/sci/ - Science & Math

I should've put this as the OP

>>15193991

>gateway process
https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/cia/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf
>psychotronic universe
https://ink.university/static/reference/CIA-RDP96-00792R000400330013-4.pdf
>tesla electromagnetics
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA127574.pdf

>>15194070
Stop spamming this bullshit. Nobody is interested in your schizophrenic conspiracy theories.

>>>>/x/

>>15193990
I'm reading this question that you just wrote, so yes. The universe is conscious and self-aware.

>>15193990
Only in the sense that humans are part of the universe, and that humans are conscious. Other than that, no.

>>15193990
here you go

>>15193990
Uh yeah, it's called humans. You're literally the universe contemplating itself.

>>15193990
No.

Y'all fags only hate on Dennett cause he's right. Nothing mystical or special about consciousness. It is entirely materialist and physical like everything else in the universe.

>>15194518
Unknowing is mysticism. Do you know everything?

>>15193990
all artists are vain and want an audience. thats where we come in

>>15193990
Why the fuck is there a bunch of neon in a galaxy?
You know this shit makes zero sense.

>>15194518
Dennett fans have no qualia.

if humans are "the Universe experiencing itself" then why dont we know what the FUCK is going on?

>>15194552
A dog experiences being itself. Why doesn't a dog know everything about dog biology?

>>15194556
because you'd think the Universe would know what it is. we don't therefore we are not the Universe, just passive observers.

>>15194559
You are truly on the margins of sentience, if you're sentient at all. A dog experiences being itself. Why doesn't a dog know everything about dog biology?

>>15194561
How do you know he doesn't? Who else would be a better expert on being a dog than a dog himself?

>>15194564
Ok, retard.

>>15194561
because an intelligence capable of creating the Universe wouldn't need to observe itself for self validation.

>>15194581
>because an intelligence capable of ...
See? You are either a literal bot or an 80 IQ subhuman.

>>15194579
Sorry cuck, but engaging in furry pet play doesn't tell you anything about a dog's qualia. You will never know what it feels like to be a dog.

>>15194586
THE UNIVERSE HAS SPOKEN

>>15194313
>>15194505
If humans didn't exist, would the universe still be conscious?

>>15194588
You are clearly a qualialess drone incapable of basic reading comprehension, just like your subhuman buddy.

>>15194556
>I'm an expert on the thought processes of dogs
DK moment

>>15194612
Sorry about your profound mental illness.

>>15194070

Have you ever read the CIA gateway process documents?

Or was the fact that it could be downloaded from the CIA website enough for you to just assume it says what you want it to say?

>>15194615
>mental illness
There's that WEF dogwhistle again. They want to deligitimate independent thought by calling it "mental illness".

>>15194640
They want to delegitimize independent thought by funneling certified retards like you into the chan.

>>15194552
Every sentient being has limits on what it can perceive from its senses so that's why we're seemingly cut off from everything. If consciousness is not an emergent property of the brain and is immaterial, there could be ways to transcend the senses and expand perception beyond them.

>>>/lit/sffg

bump

Humans are conscious
Humans are part of the universe
The universe has consciousness
QED

>>15194488
literally who and literally who

>>15193990
Panpsychism has a 60%chance of being true according to this article.

https://nintil.com/consciousness-and-its-discontents

>What theories do I think are probably true, with probabilities, as of today:

>1. Neutral monism/Panpsychism(60%)
>2. Interactionist dualism(30%)
>3. Epiphenomenalism(10%)
>4. Idealism(~epsilon%)
>5. Non-interactionist dualism(~epsilon%)
>6. Identity theory(~0% as it rejects consciousness as real)
>7. Eliminativism(~0% as it rejects consciousness as real)

>>15198175
>These theories reject the dichotomy of mind and matter, believing the fundamental nature of reality to be neither mental nor physical; in other words it is "neutral"
This puts into words what I've been trying to explain for a while now. Consciousnesses as i experience it doesn't have much of a quality to it, it's all so innate that it seems absurd to separate it from the physical world. Nothing about it entailsthat it's special in any way. Ie when you move your hand it just moves, there's no hand moving dialogue. Suggesting our body just does things...

>>15193990
you are separate from Universe, right?

>>15199503
>t. i have no qualia

>>15195968

>>15194518
Whom is the illusion of consciousness fooling?

>>15194518
dennet is a retard

the universe is what it is faggots

>>15201647
2000 IQ insight

>>15201661
i was tested to be over 9000 aktually

>>15201666
I believe it. I apologize unreservedly.

>>15201670
no need anon, i'm not an iqfag