/sci/ - Science & Math

[math]e^{\pi\sqrt{163}} \approx 640320^{2} + 744 [/math]

>>15206067
weirder

[math]e^{\pi}-\pi \approx 20 [/math]

>>15206064
You mean liquid carbon.

>>15206071
what do parallel squiggle line and e mean

>>15206071
ANGRY

>>15206076
God I hope this is bait

>>15206064
0.99999... =1

Electrical energy isn't transmitted by electrons moving through a wire.

>>15206081
prove it, undergrad.

>>15206079
if you cant explain to me what that means in a way that makes sense to a retard then you probably dont understand well enough and/or are retarded with the intellectual equivalence of a five year old like me at the time of this post

>>15206091
e is the base of the natural logarithm or 2.718....
[math]\approx[/math] means "almost equal to"

baiting succeeded

>>15206096
thanks chief

>>15206064
Vitalism (the idea that there is a soul) was once popular but the advancements in 19th and 20th century science disproved it conclusively

>>15206100
Do we have the papers that did so?

>>15206100
>conclusively
lmfao get a job, research isnt for you....

>>15206067
Why is this weird

>>15206103
It was a gradual process

>>15206105
You seem upset at the fact that science regularly makes definite progress

>>15206109
Not him but every 3 steps forward is 3 steps sideways in science. Like evolution has no such thing as more evolved there is no such thing as progress, only paths chosen and unchosen

>>15206109
How does one disprove something that by definition cannot be detected?

>>15206113
I don't have the time for your incoherent rambling.

>>15206109
>that science regularly makes definite progress
I have a Unified Theory of Everything, all of your scientists are literal "commoner peons" to me.

ALL OF THEM.

You seem to not be able to accept that who you thought was smart was equally stupid as you are...deal with it.

>larp
Come back with a thesis...we'll take about your grade then.

>>15206115
>>15206117
See >>15206116

>>15206119
Ok so you're just trolling, good to know.

>>15206064
Humans will eventually become extinct.

>>15206126
Stating facts and refusing to engage with schizos isn't trolling

>>15206119
>basic english
"I dont understand."
(Pretend to not understand so you dont have to pubpicly aknowledge being wrong.)

Stop lying, you common fool.

>>15206134
You should know that your posts demonstrate that vitalism goes hand-in-hand with severe mental illness

>>15206132
How is it "schizo" to say How does one disprove something that by definition cannot be detected?

>>15206107
It has to do with modular forms I believe
And modular forms have to do with number theory, including Fermat's last theorem, etc
Not weird maybe but related to some interesting things

>>15206147
You can't define something to be undetectable, because whether or not it's detectable is not up to your definitions. The fact that you don't realize simple things like this makes you schizo

>>15206117
I'm not the the one you're responding to, but I've seen this pic posted before on /sci/. Seems like you're quite proud of reading Euclid. May I ask what you've done with that knowledge so far?

>>15206162
Something which is by definition immaterial can't be detected by material means. If you mean vitalism in the 18th century sense where people argued that living things cannot exist without something besides matter then yes it has been disproven fairly conclusively. If you mean vitalism in the philosophical sense where something immaterial distinguishes living and non-living things, then that is impossible to falsify.

Also, until consciousness can be explained purely as a result of physical phenomena, you can hardly say that living things are not distinct in some manner.

>>15206100
>abstract things aren't real
Lmao have fun living your caveman life

>>15206162
I didn't define the soul, ancient people did

>>15206100
false, the idea that every person has within them a spirit or natural character unique to themselves and that spirit, soul or whatever determines the individual's potential and how it interacts with it's environment is all confirmed by the dna theory.
furthermore, dna, like a soul is immortal. dna passes from generation to generation changing and learning, but it never dies

>>15206170
>Something which is by definition immaterial can't be detected by material means
>by material means
Why are you shifting goal posts?
>vitalism in the philosophical sense where something immaterial distinguishes living and non-living things
As science has shown, there is no real demarcation between living and non-living things, so yes your philosophical vitalism has been falsified too.

>>15206175
Your imagination doesn't correspond to reality. Even children realize this.

>>15206186
So? They were as schizo if you if they defined it to be undetectable

>>15206187
Your DNA can be destroyed quite easily. Take your meds

>>15206190
>Your imagination doesn't correspond to reality. Even children realize this.
Strawmanning, nice argument

>>15206190
your DNA has been alive since the dawn of life billions of years ago

>>15206190
>Your imagination doesn't correspond to reality. Even children realize this.
Your "reality" is just something constructed entirely from your own perception and within the confines of your mind. Even high schoolers understand this, even some bright middle schoolers.

Try to define any physical thing in reality for me, from purely atomic concepts. Protip: you can't. All that really exists is mathematics, and our universe / "reality" is merely a construct within that framework.

>>15206203
>any physical thing in reality for me
vacuum

>>15206203
>"reality" is just something constructed entirely from your own perception and within the confines of your mind. Even high schoolers understand this
Because of hormonal changes during high school years, it's true that some teenagers can have egotistic/solipsistic thoughts like that. Eventually, you'll grow out of it though.

>>15206207
Clever argument. Could you elaborate your philosophical position as well, in addition to the substance-less insults? Or do you not have one and you're just saying whatever comes to mind?

>>15206206
Sure. But, usually by "vacuum" people mean empty space and time, rather than complete absence of anything. So, define space and time for me.

>>15206187
How does your dna pass on if you don't have kids?

>>15206213
DNA thrives of the destruction of failed experimental versions of itself. DNA is immortal, you are a rapidly decaying, temporarily animated sack of compost. If your DNA doesn't want to be a failed experiment then it will choose not to be one.

>>15206212
say empty space not what I mean by vacuum; I mean the real nothing like you describe. A spot or particle or volume or universe of nothing, at whatever scale and isolation you want for it to have no surroundings or interactions. Surely I can define nothing as a physical thing in reality with only the concepts of "physical," "thing," and "reality;" I think you agree so far to take those for granted, given that's how you want "what you're referring to" to be communicable.

Not raging. This is an interesting conversation.

>>15206213
>How does your dna pass on if you don't have kids?
not <your DNA>, the individual. DNA, the species.

>>15206139
>vitalism goes hand-in-hand with severe mental illness
Ive visited nearly every major Religious building on the planet...Ive visited a cult in Korea, celebrated in Peru, Buddhist new year...

Tell me more about this human behavior of "Religion".

>>15206165
>Seems like you're quite proud of reading Euclid.
No, dumbass, this is an example of a geometric equation that I dont understand how to reverse engineer it.

I also post this one, I couldnt quite solve it either. I got about a quarter way to solving it...which is rare, because yes....Im that smart.

Prop.17 isnt normal for human geniuses, I would know, I travel all over the world studying the worlds greatests and trying to beat them. Most of them have been dead for over 1,000 years.

>>15206165
>May I ask what you've done with that knowledge so far?
Oh...I used it to measure the dimensions of heaven and communicate to electromagnetic field (Holy Spirit) which is all life on this planet.

If you cant think hyperdimensionally (at least 8D I believe) then youre communicated to, not communicating.

>>15206229
Lmao ok

>>15206287
Ha, rekt. Check you work before posting, experts lurk everywhere...

Genesis 6:4
>The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward...

>>15206334
Lol keep posting. I have to go to bed soon but I'll check it later. I hope to see more good stuff from you

>>15206395
Your fake words of how you feel betrays you. Youre beat on every level of science in a science board, of course you'll just deflect. Just act amused and talk only about *me*...no science.

BECAUSE YOU WILL FAIL MY TESTS.

>>15206405
Deflect what?
You're trying to talk to me as though we're on the same level, and as though you're not a delusional schizo. Okay, then present your position/argument to me and maybe I'll have a look at it.

>>15206107
>>15206161
I was making a post explaining it, but in the end I found out that I was still missing a little piece of knowledge, so I did a google search and found this fairly elementary treatment: https://web.stanford.edu/~lindrew/18.784p.pdf (I basically knew theorem 22 in a slightly different form that didn't allow me to conclude)

The gist of it is that you write the j-invariant in two different ways, one coming from analysis (q-expansion=Fourier series) and one coming from geometry (something related to plane cubics). When you pick a very special number (coming from number theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_number_problem)), the computation from geometry gives you an integer (surely an algebraic number, from the theory of CM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_multiplication, but also an integer in this very special case).
It's a three-way crossroad between elliptic curves (geometry), class field theory (number theory) and automorphic forms (analysis)

>>15206064
Liquid carbon is a thing under the right conditions. Idk why people try to magnify such a small thing with words like diamond. I can say liquid graphene, or graphite, means the same damn thing.

>>15206098
The internet has changed the human experience so much. Kids on 4chan get to talk about advanced science without knowing anything except keywords. When i was a kid i was tinkering with dc motors and chemistry kits but here we have kids that dont know logarithms giving you their take on black holes

>>15206100
>>15206103
>>15206139
>>15206187
Vitalism was just the idea that only living creatures could make certain chemicals. It was disproven with the synthesis of urea. It has nothing to do with schizo spirits.

>>15206100
>Vitalism (the idea that there is a soul) was once popular but the advancements in 19th and 20th century science disproved it conclusively
This is what the dronism mental illness looks like.

>>15206475
Is that a bad thing? I think playing with your science fair toys would be boring and inefficient. By 18, you didn’t get a fraction of the information us zoomers got by age 12 due to the internet.

Seeing boomers seethe indirectly about becoming obsolete is probably one of my favorite pastimes, thank you for this. (PS. Natural Log has not real world utility, only boomers is it to condense things too big for their pea brain to consume)

>>15206466
I don't know why people lend credence to nondisprovable conjectures from astronomers, they're always making up tall tales of superior knowledge which they know can't be disproved.
>500 miles below the surface of mars is a layer of ham & swiss which extends nearly to the planet's pure mustard core

>>15206489
>Is that a bad thing?
Normies with delusions of intellectualism are the worst kind of people and their condition is terminal. They'll need to be physically removed from society at some point. Intellectualism should be strongly frowned upon in sub-135-IQ circles.

>>15206506
>I don’t like when other people feel smart so I will gate keep intelligence because I am easily intellectually intimidated

You might want to consider killing yourself soon

>>15206510
You might need to be physically removed from society, and possibly tortured first to make an example out of you. Midwit intellectualism is a severe mental disease and a trojan horse of sorts for the spread of most degenerate ideas ever conceived.

>>15206409
>Deflect what?
Clever...but youre an idiot, get a fucking job

Pay me $100,000 and I'll educate from the ground up. No pay, no say.

No free lunch for a jackass' that wants to be treated smart while not being smart.

>>15206513
You are angry about something you read on the internet. That tells me that you will never be in a position of leadership and have the emotional IQ of a monkey. Why would anyone ever listen to an angry incel?

>>15206518
>You are angry
Not at all. I'm thinking pragmatically. Midwit "intellectualism" is a civilization-ending disease that needs to be actively fought.

>>15206518
>You are angry about something you read on the internet.

You would only say this if you believe everyone on the internet is in no position of leadership already, which is retarded and show youre not very used to conversing with intelligent AND successful people.

You should hang out in higher places...it will make you stop viewing society as a superior entity.

>>15206522
You are angery and quickly devolve to ad hominem attacks because you lack the ability to articulate your point.

In my experience, the word “midwit” or “halfwit” is the pseudo-intellectual’s go to when he feels threatened online. You never come up with a solution to problems, instead, you hurl your pea brain insults at people attempting to learn more. Gatekeepers of anything, like yourself, have 0 benefit to mankind.

You will put on a train, removed from society and quickly forgotten on the day of the rope. No torture, not 3pic death. Just removed. You aren’t important to anyone and need to be reminded of that.

>>15206533
>You are angery and quickly devolve to ad hominem attacks

>>15206510
>You might want to consider killing yourself soon

>>15206067
>>15206071
Pathetic. Roundabout 20. Amaze me by using this sign along with irrational or transcedental numbers: ' = '

>>15206533
checked. anon is 100% an angry pseud.

>>15206546
>updooting your own post

>>15206540
>midwit reply coupled with inability to articulate self

Pottery

>>15206551
>subhuman element devoid of metacognition accuses others of "quickly devolving into ad hominems" despite every single one of its replies being an ad hominem from the start

>>15206550
That wasn’t me although I do updoot myself from time to time, kind stranger

>>15206555
>anonymous virgin breaks out the thesaurus to do mental gymnastics with words he learned about 20 years ago in middle school
>more seething at 11

>>15206564
You've been losing your mind with rage ever since I posted >>15206506 but my point still stands completely unchallenged.

>>15206565
I’m sorry, none of it meant anything. I’m actually if laughing in my bed at 4am dunking on you. Wasn’t this fun?

>>15206566
Wipe the foam off the corners of your mouth, animal. Auto-hiding all further posts from you. Note how your animalistic rage forces you to write another reply that no one is going to read. Feel free to updoot your own post again to "prove me wrong". :^)

>>15206568
Hahahahahahahahahaha so mad this is great

>>15206564
>anonymous virgin breaks out the thesaurus
Because Chads keep one on their person at all times.

Oh, and I found Kant to be a bit shallow and predictable, like I theorized it as a child and simply forgot about it as I moved on to other fields.

>>15206581
This nigga got a kindle and protractor on deck. LMFAO

>>15206489
Im 40, im not a boomer. And how could people dying of old age (boomers) become obsolete? That doesnt mean anything.
Is Isaac Newton "obsolete" too? You know hes dead right?

>>15206593
Isaac Newton got 0 pussy and had his pockets ran by chads daily. How much more obsolete can you get, boomer? (40 is old as FUCK)

>>15206599
How can a dead person be obsolete?

>>15206588
Sketches of hyperbolic & hyperdimensional geometry, projected 2D.

edit: Cant find the pic, Im traveling and dont have my book. Here is a Geometric Problem instead:

What is the ratio of DEF to ABC lengths?

>>15206618
I do not care please shut up

>>15206614
You can also shut up, NERD.

>>15206614
Glanned obsolescence in built into genetic code as infentional design to facilitate more rapid evolution.

>>15206621

Ignorance+Pride=Permanent Suffering

>>15206627
I already know too much, anon. I do not need more useless factoids packed into my head.

As a matter of fact, my life is falling apart because of self hatred and my inability to forgive myself and those close to me who have hurt me in my life. I had a great business helping seniors fix their computers. Now I have to drink 30+ beers a day in fear I will take my life if I let myself feel life again.

I’m glad you took notice to my suffering. You’re a decent guy.

>>15206517
Lol did you give up trying to sound smart?

>>15206071
That is probably just a numerical coincidence, whereas >>15206067
has a deep explanation.

>>15206489
>By 18, you didn’t get a fraction of the information us zoomers got by age 12 due to the internet.
But you don't actually understand anything, you just know talking points.
>PS. Natural Log has not real world utility, only boomers is it to condense things too big for their pea brain to consume
Case in point.

>>15206573
Your the one whose mad

>>15206489
>PS. Natural Log has not real world utility
Lol you must be a soft sciences major

>>15206437
>elliptic curves (geometry)
That's a bit harsh in elliptic curves. They are used in algebraic geometry, complex geometry, algebraic number theory, analytic number theory, analysis, computer science, and theoretical physics (elliptic curve cryptography and F-theory for example of the last two), and probably more.

>>15206568
Hey you’re the auto hiding posts guy again lmao I’m not the person you’re replying to but you’ve said that to me too before.
Why pretend the site has a functionality it doesn’t have? Having this much of an autistic meltdown doesn’t really make it seem like you’re confident in your ideas

>>15206107
Any time you see 163 or 744 you know something weird is going on.

>>15206484
If you want to post your photos, go to >>>/soc/

>>15206064
I mean, in their defense it could be liquid carbon right on the brink of precipitating out little diamond crystals, like how clouds are made of ice

>anyone on /sci/ is a sentient being

>>15206642

>>15208105
I love you. Thank you for being there for me.

>>15206064
>science & math facts
>Astronomers think

>>15207084
I mean they're used everywhere, but they are a fundamentally geometric object, do you not think so?

>>15206076

it means not equal to

>>15208609
spectroscopy

>>15210345
wats dat?

>>15206086
not >>15206081 but
[math]\frac{1}{9}=0.\bar{1}[/math]
[math]\frac{2}{9}=0.\bar{2}[/math]
[math]\frac{3}{9}=0.\bar{3}[/math]
[math]\frac{4}{9}=0.\bar{4}[/math]
[math]\frac{5}{9}=0.\bar{5}[/math]
[math]\frac{6}{9}=0.\bar{6}[/math]
[math]\frac{7}{9}=0.\bar{7}[/math]
[math]\frac{8}{9}=0.\bar{8}[/math]
[math]\frac{9}{9}=0.\bar{9}[/math]
[math]\frac{9}{9}=1[/math]
[math]0.\bar{9}=1[/math]
(nobody ever taught me this in school, but my dad showed me when i was 8)

>>15210383
that’s very nice that your dad showed you that when you were young, but technically its not a legitimate proof.

>>15210446
It is though. It's even the one with the fewest assumptions.

>>15210467
if i don’t buy that 0.999… = 1, then im probably not going to buy that 0.111… = 1/9. additionally, you have to show that each of those statements implies the next one (e.g., show that 0.111… = 1/9 implies that 0.222… = 2/9).

>>15210478
so you would expect me to write out "Because [math]\frac{1}{9}=0.\bar{1}[/math], [math]\frac{1}{9}+\frac{1}{9}=\frac{2}{9}[/math], and [math]0.\bar{1}+0.\bar{1}=0.\bar{2}[/math] are true, [math]\frac{2}{9}=0.\bar{2}[/math] must also be true due to the transitive property of addition." or something similar? and then repeat that for each step? seems unnecessary. also, how would one prove that [math]\frac{1}{9}=0.\bar{1}[/math]? long division? and if so, couldn't you just use long division to figure them all out individually?

>>15210383
none of those are true. none of those fractions can be written in the decimal system.

>>15206581
Imagine being over the age of 13 and STILL being stuck learning basic-ass kiddy-level geometry, logic, and grammar. lmao.

>>15207083
He sounds like one of those guys who wouldn't even pass Humanities classes because he wouldn't accept criticism on his essays from people below him in terms of "intellect" (meaning ability to quote fun facts from the Wikipedia article of the day).

>>15211027
>imagine calling yourself a Mathematician and never understanding basic geometry

You will never be a Mathematician...youre a student/certified laborer. Go back to work.