/sci/ - Science & Math

birb genocide edition btw

>>15191720
why the fuck did you choose the over saturated crap?

meanwhile on the css
>experiments being transferred to the outside of CSS via Mengtian module’s experiment airlock

>>15191731
it was the first decent pic i took from the other thread

>>15191720
>previous >>15186533
thats the current thread, a legendary titan, the largest /sfg/ in recent memory. attempting to usurp it's legacy while its still living is fake and gay. please delete this counterfeit /sfg/, we will never accept it as the real thing

>>15191736
there was this one too
but >>15191739 is right

>>15191720
Literally too early, you’re going to break the treaty. We aren’t allowed to make threads before page 10

>>15191760
image limit was reached so it's ok

>>15191736
>ass ninny
>decent

>>15191760
jannies broke the NAP when they purged a bunch of threads

>>15191720
no edition edition

Falcon 9/Heavy does just fine with large sections of ascent unable to handle engine-out events (first few seconds after liftoff and the entire second stage of flight). This is because Merlin 1D very, very rarely, fails. SpaceX seems to be accepting that Raptor is not as good. But if your engines are failing even before liftoff, and also right at ignition, then it seems to me you've got a substantial problem. tldr it's gonna take some two more months

Space colonization will just spread suffering to other planets

https://youtube.com/watch?v=w7nsv4n_Bgk

15th for Thor

We are close bros...

>>15191942

>>15191942
>static fire a complete success
>only 15 posts
/sfg/ is dead

>>15191727
Why is the tank farm so close, it freaks me out

>>15191869
>woodward effect - discredited
>em drive - discredited
>not a single mention of the Flyby Anomaly, an actual enigma with potential gravity control ramifications
Some pretty plebeian depths there

>>15191727
I don't think static fires are very good for the rocket.

>>15191949
>31/33 engines is a "complete success"

Sorry chuds but the faa is going to need to do a failure analysis to.determine the root cause of what went wrong in this test before they even think of issuing a launch license. Having anything fail to work is unacceptable.

>>15191942
>Full 33-engine static fire test of booster 7
>33-engine
who's gonna tell him?

>massive cold front rolled through
expect things to slow down in boca chica for awhile

india is back, baby

>>15191949
You are a day late chud 1000+ post already happened during the event.


>>15191974
>>15191972
Just for reference. 33 Engine has ~ 1.5 T/W ratio. 31 engines have 1.4 T/W. Even 29 engine has 1.32 T/W ratio.

So it will be more than fine. Engine out capabilities of Superheavy is well known.

>>15191720
chicken wing edition

>>15191931
Leave NSFer

>>15191983
>1.5 TWR ≈ 1200 m/s gravity losses
<1.2 TWR ≈ 1500 m/s gravity losses

So 1.4 would be maybe 100-200 m/s loss, this doesn’t affect starship’s launch or even reuse without payload, but it would reduce its Payload to orbit in reusable mode by 10-20 tons

Oh your raptors failed when you were trying to propulsively land on a complicated tower with chopstick arms? That’s cute hahahahah good luck with that

>>15192007
>let me in
>I'm your dead husband
>I came back haha

>people still think 2030 is too early for people to go to mars
i know seven years isn't a long time, but it's not a short time either. i think people are too stuck on the idea that starship hls will dictate the momentum going forward. just because artemis 3 wont get to the moon until 2028 doesn't mean that spacex's mars program has to wait too.

>>15192004
Starship is empty for the first few case anyway. So from 150 ton to 130 ton, its no big deal. Even 100 to 80 ton is nothing due to empty shell.

>>15192007
>piece of foam hits your shitty space plane

>>15192018
Depends on how many times they land on Mars before that. The landing sequence looks super sketchy the way it pivots around. I wouldn't want to be on board that thing before they've landed there at least dozens of times with no issues

https://youtu.be/_I_IfFvGy9A?t=553

>>15191966
tell that to N1

>>15192018
come with us you Musk 1 fruitcake

>>15192041
Starship will fly 100 times before humans ever get on board. It will happen within 2-3 years from now. Mars will have atleast half a dozen landings before humans because cargo missions will take before humans anyway.

>>15192041
yeah spacex will definitely need a rigorous program leading up to the first manned landing

>>15192018
This is just a gut feeling but I’ll express my own thoughts on the matter:
• [part] of why SS is moving slower now is because it’s part of the artemis program and NASA / SX are being cautious
• once SS starts flying starlinks it will be a separate sort of “fly often, break often, learn from this” mentality
• SX will be going to Mars with NASA. I’m very confident on this. Musk will be able to do it alone quicker, but I’m willing to bet SX and NASA are already doing off-the-record talks about a strategy to some degree. NASA is getting a TON of experience right now with starship. And their ultimate goal is Mars, even if it’s not a top priority. Musk/SX will want to leverage all the contracts and perks of doing it with NASA so it will probably be way slower than 2030s but way faster than 2060s+ if NASA did it with SLS alone

>>>15191720 (OP)
>>15191984
Yeah those look like some spicy buffalo wings.

>>15192041
How much delta-v could a tether station remove? Might be worth setting up in Mars orbit if you're actually going there in serious numbers.

ANOTHA’ ONE
https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1623960535845724161

>>15192066
>begin to study SSTO later this year
*yawn*

>>15192066
hmmm looks familiar

Last thread has 1400 replies and hit image limit

This board is going to go balls to the walls when the orbital flight test happens

>>15192066
>begin research
They are installing powerpoint 2021.

>>15191931
>SpaceX seems to be accepting that Raptor is not as good
Kek. You're such a retard

>>15192066
>SSTO
retard bait

>>15192066
I love Russhit vaporware

found this the other day

https://twitter.com/roscosmos/status/1474417900324892678?s=20&t=wLkzA9UIad3zmiK4eqE9yQ

>>15192074
>They are installing powerpoint 2021
Haha, I'm sure they're much further ahead than that

On an unrelated note does anyone have a product key for Windows 10 that they'd be willing to share for a brief period of time? Please send to MakeyevRDB2510@yandex.com

New Starship payload bay mechanism spotted

>>15192066

>>15192080
lol

>>15192080
>they fell for the hypersonic shape meme
kek

>>15192074
>>15192083
kek

>>15192085
>new

>>15192085
>New flight-of-fancy fan render spotted
no

>>15191933
yes, and?

raptor will be iterated until it's MORE reliable than merlin.

>>15192066
>>15192080
Holy shit, and normies complain about Musk being the hype man.

>>15191933
Good, misery loves company.

>>15192066
At least it doesn’t look like they’re planning on spending several billion rubles and over a decade of work to build a launch complex for this.

>>15192109
Development for this supposedly began in 1992, i’m sure there has been plenty of corruption involved over the decades

>>15192115
>development began in 1992
>absolutely nothing to show to this day
lmao

>>15192122
Coincidentally, Angara also vegan development around 1992. It’s still in the testing phase lmao

>>15192086
stokebros, we got too cocky
where does the payload go?

>>15192140
payloads are stored between the balls
(russia is incapable of making non-spherical fuel tanks let’s be honest)

What happened to Skylon?

>>15192174
They had problems with the Office key, 10 more years.

>>15191720
>Starship switched to hypergolics
Umm, based???

>>15191869
Lol project rho really does like it's furry webcomics

>>15191869
CKAN is unironically too complicated, KSP has probably THE easiest mod instal system I've ever seen, adding another software on top of it is useless

>>15192085
how will they direct the payload out that door. This thing is becoming more like the shuttle by the day

>>15192103
Raptor should've literally like a Merlin but methane fueled. Imagine the reliability, reusability and cost

Is it just me or is Raptor 2 way more reliable?

>>15192195
>release the payload from the adapter
>slowly back off

>>15192197
No

>>15192198
Not being sarcastic either btw; they’ve barely done any Raptor swaps. Raptor 1 did that all the time

>>15192197
Absolute fucking retard lmao. There's a reason Raptor is not some dinky gg engine.

>>15192201
fuck the performance, reliability is more important

>The Space Force is meeting on Friday with industry, to discuss how the Defense Department might build a Commercial Augmentation Space Reserve — a space parallel to the existing air and maritime civil reserve fleets that can be called up by the government in times of crisis or conflict to support military missions.
>Those fleets work essentially by the US government giving participating firms preferential treatment in exchange for them keeping some of their airplanes and ships at the ready to be rapidly called into action. Further, the US government guarantees participants some level of compensation should they be attacked.
>one of the key issues facing government and industry as commercial space companies increasingly are providing national security services is how to ensure that those firms are able “to operate in crisis and conflict.”
>“Just as we saw the value of commercial space systems in the Ukraine crisis, we’ve also seen the potential vulnerability and [the possibility for] commercial capabilities to be attacked as well. And so we’ve got to consider commercial capabilities and how they operate not just now, but also in the time of crisis. And certainly, we must consider how they must operate in a time of conflict as well,”
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/02/space-force-seeks-ideas-for-potential-commercial-space-reserve-fleet/

>>15192208
You're barely getting to 350 isp with a gas generator Methalox engine (see Arianegroup's PROMETHEUS), it's probably good enough for a F9 to FH sized vehicle, not for a super heavy launcher

>>15192213
Remember the F-1's sl isp was 263

Türkiye

We're looking good bros, star colonies will be en route within the century

>>15192219
Now imagine what a good orbital bombardment would look like.

>>15192213
there's area for more engines under the booster, especially if you make them smaller
>>15192202

>>15192219
imagine the property disputes

>>15192219
One weird trick to avoid bunker busting precision munitions. Targeting planners hate it!

>>15192052
You think theyll be able to get humans on starship before artemis III?

>>15192122
Anon russia was ruled by literal bandits for the entire 90s

>>15192211
Russia’s actually done something like this since the Soviet days. Zenit spysats were very short duration craft, and Moscow had no idea when the filthy capitalists would get up to something that would need a lot of spying done in a hurry, so they’d have a stockpile of R7s that they could rush out to the pad if there was ever a need. This might lead to something like the USSF buying a dedicated booster and a set of upper stages to stockpile out at Vandenberg.

>>15192236
do you think Putin's a bandit?

>>15192235
No. But Artemis is also not meant by Gwynne when she says hundreds of launches. That refers to launching people and landing them in an atmosphere.
There will not be hundreds of flights before Artemis III

Would it be more efficient to launch rockets form a higher altitude? Like let’s say you found a flat plane in the Rocky Mountains that you could set up a launch pad (let’s ignore the logistics of setting this up) would there be any meaningful performance difference to want to do it this way?

>>15192242
Somewhat, but he did cull the oligarchs and poverty when he got into office

>>15192213
you can simply flare out the bottom like N-1 if the engines have not enough thrust

>>15192249
>would there be any meaningful performance difference
Yes
>to want to do it this way
No because >let’s ignore the logistics of setting this up

>>15192235
Probably. it could happen a day before, a week before a month before, whats the different?

Clear chads.... she made it

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>>15192252
Yeah I thought about that but there are benefits to having the whole rocket be the same diameter

>>15192223
lol

>>15192256
Im so happy for my wife

>>15192249
Yes, less time spent in the atmosphere and you would achieve greater thrust and efficiency at liftoff because of the lower air pressure at high altitudes.

>>15192259
JAXA noticed her!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peXhBc71kX0

>>15192259
I'm her boyfriend, indeed it's so nice to hear bro.

>>15191933
Okay. Nothing wrong with some suffering,

>>15192264
Anon AI chatbots dont have emotions for you

>>15192268
She's real though.

>>15192263
It’s the spiritual successor to the space shuttle, yeah. A private space plane with better ability

>>15192271
yes, she is my real wife

>>15192256
Japan is fucking weird. The government produced some Isekai anime about the occupation of Kuril islands by Soviets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJdjY_Vsk0I

>>15192277
yeah in america they wouldve made a marvel movie with an obese gay black female lead about the bombing of pearl harbor. faggot. japan is better than america in almost every way imaginable

>>15191962
>not a single mention of the Flyby Anomaly, an actual enigma with potential gravity control ramifications
That's completely baseless. Literally the only person claiming this is McCullough, and if EMdrive doesn't work then neither do his strange ideas.

>>15192276
Is there some r34 of her already?

>>15192281
no, she is pure and innocent

>>15192278
How many people has your country put on the moon?

>>15192283
24

>>15192256
lol
That list of the companies and then there's Clear
https://www.rocket.jaxa.jp/rocket/h3/supporter/

>>15192283
Around a couple hundred. Yours?

>>15192263

>>15192289
if the first starship is named after star trek im bombing boca chica in minecraft

>>15192286
She gives very clear moral support

>>15192286
Japanese companies really like blue text on white background

>>15192278
No. They do various stunts and flyovers at sports events. Maybe in Japan making some anime shows is a more efficient vector, which is weird to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgLmMuQ2V4U

>>15192278
>japan is better than america in almost every way imaginable
I'd avoid both

>>15192296
orbital flyovers when?

>>15192278
>japan is better than america in almost every way imaginable
いえ、違うだよ。バカじゃないの? 笑

>>15192291
Space Shuttle Constitution was renamed Space Shuttle Enterprise after fans of Star Trek implored NASA to name it as such after a specific craft from the show.

>no von Braun Mars flotilla
Why live

>>15192306
>how your town can avoid a recession
Send men to go strip mine mars! Sponsor a space ship and get naming rights!

>>15192278
thanks for putting things into perspective. The other anon almost convinced me government anime is weird

>>15192282
I hear she likes to get a little naughty sometimes :)

is it possible to construct a 3d body such that the solar pressure acting on it will always produce a net moment in the same direction. In other words if such a body was launched it would start spinning faster and faster from the solar pressure?

>>15192312
She likes big boosters.

>>15192279
They also forgot to mention Plasma Magnet, the schizo idee fixe du jour

>>15192279
Flyby anomaly and the Podkletnov effect are the same thing. Because the earth isn't superconducting nor pumped by microwaves its rotation produces orders of magnitude less axial push. Jupiter is much bigger so produces a larger effect but still tiny.

https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/status/1623747541006163971
>Canadian astronaut and former Commander of the International Space Station, Chris Hadfield, today met The King at Buckingham Palace to discuss efforts to encourage sustainability in space.
Is this about debris management techniques or useless regulations to stifle space growth? Don't know where Charles stands on space, but isn't he supposed to be a treehugger or something?

>>15192306
It’s in Spanish but Jesus Christ the ferry rocket was something else
>6,300 tons at liftoff
>Three stages of hypergolic propellant
>Fully reusable
>Can put 25 tons into LEO

>>15192324
Chris Hadfield is pretty pro-SpaceX and said Inspiration4 should “teach and inspire” so it’s probably just about debris and shit

NASA’s WB-57 plane has a placeholder for March 11 to watch the Starship launch

>>15192329
Yeah it was on call during the hop campaign

>>15192324
The fuck can the UK do about anything regarding space, they are even worse than EU and Russia when it comes to space power and capability lmfao

>>15192236
>>15192242
So nothing has changed

>>15192333
How does the head of Roscosmos end up on the frontline of a war in less than a year

>>15192334
Unironically, because he got too cocky
There’s a fine line between putting russia first and trying to appease those above you, and completely deteriorating relations with America and pissing NASA off. Putin & Co probably accepted things like losing OneWeb on Soyuz as a possibility but i’m willing to bet NASA told them to shape up with ISS relations or face consequences

>>15192332
>The fuck can the UK do about anything regarding space
They can come up with even new regulations!

>>15192336
It’s funny because Rogozin caused trouble before this too. Trampolines and whatnot

Should Martin marietta have won the Apollo CSM competition? Was their design better?

>>15192339

>>15192334
He was an unironic nazi before he became head of RosCosmos. Aged cooled him down a bit, but not completely

Orbex is planning its maidan launch of its Prime rocket from Bongland this year.

Which makes me wonder, how come the British have never been major spaceflight players?

>>15192339
>>15192341
looks worse

>>15192334
Wasn't it supposed to be a "promotion"?

>>15192356
The CEO of Wagner group got mad at Rogozin for wearing a bunch of American gear and threatened to order his men to kill Rogozin on sight lol

>>15192318
You don't need to do anything special
t, yorp effect

>>15192370
yeah but Asteroid won't just keep picking up speed

Angry Astronaut thinks the engines were throttled all the way down during the static

>>15192376
You literally can’t do that lol

The /k/ and /sfg/ overlap is neat

>>15192376
Wouldn't that make them be 'not on'?

>>15192256
The power of rocket autism!
This makes unreasonably happy

>>15192291
Why? Old Star Trek is cool

>>15192377
>>15192380
all the way down as in lowest power setting. I think it's around 40% for Raptor

>>15192384
Oh okay that makes more sense I suppose.

>>15192376
wouldn't that make it more difficult? the way I understand it there's way more problems with instability when trying to throttle engines

>>15192321
> Plasma magnet requires new physics
you are the schizo anon

>>15192385
>>15192384
They didn’t. You can’t throttle down during ignition

>>15192291
The first? Nah. The first one that goes to Mars with people? Yeah. It's gonna be named Enterprise.

>>15192396
so Raptors have to ignite to 100% and then throttle down? Source?

>>15192398
Heart of Gold is the first one with people, or atleast the one with Elon on it lmao.

Enterprise maybe for first cargo run to Mars.

>>15192396
Take your meds

Jesus fuck the static fire was bright

>>15192400
>Enterprise maybe for first cargo run to Mars.
Better than "Ares" at least.

>>15192402
I wonder where all the dust is coming from?

>>15192403
Ares could be Mar's first defensive fleet of Starship

>>15192405
Texas is comprised almost entirely of compacted dust.
>>15192406
First Ares Fleet, Defenders of Mars.
Second Ares Fleet, Invaders of Earth
Third Ares Fleet, Vanguard to Venus
Fourth Ares Fleet, Sojourn to Saturn

Bros, what would a realistic design for a pure interplanetary spceship look like? VASMIR May be a meme but nuclear/electric seems like a good idea.

As long as they don't name them like NASA does I'm good. the crew dragon names were so forgettable It's unbelievable.
that also puts 'enterprise' out of the running.

>>15192412
QI thrusters powered by a local-overunity QI turbine.

>>15192415
Endeavour is a cool name

>>15192415
Watch next Crew Dragon be named Atlantis

>>15192348
They had some contributions during the Europa project days, but that didn't last. There was a general unwillingness to give ballistic missile or space launch programs the amount of funding they needed during the 60s and 70s. Later governments didn't feel any need to change that policy and focused the limited budget they would allow on smaller scientific payloads.

they should name a starship Titanic

>>15192412
https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2016/06/28/spacecoach-toward-a-deep-space-infrastructure/

>>15192415
There is always an Enterprise, dingus.

>>15192415
Enterprise would be based for a NASA owned specialty Starship vehicle

>>15192418
>>15192427
>>15192430
>Endeavour
>Resilience
>Endurance
>Freedom
>Curiosity
>Enterprise
>Perseverance
>Opportunity
NONE OF THESE HAVE ANY SOVL

>>15192424
The 18m one should be called Olympic.

>>15192174
Development hell

The engines are basically ready but it will take another 15 years to even build the first prototype lmfao. Which will crash and end the whole program

>>15192431
But muh gravitas

>nooo you can't name a crew capsule Snoopy or Gumdrop or Spider we're supposed to be professional!!1

>>15192423
>>15192348
Shame, would've been cool to see stuff like
>Royal Space Marines
>Royal Space Force
>King's Space Guard
and Brits naming their spaceships cool shit like they do their ships

Imagine friendly space competitions and races between NASA and UK space agency, first man to Mars, etc

>>15192435
Tranquility or Shackleton would be a cool name for a lunar lander

>>15192443
It makes me sad bros

>>15192450
Same and I'm not even a brit

>>15192435
Apollo 7's crew wanted to name their capsule Phoenix in memory of Apollo 1 but NASA wasn't having it.

>>15192455
>>15192456
fascinating lol

https://twitter.com/SpaceAbhi/status/1623792977771626497

NSF shooting themselves in the foot and proving ammo to antis/"concernfags" in their desperation to capture every angle you love to see it

>>15192456
>not a single atom
musksisters...

>>15192456

>>15192456
>FAA only allows Chinese spy balloons to freely roam the airspace

>>15192456
>The SIREN has yet to happen
>The enemy of my enemy is my enemy
>Total bird death is required for launch
>Vulcan will still not go into orbit even after launching and expending it’s two BE-4 engines
lol
>The FAA only allows Chinese spy balloons to freely roam the airspace
OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH this is great

>>15192443
> no roundels in space
feels bad man

>>15192443
>His Majesty's Starship 'Resilient'
>HMS Resilient
What could've been

>>15192175
>>15192434
Depressing

>>15192475
FACTS

>>15192475
kek

>>15192479
the paint scheme and little fins are cute

>>15192479
very cool, is the first stage solid fuel?

>>15192489
It's got three solid stages and a liquid kick stage for fine adjustments. It's coming from the same line of thinking as the Vega and a lot of the new Chinese solids.

You don't have to read threads anymore lads

>>15191966
Going out to sea instead of staying in port isn't very good for ships. But that's not what ships are for.

>>15192502
Well until atleast you wanna know what the fuck some anons are talking about

>>15192500
>ICBMs first, launch vehicles second

>>15192348
The imperial explorer's spirit of the kingdom started to die when they lost the American colonies, and is now gone

>>15192479
The color mode looks like its made in the 70s. When was this taken?

>>15192514
Without all those colonies bongland is just a tiny island off the coast of europe, I dunno why any thinks we're a global power.

>>15192368
lol fagnerites are running around in multicam when not outright wearing ukie camo

>>15192318
I think an object that has one offset flat plane but otherwise all curved surfaces would work. Think of a nautilus shell with a flat cap on the opening.

>>15192521
Yesterday

>>15192509
>So, we've already got this nice set of missile production hardware
>you think we can make a cheap launch vehicle with it?

The SSLV first stage is just a stretched version of the Agni-V first stage. The second and third stages seem identical, so it's kind of the opposite of China putting extra stages on top of their DF-25/26/31s. Still ends up in the same place.

The ESCAPADE New Glenn contract was $20M
Jeff must've really wanted that early Mars flight

>>15192405
pulverized beetles

>>15192256
GOOD JOB BEAUTOFUL GIRL

>Vehicles driving under the OLM the day after the static fire
FONDAGbros…we won

>>15192566
This.
Deluge can wait until after launch

>>15192502
> muh rods

>No static fire until August btw

>>15192570
CSI Starbase’s video about the new concrete was really informative and gave me some hopium

>>15192376
he's coping because he flew all they way out there and then heard it and said "i thought it would be louder"

>>15192376
He’s coping because that means the static fire was less powerful than Saturn V. Idk where Angry went from shitting on blue origin for DOOMPOSTING spacex

>>15192573
I think he’s making this shit up, as far as I know a water deluge is ONLY for protecting your own pad. Why would the FAA give a shit if Musk destroys his own OLM and concrete or not on launch. The mitigation to soundwaves would be minimal on the long-distance scale, it’s a giant fucking rocket it’s going to be loud with it without a suppression system

>>15192581
The joke is that he’s 100% making it up lol

>>15192456
it just used my post verbatim

>>15192573
>gets BTFO so hard just on the same day
lmao

Its weird how the spacex reddit treats him like this all knower and making up excuses for why he is wrong with
>well things change so quickly with SpaceX you never know

kek

>>15192582
>>15192573
Literal who?

>>15192582
>hes doubling down

Your new wallpaper

>>15192611
My wallpaper is already dedicated to ARCA, sorry

>>15192611
My wallpapers cooler

>>15192456
KEK

>>15192608
larping redditor.
many such cases

Wow, astronaut senator adminstrator bill “big dick” nelson getting excited over the static fire. You love to see it bros

Bill Nelson W

https://twitter.com/senbillnelson/status/1624139186918854657?s=46&t=GrA1iyV3anXgy3RNXslQnQ

>>15192628
OMG it feels too contrived is that just me lol

>>15192628
Is this the first he's congratulated SpaceX for in the entire Biden admin time?

>>15192611
better

>>15192630
No hahahah it feels sincere

>>15192637
Based

>>15192628
I like Bill Nelson, there I said it.
Also Jim Bridenstine is on the board of ViaSat. What a fucking snake.

>>15192639
Yeah probably is, he was in Japan touring a shitload of JAXA sites yesterday & giving speeches so probably didn't have the time to post earlier

>>15192628
Thank you Sir

Next year SpaceX is deploying the PPE/HALO modules of Lunar Gateway

First time the extended fairing will be used

>>15192644
Bridenstine was a commercial space pioneer. Viasat flies on Falcon rockets.

>>15192628
based
>Starship is integral to NASA's... Mars architecture
we're going

>>15192655
NASA is serious about Moon to Mars and SpaceX is serious about Mars so...

>>15192628
>>15192630
>>15192639
He's 80 years old, obviously didn't tweet this himself.

>>15192662
Biden cope

>>15192662
He damn sure had to approve it

>>15192662
Humans simply lose the ability to use the internet once they turn 75, everyone know this trust me

>>15192637
Slight change

>>15192649
That next one is gonna look wacky with the asymmetrically darkened boosters

>>15192672
I think it looks cool

>>15192608
>interesting repetitive decimal
Maybe if you had full spectrum autism you would find that interesting, but then you wouldn't be working in aerospace.

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1624136485027909652

F-22 is King of the skies

>>15192662
Twitter is not that new. Plenty of old fart politicians tweet themselves or dictate to a secretary.

>>15192691

BO is hiring: "Propulsion Engineer – Nuclear Rocket Engine Design Integration"

ooh

>>15192704
its for the thing

>>15192691
Apparently they shot down two, but I didn’t think it would be F-22s again lmao. Not that it’s impressive or anything but it’s still cool that it’s getting action instead of F-16s or something like I expected with the first one

>>15192704
I wish BO was more public about even half of the weird secret projects they've been up to lately.

>>15192707
Doing its job as a high altitude interceptor

>>15192704
They are a contractor on NASA and DARPA’s DRACO project, which will test nuclear thermal propulsion in 2027

Lockheed Martin is also a contractor with General Atomics leading the project

https://www.engadget.com/darpa-lockheed-martin-blue-origin-nuclear-spacecraft-100547792.html

>>15192711
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1624150738447536128

>>15192712
My post was wrong. I thought they shot down 2 today. I misread my source

>>15192718
>Super Heavy Booster 7 completed a full duration static fire test of 31 Raptor engines, producing 7.9 million lbf of thrust (~3,600 metric tons) – less than half of the booster’s capability

>login to ars
>another hit piece by josh brodkin
>purposefully ignores the fact that ukraine was in violation of ITAR
this isnt even news, its clickbait designed to generate hate for elon and spacex

>>15192711
>>15192718
Liftoff images are gonna make me cuuummm

>>15192644
>pic
why are the astronauts floating? why doesn't the two coupled spacecraft topple over? wtf

>>15192718
>>15192721
>larper >>15192608 gets BTFO within the same day AGAIN
HAHAHAHAH

>>15192722
The only person of value at ars is Berger posts. Nothing else. Josh Brodkin has always been a Musk hater. He's just a symptom of the far left hate for the rich.

>>15192721
>less than half
Noo way

>>15192729
Can't make this shit up lmao

oh wait he can

>>15192731
i like john timmer's too. he's pretty good at explaining complex science topics.

>>15192721
SLS stay winning lmao

>>15192721
>Super Heavy can still launch a payload with half thrust

Rocket Lab's Adam Spice:
>we're at the beginning of the bloodletting of aspirational launch companies. Won't see much M&A activity; the weak will just die.

>>15192742
>autist doesn't understand what people say

>>15192725
It's on an asteroid. If you're lucky the local gravity will be something in the mm/s2 range.

>>15192742
When Elon said they could get to orbit with that, either he was telling a half truth or he didn't actually know what they were testing

>>15192456
>Total bird death is required
Quick someone use the AI voice thing

>>15192743
And a VO guy was on the panel with him
2023 is gonna be fun

>>15192749
refer to this >>15192745
he was doing neither. he simply said 31 engines were enough for orbit. any autistic interpolation beyond that belongs shoved in the locker

>>15192745
???? it can still launch with that I meant (not Starship obviously) but a less massive upper stage

rockets are like legos you know

(Orion)

>>15192750
>Fry birds with Raptor engines. Roundhouse kick birds into exhaust plumes. Fly birds to space and release them as payloads. Launch birds into the Sun.

>At the FAA conference luncheon, Sen. Mark Kelly said a priority for him will be improving launch capabilities, including support for companies to increase launch rates and regulatory reforms. That will include using this year’s NDAA and FAA reauthorization to address them.
My senator :)

Roundhouse kick a bird into FONDAG

>>15192761
I like Scott Kelly I don’t care if he’s a democrat at least he’s not a schizo or some shit

>>15192368
Rogozin has suggested he was the one leaked the location of Dimis birthday party cum sex change to the ukies kek

>>15192752
Exactly. People are unable to contextualize these days. Its sad.

>>15192711
New desktop background

Does this mean SpaceX will redo the static fire if it was only half thrust?

>>15192780
Maybe. Launch can also serve as another static fire and then either it goes or it doesn't.

Holy shit

We are going

>>15192786
I wonder how many tiles fell off the ship after this test

>>15192790
All of them

>>15192790
All of them that’s why it’s shiny

>>15192746
ok but the horizon should be much closer and it should be nowhere near the Moon

>>15192770
scott is mark's twin brother. mark is senator in az, both are astronauts

>>15192745
Whose the autist now
>>15192754

>>15192456
>Total bird death is required for launch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PMiND4Yw
>the Chinese Daqi-1/AEMS satellite was caught using a laser to scan hawaii a couple of weeks ago
its getting serious

>>15192841

I just applied for blue origin

help

Imagine the FAA regulatory bullshittery

>>15192849
It will never happen its genuinely unnecessary, 9m is perfect, it can support a 12m fairing most likely

>>15192849
this is 17.5m btw

>>15192649
the extended fairing is for Gateway?

>>15192852
>genuinely unnecessary
Did he fucking stutter? A spacer's right to one kiloton in low Earth orbit…shall not be infringed

>>15192714
damn how many contracts does BO have

>>15192841
looks dope af. but why are they using the visible spectrum

>>15192721
Angry Astronaut was right!

>>15192789
>no ice falling off booster
how come ?

>>15192080
I love russhits. The more their aerospace industry falls appart, the more they pump retarded powerpoint sci fi shit.

>>15192841
which astro-anon was here to speculate. Maybe this is the laser for adaptive optics?

>>15192853
which rocket is that?

For those playing alone at home, 1 Crore is 10,000 ISR, and 56cr converts to about US$6.8M. Some other sources are stating that the SSLV only costs about $4M (30cr) to manufacture.

As a reference, Electron cost US$7.5M, while lifting about 200kg less to LEO and 100kg less to SSO than the SSLV does.

This could be interesting.

>>15192871
Super Starship and GigaHeavy

>>15192869
>which
wish*

>>15192256
>Appointed supporter
fuck does that mean

>>15192883
サポーター就任

>>15192849
>Probably name it the Spruce Goose

>>15192859
He followed it up a year or so later saying 9m might have been a bit too big

>>15192871
The YMV

>>15192889
He also said that at one point they actually wanted to make it bigger but sized it down to 9m

>>15192889
Because it's a massive pain in the ass when the weight of available payloads have barely caught up to Falcon Heavy, not because they are not going to

>>15192894
duh, ITS was 12m. they even built a full size test tank

>>15192292
i can feel this image healing my soul

>>15192905
carbon cringe steel based

>>15192898
Also because the benefits of full reusability have diminishing returns the bigger the ship. increases fixed costs too. Consider Boeing is no longer developing 747. Low demand + higher fixed costs. Would likely need to exclusively launch an 18m from ocean platforms

>>15192905
It is for the best but I do miss the impractical and more-complicated ITS design a little

I hope to see it return someday as an 18m variant using stainless steel instead of the carbon fiber

>>15192431
They should use Royal Navy style
>Terror
>Indestructible
>Irreversible
>Inflexible
>Incorruptible
>Incorrigible
>Ajax

>>15192905
>full size
full diameter

>>15192910
The power of anime

reminder that Saturn V is girthier than SS

Blue Origin demonstrated the first step to making a lunar Von Neumann machine, they showed how to make solar cells from lunar dirt. These solar cells could be used to power machines to make more solar cells.
https://www.blueorigin.com/news/blue-alchemist-powers-our-lunar-future/

>>15192936
That's really cool, honestly.

>>15192936
inb4 grey goo until the entire lunar surface is one giant solar cell construct

>>15192935
>Saturn V is girthier than SS
Only for 2 and a half minutes bitchboy

>>15192935
on average along the length the girth is smaller

>>15192439
why is there so much unburnt fuel

>>15192935
Only at the base, women dont care about base girth. They want to feel the girl all the way at the top

>>15192950
>They want to feel the girl all the way at the top

>>15192949
Fuel rich to save the engines some wear/weigh it down

>>15192949
Its propellant is natural gas technically, so it's only actually 99% methane and 1% random bullshit.

They wanted to set up a purification plant but FAA was making such a fuss over it that SpaceX said fuck it and dropped that part of the request

>>15192948
>>15192950
>t.

>>15192955
>>15192956
Two absolutely retarded answers to the question posed.

>>15192966
t. knows even less than nothing

>>15192936
Blue Origin listened to me :)
>>15192710

>>15192637
This inspires hope.

>>15192973
Oh shit I meant to post this the other day randomly but didn't. Seems appropriate

>>15192434
Wrong. Skylon was never meant to exist, it was just a 'look what you could do with these engines' thing

>>15192973
Well Berger was once again right when he said on MECO that BOs only future was to focus on cornering novel aspects of space flight such as ISRU fabrication and stuff. Not that they've 'conquered' it with one little prototype, but this shows they are focusing on things SX aren't putting direct public attention on

>>15192219
That's insane

>>15192263
stop shilling your shit videos here faggot

>>15192936
>pop sci buzzwords galore
BO learned how to make a solar panel. Newsflash, it's made from the same raw materials as regular panels

>>15192263
It's only "intuitive" in hindsight

>>15192263
Yeah this one was pretty worthless. He had some good ones though.

>>15192936
>Blue origin found a way to make Silicon solar cells out of... Silicon

>>15192855
Yep, for the PPE and HALO modules that will be launched together

https://youtu.be/IixZwBxZmdQ
RECAP: SPACEX NEEDS TO REDO THE STATIC FIRE

>>15192941
He's gonna build self-replicating Amazon fulfillment centers on the goddamn Moon. Exponential growth means exponential wagie suffering. Here's an illustration of what the future may hold.
>>15192997
>>same raw materials
the raw material here is moon dirt.
>>15193014
they found a way to extract silicon from moon dirt and purify it to grades high enough to make solar cells using processes that are suitable for use on the moon. And the glass, and the wires, and all the other crap you need. From dirt.

>>15193018
RECAP: NTMA

>>15193014
>>15192997
that will be 3 Billion plus tip
>>15193020
and on Earth it's Earth dirt. fuckin amazing

>>15193023
Stop DOOMing. I agree it's not a breakthrough but it's R&D that needs to be done one way or the other.

>>15192608
7.9 million lbf = 35 meganewtons. less than half full thrust. LESS THAN SLS. embarrassing for the redditor, and even more so for spacex. they will absolutely do it again with higher thrust, and 33 engines.

>>15193035
>and even more so for spacex
meds

>>15192671
ah the ansuini version

>>15193033
point is it's not a fuckin von Neumann probe lmao

>>15193041
obviously not. it's a solar panel factory. nothing self replicating to it at all

>>15193037
He needs a higher dose of hopium.

>>15193037
A full water deluge system is necessary for full thrust 33 engine fire. There's nothing around that. Expect launch in september

Berger with hot takes

>>15193053
QRD on “it’s time to deliver”

>>15193062
Jim Bridenstein on the even of Elon revealing Starship update on Boca. Most took it as a snub to Musk/SpaceX, Berger tried to take it as a criticism of Boeing. Which I don't buy, but w/e.

>>15193062

Why is Tom Mueller antagonizing?

>>15193070
>antagonizing
That's some pretty mild cheek desu

>>15192841
>>15192869
I'd say AO is rather unlikely. It's pretty unclear wether it would really work at all in reverse, and even if it could be done they would probably use it on the day side and wouldn't need a laser.

My first thought was some kind of altimetry, I was not aware some missions used visible lasers but apparently IceSat-2 does. ESA's ADM-Aeolus also uses a laser to measure wind velocity profiles, it's one is UV though. It's also possible to use it to measuring scattering from aerosols and clouds, like CALIPSO. I think there are quite a few reasons to use a laser for earth observations without invoking something exotic.

It's very cool though, never seen anything like that before.

>>15193062
that shit was so weird and uncalled for

>>15193023
solar cells on earth are made using toxic chemicals which are hard to obtain on the Moon. Worse yet they require water and there ain't fucking much of that on the Moon. They use a process which doesn't need these chemicals. They take dirt, melt it to lava and pass electricity through it to electrolyze it, turning molten oxides in dirt into metals. They get a mixture of molten iron and silicon along with some other crap from this. Somehow, they're able to refine out the silicon from the molten iron, get aluminum out, and make glass. All of these are no small feat. Oh and did I mention that lava is fucking corrosive? Not only does it melt crap, molten silicates are very good at dissolving stuff. Getting silicon out has been tried before, but it didn't work great. No one got to the point where they could make solar cells. I don't think anyone's extracted aluminum from fucking lava like this either. Yeah, Hall–Héroult process does this, but that requires cryolite. Can't get cryolite on the goddamn moon.
>>15193033
If they really worked out all the steps to make solar cells and the solar cells efficiency isn't utter shit it's a breakthrough.
>>15193043
>>15193041
as I said, it's a first step. If you can't power a von neumann machine, you can't build one. Now, depending on how good the silicon they produced is they might be able to make shitty transistors and associated electronics. Huge, not very fast, but better than vacuum tubes. The process for making solar cells ain't too different from making transistors.

>>15193062
ask twitter instead

What’s your most anticipated robotic mission of the 2020’s?

>>15193070
LMAO, another tankwatcher

>>15193084
Starship first landing on Mars, bringing dozens of scouting rovers with it to analyze for water presence on the surface and see if it's a good landing spot for the first manned missions.

Could a fully fueled starship in LEO be able to get Dragonfly to Titan on a direct trajectory?

>google von neumann machine
>6 wikipedia pages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_machine
Is there anything this man didn't do?

>>15193107
>Is there anything this man didn't do?
Live a normal lifespan.

>>15193116
If he hadn't died so young we'd have a dyson sphere by now

>>15193075
Moon has the advantage of vacuum which probably makes the process easier.

>>15193101
Yeah

My guess is 1 more static fire of 33 at half thrust (after raptor swaps). install deluge system. static fire full 33 at 75% thrust. static fire full 33 at 100% thrust. repeat with a fueled starship on top. evaluate data. start launch license process. assuming the ship or booster dont break or get scrapped after testing, I think december is a real possibility

>>15193133
Wrong by many months. They're launching pretty soon.

>>15193133
Wrong

>>15193139
>>15193147
it was 2 years before the first 9 engine static fire of F9 till the first launch

>>15193152
Reasoning from analogy leads you nowhere my friend.