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How bad is the South Carolina train derailment, chemically speaking?

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>[conference speaker] made no mention of [topic x] while speaking at a conference on [topic y]

>> No.15200869

>>15200861
Thought that was mr Bean when I clicked the thread
I have been dissappointed.

>> No.15200885

>>15200861
It's the American Chernobyl.

>> No.15201001

>>15200861
ok so we can talk about too much jews in money fields

>> No.15201009

>>15200869
>Thought that was mr Bean when I clicked the thread
kek
same.
Mr. Bean would be great for the current admiinstration. Might improve it.

>> No.15201037

>>15200861
I have no idea how bad vinyl chloride is, but organic chlorides are usually persistent soil and water contaminants and will definitely reuire some sort of cleanup.
HCl will probably kill some trees and fish or something but that's it
Phosgene is very nasty to breathe, but thankfully gets neutralized by water almost instantly so no chance of it persisting

I think dioxin formation would be the biggest concern, i.e. agent orange-ing ourselves. As I recall, those form under low-oxygen conditions, so letting the stuff just spill out, cool down and/or turn into short-lived shit is probably the better choice.
Either way, there's gonna need to be some heavy environmental testing before anyone even considers moving back.

>> No.15201041

>>15201037
>Either way, there's gonna need to be some heavy environmental testing before anyone even considers moving back.
The government told everyone to move back and each of them gets a whopping $500 for being permanently poisoned.

>> No.15201064

>>15200861
I would estimate that it is about 2.7mol of bad

>> No.15201068

>>15200861
I am #ProlapsedForPete

>> No.15201071

>>15201041
>$500
That's a pretty good deal desu

>> No.15201130

>>15200861
It is safe for the residents to move back and breathe that air. All people in the Ohio Valley Basin however will still need to get the vinyl chloride vaccine. This vaccine has been proven to be safe and effective. Additional booster shots may be needed. The science is settled. Trust the science.

>> No.15201268

>>15201130
absurdly good post

>> No.15201428

>>15201130
inject polyvinyl chloride to train your body to defeat vinyl chloride

>> No.15201431

>>15201428
kek, that's basically what "vaccines" are. Inject poison to build up a tolerance.

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well they couldn't get whites to self-suicide enough with clotshots so they gotta make up the difference somehow

>> No.15201607

>>15201586
Little here, little there. Blame it all on ultra right wing socialist nazi supremascist homophobic transphobic misogynistic extremists.

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>>15201586
What a retarded take, typical of conservatives.
It was their party that dismantled safety regulations proposed in the previous admin that directly caused this accident: Hazardous chemical transport regulation, brake equipment upgrades for transport of said chemicals and bad conditions for the train workers.
Of course this neoliberal admin has also bent over for corporate interests in not instituting the regulations and busting the recent rail worker strike.

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>> No.15201644

>>15201631
That is a talented satirist and cartoonist.

>> No.15201664

>>15201586
Ahahaha here we go. Their expectations of the experts is coming full circle lol logic will prevail bros, logic will prevail.

>> No.15202131

>>15201625
Conservatives don't have a party in the U.S.

>> No.15202231

>>15201625
>orange man's fault!
the representative from mbna has had over two years to turn shit around

>> No.15202245

>>15201631
i'm a libertarian communist and Ben Garrison is correct here

>> No.15202247

>>15200861
>South Carolina train derailment
horrific, considering it ended up in Ohio

>> No.15202335

>>15201631
Post original

>> No.15202354

>>15201009
Rowan Atkinson studied electrical enginering. at I think cambridge.

>> No.15202883

>>15200861
0 deaths
you do the math

>> No.15203015

Expect Russian bots to make a big deal about this as they continue to be made into fertilizer from American weapons

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>> No.15203109

>>15200861
Check it out for yourself.
https://epa.ohio.gov/static/Portals/47/citizen/response/East-Palestine-Lab-Data-021023.pdf
It seems there's some concerning levels in there, and there are firefighting chemicals visible in the river downstream as well as people able to still 'smell' VOCs.
It's concerning, but some people are also exploiting this for political purposes. Hopefully this bankrupts the railroad which will make others think twice about having lax safety.

>> No.15203123

>>15203109
>It's concerning, but some people are also exploiting this for political purposes.
lol

>> No.15203128

>>15203123
What's funny about that? It's the truth.

>> No.15203131

>>15203128
What political purposes? Shaming the absolute cowards responsible for making this decision?

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>> No.15203140

>>15203131
It happens with a lot of events. People such as politicians, media, or other interest groups use events to influence the way people think about certain topics. If you don't think this is true, then I'm not sure what to say.

>> No.15203149 [DELETED] 

>>15203133
They deserve to have this albatross hanging around their neck. Poisoning half the people in the country because they hate blue collar workers...