to work on whatever I want, period. Visiting places like Afghanistan to photo op my Math-Peen.

>>15237011
>overdefinition, excessive "symbology," and real-world uselessness
Facts. Im glad there are people like Wil'in-Out Wildberger to take up the torch.

>>15236937
You know the difference between Applied Math and Pure math in undergrad is typically just a pick of sequences right?

Like do you take PDE 1 and 2 or Stats 1 and 2 (applied focus beyond differential equations and math stat that everyone takes) or do you take Abstract Algebra 1/2 or Analysis 1/2.

There's no real difference at the undergrad level because the undergrad math degree is very fucking broad.

Anyway, to answer your question OP, there's no difference at the undergrad level, you'll be taking 90%+ of the same courses. You only start to see differences at the graduate level. All undergrad courses (both those considered more applied or pure) are pretty much absolutely necessary for graduate school in either disciplines. This is also why most undergrad degrees in math are just math and make no distinction between pure or applied in their title.

Saying that though, if you want to do applied math as an undergrad, major in physics and then do graduate school in applied math. Physics will be a much more applied, intuition focused math degree than any undergrad applied math.

>>15237039
That difference is significant IMO. To do ODE/PDE/numerical analysis, you should have a solid foundation in real and complex analysis, and as you say yourself, applied math people skip it. At least it was/is the case at my school that applied math undergrads don't take analysis, but a sequence on methods. Also my perception of "applied" courses is that they are much lighter on proofs, which is what a math major is really about. Computations are important, but they're downstream from the theory.

>>15236831
Women make the choice if you're a chad or not and they would call you a virgin no matter what mathematics you did

>>15236831
Study pure mathematics for its own sake. You should be smart enough to know how to make money. Your degree won't do shit for you.

The only analysis I took during my undergrad was Numerical analysis. Took two abstract algebra courses though.

>>15236831
>pure
virgin jewish schizo theories disconnected from reality
>applied
chad and gives you the power to act on the world.

>>15237065
No, they typically still have to take a real analysis class. The analysis sequence is just more advanced and steps into complex analysis. And no you don't need it at all to do PDE or numerical analysis. You can rely a lot on intuition and linear algebra. Those sequences are lighter on proofs but proofs are not the point of math. Proofs came after application and always come after application. If anything, in the real applied world, outside proving error and time of algorithms, applied math sits at the perfect nexus for rigorizing real problems enough for others to find novel math about it.

All the great applied mathematicians do this, they don't even necessarily work on many complex proofs outside the obvious, they just define a rigorous definition for what people in the field are actually seeing. And that's only the academic applied mathematicians who do have to take a lot of proof focused courses in a PhD.

The industry mathematicians work at about the consistent definition level. Typically they're work gets passed on to the academic applied mathematicians (i.e., they're the ones who actually contact them and give them work).

You really only need the basics of proofs and a basic understanding of analysis (which you won't ever use but will keep in the back of your head) for working in industry or for government. The education at the undergrad level is fine, if I was actually going to fix anything with it it'd be forcing every single applied math course, including calculus and linear algebra, to incorporate programming. There really is not much applied math without programming and thinking computationally anymore and the most important part of applied math is making something actually useful for a wider audience.

>>15238015
Its sounds like you know a lot about this. Do you have any advice for an undergraduate applied math student? I am also taking a minor in comp sci, where I took 2 programming courses, algos course, and have two more of my choice left to go.

>>15236858
>Thinks women care about abstract nonsense

>>15236937
What kind of trash university did you study at where applied math students do not take real analysis?

>>15238060
Who the fuck are you quoting, fag?

Pure means you were smarter. Applied means you're having an easier life and making more money.

>>15238141
>https://amath.washington.edu/undergraduate-major-applied-mathematics
They take the regular calculus sequence (no proofs) first year, then a MATLAB class, and where there should be an introductory analysis sequence, they do a mish-mash of ODE/PDE and linear algebra (also just methods, no proofs). Then in the upper division electives, there's no indication that they are required to take a proper analysis sequence either. This is the program at a supposed top school in applied math, where I'm sure the graduate level education is solid, but the undergrad program just seems substandard and lazy to me as a "pure" math major at this same school.
>>15238015
You know that the idea of convergence is applied over and over again in ODE/PDE and numerics, but you think it is okay to gloss over the technical foundations of how that works? At that point, I don't consider that studying math, but engineering. Different philosophies, I guess.

>pure math
Tranny fantasy larpers, almost as pseud as philosofags
>applied math
Wagie cucks who fell for the "muh career" meme
>schizo non-standard /sci/ math
Based and black pilled intellectuals

>>15238300
How is that not just an engineering degree?
My applied math degree had me take the usual Calculus sequence, Introduction to proofs, MATLAB, R, Linear Algebra (two courses, one was computational the other abstract), Real Analysis, Complex Variables, Probability, Mathematical Statistics, Methods in ODEs, Methods in PDEs, Optimization, and Numerical Methods.
I even took point-set topology, intro functional analysis, and intro differential geometry as electives.

>>15238385
>How is that not just an engineering degree?
I think the program is basically a cashgrab, meant for people who couldn't get into engineering or CS but also are too stupid for (real) math or physics.
>My applied math degree had me take the usual Calculus sequence, Introduction to proofs, MATLAB, R, Linear Algebra (two courses, one was computational the other abstract), Real Analysis, Complex Variables, Probability, Mathematical Statistics, Methods in ODEs, Methods in PDEs, Optimization, and Numerical Methods.
>I even took point-set topology, intro functional analysis, and intro differential geometry as electives.
This is what "applied math" should be. In my opinion it shouldn't be separate from "pure math", it should just be "pure math" + programming and more ODE/PDE/numerics. As it so happened, I architected my math degree to be like this, even though I was in the "pure math" department.

>>15238401
I enjoy pure math, just not tedious crap like number theory, combinatorics, or abstract algebra. (they're boring, don't blame me)

>>15238430
>I enjoy pure math, just not tedious crap like number theory, combinatorics, or abstract algebra. (they're boring, don't blame me)
Same. I did one course in group theory and called it good for abstract algebra. I also went to a number theory seminar and I literally fell asleep during. But that's no excuse for these zoomerfags to not take analysis in their "applied math" degrees.