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>>15194895BLYATTTTT
>>15194901god, what have I done with my life
I still believe the same MMOD shower could have hit both Soyuz and progress at the same moment
>>151948954 years until NASA/DARPAs NTP test How do you think people and other countries will respond to nuclear shit being sent into space?
>>15194927Impotent seething.
>>15194917And broken the exact same system on both crafts? It’s not likely
SpaceX needs to start keeping a Falcon 9+Dragon on standby at all time for potential rescue missions
>>15194895>not picrel>no editionrusnigger thread rejected
>>15194927It won't happen, if it does happen I'll do a beck.
>>15194946I second this
>>15194753
>>15194917kek
>>15194901To continue the discussion of Von Neumann, I find it kind of funny how he ended up converting to Catholicism on his deathbead on the basis of Pascal's wager.
>>15194927KSP looking render
>>15194952heh
>>15194952i cant think of any other song he'd play
>>15194974lmao what a character
>>15194942the methane's supposed to burn inside the engine
>>15194916Pal, I used to compare my acomplishments with that of John Carmack, which did not really help matters.Once you accept the reality of the numbers game and that these people often lived during extraodinary times under specific circumstances with their own goals/speed at which they moved, it helps to not measure yourself against them.I know that sounds kind of canned, and it is somewhat, but it's important not to get too bogged down by what others do that you forget what you can do with your potential with your life.On a lighter note, here's a summary of the previous thread.
>>15194895
We were robbed
>>15194917I can’t believe people are THIS retarded.Are you actually too new to remember nauka?
>>15195022AAAAAAAAAHIM LOOOOOOOOOKIIIIIING
>>15194912not really, other engineers are better than me *and* have a social life. How do they do it?
>>15195048>how do you get good at somethingyou do it a lot
>>15195048Some people are just born better.
>2008Is anyone else blown away by the fact that the first Falcon 9’s were built even before Falcon 1 successfully reached orbit?
>>15195053The Falcon 1 took a long time to reach orbit, 3 years Between the first time it went on the pad (October 2005) and its first successful launch (September 2008)
>>15194927I doubt it, personally. DARPA might have some spook shit up their sleeves but from talking to a few NASA Glenn guys at a conference I attended a few weeks ago the materials science is at least a decade out from a viable system. At least one that can handle a burn, Mars cruise, and relight on the other end to slow down.
>>15195062Similar to starship. When you think about it, it makes sense, as the Falcon 1 was a totally new design for SpaceX, just like Starship is also a totally new design from the entire Falcon family of rockets.
>multiple objects detected over canadahttps://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1624516022848872448now that the cold war is back, maybe we'll see a new space race
>>15195118
>>15195118Their secret plan to deplete Sidewinders.
>>15195118>thinking it's the chinamenThis is the start of an alien invasion.
>>15195118Ayy lmao, all the nukes are getting disabled!
>>15195121Why, to force more ASRAAM purchases?
>>15195118Actual ayys. fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
>>15194927Lockheed will beat them to it with their miniaturized nuclear reactor that's really a linear fission rocket in disguise.>see the chief scientist on the project's dissertation
>>15195118i hate balloons so much it's unreal
>>15194252I believe this is an institutional failure.Getting a scientist career is not about how intelligent you are, it's about how much you can endure the academic grind of writing a bunch of bullshit, and also the networking within academia to get to the positions you want. Also, you have to deal with old fags who will not let you challenge them, and shit heads who want to fuck with you.
SpaceX in 2008
>>15195123>>15195130Oh dear, imagine all that sweet ayypussy
>>15195118Spooky but he can handle it.>>15195131QRD?
>>15195118>>15195139f-22 took it out alreadyhttps://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1624527579116871681
>>15195118https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1624527579116871681F-22 is racking up more balloon kills.
>>15195118These are the same as the Alaska cylinders. I guess we'll find out before monday what they are.
bigger
>>15195141Known colloquially as >F22 popper
Why is RocketLab building Neutron when they said that Electron will hit 100 launches a year
they updated the flickr btw
>>15195145They were wrong. Reusability is the only way.
christ figure
STARSHIP ATTACK SQUADRON
>>15195154been telling /x/ it's an inverted cross
>>15195160le tic tac
I have bad eyesight. Can someone please read the small letters for me?
>>15195161how can it be inverted? it looks right side up to me
>>15195164It's "the missile knows where it is" pasta.
>>15195136but they're coming for your bussy
>>15195165
>>15195175wat does /x/ think about starship? will it collide with the dome?
but yeah, new space race except actual colonization of space
I hate how SpaceX is celebrating this failed static fire on their social media
>>15195182Dilate
>>15195182Me too bro, me too. It's gonna be probably till September like that insider said
>>15195160There is no fucking reason to make a balloon of this length to girth ratio.What the fuck is this bros?
>>15195188
>>15195192benis :DDDDDD
>>15195192Fake. There are no Wawas in Canada.
>>15195182Coping, I will be surprised if raptors work properly during launch.
>the tic tac mystery is on the verge of being resolvedbest timelin>>15195195That footage is in the US. Canada was a separate object.
>>15195189Two Zenit boosters, an Atlas V CCB, and a 5 meter DCSS?
>>15195198>That footage is in the US. Canada was a separate object.that's the Alaska UFOs?
>>15195201No we haven't seen it. A description was going around of it being cylindrical though which would match this.The footage is in the US. Additionally Trudeu tweeted that something was shot down over Yukon.Something is happening.
This is what they took from you
Ayy invasion upon us
>>15195210And nothing of value was lost.
>>15195206>Something is happening.
>>15195206>something is happeningpeople have birthdays and let go of balloons wowowowow
>>15195215You saw the chinese balloon. It was nothing like this. In fact even zeppelins don't really look like that.
>china sends inexpensive balloons>U.S shoots them down with costly payloadswhy haven't they switched to lasers yet
>>15195219because they arent balloons...and they arent chinese......
>B7 successful static fire>Aliens are getting scared
unironically what are the odds that it's ayys. I hope it is so we can rid the galaxy of those soulless fucks.
>>15195236This is the reality I choose to live in. Fear us xenos scum.
Whatever happened to this
>>15195242>>15195243What is your problem? You guys don't even know what we want yet
>>15195210They did a good job then.
>>15195245russia can't even manufacture Progress spacecraft reliably anymore
>>15195245It's exactly where Russia left it. Right there, in a jpg.
>>15195245it's uhhgone buy some milkyeah
>>15195236IM FROM BUENOS AIRES AND I SAY LAUNCH EM ALL
>>15195249https://vocaroo.com/1gG35uRTszPG
>>15195223Might not be balloons, but they're definitely chinese.
>>15195193Spring launch confirmed
SMRs are GOhttps://twitter.com/GovNuclear/status/1616458985468760065
Today I will remind them
>>15195269Nice, but>2029
>>15195275I don't see any commercial fusion happening before 2031-2032 so it still works out.
>>15195262>https://vocaroo.com/1gG35uRTszPGThese aren't blue cat niggers living in the longhouse, they are galactic conquerors and we are fucked
>>15195269>7 years to approve a tiny 50MW putt putt nuke>designer not even planning on using it, want to upscale to 77MW but not yet approved>online in 2029You thought the FAA was bad? NRC will single handly kill our energy dominance
>>15195277Okay Liu Cixin but what if the aliens are horny empaths with big tits. Three of em
>>15195277we are the blue cat niggers>>15195276fusion will unironically leapfrog fission andthe only reason why is bureaucracy. in fission, at least you're allowed to innovate quickly. in fission it's fucking impossible
>>15195277>Yes, I too can copy paste blocks of text from Charles Pellegrino and George Zebrowski's book, "The Killing Star," that was helpfully posted on Winchell Chung's website, Atomic Rockets
>>15195189uwu
>>15195210>we were robbed
>>15195290*in fusion youre allowed to innovate
>>15195291womp womp
>>15195277If your pic rel were true then they wouldn't be sending scout aircraft.
I have a feeling Tom Cruise is never going to space
>>15195296I'd say
>>15195296Why the fuck do you need 6 SSME, what's in that fairing?
>>15195296dios mio...
>>15195334Your mom lmao.
>>15194873The only people more tiresome than Trek fags are Culture queers
>>15195142shiieet who da fuck is dey
>>15195326Never got this desu, the EAP weren't very expensive, ~20-30M€ from various estimates I've seen, that's 10-20% of the cost of the A5 depending on who you want to believe, reusing that doesn't make economic sense, the added performances are also not necessary.
>>15195336kill me
>>15195118>/sfg/ doesn't recognize falcon heavylike pottery
>>15195118shiieet das crazy
>>15195118It's just tictac aliens keeping an eye on us because they think we're about to do a nuclear war
>>15195360UFO bro
>>15195296$1000000000 billion plus tip please!
>>15195334That's about 110 tons of payload in a 10m fairing. The reference I found was from an early eighties MMA paper that's mostly talking about how the Shuttle fleet is going to need to expand to five orbiters in order to meet the launch demand for the 1990s, and will need a sixth to be online by 2000, with all of them flying 8 flights per year. There were some possible issues perceived with this, so a SDV was proposed to handle large missions that would otherwise need to be broken up across multiple launches. Given the time-frame something like this would have either been used for a prospective lunar program or SDI.
Cosmic perspective kino of static fire btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLlLxzU1Mbohope they release some super slomo on their channel still
>>15195118That looks slightly different from a tic-tac, so it can't be ayys
>>15195386Crazy that tim is slotted to ride this thing… one day. Maybe. They might go up and down on a dragon
>>15195374>Economic Analysis>The STS alone and the STS/SDCV mixed fleet were compared with respect to satisfying the low mission model. This model projects a total of 621 STS flights vs 550 STS/SDCV flights during the 1982 through 2000 operational time frame...Additional orbiters are procured incrementally over time as required to support flight rates - 2 in the late 1980s and 5 in the early 1990s for a total of 7 beyond the present STS 4 orbiter fleet.I stand corrected; they were actually talking about an ELEVEN orbiter fleet. >The economic analysis included an assessment of the cost sensitivity to mission model variations. A high mission model, consisting of 898 STS flights vs 695 STS-SDCV flights, was evaluated in addition to the low mission model previously described. The analysis was expanded to include the remaining 2 SDV launch vehicles, DBV-6A and DBV-6B. Flight rates for the STS/L)BV configurations were reduced to account for the increased performance of the DBV launch vehiclesCutting off the equivalent of 200 shuttle launches is a significant cost savings! In their defense, they weren’t expecting the cold war to end, SDI was going to need a stupid amount of launches, and in 1982 congress hadn’t quite killed off the idea of an American space station yet. >In summary, an SDV, operating in conjunction with the STS will accommodate currently projected NASA, DOD, commercial and foreign needs while simultaneously offering increased flexibility and significant reductions in space launch activity costs.But I don’t think you were as wrong about the price as you might have intended to be.
>>15194927I'm going to assume any tests will launch from the moon, or moon orbit. Not from Earth. The exhaust will be highly radioactive.>>15195077I heard the plan for a Mars NTP run was to burn the whole way there with the acceleration providing microg. Then at Mars a second NTP stage would burn the whole way back. These will not be resusable rockets for a long time.
Any updates on the construction of the next SLS?
>>15195397posts like this prove sfg is full of retards
>>15195280Add nuke to anything and the time scale goes all to fuck. Good think about the current war is russia was funding a lot of the anti nuke sentiment.
>>15195397Nuclear rockets seem like a solution looking for a problem.Unless you're talking about fission fragment or NSWR
>>15195399Canceled due to coronavirus, so sorry.
>>15195399I think it’s like halfway done if not more. At least in terms of major components. It’s still a long ways away though
>>15195402They solve the cislunar patrol craft problem better than a near term alternative since you need an assload of delta-V and you're inside the planetary gravity well the entire time.
>>15195396would have been fun if the USSR answered massive american SDI launch cadence buildup with just reusing zenits lol
>>15195397>The exhaust will be highly radioactive.>a low thrust, high ISP engine won't take off from the EarthYou don't say lmaoCould you clarify again why the exhaust will be "highly radioactive"?
>>15195118I need to hear Elon's opinion on this RIGHT NOW
>>15195407
>>15195411Source?
>>15195399they just tested the engines and i think the core is done, but its still a long way from being finished
>>15195410Just look for the top post on reddit, that's elon's opinion
>>15195413I have no clue I stole them from a couple of threads ago
>>15195410try asking him on twitter
>https://globalnews.ca/news/9480578/b-c-mystery-fireball-okanagan/>fireball hovering in the sky
>>15195397no that's nuclear electric
>>15195424>hoveringballoon
>>15195408Maybe you could explain why it wouldn't be instead of dumping attitude on anyone who challenges your opinions.The NTP rocket design I have seen used plates of radioactive material to expand gas passing through. These plates break apart due to the stresses within the combustion chamber. Has this problem been fixed? Is there a more advanced design now? Are you just talking out of your ass?
>>15195424There’s an X-File on it don’t worry
>>15195430the fuel elements shedding material hasn't been a problem since the sixties my dude
>>15195411Once more I have to ask, "who the hell is proposing a Zenit-2 Heavy?" Because this is the only Soviet Zenit heavy concept I've ever been able to find, and that ain't this.
>>15195432I'm still just seeing a wall of public opinion that would prevent any nuclear rocket being launched from earth. I'd need to look at a basic schematic but that won't convince most normies.
>>15195418>Two-stage rocket based on tetrafluorohydrazineAhhhhhh yes seems reasonable to me
>>15195440Amazing things are possible when you classify the work crews as expendable GSE.
>>15195437eat my ass michio kaku
>>15195437Public opinion can be turned literally on a dime if the state chooses to do so.
>>15195437>public opinion that would prevent any nuclear rocket being launched from earth...In the West. This is a late 50s or early 60s R7 variant with an ammonia-fueled nuclear core stage. It was expected to lift about 40 tons to LEO, and if they felt they needed it, they would have built it. The Soviet's wouldn't have given two shits about public opinion.These days you'd have to look to China for something like this. Their superheavy-lift and reusability programs seem to be progressing at an acceptable pace, but if Starship gets too far ahead of everyone else there's always the chance they'd reach for something crazy to close the gap some.
>>15195450Yea and everything I'm finding in my search engines disagrees with you guys. Even if the plates no longer break up the exhaust itself will be impregnated with neutrons, becoming radioactive as a result.
>>15195456imagine the six way korolev cross though
>>15195457poop poo poop piss piss shit cum poop poop piss shit cum
>>15195457>impregnated with neutrons, becoming radioactive as a result.h-hot
>small cylindrical object
>>15195464If they use hydrogen as the propellant some of the gas will glow green.
>>15195424>MorningChemtrail catching the light of the rising sun.
wait wtf is going on, the one they just shot down in canada wasnt a balloon either?
>>15195459Once again, we are robbed of some of the best looking launch vehicles. Roscosmos has proposed 2 booster versions of Soyuz before. I wonder why we've never seen any. A version with zero to six boosters could cover a huge range of payloads and it wouldn't require developing any new technology or building any new launch pads.
>>15195475It was exactly the same thing as was shot down over Alaska. Totally different than the spy balloon.
>>15195475dog and pony show by USG and their satellite state Canada
>>15195475Yeah, rendezvousing pilots couldn’t identify a propulsion system (within reason I guess, could have just been a static balloon) and some reported their aircraft systems glitching out (spooky but probably explainable. But still spooky. And schizo fuel to the max)
>>15195274oh you're still alive. Time proved you right, it seems.
>>15195483>some reported their aircraft systems glitching outNo fucking way. Source?
>>15195480Wrong
>>15195457Didn't seem to bother them when they were testing NERVA at Jackass Flats
>>15195486https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1624563378961231874
>>15195483probably interference caused by their electronic packages>>15195486it was in the cnn article from yesterday where they interviewed some of the pilotshttps://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/11/politics/unidentified-object-alaska-military-latest/index.html
The great American psyop continues
>>15195490Just to add on to this: it’s not like the pilots were expected to buzz right by the damn thing, so not being able to identify a propulsion system (if any) isn’t that fishyAnd assuming she didn’t misspeak and it was F-35s that were sent up to get a look, I don’t think it’s too out of the ordinary for sensors to start acting amiss. It’s still a new plane
>>15195491Loss of communication can only mean one thing
>>15195497pilots are extremely dumb people, lets wait for the recovery team to tell us what it was
>>15195491>cnn interviewed pilotsOh great another limited hangout like that fag David Fravor
>>15195424What the fuck is going on? This is like the 10th UFO/weird sky thing in Canada this week>>15195472read the article, he says it stayed like that after sunrise
>>15195501Military pilots need at least a bachelors, most have masters.
>>15195500kek
>>15195509NTA but some of the most retarded people I’ve ever interacted with held masters or PhDs
>>15195508>he saysGreat, let's see his picture of it after sunrise. Without that he's just some fag looking for attention.
Let's say there really were aliens flying around at high speeds with no propulsion. Would they think that rockets are silly or cool?>lol these guys haven't even figured out AG, but they're just brute forcing their way into space with giant explosion tubes
>>15195516Like /sci/ posters for example.
>>15195519It’s not even worth discussing. They would think SLS is gay and they would think Starship is a cute little novelty, but cool
>>15195509That's means absolutely fuck all. Mouthbreathers can get their masters in the current academia
>>15195497They may have intentionally used an older plane to avoid providing intelligence on their top model. If such craft is a spy craft, which would be the most likely explanation. Electronic warfare is also pretty standard these days and would work more easily against older aircraft.
>>15195524Well it seems like we’re sending up F-22s and F-35s, which are far from “old” lol
>>15195526They also used an AIM-9X, which isn't exactly an old missile either.
>>15195526F22 is 25yo. F-35 is 16yo.
>national defense flight restriction over montana
>>15195519>giant explosion tubesNothing wrong with tubes I say.
>>15195521/sci/ consists of 40% sewage overflow from other boards, 20% /x/ schizo bullshit, and 15% undergrads talking out of their asses about things they don't understand. The other 5% are generals which are sometimes worth a damn.
it's joever
>>15195542/sfg/ is at least 2/3 of that 5% by post count.
>>15195542Ah shit. That 40% should be a 60%. More proof that /sci/ is populated by retards.
>tic tac UFOs turn out to be balloonsThis would be so funny, UFO fags deserve to be embarrassed for shitting up my boards with their breathless theories.
>>15195495I'm sorry the Hopkinsville goblin story made you wet the bed Mick but you'll have to get over it
>>15195549Yeah chinese electronic warfare balloon platforms would match all the evidence pretty well.
> skeplets huffing copium megadosesyeah sure its the chingchongs bro lmfao
>>15195567I don't believe for a second that Canada would be capable of shooting down an alien spacecraft
>>15195567Didn't you see what that other guy posted? He doesn't like UFO posts. Delete this before you upset him.
>>15195584Nah. I just know that ET UFOs don't get shot down anymore.
>>15195567Maybe it's just the russians
>>15195519The younger ayys would lol at us, but the older and wiser ones would remind them that they were no different, a thousand years ago.
>>15195567XCOM is carrying out an operation as we speak
wtf a swamp gas just flew over my house
>>15195542>15% undergrads talking out of their asses about things they don't understandcompletely untrue. I always skim the relevant wikipedia article before posting.
>>15195603They'd be absolutely fascinated by turbopumps and intricate pipeworks the same way we are fascinated by clockwork automata
>>15195391Not gonna happen. All SpaceX production will be directed towards national security production to battle the balloon aliens.
>>15194927>fucking finally Hopefully by extension this repulsion of the atomic fear leads to eventually ditching the more insane green faggotry like wind turbines and to the only few viable green options on earth like fission reactors
>>15195603And we will one day exterminate both the younger and the older ayys.
>>15195456changs are fake and gay edition of a imperial larp. I would not trist absolutely anything coming from their mouths as saving face and cutting corners are the han supremacists national ethos. Governmental programs like space agency are extremely vulnerable to this mentality on account of nepotism alone.
>>15195519They won't contact us or give us a hint until they see us using plasma sails to traverse our solar system at speed>finally, they're learning
>>15195622>plasma sails>>>/lit/21638744
>>15195603fucking xoomers
>>15195645huh, didn't know there was an unironic science fiction general
Does anybody know if there's a full unedited unclassified collection of Werner Von Braun's work in PDF or book form? I'd honestly prefer to read from the man himself as opposed to being presented some (((revisionist))) garbage about how evil he was. Stuff like the V2 development, testing, and the work done before the end of WW2.
>>15195193>>15195188That guy also claimed 63 MNs when it was nowhere near that, and that the static fire wouldn't happen on thursday. He is a known liar.
Please visit this link its extremely important pastebin.com/svsfjW1s
>>15195684>Dargonism:>Dargonism is the practice of taking permanent ‘waifus’ in exchange for services against pure evil. In our area, it has a reasonably pure origin (ask). Many churches make guarantees. There are lock-in and no lock-in churches. Don't start taking waifus without talking with us first, there are threats to our kind out there.what advanced skizo shit is thisI'm scared
>>15195684
>>15195118This fake footage is from PA, not Canada. Wawa doesn't exist up here and Yukon is a frigid shithole right now
>>15195684this is what no starship launch does to a mf
>>15195397NTP isn't designed to be 100% reusable, but the current mission architecture would require at least 4 relights (Earth-Mars-Earth). Each burn is only 4-8 hours but even that is difficultFrom the Glenn guys the corrosion of fuel cladding material is the limiting factor. NTP requires much higher temperatures to achieve good efficiency than normal reactors since the higher the temperature the higher the velocity of the H2 fuel and therefore better Isp. They were talking about Mo-W cermet materials being most promising direction. Not totally my area of expertise though.
>>15195690https://pastebin.com/KaJf7H3N
>>15195702oh, now it makes perfect sense.
NORAD guy on twitter spaces claims there’s no way they would have shot down this thing unless they positively ID’d it, and it was considered a “hostile” entity. The original balloon counted because it was ID’d and violating airspace was enough for them to want to get rid of it. He says there’s no way they “don’t know what it is” for these new objects
>>15195678People still suck him off lol
>>15195719Says the rules of engagement could have been changed in the last few days though. Idk this is interestinghttps://twitter.com/i/spaces/1gqxvyZZVwWJB
>>15195719>>15195726>NORAD guy>just a bunch of larping twitterfagsplease kill yourself
>>15195730Just posting for those who are curious. You should take the balloon back to canada and request MAID
>F-22 Raptors have now BTFOd aliens 3 timesBros….
>>15195741>Then the aliens start shooting back
>>15195719Did this actually happened though? All we have are "reports", no pictures, nothing independent.And straightaway there is CNN calling it a UFO and holding interviews with the pilots, and there's a spoopy narrative straight from the writers room>no visible propulsion source>It glitched out our sensors>It shattered into a billion pieces like glass>It went down in the mysterious wastes of the frozen northNo evidence that it ever really took place
My conspiracy is that it was an actual Chinese plane or something, but we realllly don’t want WW3 so it’s being kept under wraps
>"UFO" shows up in your classified military airspace>entire array of sensors/radar/seekers focus in on it>mmm succky succky sweet SIGINT>fucks off with new intel gainedwe are so stupid It's not aliens, just asymmetric clever intelligence gathering that exploits our cultural weakness, ironically thanks to the CIA/DOD preferring that narrative during the Cold War for secrecy of their spy techhttps://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos
>>15195745In my opinion these are all very normal things, but when strung together in a news segment they form a really “OMG ALIENS OR SECRET ENEMY TECH AAAAHHHH” clickbait headline. Like if I launched my own balloon the size of a car from japan or russia or china or whatever and it floated across to alaska and a couple of US jets went up to look at it of course they would say “hmmm well I mean I don’t see a propulsion system—OOP my accelerometer is acting up today ha ha, wow this thing is weird looking but I’m like 10 miles away from it, well better head back to base now that I shot it down with my AIM-9 missile” and the following news headline is “Unidentified flying object! No known propulsion system! Pilots report it interfered with plane systems!”
>>15195755AIM-9 is passive and wouldn't give any ELINT data to the balloon, that's probably why they used it over the AMRAAM.
>>15195766I think you're making a mistake by implicitly trusting the US government. There's no way in hell a pilot would mention to the media anything whatsoever about the behavior of their sensors, unless they had specific orders to do so to push some narrative.
>the object downed over Canada on Saturday was a small metallic balloon with a tethered payloadhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/flying-object-shot-down-over-canada-on-trudeaus-orders-a9e638e9that probably explains why they didnt notice the payload on the one that was in alaska
>>15195793probably because they know the chinese are also paying attention and by saying random bullshit it might throw the chinese off
>>15195798>small metallic balloon
>>15195798Ok that was a balloon but the other one might have been an alien.
>>15195296Step up your game, pleb.
This thread on /sfg/ (Space Flight General) discusses topics such as MMOD showers, nuclear tests in space, and Von Neumann's conversion to Catholicism. People discuss the potential of SpaceX keeping a Falcon 9+Dragon on standby for rescue missions, and the numbers game of comparing one's accomplishments to those of John Carmack. The thread also mentions the Falcon 1, which took three years to reach orbit between its first launch in October 2005 and its first successful launch in September 2008. This thread highlights the interesting fact that the first Falcon 9s were built even before the Falcon 1 successfully reached orbit, which is a testament to the ambition and innovation of SpaceX.
>>15194873the collectivist reeeeeeeing from the Banks' Culture fans would drown out a full power static fire
>>15195820I still don't get what anon meant by that linear fission rocket
>>15195164
>>15195830they really hate musk. idk why, i'll never read those gay books
>>15195852They're leftists. That's why they like those books, where mankind (actually aliens that stand in for man) are the pets of AI. That's also why they hate anything that will let man determine his own fate, like cheap commercial rocketships.
Why is space travel so underlooked in cyberpunk media?
Kill all chinese
>>15195881When you're writing a scifi story you have so much "budget" for suspension of disbelief. You can't travel too far away from the real world your audience lives in.With cyberpunk, you're saying>WHAT IF COMPUTARand seeing where that goes. With space travel, you're saying>WHAT IF ROCKETSHIPand seeing what that leads to. If you try to do both at once it becomes too remote and strange for the audience.
>>15195881Bladerunner, do androids dream of electric sheep, neuromancer and altered carbon all feature space as fairly central - most of them on the fear of being left behind, though. Altered carbon uses it to create a sense of inescability though
>>15195909>neuromancer>space as fairly centralOh come on. At the end the AI picks up a signal from another AI on Alpha Centauri and that's it as far as space goes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOh8fDOdWvoT-35:00. Weather has a 60% chance of not being shit.
>>15195909neuromancer was a hard read. At least it was harder than I anticipated. Lots of it felt outdated and unintentionally made me giggle
>>15195924The last arc of the book takes place in privately owned LEO stations and ships.
>>15195881Gemini RueCowboy Bebop (Ganymede)I love it when theres a planet thats basically the cyberpunk planet of a game/show so Coruscant in Star Wars has some cyberpunk elements too especially Episode II, and that one in Starfield looks good too
>>15195935Armitage III was interesting for being a cyberpunk detective story set on Mars. It was also a 90s high budget anime OVA with Lovecraft references everywhere so I loved it.
>>15195935Man not to be edgy but bebop hits harder when you’re in a depressed point in your life. I don’t watch a lot of anime aside from miyazaki films, but back when I was in my early college years I was in a really dark spot and was addicted to smoking and coffee and bebop hit the perfect spot for me. I dunno if it would feel the same going back to it now that I’m in a way better place mentally
>>15195934LEO is not space.
>>15195942You might enjoy its wackier moments more then now
>>15195881You know you didn’t lose your self controlLet’s start at the rainbow
>>15195948
>>15195881Because nobody's innovated in Cyberpunk since the 1980s. Conceptually, this includes James Cameron's Avatar.
>>15195930>the sky was the color of a tv tuned to a dead stationYou mean, black?
>>15195902>WHAT IF COMPUTAR AND ROCKETSHIP
>>15195935Cowboy Bebop is so good
>>15195957time to replay
>>15195953What is cyberpunk anyway?>electromechanical augmentation>corporations running everything>absurd sci-fi version of the internet>neon>ultraviolence>everyone is either a salaryman or has some lowlife job like a smuggler or a hacker
>>15195953>Because nobody's innovated in Cyberpunk since the 1980sShadowrun
>>15195957>Starship Von BraunUhm that's a little problematic?
>>15195965>Publication 1989
>>15195965Shadowrun is fantasy.
>>1519592820 min vent
>>15195966I wonder when people will realize all “great men” (and women) accomplished what they did through moral ambiguity.It kind of hurt learning that George Washington massacred the fuck out of Indians, Alexander was a brutal warmonger, and most of the Mercury to Apollo astronauts had affairs and were horrible fathers and husbands.
>>15195980>It kind of hurt learning that George Washington massacred the fuck out of IndiansThere is no moral reason why this should bother you. They were bastards.
>>15195981He also was hugely into slavery although he freed all of them on his deathbed.
>>15195977SpaceX stream music startedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh9gWCv2sXU
LIVEhttps://youtu.be/c-ONLPNZEjE
>>15195980>(and women)Lmao name oneEspecially one who was "morally ambiguous"
>>15195154
New Glenn transporter erector at LC-36
>>15196000The sleeping giant BEZObouta fuck musky up big time
woosh
>Fairing sep at 80 kilometersHoly shit that’s low
>>15196009Starlink's been doing it really low for a while now. Entry burn shutdown at 6100 km/h
Stage 1 landing confirmed. 160th landing of a Falcon 9.
Thank you for not shooting down stage 1, America.
>>15195996All women are morally ambiguous. They respect men, not laws.
>>15196020>>>/pol/
Good orbit. Falcon 9 Block 5 now has a 150/150 record for putting payloads where they need to go
>>15196024For reference, the current most flown active rocket is Soyuz 2, with 155 launches
I believe that SpaceX lawyers started shitting when it came to light that Ukraine was using Starlinks directly in battle.
So is f9 landing safer than any other rocket launch yet?
>>15196032The chemical warfare drones must have been an interesting revelation
>>15196032It’s a business decision. They don’t want Starlinks to become ITAR. Sucks for the Ukrainians though because watching Russia collapse is entertaining
>>15196034Why are you comparing a landing to launch?
>>15196038Mainly to see if landing is safer than launch from other companies. Sort of like to think SpaceX had gotten so good at everything that others might not be able to match even just on anything
>>15196044>>15196034The overall percentage is decent. IIrc Falcon 9 block 5, alone, though has only had 3 landing failures, with 2 of them having the booster touch down in one piece. Depending on how you see it, Falcon 9 block 5 has either a 97.9% or a 99.3% landing success rate
Turn around time is now 5days 3 hours 38 min for f9 boosters
>>15195365We are.
>>15196032Why can’t Uncle Sam just foot the bill for the entire Starlink thing? The West has been so back and forth with Ukraine it’s bizzare>Hey Ukraine take these HIMARS lol>Oh uh we can’t send you tanks though lol>Actually have some tanks>Wait no not those one
>>15196057Have you noticed that they don’t static fire boosters as often anymore?
>>15195947retard
>>15196059Still works for himars and coms. Just not being lobbed on top of drones that get sent in suicide missions
Let’s say the Soviets get to the moon in the 70s. What happens next?
>>15196066That’s good. It’s a fucking shame everyone made it sound like Starlink cut off all service to Ukraine, although Gwynne and Elon could’ve worded it better
>>15196069USA nukes the moon to clean off the commie filth.
>>15196032Ya I would too if my comfy internet providing business suddenly got caught up in a geopolitical fuckfest where one side is using it as a weapon/guidance system/whatever. Would probably withdraw all service from the region if it was me running thr show desu, not worth it.
>>15195999>I am become trash, destroyer of orbits
>Starlink turned a profit in Q4 2022Holy fuck how? Launches alone are like $30 million each
>>15196069If it's just flag and footprint but soviet then not much. Maybe Artemis happens a few decades earlier, and of course without Starship.
>>15196073They can't say the exact words due to classified sensitive information. People are just unable to understand the context these days and agree. It doesn't help that the news reporters don't want to give context to anything that might help the target of their reporting because that would mean undermining their own opinion pieces. It's a shame the journos theses days are worthless in informing people accurately.
>>15196092Speaking of Journos, has Eric Berger actually done anything in the last year or so?
>>15196085*cash flow positivebut yeah they'll go public this year or next. ALTHOUGH I dont see how that helps with funding Mars colonization if SpaceX makes Starlink public. Why would the retail investor stay invested if all the profits are returned to fund unprofitable colonization instead of investors? Would it not be better for Starlink to remain private?
>>15196095The hope is it makes so much money that both of these happen.
>>15196095Keep the majority private. Collect a fat stack of cash from a 49% equity sale.If the minority investors don't like funding Mars they can sell their shares back to SpaceX
So the Columbia astronauts all went unconscious in a few seconds during the de-pressurisation of the capsule.Though likely in considerable pain from their inner ears rupturing.That is except for one astronaut, who I guess must have held their breath? And suffered extreme pulmonary barotrauma and died shortly afterward, I'm guessing from extreme internal bleeding.The rest of the astronauts all then suffered broken necks and spines from their heads and bodies flailing around uncontrollably in their seats.
>>15196098Columbia was horrifying
>>15196059The M1s are full of classified shit and have a whole supply chain problem. They're coming as soon as we can monkey model some export versions.
>>15196100Space Shuttle was a cursed vehicle from the start.
>>15196098>>15196100>>15196107They knew what they were signing up for.
>>15195966>a little
>>15195881It's always present, but you have to be careful with it. Space colonization is an inherently hopeful thing in the face of an inherently pessimistic genre, so you either have to constrain your perspective to Earth with the colonies a strange and distant thing (Blade Runner) or use it to twist some particular knife (Edgerunners).
>>15196085Turns out providing internet to the entire planet is a pretty good business model, not like we have been telling everyone this since day one or anything.
>>15196119You can use Aliens-style space colonization, where everything is dark, oppressive, and rainy and there's always the Company looming over everything you do.
>>15195964The core of cyberpunk is asking the question "what is a person?" in a world where that definition is beginning to stretch and blur
https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1624648752471621632?t=OKXUXJ5hMtgJC8oazG3tWw&s=19Possible depot tanker variant rollout
>>15196125>no flapsWouldn't this be more like a HLS prototype?
>>15196109Everyone getting shot out to Mars should record a video that gets released in the event of their fiery demise basically saying "we don't care if we die, we signed up knowing the risks, use my death for your opinion piece and my entire estate will go towards a libel lawsuit you j*urnalist cunts"
>>15196123You don't even need to do that because Altered Carbon does cyberpunk with tropical beaches and a dead alien empire. Also Aliens is not cyberpunk.
>>15196127It's likely to stay in orbit to store fuel
>>15196129>Altered CarbonThat show is barely-watchable bilge, I don't know why you're shilling it so industriously.
>>15196131But what's the point? Why the middle man of fueling the depot then the ship if you can fuel the ship directly?
>>15196138Yes
>>15196125holy shit...it's finished
>>15196085>$30 million eachHAHHAHAHAdelusional if you think launches haven't gotten cheaper since multiple years ago.
>>15196134I'm not the other anon who mentioned it, I'm talking about the books.That show was unsalvageable trash, yeah.
>>15196138boil off ya DUMMY
>>15196138It's probably so that when a human starship goes up, instead of waiting for six tankers, with six separate refuelings which could have complications, it just tops off once then heads off.
>>15196138newfag
>>15196134He’s referring to the books, which are better and weirder. Except the first season of altered carbon has better side characters than most of the books
>>15195954Are you so young that you don't remember analog TV?
>>15196138To have fuel available 365 days a year on demand. So that HLS only needs to dock with one tanker that's in orbit and then fly off.So that any future highly energetic missions won't be limited by time constraints of having to launch/refuel multiple times in quick succession because these things would be fueled periodically throughout the years. Imagine having to wait for tanker trucks to come to your car vs going to a gas station for 2 min refill.
>>15196150I'm 20 so I don't really remember much from before about 2010
>>15196152I’m also 20 and sometimes I feel old
>>15196152UNDERAGE B& wait what
>>15195881Mainly cause the genre focus on cityrats. Didn't isn't the point of cyberpunk for reasons of dread/over bearing sense of technology and loss of identity.
>>15196161Cyberpunk is just neon noir. It presupposes some sort of fucked state of affairs. You can't have noir if you have a spaceship and can zip gaily around the solar system.
>>15196146>>15196151I guess that's it then.But how is the Methane going to remain liquid? Will it have solar panels to keep coolers on?
>>15196162Bebop is noir in space. It's what's so great about the anime
>>15196164Two words:BoilOff
>>15196165>>>/a/
>>15196164Insulated. SpaceX has hundreds page work to show how they intend on dealing with boil of problems. It's one of the hilarious things to come out of HLS selection papers where nasa points to SpaceX paper to criticize National Teams lack of procedure in dealing with boil off.
>>15196098The most fucked up thing was that the astronaut remains were intact enough when they reached the ground to be identified. Like they knew they had recovered 5 of the 7 astronauts within a couple of days.
>>15196176They recovered an intact foot. I don’t know why but that specifically disturbed me.
>>15196178Better than recovering an intact ass.
>SpaceX’s mars plan is closer to reality than NASA’sWhat the fuck? Are we really gaaaaan????
>>15196197Nothing ever happens.
>>15196125I really want to see this one stackedJust pure steel
>>15196197WE GAAAAAAAAAN
>>15196244The Internet will be filled with "yo mama's dildo XD" shitposts for weeks.
>>15195456>korolov bestagon
>>15195980>George Washington massacred the fuck out of Indians good. the noble savage is a retarded myth. the indians deserved everything they got
>>15195983 so what?
>>15196151why not just launch on demand.....missions aren't planned and done on a days notice...
>>15196082 shit business decision. A pretty rare black and white war like ukraine is excellent PR and marketing for your service. Starlink, like all Musk influenced enterprises, are just being influenced by him being up his own ass playing "political influencer" in things he really does not understand or know much about. Like the asiatic two faced hypocrate nature of russia. Pretty cringe considering he personally was humiliated by steppe zigger arrogance when he first started out with rocketry
>>15196302WE'RE NOT EVEN INDIANS
>>15196338you're right, the correct term is skræling.
>>15196318>A pretty rare black and white war like ukraineAgreed.Ukraine is globohomo central and should be obliterated
>>15196316In the new space economy we won't think in terms of "missions".Operations will go on around the clock.
>>15196368The term mission will be reserved for military stuff or exploration/colonization. LEO is just space buses.
>>15196366Here's a (You)Russia is a hellhole led by dictator. It's in everyone's best interest to stop the cancer that is Russia, at all costs.
>>15196152People who don’t remember stuff from when they were kids fascinate me, My earliest memory is from 2 yo, do you just have half a decade of life less than me?
>>15196318He literally can’t let it be used for weapons or his business is fucked. Ukraine should be sure that when they inevitably use it for weapons, they keep a tight lid on it. It’s not like Uncle Sam is gonna tattle.
>>15196454So that's why he's building Starshield.
>>15196458Yep. Do note that the US gov is well within their rights to demand the use of starlink if war were declared.
>>15196469They'll have to contract with staying for that. That isn't being done. Instead the Biden admin is playing this stupid game to gaslight starlink by not contacting it, but not subsiding it, by removing rural funding, and leaking contract negotiations.
>>15196489Apparently Biden admin is on a war again everything musk related. Ukraine is just getting caught in the middle of this.
>>15195476>A version with zero to six boosters could cover a huge range of payloads and it wouldn't require developing any new technology or building any new launch pads.Precisely because a version with zero to six boosters could cover a huge range of payloads and it wouldn't require developing any new technology or building any new launch pads.How else are all these design bureaus supposed to make money?You think Russia NEEDS 6 different types of ICBMs and 7 different types of SLBMs?You think Russia NEEDS 4 cosmodromes (Vostochny, Plesecks, Dombarovsky, Kapustin Yar) in adition to maintaing Baikonur?
>>15196489>>15196494Samefag redditor
>>15196494>>15196489>gaslightGay posts made by an underage
https://youtu.be/dLlLxzU1Mbokino
>>15196507>>15196514Btw I'm trans
>>15196496Vostochny is supposed to replace Baikonur when the lease expires and Plesetsk is for polar orbits. The other two are jokes, yes.
>>15195245The funds are going to the 2 day special operation in ukraine.
>late 80s ESA >Hermes was in development and receiving hundreds of millions in funding per year >ESA needed to find other destinations for it than Freedom to justify it>Solution: take Envisat/Polar platform, use half of its fuel to bring it down from 800 to 400 km, refuel it with Hermes, then use half of its fuel to bring it up to 800 km, and repeat every time they needed to justify a $500 million crewed Hermes flight This was official ESA policy for 5 years
>>15195881Lots cyberpunk IP's have a backstory about how earth is going to shit and you can get a beter life out in space on one of the colonized world's.it's a pretty common thing, are you new to cyberpunk or what or just a speadreader fag?
>>15196553Meh there could be background stories about anything. That's not the core of the cyberpunk. It could be ancient aliens for all we know or Cthulhu background. No one will care
>>15196563You’re a gay zoomer. Spaceflight living the dregs of humanity behind on a ruined earth is the basis of the original cyberpunk classic do androids dream of electric sheep, and a third of neuromancer takes place in space. You are gay
I'm gay
>>15196569Same
Was GOCE a satellite?>needed fins to stay aerodynamically stable>needed a ion thruster to continuously stay at its altitude for years It was more like a hypersonic thermosphere plane
In all seriousness,I believe there will need to be a second static, but with Raptor 2.x or 3.x or higher before an orbital attempt occurs. Still haven’t witnessed a Raptor engine relight in near vacuum. So that will be a true discovery. This ignition stuff was supposed to be all so easy. Can’t get fully reliable ignition at sea level. Holy carp. SH reusability looks like it is a decade away or more.
>zero updates on shotdoen ufosfuck the government man,buncha faggots
>>15196032SeX has blood on their hands and that's a good thing
>>15196576it's overthere is no way to sugarcoat this
>>15196576kys NSFtard
>>15196576We'll haf to wait til rapto V4
>>15196044Compare it with Shuttle reliability. Don't count the "no attempt"s, and don't count FH center cores.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches#Future_launchesThere were two B5 failures in 2020, and another in 2018 (the one that rolled and splashed, leading to a design change). They've had a good record since B5, especially considering it's only being done for cost savings. It's still not good enough for crew landings, because there's no way to attach a crew capsule after separation, and it might have G force violations.So basically it's had three failures going down, and one going up. That makes it kind of on par with Shittle, just a little worse.
Alien christmas alien christmas alien christmas alien christmas alien christmas alien christmas
>>15196059Because this was a war for the MIC, they were unhappy for so long without a new war to profit off of. Abandoning that base in Afghanistan was a quick band-aid to get rid of old stuff so that more could be made to restore the grift cycle. Notice how we're giving them stuff that's already been made, that pushes out old stuff that then needs to be replaced.Musk is not part of the MIC or OldSpace elite. There's a little gubbymint money going to Starlink, but not much.
>>15196565PK Dick in book form is schizopunk, not cyberpunk
>>15196602>January 20 2017 -I miss him, bros
>>15196602There's 0 money going towards Starlink from the government. There's some few Starlinks being used on individual basis here and there, but but thats like saying government money is going to McDonalds for some employees eating burger/fries.
>>15196616Wasn't the us army funding a part of starlink?
>>15196092>It's a shame the journos theses days are worthless in informing people accurately.The worst part is how they all seem to be larping as writers, and have go all melodramatic. Reporters that get a voice just love to sound dramatic. The readers for national network news bits on talk radio are disgustingly over-dramatic. There's one guy, Alex Stone for ABC, that has a nasal delivery like he's in the 1940s or something.
>>15196602Donald the Dove assassinated Soleimani which led to quite a ruckus when Iran retaliated on an US base with ballistic missiles.Also attacked a Syrian airbase with cruise missiles. The first direct action against Syrian troops by the US.
>>15196623There's no funding from US army. There's some localized base buying individual starlinks to use in base under the order of some general at the base who wants high speed internet at the base.
>>15196097Musk has been making no secret of Mars as a goal. The people already invested in SpaceX are already fine with that.
>>15196631Forgot the Battle of Khasham when US forces came into direct contact with Russian PMC. Pretty peaceful to trade blows with a nuclear power directly.
>>15196638Yea its not like anyone would be surprised if SpaceX announce that 50% of Starlink profit will be used to bank Starship/Mars colony at all. Its SpaceX's primary motive/goal.
>>15196631>SoleimaniI still find that situation funny>US intelligence says the general is planning a false flag to force iranian governments hand.>US takes him out>Iran loses it's shit, iranian leaders want blood>iranian leaders then find out the false flag plot was real>everybody close to soleimani gets arrested and the iranian goverment swipes the entire thing under the rug like nothing happend. You can say a lot of bad things about US glowfags, but they are good at their job.
>>15196636>some general at the base who wants high speed internet at the base.so they can unironically shitpost on 4chan
>>15196146Well the six tankers still go up, but they've refueled the dep*t ahead of time. The mission ship doesn't go up until it's fuel is already there.>>15196164>But how is the Methane going to remain liquid?Yes, boil-off, insulation, and maybe some solar-powered active cooling on the one that stays in orbit. Nice shiny reflective steel helps too.It's not like they're trying to keep hydrogen up there, that shit be insane, yo.
>>15196652also>Iran takes out civilian plane thinking if was American missile>Dozens die at Soleimani funeral But Coronavirus quickly overshadowed this whole affair. Acutally I didn't even know Soleimani planned some false flag
>>15196114this one never fails to make me crack up
do we know anything about d*pot Starship? Will it use insulation or use ultra reflective paint to keep methane from boiling? and if they use insulation will they use the boiloff to run a engine to run a cooler?
>>15196302Remember the story about buying Manhattan island for a handful of beads? Apparently those weren't even the indians who actually "owned" it. It's merchants all the way down.
>>15196032I'm still laughing my ass off on how the narrative changed so quickly these last years and it went from "Starlink is never going to happen, musk/spacex is a fraud" to "Starlink is an essential service, SpaceX must be nationalized" just some years later.
>>15195980also Zuckerberg stole FB from the original inventor. Ediston and Tesla were showmen and conmen
>>15196688Both Bill Gates/Steve Jobs stole from Xerox. They even exchange emails when they accuse each other of stealing.
>>15196439My earliest is one from age 3, then nothing until age 5, when I happened to live a few miles from where I ended up now. I don't know which house it was because they all look so similar there, but I do know that the trees were freshly planted then, and fully grown before I got back. Everywhere I've lived since then I can find on Google satellite view, and only one place got dozed.
>>15196708Yeah having early memories if pretty common with autism. I have a friend that's a little older than me and we grew up together and I remember all kinds of stuff and he remembers nothing
>>15196545>when the lease expiresThe lease "expires" in 2050. Until then Roscosmos is paying $115M per year for the privilege of using the only crew-rated Soyuz pad and the last remaining Proton pad, and they really would rather not. Adding crew launch to Vostochny would be pretty cheap even by Russian standards, and there are that many Protons left. Baikonur could be abandoned in the next five years.
>>15196439Most people don't remember 99% of their daily activity. All they remember are 1% snapshots with generalized understanding of it.
>>151967361% snapshot is generous because its not like we're storing new information, just some small bits of new patterns are stored. The baseline information like color/shape/smell of the food have been previously stored in the brain years ago and you're merely adding bits of reinforcement to those memories. So I'd say, its not 1% but rather 0.01% or less.
>>15196573primary reason for staying at altitude was orbital velocity, not atmospheric lift
>>15196032Where was this for the past 10 to 11 months? What the difference between using a Starlink for using drones and calling in artillery?
>>15196318>he personally was humiliated by steppe zigger arrogance when he first started out with rocketrypic related>>15196652He got Rogozin'd before Rogozin
>>15196736Yeah makes sense, I probably remember stuff from when I was 2 only because I changed country at that age.
>>15196779Reminder that the Russians literally spat on Musk's shoes when he went there to buy an ICBM lmao.
Spaceflight?
>>15196807hey, I like that
Does Starship have a logo like Falcon and Dragon?
>>15195881>Why is space travel so underlooked in cyberpunk media?is it?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismatrixhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_Flowershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Worlds
>>15196128>"If you're hearing this message, I have died on the most exciting journey of my or anyone else's lifetime. I know in my heart that it was worth it, but I'd like to preempt the stories waiting to be written about our doomed mission. Ahem: FUCK the New York Times, FUCK the Washington Post, FUCK CNN, FUCK ABC, FUCK FOX, FUCK NBC, FUCK every single one of you yellow, lying, soulless scumsucking worthless muckraking heartless unlovable slimy sacks of filth that call yourselves journalists, Sam Hyde was right and I sincerely hope at least one of you commits suicide tonight. God bless America and the American people, goodnight everyone."
>>15195192
>>15195245That yacht isn't going to build itself, please understand
>>15196820They will probably apply the logo on the first operational mission.
statites when?
>>15196905At this point the closest thing to a logo is the six tiles covering the antenna ports.
>>15196793anything to back to that claim up?
>>15196913anon, please don't ask for sources, it ruins the fun.
>>15196913Jim Cantrell tells the story of how it went down. Some version are sanitized, others are not so much.
>>15196880https://vocaroo.com/17ptrE2ZpQ6R
>>15196922kek not as smooth as the Zubrin one from last week but still good, only pacing is slightly off
>>15196820I think they could just do like a stylized shorthand for "Starship"
>>15196949Well, the other service requires you to pay. This one is free locally hosted
>>15196962Yeah that'd explain it, good effort regardless anon. Is there enough audio of Victor Glover speaking to get that rant in his voice? That might be funnier than Emma.
>>15196435>It's in everyone's best interest to stop the cancer that is Russia, at all costs.
>>15196907They'll be electric sails or plasma magnet sails rather than gay photon sails
>>15196687lol true
>>15196820
Rayyanah Barnawi and Ali AlQarni selected for Ax-2
>>15197022Not very diverse. Smh my head.
>>15197022zero g sex experiements with barnawi
SPY BALLOON OVER BOCCA CHICA!!!!MUSH STATED ON TWITTER HE IS GOING TO SHOOT IT DOWN HIMSELF WITH STARSHIP!!
>>15196125>>15197046Depots?
>>15196125>>15197046>>15197088>Depots?
>>15197092The FAA permit.Delay it 6 months.
Why the fuck is Russia building Soyuz 5 when Angara is finally reaching operational capability
>>15197092Begone Richard, you have no power here
>>15197178"soyuz" 5
2 more weeks until Crew 6 launches
>>15196820If they do it should be a whale or orca
>>15197263It's Sunday, obviously everyone's at church
>>15196138hownew
>>15197280>expendable supertankerMore like perma orbital supertanker
>>15197280>top of image>Starship Heavy
>>15197283If thats the case then...
How Earth REALLY Moves Through the Galaxyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lPJ5SX5p08
>>15197296>timewarp x1000
John Zubrin will be proud of me
>>15197327
>>15197178Angara was supposed to replace all old existing soviet rockets with easy to mass produce common boosterthat way you can launch anything from from 3 to 35 tons, replacing Soyuz 2, Soyuz 2.1, Zenit, Proton and various ICBM derived lightweight launch vehiclesthen they realised they might want more than thatso they asked themselves "what is the biggest common booster we can build and move by train" and the answer is 4.1m wide, (just like Proton, little more than Zenit)naturally, that means there's a massive overlap between Soyuz-5 and AngaraI also imagine a single big core might be cheaper than 3 smaller ones
>>15197340You say that now but I'm making a predictive statement that depends on the future
>>15197280>>15197293what happend to ASS TO ASS?
>>15193421ok nigger, now whathttps://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1624839280270131200
>>15197373We dolphin-mating now
>>15197349
>>15197178Because the Angara A5 costs three times as much as the Proton-M it's supposed to be replacing, and the Soyuz-5 could launch the Orel for a fraction of that. Roscosmos has to be excessively price conscientious right now, and it needs a something that doesn't cost over $100 million per launch whenever they want to send crew to a station. Trying to run the cosmonaut program on Angara-5/Orel would be like ditching Crew Dragon for a Delta IV Heavy launched Orion. The bigger problem is that Soyuz-5 has no launch pad. They don't want to fly from Baikonur because renting that graveyard is costing them $115 million a year and they want that to stop. They can't launch from the Zenit pad at Plesetsk because that got converted over to launch the Angara, and they can't build a new pad at Vostochny because the trans-Siberian railroad can't handle objects with a diameter of more than 3.8m. That leaves they with renovating the old Sea Launch Odyssey platform, and that's been rusting out in Vladivostok for years.
>>15197380We really are going
>>15197403It seems like biting the bullet with Baikanour is the best bet desu
>>15197380
>>15197403>they can't build a new pad at Vostochny because the trans-Siberian railroad can't handle objects with a diameter of more than 3.8mDidn't know this. Kek wasn't Vostochny supposed to be the replacement for Baikonur? Should've thought about that first. And I imagine there'd be a lot of shady actions to oppose simply building the rockets near Vostochny.
>>15197437fake, real one wasn't blurry
I am trying to figure this one out, keep in mind, I am a fucking retard.They are making the fuel-only version of Starship to fuel up the Cargo/Human variants. Alright, makes total sense to far. Where you lose me is why it is going to take 8 to 10 of these things to fuel up a single Cargo/Human variant when you are presumably using up all the space within the depot variant to just carry extra fuel in the same volume would otherwise be available for cargo/humans in the other variants. Due to this being a fairly fuckin' large amount of space, why does it need so many to fuel up a variant to full that has much less space for fuel in the first place.
>>15197447fuck off mick it's real
>>15197449The Depot needs to reach orbit too so it uses up some of its onboard fuel for that and will most likely launch nearly empty so its as minimal as possible and can be stretched or supported with thicker walls maybe to prevent boil-off idk ask SpeX
>>15197403Why couldn't the russian/soviet make a launch pad on the caspian sea around dagestan ffs?
funny thing about this POS rover is it will actually discover fossil life on Mars, unlike every NASA rover to date.
>>15197449>starship propellent mass: 1200 tons>starship payload to LEO: 150 tons
payloads doors have been upgraded
>>15197439It was, but it had to be somewhere in the far east because Russia decided they wanted an east facing coastal spaceport like they were a real spacefaring nation. The Angara URM-2 is only 3.6m and the fattest a Soyuz segment gets is 2.95m, so it was just easier to not make a big deal out of it when the alternative was suggesting rebuilding every bridge and rail tunnel between Moscow and Amur. Building the rockets on-site wasn't going anywhere either, since you'd need to build up a huge amount of infrastructure from nothing and then build the city for all of the factory workers to live in, also from nothing. And, yeah, everything you build gets 150% of it's budget embezzled by someone. >>15197466https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapustin_YarRussia launched their early V-2 derived tests there, and did a lot of ballistic missile work later on, but for some reason it never took off as an orbital launch site. The Soviet's actually went looking for Baikonur because of some unsuitability about Kapustin Yar that I've never seen clearly explained.
Elon said the engine that will take humans to Mars will be nuclear.
Elon said he'd buy me a GI Joe action figure if I keep quiet about what he did to me on Epstein's island
Ayyys everywhere these days
>>15197561Which one did you choose?
>>15197587
>>15197046based, reminds me of pre-sn8 days
>>15195245It got scrapped because Russia decided to crater their economy over the invasion of Ukraine.
>>15197046Why does it have the same "heat shield" sensor things if it isnt reentering? is that the Starship logo now?
>>15195348Don't be jealous. Someday they'll name the Stupid Faggot after you.
>>15197603
>>15197603Good choice. Let’s see Paul Allen’s figure now.
>>15197612kindve a cool name. we need more ships named after/by their captains instead of thinkgroup pr niqqars. tired of the NASA inspirational names, and naming after long dead presidents
Starship Enterprise...JUST LIKE MY FAVoORITE SPACE SHOW
>>15197633Already posted
Really makes me think
>>15197654I converted to islam
>>15197659Many such cases
>Progress is also leakingholy kek
https://twitter.com/ronin19217435/status/1624807593129525249Some of the downed UFOs are being carried over to be examined
>>15197687The station is dying in realtime and there's nothing we can do about it.
>>15197695>The stationThe station's more or less fine. It's newly-produced Russian spacecraft that are the issue.
I don't do graphics design, so this is just me trying out an idea. Its probably too cluttered already, but, the stacked wording for Starship is better and the minimalism aspect is maintained.
>>15197715The alternate version of it, I think is probably more consistent with ship naming standards
>>15197700It would be a shitshack even without Russians. Its old now.
>>15197719I realized I fucked up because I'm already sharing the X across 3 different elements, so having the extra S there was a big failure.This is now more consistent. So we get:S that is shared between:1. S34 = Ship 342. S = Star3. S = Shipand4. S = SpaceX
>>15196124"A miserable little pile of secrets!"
>>15197723I mean, you're right, but that has literally nothing to do with Russian spacecraft being shit.
>>15197715STARXSSHIP
>>15197729this is awful anon
>>15197692old video, not it
>>15197756Thanks. It only took 80 billion years in paint. I'm gonna use it in my application to SpaceX as my crowning achievement.
>>15197752oh yeah, good point with the second S. I'm retarded.
>>15197654What conventions did his apartheid era dad impose on him?
>>15197766It's not that easy in graphicdesignery. Here's my proposal from a few years ago, in all its tampon-purple glory. Feel free to change the color if you want
>>15197692You retards will believe anything
>>15197781That's more like it.
>>15197781SOVL
>>15197772Stealing
>>15197777Kek I called you a faggot when you first posted it. Good times
>>15197781make a transparent background and it's perfect
>>15197777Nice digits. That's pretty good, though the words Starship in general is unnecessary with the S and the ship logos embedded; to be honest. The embedded ship shapes convey everything necessary.
>>15197781needs to be crunchier
Why not just have the silhouette of a Starship with the X logo?
>>15197807You think anyone in this thread has skills to pull off which wizardry?
>>15197807Its illegal
I think Starship should have pinup art, like WW2 bombers.
>>15197799Those were the days
What the fuck is that thing currently sitting at the launch pad? Did they forget to put tiles and wings on it? Wtf is that thing?
>>15197820It’s an HLS test vehicle. Maybe.
>>15197820Suppository for your mom
>>15197820Grain silo. Gotta feed the SpaceX wagies somehow
>another object has been shot down over lake huronthis again reminds me of the american balloons in the cold war. we stopped doing it so much because we had more and more spy satellites. china losing all these balloons means they'll have to ramp up the number of satellites they have, which means we'll see a surge in chinese launches in the next 3-10 years.
>>15197831What’s the point of so many spy satellites though? Can’t they just launch their own version of BlackSky?
>>15196173>SpaceX has hundreds page work to show how they intend on dealing with boil of problemslink?
Holy shit FOURTH F-22 kill today
>SpaceX completed the static fire on their first tryHoly shit. Remember the 2020/2021 era where they had trouble firing 3 raptors at a time?
>>15197838Twas an F15
what if China starts taking down US satellites?
>>15197844Act of war
>>15197835>>15197831I think it's more likely the causality is reversed. China is spamming balloons because the Space Force has been taking out their spysats. The reason they're trying to blame Trump is he founded the Space Force.
>>15197844we'd be hard pressed to stop them. they can launch from deep within china and we'd have limited ability to destroy those launchers. at that point we'd have to consider something drastic.
>>15197835Is their spysat game weak? Do they only get shit resolution still? Maybe flying balloons is more effective than what they've got now, who knows.
>>15197844US and Japan just updated their security treaty this year stating that if either one of their satellites are taken out purposefully, it’s an act of war and both will declare war on whoever did it
After seeing the WDR and static fire; has your opinion on the outcome of Starship OFT-1 changed?
>>15197839SpaceX has fired more than 1000+ raptors in just last year alone
>>15197853It’s funny how Japan has become America’s #1 friend Speaking of Japan, H3 maiden flight on Tuesday. Get hyped
>>15197851I bet their sats are inferior but still good enough. I’m betting this has more of an ulterior motive. Seeing how the west reacts, seeing how long they can remain undetected, seeing where the wind takes them. They’re gathering data, not necessarily trying to get aerial photographs like everyone and their mom has been able to do since the 40s
>>15197854Yeah seeing that they can't even get all their engines lit...
>>15197760Sincerely good luck anon
>>15197854Yes I believe it is now 2 weeks away
>>15197865I thought they were doing balloons for a long time and just now the US, for some reason we don't know, has started shooting them down and telling everybody about it
>>15197855Fucking HOW
i guarantee they've had bloons continuously over starbase for years
So… does Super Heavy get a giant worm for Artemis launches?
>>15197044graphic design peaked in the thirties
When this launch happened, Starship was still called BFR, and Boca Chica was just a bunch of radio antennas
>>15197839remember the 2022 era when the test launch was supposed to happen in march
>>15197864Isn't SK closer to america than Japan? Idk frankly.Australia is definitely America's bitch anyway
>>15197285It's not that easy.
>>15197886Israel is America's greatest ally
>>15197882i have such a vivid memory of that launch
>>15197874There was a video posting all the raptor fires over the last year or so from NSF, someone can find it and post it
You now remember the cryo test failure era
Thunderf00t says in his newest video that feeling matter more than facts:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3-niZ-YvsU
>>15197896No doomerposting with pops because they’d just whip up a new test a week later and it would pass the testVGH it was so cool
>>15197901>grifter made an economy out of seething 24/7LMAO
>>15197804oh god I'm time travelling
>>15197901academia seething is the best kind of seething. even noam chompsky had to make sure his shit takes were participating
>>15197901>and touch is the most expressive form of communication, the comforting touch, the connection of fingers, the expressiveness of pressure
https://twitter.com/firstpost/status/1624820261945225216>China spots UFO over its waters, authorities prepare to shoot it down"ayylmaos" on china now
>>15197886the koreans and japanese both don't like how much they rely on the US for trade and defense, but our economies supplement each other well and we have a shared hatred of the Chinese
>>15197901>20 minutes longholy shit, what a fucking grifter, doesn't this guy earn thousands of dollars just from patreon?
>>15197745>What is an Earther?
>>15197920>>15197692
>>15197930
>>15197937skepticsbros, we win again
>>15197901He is not wrong. Discovering content trough search or the algorithm will be fucked.
this UFO shit is just a distraction for schizos. Everything is about gelopolitics. There are no aliens
>>15197944content providers can charge for content. or else robots.txt. it'll be fine. the only ppl seething are those with shitty shitty content not worth paying for
Nearly 4000 Starlink sats have been launched so far.
>>15197956All required starlinks will launch before starship is operational.
>>15197944already is, have you tried using Google in the past few years? With youtube at least I'm subscribed to channels I like
>>15197937lmao what is this clown show
>>15197956>nobody cares about muh night sky anymore now that Ukraine needs starlinkastroonomers forgotten yet again, sad lmao
>>15197974No self respecting astronomer was anti starlink. The only ones who cried were ignorant amateurs
>>15197979The only ones crying were the die hard commies. Anyone reasonable were working with SpaceX with national astronomer foundations group.
>>15197945We progressed past the most risky phase that follows the invention of nukes (the cold war was rife with bizarre UFO sightings, especially on the Soviet side) and we're getting another wave of visits because of the construction of a megaconstellation and serious pursuit of space colonization.
>>15197986the real aliens are not in the skies...they are on the ground...grounliens
>>15197974Nobody cares because the only reason they cared to begin with was the WaPo fearmongering specifically worded to make it seem like they were going to be constantly visible to the naked eye. I've met a ton of people in real life who were convinced this was the case. And then they immediately forgot about it because it was just FUD.
>>15197979wronghttps://twitter.com/carolynporco/status/1336085614043664384
I swear if I'm gonna be seeing a hundred shitlinks each night in my previously pristine sky...
I want a Rocket Lab capsule so bad bros
>>15197996Are you making the case this hag has self respect?
>>15198009sus
>>15197996Why does she hate Ukraine? Is she a Putin bot?
>hurr durrr we dunno what the fuck we r doing just copy SpaceX lol
Is buying a copy of the high frontier worth it /sfg/?
New Glenn launch license status?
>>15198074Q4 2024, aka 2025.
>>15197804There's gonna be a time withing like five years when this style becomes fashionable, just like we're now in the early 2000s clothing fashion again
>>15198072Peak China
>>15198094cope
>>15197804needs to be saved as a .gif
>>15197924I guess they're not those 10.01 minute long videos that some people do, so that they can include max ads for minimal effort
>>15197920This is such a face save from China lol>send spy balloons over to North America>get caught both by the US and Canada>"guise we also shot down a UFO, those balloons totally weren't ours"
>>15197810I wanna have my own Starship and put a Krystal silhouette on it
>>15198105>>15197920Ok, but whose balloon was it this time?
>>15198112
ELON MUSK JUST TWEETED ONE OF THOSE AUTISTIC ROBLOX SPACEX RECREATION VIDEOS LMAOhttps://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1624901439956062208
>>15198097
>>15198112There probably even wasn't a balloon in China, they're just claiming there was in a vain attempt to make it seem like they weren't sending a bunch of shit overseas
>>15198126:)
>>15198072so far theyve only managed to copy powerpoints
>>15198117kek we really are going
>>15198072hahahahahahahahahhaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>15197901Eric Hoeler and Scott Bakker have been talking about this for 20 or so yearsIf Hoeler is right it’s going to suck but we will survive. If Bakker is right we are barely beginning to see the scope of the coming crisis and we will actually be totally destroyed or completely changed by it.
>>15198158This is the 10th falcon heavy clone that is definitely under active development in china
>>15198117ok maybe I spoke to harshly about elon
>>15198117Imagine being that 10 year old kid and getting a shout out from Elon Musk
>>15198170if you work in government it doesnt matter how many AI there is, it's impossible for more efficient processes to replace you (even if theyve existed for 20 years)
>>15198117wait, roblox is for autistic people?
>>15197996>2020
>>15198009I just want them to succeed in general. Doing that Venus mission is going to be so based.
>>15198194She's a fucking Encel too
>>15198126Not even this, I was talking about those old sites that use gifs without any animation
>>15198170The basic function of technology is to take a task that requires skill and intuition and turn it into a task that just requires effort. The fallacy is thinking that a mechanical task is a zero effort task. It's not. More skillful jobs have been made redundant by technology than there are left to be made redundant by AI.
>>15198203Enceladus should have preference over Europa as is is way smaller, therefore it is much easier to reach the underground water.
>>15198181You don’t understand the argument being made. Thunderfag only barely understands the issue anyway, he only understands the parts that affects his ego and pocketbook, which blinkers him.Also I got Erik Hoel confused with Eric Hoeler (ESGhound)https://erikhoel.substack.com/p/the-semantic-apocalypsehttps://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/what-is-the-semantic-apocalypse/
>31 raptor engines at 50% thrust is still enough to reach orbit crazy
>>15198217even easier to reach the underground water on...Mars. It's literally right fucking there. But it's not JPL's goal to find life
>>15198220The argument is how do you get ad revenue if you give users the actual answer instead of results and ads, right? and then kills off the sites that had the original info, bc theyre no longer needed or redirected to
>>1519822331 at full thrust is enough,not half thrust. Stop assuming BS based on Elon's offhand comments
>>15197802>>15197777This was the my proposal I shared some months ago.
>>15198226Enceladus has at least a large underground lake. What does Mars has?
>A 1-meter meteoroid has been detected and is expected to safely strike Earth's atmosphere over northern France between 3:50-4:03 CET, European space agency sayshttps://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1624910653189152771didnt we see this movie
>>15198250Any baguettes who can see this happening here?
>>15198234The argument is, essentially, that meaning is being dissolved. From Hoel’s perspective this is an issue of AI being able to cheaply, effectively and in vast amounts produce content that lacks meaning, and that this content doesn’t need to be true. Fake videos of politicians, etc etc etc. Bakkers argument, put broadly, is that this and neuroscientific developments will lead to empirical and more importantly demonstrative proof of the illusion of consciousness,will, self and meaning, and that people will not be able to cope with that and will deny it. I agree with him up to a point, but demonstrative is key. If such knowledge can’t be used to produce direct, provable, rapid and drastic changes in people in a way that provides a competitive edge it probably won’t have widespread implications of doom.I’m really simplifying their arguments, if you wanna see them in full you’ll have to read what they write. I’m skeptical of soothsaying and especially doomsaying.
>>15198236It actually IS enough to reach orbit in fully expendable mode with the fuel tanks fuelled to ~60%, which gives a TWR of ~1.2 (about the same as saturn V)And what's best, it can lift as much as the expendable falcon heavy like that, 50-60 tons.
>>15198242aliums
>>15198256I'm too far south personally.
>>15198242Many large shallow underground lakes (and only 5 months away)
>>15198250https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0wt-5lCdb4&t=39s
>>151982501 meter will burn up in atmosphere before it makes it all the way down to do any actual harm. Even a 10 meter asteroid would more than likely burn up or at best explode at high altitude that when it scatters, most of the pieces would fall outside of civilized zones. Its 100m and above that are the problems.
>>15198257Oh lol idc about the philosophical musings of pseuds. Both perspectives are retarded
>>15197990It's even worse, they are Earthers.
>>15198242>What does Mars has?
>>15198273Sure. But they pretty spot on predicted every argument about, say, AI art and CHATGPT years or even decades before it was real. I would call Bakker more of an anti-philosopher anyway.But I think not caring is the right response.
>>15198257>the illusion of consciousness
>>15198322>>15198322>>15198322New thread
>>15198258ohhh my god I love Super Heavy I swear
>>15198158Knowing the chinks are decades away from this brings me immense joy.
>>15198117WE ARE NASUR WE HAVE THE DATUR
>>15195734But we arnt nigger what is /k/ and /pol/ for.
>page 11sfg is dead