/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15195785
kerodon.net

>>15195785
>learn math
You learn math by doing problems. Not browsing a random wiki.

>>15195785
check out >>>/sci/sqt
There are some resources, like the wiki in the OP, that can help

>>15195785
One time I found a pretty useful resource. I think my professor called it "the book"?
It works kind of like a wiki. You have pages which you can return to and cross reference different ideas. Those weird paper pages they have are even numbered for convenience. Needless to say I was blown away by these crazy things! Still trying to figure out where to get them though, can't help ya, sorry.

https://openstax.org

free math books

>>15195785
book

>>15195785
Browsing wiki helps.
The biggest problem I have is trying to understand the motivation behind the various machinery/constructions.
Like just give me a prototypical example (that isn't just some contrived nonsense) that illustrates the utility/necessity of the machinery/construction.
Abstract algebra tends to be the worst (I think those types of people tend to get off on framing everything in the most abstract or general way).

Usually I try to look at the history/background of the concept and who the people were and what specific thing they were trying to solve in order to get a concrete example and motivation.
I'd say stay away from category theory until you are graduate level and have a solid foundation in the basics of abstract algebra (group theory, ring theory, field theory, vector spaces, modules, algebras) and topology.

>>15195785
Don't go that "just winging it" path, anon -- or videos or Khan or muh MOOCs, for that matter. Slogging through well-written books while paying attention to wording detail (to catch conditions, corner/edge cases, etc.) and working problems is still the way to go for full understanding.

Damn, why is it that something like 10% of zoomers seem to have taken full advantage of the internet and turned into absolute beasts in their chosen field, and the other 90% are like OP?

>>15195812
alright, now that we got the 4th grader perspective out of the way let's discuss this as adults

>>15195785
nlab

>>15196409
This lmao and Stacks project

>>15196406
lol, this is why you'll never learn maths

>>15196333
How do I take full advantage of the internet?

>>15195785

http://hbpms.blogspot.com/?m=1

Is the "Wikipedia is too technical/formal" something only people not in uni perceive?
I don't remember to ever having had this impression of Wikipedia.

>>15196422
Not that anon, but imo you learn math through a mix of doing problems and attaining knowledge. One develops your "skill" of doing math, the other your knowledge of math.

>>15196456
If you know the topic everything flows logically, if you don't tho it is very hard to grasp as wikipedia does not explain anything in most cases and merely aggregates technical writings and formulas with no introduction.
Try reading an article on something complex you're not well versed in that isn't brainlet tier, you'll leave with a very superficial understanding if that.

>>15195971
globohomo

>>15197441
agda is for fags, dedukti is where it's at

>>15197436
Are you retarded? It's very weird to blame wikipedia becaause of your own shortcomings. Delusional honestly. You're not smart enough, there is no shame admitting that. Most people aren't smart enough.

>>15195785
If you’re serious about learning math, just use textbooks

>>15197574
kek no need to get all defensive you are very smurt, settle down

>>15197652
stfu chanfag

>>15197652
Retard.

>>15195785
You need to establish a hirearchy of concepts you want to learn:
I.e. basic algebra, basic group theory, beginner abstract algebra...
Or a similar path into topology or whatever, idk
My point is, if you were learning something else like a sport or a language it would be very obvious you must start small and build.
So your pic rel. is out of the question.
You can't expect to start "learning math" by studying cohomilologloy kikeology hyperabstract grothendickean bullshittheory, you start with less insane shit and then you get there eventually.
Just like you can't expect a beginner in the language to write a philosophical essay in japanese.
Sounds good?
Start with v. arnolds books and similar if you don't like bourbakian cancer.
Best of luck.

>>15196456
Wikipedia's problem isn't being too technical imo, it's straight up being not technical enough and incomplete.

>>15197574
good bait

>>15197436
>>15197574
exactly!
wikipedia is one of the best resources out there
i can't count the number of times i've gone to wikipedia to find a proof or learn a concept

people who think wikipedia is too technical must be retards

Still Wikipedia: if you know the order in which to read the articles it's not confusing at all, your problem is only that wikipedia implicitly presupposes a certain amount of technical background for the majority of math topics.

>>15195785
>without being really fucking technical
Why is it that people who want to "learn" math don't actually want to learn math?

>>15199052
because they're retarded

>>15199024
>wikipedia implicitly presupposes a certain amount of technical background for the majority of math topics.
exactly, it's not a textbook that hold your hand through the topic