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>> No.15173480
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First for Gravitics

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Non-Europa french launcher project 60s, respectively S2/3 IRBM derived, M1/2 IRBM derived, Diamant derived in bundles

>> No.15173488

Inshallah static fire will happen soon

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GATEWAY
GATEWAY GATEWAAAAAAAY
I WANT GATEWAY TO BE REAL GATEWAY

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>>15173487
Supervulcain, late 60s french rocket concept
S1 was the equivalent of 8 diamants S1 bundled together (4 x 2), , second stage was a Catherine: 4 Diamant S1 together!, third stage was Coralie from Europa rocket
Performances: 5 tons to LEO, 800 kg to GTO, 363 tons mass

>> No.15173495

>>15173491
>pockocmoc
Not happening

>> No.15173498

>>15173495
GATEWAY GATEWAY GATEWAY GATEWAY
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>> No.15173506

>>15173491
Wow we can use this to reach other stars...electric rockets

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>> No.15173517

>>15173511
is any part of sls (other than the engines) actual shuttle hardware?

>> No.15173524

>>15173517
No. Only the SSMEs, AJ10s, and SRBs are common. Everything else is from scratch

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>>15173493
That's not a bad looking rocket, but I'm leery of anything that uses Nitric Acid and Turpentine as its propellant choice. There's 1960s fuel choices and then there's weird 1960s fuel choices.

It still would have been nice to have some non-international European launch vehicles. And it would have been big enough to launch Symphonie, so it could have done the job that Ariane 1 was built for.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-64499635
>Billionaire Bill Gates has said he would rather pay for vaccines than travelling to Mars, which he does not think is a good use of money.
>"It's actually quite expensive to go to Mars. You can buy measles vaccines and save lives for $1,000 (£814) per life saved," he told the BBC.
>"And so [that] just kind of grounds you, as in - don't go to Mars."
Actually Mars is stupid and we should stay on earth so poor old bill can make more money through his pharmaceutical investments :)

>> No.15173550

>>15173543
Bill Gates belongs in an acid bath

>> No.15173553

>>15172223
Requesting webms

>> No.15173558
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So long chong 9 isn't going to launch till 2035 at the earliest

Could you imagine what the next 12 years of Starship flying will look like?

Falcon 9 first launched a little over 12 years ago for reference

>> No.15173579

>>15173543
Earth needs Bill Gates the same way East Berlin needed the wall.

>> No.15173580
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Skylab B is sitting in a meuseum. Technically, could we take it, retrofit it and yeet it into space to have a small space station?

>> No.15173588

>>15173558
After 12 years will they have started working to replace Starship with something better, or working on something else that would help with Mars?

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Wtf i just found out today about Bigelowe's Genesis 1 and 2 program

I had no idea that are 2 inflatable space modules just floating around in space

>> No.15173601

>>15173580
It would be a pain in the ass why would you even want to try

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>>15173580
Yes. Just like how all the Shuttles can be brought out of retirement, fitted with engines and launched on one final mission.

>> No.15173605

>>15173538
I feel like if Europa has been a total failure that didn’t lead to LIIIS and Ariane, then a lot of the liquid propulsion industry would have disappeared with the oil crash crisis, then there would be a decade+ long bad patch where the only launcher would be France Having to do shitty Missile-derived launchers to keep access to space at a low cost.

Maybe with 80s prosperity and European integration there would eventually be some medium launcher, probably kinda similar to the PSLV, but then the USSr would fall and cheap Russian rocket (commercialised by Americans) would flood Western Europe without any coordinated or capable answer to them

>> No.15173611

>According to a recent filing with the US Federal Communication Commission (FCC), True Anomaly is now gearing up for its first orbital mission. In October, True Anomaly hopes to launch two Jackal “orbital pursuit” spacecraft aboard a SpaceX rocket to low earth orbit. The Jackals will not house guns, warheads, or laser blasters, but they will be capable of rendezvous proximity operations (RPO)—the ability to maneuver close to other satellites and train a battery of sensors upon them. This could reveal their rivals’ surveillance and weapons systems or help intercept communications.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/enter-the-hunter-satellites-preparing-for-space-war/

commercial spy sats now? wtf

>> No.15173613

>>15173472
me when I jerk my dick, hahaha.

>> No.15173614

>>15173538
There’s nothing stopping europe from developing an RD-275ish type hypergolic engine with 1,500 kN of thrust. You could cluster 19 of these on a 7.5m diameter rocket and have something ~85% as powerful as an S-IC in terms of thrust
Reasonable now? Probably not now that reusable methalox seems to be the future. Possible in the 70s/80s? Yes

>> No.15173627

>>15173605
The 1980s would have been a nightmare for the satellite manufacturers without Ariane. Delta and Atlas would still have been forced into early retirement and EVERYONE would have had no choice but to wait for a ride on the shuttle. NASA would have pushed their launch rate even harder than they did and then everything would have gone straight to hell after the first orbiter RUDed. Or we might have seen other western countries pull away from America in space because the west has no rockets and the USSR was more than happy to launch other people's payloads, especially if oil prices were in the toilet at the time.

>> No.15173638

>>15173611
>commercial spy sats
Not really, but arguably more significant. Literal private militarization of space, which is exceptionally based.

>> No.15173639

>>15173588
Ion ships going back and forth between Mars, with Starships being just dropships transporting things from surface to orbit

>> No.15173649

>>15173517
>>15173524
Some of the booster segments from STS-1 flew on the Ares I-X test flight.

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OUR TIME GROWS NEAR AIRSHIPCHADS

>> No.15173657

>>15173627
The whole commercial satellite and satellite TV/com industry would have suffered from it, so that even it the Soviets offered their launchers they wouldn’t have more success than Arianespace had In absolute terms

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https://spacenews.com/isro-completes-investigation-into-sslv-launch-failure/

ISRO's completed their investigation into the SSLV failure last October. tl;dr, an unexpectedly intense vibration during second stage separation made it seem that the rocket's inertial navigation system had broken, after which the rocket attempted to get the payload the rest of the way into orbit partially blind. The kick stage decided not to play along with this silliness and didn't ignite. The issue has been corrected and the next SSLV launch is penciled in for NET February 9th.

>> No.15173668

https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/lucy-mission-has-new-asteroid-to-fly-by/
>The Southwest Research Institute announced this week that NASA’s Lucy mission will make a close flyby pass near a main belt asteroid later this year. The rendezvous just outside of the orbit of Mars will give the team a chance to put the spacecraft’s asteroid-tracking navigation system to the test.
>At 700 meters (2,000 feet) across, Dinkinesh will be the smallest main-belt asteroid seen up close. It's a stony, S-type asteroid orbits the Sun once every 3.24 years. Its size is akin to 500-meter, near-Earth asteroid Bennu, which NASA’s Osiris-Rex mission left in 2021 following a long orbital stay and sample collection.
>Lucy's flyby will occur on November 1, 2023.
Lucy bros, we will be eating good this year.

>> No.15173670

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1621337810190958593

ARE YOU STOKED

I AM

#HASTAG STOKED!!!

>> No.15173675

>>15173670
I am mildly enstokened.

>> No.15173714

>>15173670
The way Stoke runs their media, I'm expecting the most vapid 56 minutes of content imaginable

>> No.15173726

>>15173714
Anon is not stoked

>> No.15173737

>>15173611
Is the name a reference to the Jackal fighters from Infinite Warfare?

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Very simple space history talk from the BBC last week but still worth a cheeky watch if anyone's bored.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8PmJTgb6tw

>> No.15173740

>>15173543
Isn't Bill Gates heavily invested in Stoke Space? Sounds like sour grapes to me.

>> No.15173741

https://www.popsci.com/technology/darpa-project-daedalus-satellites/

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>weather balloon

>> No.15173782

>>15173472
so what is taking so long for the superheavy test flight? seemed like it was rapidly developing with the starship belly flop tests and then suddenly everything came to a halt. Fed pressure of not giving them the (EPA) flight clearance so that the Senate Launch System could finally get off the ground and not be presented as a complete failure in public perception?

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The Japanese are building a space station

https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000036.000051518.html

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>>15173788

>> No.15173795

>>15173788
>>15173790
How are they going to get there? Develop their own crew vehicle or just buy flights from foreigners?

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Is there any real concrete plan to build that movie production module for the Axiom section of the ISS?

>> No.15173802

>>15173795
Probably buy flights. Its a commercial station, nothing by JAXA but the Japanese might want to look at a crew vehicle for greater access and control over their space infrastructure

>> No.15173804

>>15173782
Next step is a full 33 engine static fire, and then an orbital launch attempt. I don't think they'll do any superheavy test flights since a successful test flight would be almost as hard as a successful orbital launch. I have no idea what the specific issues are preventing them from doing the test yesterday, but they're really close; I would say 50/50 on it happening within a week and 80/20 on sometime this month.

>> No.15173817

>>15173796
Sierra LIFE hab maybe

>> No.15173821

>>15173804
the ceo was definitely appealing to feds to please speed up with that environmental review bullshit. Pure speculation on my part but the suspicious timing of the bureaucrats finally clearing the review and SLS finally getting its ass off the ground. Would make sense of having behind the scenes pressure to stop a private corporation from embarrasing a absolute behemoth of a gov space program.

Otherwise given with how they have a engineers mindset when it came to testing starship bellyflops (rapid RUDs until they stop), then it would make sense to test out the earlier super heavy prototypes complete with starship mounts. Even if they fail you still get valuable feedback what needs correcting.

>> No.15173826

>>15173802
I still find funny that India is going to have their own crew vehicle before both Japan and Europe get one.

>> No.15173832

>>15173826
*before Japan and Europe cared for one
let’s be fair here

>> No.15173837

>>15173832
Yes because Europe is incredibly busy being utterly useless

>> No.15173844

>>15173796
Astronauts are stored in the BALLS

>> No.15173847

>>15173532
It's the balloon holding up the ISS

>> No.15173848

>>15173844
Astronuts

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>>15173837
Well ESA had ATV man rated, and JAXA had fuji on the table (and could have probably easily done a crewed HTV if they wanted to)
There just wasn’t a need for it from JAXA’s perspective. I don’t know why ESA scrapped astronauts in an ATV to be honest

>> No.15173850

>>15173795
By 2030 there'll be Crew Dragon, Dreamchaser 2, maybe Starliner, possibly Nyx, and potentially a Rocket Lab capsule to chose from, and that's just in the west. Soyuz will still be around (if anyone is willing to work with Russia) and there's a chance Orel will be flying. Gaganyaan should be operational although what it's going to be doing is unclear. China will have their next-gen capsule online, although they're even less of an option than Russia is.

There's going to be an absurd number of crewed spacecraft in a few years. Japan's had ideas for a crew vehicle in the past but with so many competing options it's hard to make an argument for spending the R&D funds.

>> No.15173897

>>15173849
Money. ATV was killed after only four (five?) flights.

>> No.15173899

>>15173638
>Literal private militarization of space
I'm genuinely so excited to be alive at just the right time to be a part of this.

>> No.15173904

>>15173850
It’s probably a no brainet that Starliner gets certified to fly on Vulcan but it’s still wild to me that there will only be one flight per year until 2029

>> No.15173912

>>15173904
Really? Dreamliner cadence will be that low?

What the fuck Boeing. I wonder what things will be like when the commercial stations go online

>> No.15173916

>>15173912
Yep. They’re certified to fly on Atlas V and there’s 6 operational missions until 2029.

2024; 2025; 2026; 2027;2028; 2029

>> No.15173917

>>15173850
>jeets get into space before europe
lmao

>> No.15173925

>>15173788
>>15173790
I hope they never abandon this mecha-fantasy design of theirs. Its what they do best. Sleek, sexy, and functionally capable.

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Didn't know Japan was planning 7 H3 launches this year, alongside 2 H2 launches

That would mark 10 launches from Japan this year

Last year Japan only launched 1 rocket

>> No.15173945

>>15173917
Maybe. Gagayan's had more a few delays, and is currently NET 2024 for launching crew. It's (maybe) 2024 OFT was originally planned for 2013. Nyx wants to fly a subscale test this year, a half size test next year, do a full size free flight test in 2026 and a cargo run to the station in 2027. Crew Nyx is at an indeterminate point after that. Both sides are a bit overly ambitious, but Exploration Company seems oddly competent for a European operation and I can never undersell India's ability to slow walk an ambitious project.

>>15173927
There's no way they make that. Most rockets only fly once or twice in their first year. H3 should be able to hit those kind of numbers once the production line hits a comfortable rhythm but it's going to be a few years before that happens.

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Meteorite just chilling on the surface of mars

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>> No.15174043

>>15174029
It’s so crazy how much residual junk is still getting thrown out of those SRBs when they’re jettisoned. I’ve noticed this in shuttle footage but this is a really good look at it up close

>> No.15174047

>>15174030
I will say that NASA is so good with perfect operations.

>> No.15174050

>>15174030
What’s the point of that big ol’ light on the rear end? I guess it’s just to light up the interstage so the engineers can inspect it when reviewing the footage? I have no idea

>> No.15174054

>>15174024
>All the chaos, bright lights and shit coming off the rocket
>SRB separation
>Silence as the rocket points towards the Moon
Kino

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6+ years of blackpills and I HATE SLS memes leaving my body the day the rotten beast actually flew flawlessly

>> No.15174062

>anthony fantano finally admits he has spent less time on ME0cO and more on his gay alcoholic show
the truth comes out. dispicable man

>> No.15174064

>>15174058
No one can deny that SLS is beautiful

>> No.15174069

>>15174058
sls kinda mogged starship and it was the final straw that killed the camel. the camel is dead (the camel is sfg)

>> No.15174072

>>15174058
Okay nevermind the temporary euphoria wore off. I still hate it. No super heavy lift rocket needs to be more than $250 million USD these days it’s just ridiculous how much it costs to launch and how slow it takes to build a single rocket

>> No.15174098

What is the point of spy sattelites when you can just use weather balloons?

>> No.15174115

sfg is deadn't

>> No.15174117

>>15174058
I was greatly saddened by the fact that it didn't blow up

>> No.15174121

100% non-reusable

>> No.15174123

>>15174058
I still can't believe SLS ended up flying first, and flawlessly, and Starship STILL hasn't launched to this day wtf. It's like the total opposite of what should have happened. Oldspace laughing at newspace, Musk, SpaceX, and all of us. Turns out it wasn't that easy in rocketry?

>> No.15174184

>>15174123
>Turns out it wasn't that easy in rocketry?
Recall that this quote was about Falcon Heavy. SLS won the race to orbit against the rocket that's the successor to the one it was supposed to beat.

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>>15173975
high resolution crop from https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52659190652_f49fcdbc8c_6k.jpg via http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=8695&view=findpost&p=259696

>> No.15174215

>>15173849
>I don’t know why ESA scrapped astronauts in an ATV to be honest
Ariane 5 was really expensive and kind of overbuilt for to getting 3 astronauts to ISS

>> No.15174230

Will Copenhagen Suborbitals do anything, eventually?

>> No.15174244

>>15174230
>Suborbitals

So no, it won't

>> No.15174292

>>15173638
it's more like private investigator kind of a company though i could see them picking up business in the commercial sector too. im sure alot of companies might be interested in having inspection capabilities to see what's up with their satellites since they sometimes malfunction.

>> No.15174308

>>15174123
There should be multiple Starships launching before the next SLS even if it's not as many as there should have been.

>> No.15174316

>>15174308
FAA literally cucked them to only being able to fly like 5 Super Heavys per YEAR. Including failed attempts. Until they request for more at least, which will happen

It's going to be so funny watching them ship over these giant steel buildings over to their government-supported launch site in Florida because of how retarded the government is being with them

>> No.15174327

>>15174316
5 per year is only going to matter once they get them ready to test fast enough.

>> No.15174371

>>15174123
Good bait. SLS is doing nothing new or interesting. It should be easier to build and launch compared to SS.

>> No.15174379

>>15174123
Since SLS is built from leftover shuttle parts, there's a hard limit to how many can ever be built.

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>>15174064
it looks like it's made from dogshit
>>15174117
same

>> No.15174384

>>15173472
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin
The time for average plebs to be shot in space is over. Now it's all just rich dudes with premiums.

>> No.15174385

>>15174185
Shouldn't a meteorite this size make a ditch, it is just sitting there like that.

>> No.15174386

>>15172590
>It proved that TRAPPIST planets have no atmospheres
No it didn't. There is a conference proceeding saying that some extreme atmospheres are ruled out for one of the planets, but no one is claiming this.

>> No.15174392

>>15174379
Have you considered spending billions restarting production of said parts?

>> No.15174407

>>15174386
red dwarf planets are DEAD DEAD DEAD you stupid fucking nigger

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>> No.15174418

>>15174407
>Muh flares
New research indicates that red dwarfs mainly expel their flares from the polar regions, away from the planets
You're not getting out of the Fermi Paradox that easily.

>> No.15174420

Space is so dumb big. We could stripmine Mercury and build enough Star Destroyers to outgun the Galactic Empire and it wouldn’t put a dent in it, and there’s probably like a quadrillion rocks like mercury in the galaxy

>> No.15174423

>>15174418
The “Fermi Paradox” is pop science BS

>> No.15174424

>>15174407
we don't know that

>> No.15174426

>>15174407
And who revealed this information to you? viXra? Remote viewers on /x/? Jesus?

>> No.15174429

>>15174407
But Trappist-1 isn't a red dwarf silly, it's an ultra-cool sub-dwarf

>> No.15174434

>>15174420
The limits on speed to travel through it are too slow.

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>Chinese attempt to launch a miniature ISS under a balloon

>> No.15174439

>>15174438
How big is it?

>> No.15174442

>>15174434
Just get faster lol

>> No.15174443

>>15174429
It's not a sub dwarf. M8V.

>> No.15174490
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>>15174418
>New research indicates that
Watch this cope get rekt in the coming years

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>>15174423

>> No.15174502
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>>15174490
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2108.01917.pdf
Rare-earth schizos are becoming increasingly delusional when confronted with proof that red dwarfs are perfectly pleasant stars to orbit.

>> No.15174503

>>15174423
This. The Paradox disappears if you simply ignore it.
Just stop thinking about aliens.

>> No.15174505

Imagine simping for starlets
Couldn't be me.

>> No.15174508

There's an thread right now about fermi poopydox

>>15167943

Nobody can explain why advanced aliens HAVE to build dyson sphere. It's a made up paradox.

>> No.15174510

>>15174503
The Paradox never existed to be able to disappear in the first place, retard. It’s literal nonsense because not all of the values of the Drake Equation are known nor should we expect to see visible evidence of aliens even if they were relatively common.

>> No.15174511

>>15174508
Game Theory proves that if you don't build a Dyson Sphere, someone else will and will blast you with the focused light of their star. You can't allow a Dyson Sphere gap to emerge.

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>>15174505
What's the cutoff point for starlets? Below K5V?

>> No.15174515

>>15174508
I have a new schizo theory. Brown dwarves are simulated by advanced Dyson spheres that conceal a main normal star.

>> No.15174540

>>15174508
OP is missing another problem. The radio waves we've produced just fade into the background noise in a short distance. You'd need planet-destroying energy to send an intergalactic signal.

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Any love for pre-KH-11 US spy sats?
There's just something about their mechanism that's strangely appealing + the CORONA's basically kept Thor-Agena alive for much longer than it needed to be.

>> No.15174562

>>15174058
It was supposed to beat FH to orbit. It was half a decade late.

It needs a new, larger tower for the actual Artemis program, not the pointless proof of work launches. That tower? All the funds for it ($1 billion dollars) were taken by the company meant to have completed it two years ago and spent on "R&D". The tower doesn't exist. The OIG report doubts it ever will. NASA still gave the same construction firm another billion dollars.

Don't ever stop being mad. They killed F1b. They killed Constellation. They built a literal tranny rocket to nowhere.

>> No.15174564

>>15173543
Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

>> No.15174568

>>15174327
they already have. The prototypes keep getting sent back to the hangars to be dismantled since they keep piling up in the yard. It is definitely the fed agencies that keep throwing up road blocks in front of them. Specially after the ruling party switched to the not so friendly one

>> No.15174570

>>15174418
tidal locks are a death sentence to a stable atmosphere

>> No.15174571

>>15174540
this is the biggest thing

we couldn't even detect earth's routine radio signals if it were right next door, apart from some freak nonrepeating signals

>> No.15174596

>>15174513
Below solar mass. Don't insult my star ever again.

>> No.15174609

>>15174540
Narrowband signals can travel pretty far, but you wouldn’t pick those up unless you were the intended receiver.

We’ve actually seen a few of those from outer space.

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>>15174571
Wtf Carl Sagan lied to me

>> No.15174622

>>15174609
>We’ve actually seen a few of those from outer space.
Lmao
Bullshit
>Muh Wow! Signal
Nothing but an instrumentation glitch

>> No.15174626

>>15174407
If there are no atmospheres then why did JWST perform spectra in december? The data just hasn't been released yet due to the exclusivity period

>> No.15174655

>>15174626
If there was any data it would have leaked. Guarantee they found them to be completely airless rocks.

>> No.15174695

>>15174540
We can use the sun as a giant radio amplification as well, there's theories on his to do it such that we can send signals with great quality

>> No.15174705

>>15174655
>it would have leaked.
Baseless assertion. The transit spectroscopy ERS program took months to go public, and that was one easy target. People are taking their time learning a new instrument and new systematics. The main program isn't even fully observed.

>> No.15174713

>be Hubble
>in space for decades
>literally nothing has ever hit its mirror despite being near a very busy orbit
>be JWST
>sent far as fuck away to minimize impacts and interference
>mirrors hit a shitload of times already despite only being in space for a year

Lmao

>> No.15174717

>>15174713
Hubble has a tube shape that minimizes what can hit it. JUST has its mirrors open to space so it can get hit from fucking everywhere.

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>>15174705
> defending astroonomers

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>>15174713
>>15174717
This is what Hubble's ass looks like. If you think the mirror just miraculously never got hit you are delusional. A little tube isn't going to save it either. The reason they were never reported is that Hubble doesn't have the wavefront sensing mode that JWST needs for alignment. There is no way to detect damage, but it almost certainly happened. Debris in LEO is much worse.

>> No.15174738

>>15174717
The tube isn't gonna stop 1000km/s pebble impacts.. anon kun..

>>15174713
Hubble is in safe orbit. They sent jwst to fafo at naturally dirty orbit.

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>>15174717
they could have built a Whipple shield toob to protect the optics but muh mass limits

>> No.15174743

>>15174740
>Even more origami shit

Could you imagine?

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>>15174738
>1000km/s pebble impacts
interplanetary impact speeds are over an order of magnitude below that faggit

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>>15174743
that's why they should be assembled in orbit by astronauts and sailed out to L2 by electric drives

>> No.15174756

>>15174740
Even better, they could have left it in the cleanroom where it would never get scratched. It's an expendable tool with a finite lifetime. At the current rate of impacts it will still be well within the design requirements even after 20 years. Simply limiting pointing along the Ecliptic has cut the rate in half.

>> No.15174782

do we think the resurgence of balloons will reduce satellite demand? i remember google wanting to create a global swarm of internet balloons. it could be a cheap alternative to megaconstellations.

>> No.15174785

>>15174782
No

>> No.15174797

>>15174554
absolutely dabs on soviet first arguments

>> No.15174803

>>15174050
It's just so they can get a look at things in case everything goes wrong.

>> No.15174819

>>15174744
I disbelief you.

>> No.15174826

What happened to Relativity? Did they get spooked by recent launch failures?

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https://spacenews.com/european-startup-gets-44-million-for-space-station-transportation-vehicles/

>> No.15174836

>>15174826
Didn't their pad explode?

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>>15174826
2 more weeks

>> No.15174840

>>15174828
>nix; /niks/; informal; verb; put to an end, cancelled

>> No.15174845

>>15174385
Depends on whether it impacted before or after Mars' oceans dried up.

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> chinks send balloons over the US
> Americans go nuts
> demand they get shot down
> they're up at 100,000 ft
> well above the ceiling of fighters
> can't use aircraft cannons
> standard a2a missiles won't cut it
> have to use fucking THAADs or SM-3s on them
> US depletes its very expensive missile stocks shooting down $20,000 balloons

>> No.15174869

>>15174840
itsover

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>>15174860
Why did you post the edited picture, bug?

>> No.15174885

>>15174860
>> well above the ceiling of fighters
You can reach that high with a zoom climb.
You wouldn't need to, though, the missiles can reach that high.

>> No.15174887

>>15174875
Kind of random but why are there SO MANY damn photos of xi jingping with wine lmao

>> No.15174893

>>15174885
can they target the balloon though? there's very little metal in it and zero thermal signature

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>>15174893
Just laze it bro

>> No.15174900

>>15174893
Didn't it have a radio of some sort? If it's transmitting they can target that.
There's also manual aiming.

>> No.15174904

>>15174899
me getting hit by a single bullet in war thunder

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>>15174899

>> No.15174913
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>>15174438
>I’m from Montana and I say SHOOT IT DOWN

>> No.15174916

>>15174860
>when you discover an espionage system used by an adversary
>you shoot it down instead of learning what its doing
I'm glad you're nowhere near any leadership position, in government or military.

>> No.15174918

>>15174893
>Zero thermal signature

You're a retard.

>> No.15174924

https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/when-will-united-launch-alliances-vulcan-rocket-fly/
>With much work left to do before the heavy-lift rocket takes flight from Cape Canaveral, Florida, a reasonable target for a no-earlier launch date is May 2023.

Oof.

>> No.15174928

>>15174924
I hope the BE-4s give us a spectacular FUBAR event

>> No.15174931

https://twitter.com/FelixSchlang/status/1621538565401317376

Water Deluge system spotted at port of Brownsville

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>>15174931

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https://vocaroo.com/1aK2iRO6pCIl

Consider the following

>> No.15174976

>>15174916
>you leave it alone and speculah what it might be doing
>instead of capturing it

>> No.15174980

>>15174931
>>15174938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
Tracking live

>> No.15174997

>>15174976
it's not going anywhere fast lol

>> No.15175000

>>15174976
good luck capturing a hot air balloon that's been confirmed to be 3x the size of a school bus at such a high altitude.

>> No.15175003

>>15174513
>SpaceX receiving money streams via GCU from the Vanguard Foundation
I fucking wish
BTW, if the Culture is reading this, please abduct me

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>>15174513
>Chrysler SERV

>> No.15175025

>>15174931
Apparently deluge isn’t needed for launch one, but will in the future

>> No.15175032

>>15175025
It may be needed, we'll see after the full static fire.

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>>15174752
>Pic
Is VTVL the natural evolution of rockets? Flyback boosters are cool but have a huge mass penalty. I feel like even if SpaceX never happened, SOMEONE would develop a vertical landing rocket

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What’s the most realistic but non-Doomer space alternate history you can think of

>> No.15175056
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I tried to become a pilot and got turned down because I wear glasses so now I’m a pre med in Uni. How do I fucking cope?

Also, how different would history be if Big Gemini/Apollo and Titan were flown instead of the shuttle

>> No.15175057

>>15175041
The soviets have their shit together and the space race continues beyond flags and footprints on the moon

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>>15174918
what would the heat source be then?

>> No.15175060

>Red Oxygen
>As the pressure of oxygen at room temperature is increased through 10 GPa, it undergoes a dramatic phase transition to a different allotrope. Its volume decreases significantly, and it changes color from blue to deep red.
>Liquid oxygen is already used as a rocket fuel, and it has been speculated that red oxygen could make an even better fuel, because of its higher energy density.
To my knowledge, Starship tanks run at 6 bar but have been tested and held at 8.5 bar (or 0.00085 GPa)

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>>15175060
Oxozone rockets when

>> No.15175075

>>15175060
red oxygen and metallic hydrogen are on the same level of plausibility as vacuum airship and space elevator

>> No.15175084 [DELETED] 

>>15175068
>O4 storage conditions: usual liquid
Pretty confident data considering the fact that it’s about as real as metallic hydrogen

>> No.15175122

>>15175000
retard moment. you poke a hole in the balloon and then pick it off the ground.

>> No.15175131

https://youtu.be/nCSWt2gOxq4
>raptor swapping already
>before it even static fires
HONK HONK

>> No.15175148

>>15175075
Vacuustats are based and I'll hear no besmirching of their name

>> No.15175166

>>15175131
The newer raptors have had way more testing done it makes sense to switch them

>> No.15175177

>static fire
>swap raptors
>static fire
>swap raptors
>...

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>>15175148
post your vacuum filled balloon

>> No.15175214

>>15174916
If you kill your enemies, they win.
Very glad people like you are in charge, anon.

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>>15175131
>>15175177
Enginelets seething

>> No.15175238

>>15175214
>Retarded /pol/-ism
You just proved his point. Obviously the military wants to study the object, then capture it intact so they can study what it was collecting and where it was transmitting to. That's a lot better then just unga-bunga smashing.

>> No.15175264

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1621551590443212800


Neat engine trick to boost efficiency of the engine, but also keep the heatshields cool on re-entry

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>>15174913
Astra's Chris Kemp is from Montana?

>> No.15175283

>>15175238
>then capture it intact
guarantee this will not happen

>> No.15175307

>>15175283
source?

>> No.15175316

>>15175307
It was made in china

>> No.15175318
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It takes a balloon to catch a balloon

>> No.15175326
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>Leave the balloon to me

>> No.15175329

>>15175318
unironically kino

>> No.15175340

>>15175058
The balloon, you spanner. It would need to radiate all of the heat from the sun reflecting off of it. You don't get to magically not reflect heat at those altitudes.

>> No.15175351

>>15175340
Wrap it in tinfoil

>> No.15175353

>>15173495
the poscosmos contribution is just a multi docking module, just get esa or jaxa to do it instead.
Or hell, bring the chinese on board.

>> No.15175355

>>15175353
UAE is doing it now

>> No.15175359

>>15175353
I’m not against the idea of a chynease gateway airlock. It was originally going to be a shitty soviet design anyways, they could probably manufacture the exact same thing.

>> No.15175364

>>15174562
corruption is the great evil holding back humanity.
Corrupt politicians should be tried for treason, companies that take money for projects and just pocket it should be dismantled and the suits charged for theft.

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Now that's based.

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>>15175041
>burger and bongs contain their seethe and DONT bail out the failing beast of the east during WW2 Barbarossa
>focus war material on their own armies instead
>germans end up slaughtering their way through the east
>tl/dr: normandy goes as it did, western euro ends up as a front, stabilized with german reinforcements coming from the defeated east where new borders are from Arkhangelsk to Astrakhan per the Volga river bank
>Front comes to a standstill, eventually freezes as new borders
>new cold war with the Reich taking the place of the USSR, massive arms and technical build up
>new space race between USA and Reich germany, germans get the one up with first man in orbit, burgers race past with first man on the moon, germans quickly catch up with their own moon landing
>new ultimate goal of both parties is first man on mars with Apollo tier programs on both sides building up mars fleet
>reusable rockets tier advancements towards industrial space present by the 80s, shortly before the Reichs collapse USSR style in the 90s/early 00s
>the baltic sea and eastern europe are littered with used german rocket stages launched from the spaceport Peenemünde

>> No.15175385

>>15175376
scrubbing to 2025 soon!

>> No.15175386

>>15175307
There is no way to do that within the timeframe and budget allocated for it.

>> No.15175388

>>15175382
>>>/k/

>> No.15175392

>>15175388
But this is not a /k/ related topic.

>> No.15175393

>>15175382
Nah best would be three way Cold War, Soviets had too many great minds, too many Liquid propulsion Advances in the 30s to dismiss
Also your scenario only works without Manhattan project, otherwise the American just nuke Germany out of existence instead of making peace, and without or with delayed nukes then Ballistic missiles R&D will get less funding

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>>15175382
>reusable rockets tier advancements towards industrial space present by the 80s
they had all that tech in the 1980s, space tech was more advanced back then than it is now. hst was built in half the time it took to put together jwst and at a much lower cost, both telescopes have nearly identical optical resolution. in face, hst was built in less than a third the time it took to build jwst, nasa caused a 4 year delay because they hadn't built the software they needed to operate hst, the observatory itself was ready and waiting. progress in all fields came to a crashing halt starting in the early 1970s and so far it shows no signs of recovering. the past half of a century has been nothing but a clown show

>> No.15175403

>>15175318
WHY ARENT WE FUNDING THIS

>> No.15175411

>>15175403
The westerner has lost the desire to explore
The easterner can only make something if the westerner has done it first

>> No.15175438
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>$125 million per launch in 1999 dollars
>4 tons to GTO
Jesus

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>>15175438

>> No.15175444
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>>15175438
>>15175441
It gets worse.

Ariane 4 44L
>5 tons to GTO
>$125 million per launch (2000)
>$200 million per launch today

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>>15175441
What?

>> No.15175451
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>>15175444
>>15175438
Atlas II

>2.8 tons to GTO
>$85 million per launch (1994)
>$170 million per launch today

Fucking Atlas V is cheaper (4.7-9 tons to GTO/$109-153 million per launch)

>> No.15175453

>>15175445
HYPER
INFLATION

>> No.15175462
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>>15173491
Why does it still look like a pile of garbage? We’ve built deep sea vehicles that looks better than this hunk of tin foil bullshit and I want to see progress. I want to look at it and FEEL like we’re actually advancing in space, but instead it’s 2023 and we are stuck looking at the same tin cans we were looking at in the 60’s. How are people actually inspired by this? Hunks of garbage hurled into space year after year.

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>>15175453
I know that is inflation but holy fucking shit on a wheel that is almost double.

>> No.15175475

>>15175451
>Atlas V is cheaper
That was the idea. Atlas IIAS has two ground-lit Castor-4s, two air-started Castor-4s, and a tail that falls off taking 2/3rds of the engines with it before you even get to the Centaur. Simplifying that all down to just two engines and one staging event made for a massively cheaper rocket.

>>15175438
Part of the problem was the Titan II going from mass-produced to bespoke. While the ICBM line was running the costs weren't that bad for the time. Looked great either way.

>> No.15175477
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Titan IV
>17 tons to LEO
>$400 million per launch (1985)
>$800 million per launch today
>800 million!!!!
Fucking Delta IV is half the price at almost twice the capability

>> No.15175480

>>15175393
>Soviets had too many great minds
Let's say that most of them flee to the US, with some being captured by Germany. Essentially taking the role of German scientists in irl timeline.

You're probably right that it would have ended in a nuclear war. It only really makes sense if Germany develops their own nukes and, after multiple European cities being demolished, both sides agree to an armistice to avoid complete annihilation. Since it's alt-history already you could just add a stipulation that Germany had a more successful nuclear program of their own.

>> No.15175525

>>15175474
Welcome to fiat currency, its going to get much, much worse since all current fiat currencies are entering the end phase. The debt bubble has grown to unreal proportions, they can't raise rates much more without crushing everything so the printing will resume in a year or two and then we get to enjoy $50+ bread.

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>>15175474
Yep.

>> No.15175532

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJN5vUYd4s0

Lex with Tim Dodd

>> No.15175540

>>15174385
Damn didn't even think of this

>> No.15175543
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15175543

Glowies really took the effort to track is with spy satellites all the way from China to the US just so they can rub in in China's face before the whole world.

>> No.15175546

>>15175543
>effort
lol.

>> No.15175553

>>15175477
Yeah Titan remained pretty damn expensive, but it’s not like you had any other choice. Plus it looks cool as fuck

>> No.15175561
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>> No.15175568

>>15175543
>model

anon that's an estimate based on winds

>> No.15175572

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1621617352369442820

black rocket man expresses thoughts on water deluge system

>> No.15175575

>>15175568
doesn't the balloon have a steerable fan? could just go wherever with those big solar panels

>> No.15175579

>>15175572
>if it was any more water it would be called your mom
Kinda rude.

>> No.15175612

>>15175441
>1 silver Oz 1999 $5 today around $30
Really makes you think

>> No.15175622

>>15175612
Reminder that Starship WILL be used to transport vast gold reserves to the Moon

>> No.15175639

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLFYkm_-kHM

>> No.15175646

>>15175561
Why does Vinci have such a small bell?

>> No.15175655
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15175655

>>15175543
>the USAs air defense system completely destroyed by a balloon
In all seriousness if this was an actual spy balloon it would have been shot down long before it got above the US and no one would have heard about it

>> No.15175663

>>15175639
>glistening red face
kek

>> No.15175664

>>15175646
this way it can never thrust the innacurate

>> No.15175667

>>15175655
meds

>> No.15175684

>>15174423
>>15174503
>>15174510
The Fermi Paradox is literally just the question of why we haven't seen any sign of alien life when the universe is as big as it is. Saying that it doesn't exist is nonsense.

>> No.15175685
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>> No.15175690

>>15175684
>when the universe is as big as it is
that literally doesn't matter. it only matters how dense it is and ours is extremely sparse.
closest star is so far away that we couldn't detect ourselves there.
us not seeing aliens is proof of nothing except that FTL is impossible.

>> No.15175698

>>15175690
It doesn’t “prove” anything, so what you said is also wrong

>> No.15175704

>>15174423
>anything I don't like is pop science bs

>> No.15175707

>>15175698
>coping warp drive schizo

>> No.15175712
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15175712

>>15174908
you're too late Bozo.

>> No.15175713

>>15175690
So your assumption is that there are plenty of aliens but there's just no way for them to detect one another? You're basing this on what exactly?
>us not seeing aliens is proof of nothing except that FTL is impossible.
You have a very generous definition of what constitutes proof.

>> No.15175714

>>15175264
Can't wait to see what SpaceX talent sans Musk can accomplish.

>> No.15175715

>>15175714
kek

>> No.15175719

>>15175685
Is there an image like this but for the shuttles?

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>>15173472

>> No.15175725

>>15174510
idk anon, if I were in charge of an alien civilization I'd start sending Von Neuman style scout probes everywhere just out of curiosity. doesn't that cause a ridiculous amount of scout probes to be around in a relatively short amount of time? This is even if we limit those probes to sublight speeds.

>> No.15175746

>>15175721
Those faces kek what shit

>> No.15175747

If aliens exist then we'd see evidence of them. The only situations in which aliens exist and we don't see evidence of them are ones that have absurd assumptions or artificial limitations. Things like us already being near the absolute limits of the technology that can exist in the real world, all intelligent life being at virtually the same level of technological development, or all intelligent life deciding to hide its presence, just to name a few.
The only exception to this is intelligent life being so astronomically rare that there's only one civilization every few billion lightyears.

>> No.15175748
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>>15175721

>> No.15175764
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15175764

Leave the balloon to us

>> No.15175781
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15175781

Why come we don't fly airplanes into space?

>> No.15175787

>>15175764
Fitting song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us3cGQs0Q8A

>> No.15175792

>>15175725
>>15175747
From what we know, Von Neumann probes should be possible to make.
Life itself is an example of a sort of self replicating nanomachinery.
The additional steps of sending it somewhere else, braking onto a surface and having it work with whatever chemistry is there don't seem insurmountable.

>> No.15175795

>>15175764
He must have known, right? How could it not be some kind of in-joke with the sheer amount of effort that was taken to try to make him look taller? It's so extensive it makes you suspect that he's somehow even shorter than he looks because you're asking yourself 'what else have they done to make him look taller?'.

>> No.15175801

>>15175795
In space height doesn't matter, muskrat.

>> No.15175805

>>15175792
Well the problem is that unless there is some means of traveling faster than light then there's a point beyond which it's just impossible for us to know if there are aliens because there's absolutely no way that anything they could have done would be able to be detected by us, not even a perfectly aimed and concentrated signal straight for Earth that somehow wouldn't dissipate.

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>> No.15175813

>>15175805
The point is that if there's someone with a Von Neumann probe anywhere within our Galaxy within a million years every planetary surface should be covered in alien machines.

>> No.15175814
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15175814

>>15175805
anon, you're comically underestimating how quickly a light cone expands.

>> No.15175817

>>15175813
>>15175814
That's irrelevant. One galaxy is nothing.

>> No.15175819

>>15175813
Maybe the real red pill is that humanity IS the alien machine. We are the Von Neumann probe.

>> No.15175827

>>15175819
Rather unlikely though. It would be really a shitty probe if it took 3.7 billion years and counting to replicate to another star.

>> No.15175854

>>15175814
>>15175817
Von Neumann probes? Just build a galaxy-sized mecha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxNss-vrB2g

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>>15175721

>> No.15175896

>>15175808
Shuttle C was a good idea

>> No.15175897
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15175897

The account that posts Starbase road closures is being shut down. WTF is happening to Twitter?

>> No.15175901

>>15175747
>>15175747
>all intelligent life being at virtually the same level of technological development

this is not so absurd if you consider the possibility of humanity being among the first batch of intelligent life to crop up

>> No.15175905

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91fO97WAPo
brap

>> No.15175906

>>15175897
Company can‚t blow through infinite investor capital anymore because it's now private so the company has to actually make money. Elon wants to monetize API access as normal users won't complain about that.

>> No.15175913

>>15175897
elon no!

>> No.15175916

>>15175906
Why the fuck did Elon buy Twitter

>> No.15175931

>>15175897
I don't get it can't he just use an out-of-twitter script to run an account automatically? Just let your computer run.

>> No.15175940

>>15175906
Private can still raise money. Fed funds rate isn't zero anymore so that's the real story.

>> No.15175942
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15175942

>>15175707
It’s probably impossible, but my point is just that fermi’s paradox is gay and doesn’t ‘prove’ anything one way or another

>> No.15175947

>>15175462
If they included a spin module it would look somewhat advanced.

>> No.15175948
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15175948

That's a cool shot

>> No.15175951
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15175951

>>15175948
The PAP separated very low
Almost like when I try to recover by SRB in ksp before I reach the craft load limit

>> No.15175961

>>15175808
>>15175896

Any expendable rocket concept is far from a good Idea.

>> No.15175962
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15175962

>>15175948
I love Ariane 4 so much

>> No.15175963

>>15175948
Is this real? Holy cow

>> No.15175965
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15175965

>>15175963
Yeah it's from the maiden launch of Ariane 3

>> No.15175973
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15175973

>>15175965
Here's a booster separation cam from an Ariane 44LP.

>> No.15175991

>>15175973
>Having two different sized boosters
Why?

>> No.15175997

>>15175991
The SRBs had to be cheaper and not every payload needed the full performance of four LRBs.

>> No.15175998

>>15175991
cause it's frickin rocket science
BILL NYE
HECK YEAH

>> No.15175999

>>15175905
>pressure fed
i sleep

>> No.15176014

>>15175808
I can feel the low framerate in this still image

>> No.15176022

>>15176014
lol, even my pc lagged a little bit after opening it

>> No.15176037

https://twitter.com/SpaceNews_Inc/status/1621680933572075520

SpaceX is getting fucked

>> No.15176038

>>15176037
go back to twitter

>> No.15176040
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15176040

>>15176037
>Johnathon Caldwell, vice president of military space at Lockheed Martin, and Mark Dankberg, chairman and CEO of Viasat, were appointed to the National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee
Why is Biden smiling?

>> No.15176043

Blows my mind that natural temperatures on the Earth’s surface can reach -100°F. It feels so bizarre. I’m used to +100 where I live, and I’ve been camping in -5°F. But NEGATIVE 100?! Earth is crazy. -104 was just recorded in new hampshire, breaking the US record. I can’t even imagine what the hell this would feel like.

>> No.15176048

>>15176043
>-100°F
What the fuck is that, speak in Celsius.

>> No.15176049
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15176049

>>15175444
Ariane 1
>1.85 tons to GTO
>175 Million Francs (1979)
>$110 million today

>> No.15176052

>>15176048
Very cold but it’s wind chill, it’s really just -40 F/C

>> No.15176059

I wanma fugg the blu foxy :)))

>> No.15176060

>>15176049
Reading more into it they had given Intelsat a 10% cut lol

>> No.15176061

>>15176049
Atlas V, Delta IV, Ariane 5, Vega, etc. all seem cheap compared to their older siblings while also being way more capable.

>> No.15176063

>>15176061
It really only was the early/mid 2000s to early 2010s period that saw price stagnation, until SpaceseX

>> No.15176067

>>15175897
it's the account's first step in asking for donations

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>>15176048
>he doesn't use the one true temperature scale, Kelvin

>> No.15176071

>>15176061
>Atlas V, Delta IV
One of the goals of the EELV program was to get a 50-75% reduction in cost versus the rockets we were flying at the time.

>> No.15176073

>>15176070
I like using negative numbers, thank you very much

>> No.15176074
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>>15175897
If only it was possible to publish information on the web without using a third-party site that people can literally use to announce when they're taking a crap.

>> No.15176075

>>15175916
because the Twits forced him to, so the first thing he did was fire them

>> No.15176077

>>15176074
I love cats so much

>> No.15176081
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15176081

Pegasus is actually kind of a cool rocket with neat history.

>Orbital Sciences founded in 1982 by three Harvard grads with funding from a Texas banker
>Win a NASA contract to launch 8 Orbcomm satellites in 1985
>Invest $100 million (current $$$) into developing an air launched rocket
>Hire Hercules Aerospace to build the solid propellant while Orbital makes the actual vehicle
>NASA loans a B-52 for early carry tests with the Pegasus
>1990: First launch of Pegasus. All goes well. Astronaut Gordon Fullerton pilots the B-52 for the drop.
>Pegasus becomes the first private Orbital launcher ever
>Pegasus proceeds to dominate the small launch market until Falcon 9 takes hold, 25 freaking years later.
Pegasus would go on to launch dozens of satellites, including:
>IBEX (an interstellar gas telescope), >Orbcomm’s initial satellite constellation
>TRACE and RHESSI (solar telescopes)
>GALEX (UV Telescope)
>NuStar (X Ray telescope)

Pegasus was a revolutionary thing at the time which has sadly shown it’s age. But it’s interesting how Orbital Sciences Corporation was the first true “Space startup” - they just BECAME OldSpace over time
>1990 - Orbital goes public
>2000’s - Orbital wins military contracts to build ICBMs
>2007 - Orbital builds the Dawn mission to ceres (for NASA)
>2008 - Orbital wins a CRS contract to fly Antares and Cygnus to the ISS
>2014 - Orbital merges with ATK to form Orbital ATK
>2018 - Orbital ATK is absorbed by Northrop Grumman

Once again, Pegasus and Orbital have an incredible history, but a series of decisions the latter made ended up diminishing their “agile” startup nature. In another life, they could have become the SpaceX of the 90’s. But today, they are a subset of Northrop Grumman, and only two more Pegasus rockets remain, both of them lacking a customer

>> No.15176084

>>15176071
Atlas V and Delta IV would’ve absolutely destroyed the commercial market 20-30 years ago.

>> No.15176085
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>>15176081
>2008 - Orbital wins a CRS contract to fly Antares and Cygnus to the ISS
This event did not help them stay new-spacey.

>> No.15176096

>>15176085
Nope. I was going to make a Part 2 about the Taurus rocket (which is a Pegasus sitting on a fat solid stage) and a Part 3 about Antares. Antares and Cygnus are one of the moments Orbital really fell off; they make none of them in house aside from the solid upper stage of Antares, and the service module (not the panels) of Cygnus.

>> No.15176107

I’m thinking of getting a minor in chemistry, it’s only 2 extra classes for my major. Thoughts?

>> No.15176110

https://www.space.com/jupiter-moon-discoveries-total-92
>Jupiter now has the most moons in the solar system, beating Saturn thanks to 12 newfound satellites
>Jupiter isn't just the largest and most massive planet in the solar system — now, the gas giant also boasts the largest number of moons orbiting it after scientists discovered another 12 moons, bringing the behemoth's total up to 92.
Saturnbros... it's over

>> No.15176115

>>15176110
STOP THE COUNT

>> No.15176177

>>15176110
i guess anything counts as a fucking moon these days. *eyeroll*

>> No.15176179

>>15176115
kek

>> No.15176180

would it be possible to create a homemade liquid rocket engine without killing myself?

>> No.15176184
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>>15175000
We have the technology

>> No.15176193
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>>15176184
This guy was just like Beebo Russel.
His loved ones looked on horrified. When asked why he did it he responded that he "felt he had to."
He killed himself a couple years after his balloon flight.

>> No.15176195

>>15176085
I wonder how the ABL explosion looked compared to this

>> No.15176218

>Falcon 9 v1.0 had the same thrust and payload to LEO as Atlas V
Idk why but this is pretty amazing desu

>> No.15176225

>>15176195
A bit less dramatic overall. OA-5 blew a turbopump where ABL's DEMO-1 just had all of its engines quietly shut off, so the Michael Bay factor would be significantly reduced. It also only had about a seventh the launch mass of an Antares 100 so the explosion would be a quiet a bit smaller.

>> No.15176229

2nd Chinese balloon over latin America now

also news reporting that the US one deployed something

>> No.15176234

>>15176225
I really wish we got to see the pad fire which killed Astra’s first Rocket 3.0

>> No.15176237
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>>15175973
Fuck bros I want to be strapped onto the side of a booster and skydive from a rocket. If that Red Bull guy could survive going supersonic, how hard could this be?

>> No.15176244

>>15176237
it would be extremely painful

>> No.15176278

>>15175781
Aircraft (xplanes) have flown into space, typically requiring zoom climbs, because wings become less effective as the atmosphere gets sparser as you go up in altitude. Most general aviation planes don't even have pressurized cabins to get crew to high altitudes let alone space.

Ultimately it is right craft for right job and a plane will rarely be the right one to go to space and when it is it will have compromises somewhere.

>> No.15176282

>>15175781
They can't go fast enough to reliably break through the dome.

>> No.15176287
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The balloon got shot down

>> No.15176302
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>>15176287
based Sam

>> No.15176309

>>15176302
It’s funny that it’s Russia’s fault the Ghost of Kyiv meme started. Everyone believed their rhetoric that
>”All of Ukraine’s Air Force was destroyed in 4 hours XAXAX!!!”
So when Ukrainian planes were spotted, it was natural to assume it’s way fewer pilots actually flying than really were

>> No.15176316

>>15176237
Instead, ride an SRB all the way up in a suit strapped to the top. Jump off at apogee after burnout, hope you're not going too fast.

>> No.15176330

I want to write a sci-fi novel set in the near future, say 2040s-2060s. What themes should I include incorporating shit like starship, NTP and artemis?

Something that would revolve around some mass effect type artifact being found

>> No.15176381

>>15176330
>colonies on the moon and mars with maybe 10,000-50,000 people
>Chemical rockets used for earth to orbit but maybe SSTOs like Skylon finally are real
>Interplanetary travel uses nuclear or solar electric for cargo and NTP or Chemical for crew
Sounds like kino

>> No.15176397

>>15176330
plasma magnet sails

>> No.15176400
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>>15176330
>novel
make a graphic novel (comic book) or youtube series with AI generated images and stories

>> No.15176409

>>15176381
>Mars turns out to have a breathable atmosphere, it's just that governments were colluding to make it seem uninhabitable to prevent a land rush

>> No.15176425

>>15176400
>the Atotler
>either from the creators of or a sequel to Marxers
>an AIWARS and NETFLIX collaboration
I'd watch it

>> No.15176462

>>15176425
*NITX

>> No.15176473

How long could you survive on Mars without a suit? The cold seems like a non-issue, atmosphere is thin and you would be dead of lack of oxygen long before any frostbite. How bad is the effect of near vaccuum assuming you hyper-oxygenate and then vent everything from your lungs? Could you do a few minutes?

>> No.15176488

>people are speculating that there will be a series of spin prime tests ahead of the 33 engine static fire
spacex are really stretching this out and delaying it as long as possible

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15176491

>>15176287
>samuel hydegan
when a faggot tries to be funny. just call him sam hyde, like that guy who shot up the community collage

>> No.15176497

>>15174622
>It was a glitch, bro, just trust me

>> No.15176498

>>15173472
What are the odds that the US has a space based nuclear defense should? All these classified satellites being launched make me wonder.

>> No.15176540
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Indications now that SpaceX is losing the battle in space to overcome jamming of Starlinks over Ukraine.

>> No.15176546

>>15176540
interesting development. maybe this is evidence that military grade megaconstellations are actually needed, and that civilian ones can only get so far.

>> No.15176551

>>15176540
I mean it's not a p2p lidar or anything so its definitely vulnerable to EM jamming, don't know much about the spectrum but your average EW unit can probably fuck up starlink in a wide radius.

>> No.15176558

>>15176540
Intel Slava Z is a notorious liar.

>> No.15176576

>>15176540
GO RUSSIA GO RUSSIA GO RUSSIA WE ARE WINNING!

>> No.15176592
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>>15176540
I thought Russia took Bakhmut a few months ago?

>> No.15176593

>>15176576
Well Ukraine is on like wave 9 conscription hunting down old men and underage b& so yeah I guess Russia is probably winning.

>> No.15176599

>>15176593
>Smaller country gets invaded and conscripts all their citizens to fight a superpower
Whoah shocker.

>> No.15176613 [DELETED] 

>>15176592
its ww1 style warfare with trenches and artillery. this shit is going to last awhile. the iran-iraq war was the same way and that lasted 8 years.

>> No.15176614

>>15176599
Yeah, so losing, gotcha.

>> No.15176619

>>15176614
How much territory has Russia gained in the past six months?

>> No.15176623

>>15176613
It’s trivial to break stalemates like that if you aren’t a pussy.

>> No.15176626

>>15176619
>muh map gainz

Ask the Germans how that went for them. You don't need to win any territory if the enemy keeps throwing green troops into your prepared kill zones, has no allies and minimal material support from supposed neutrals. Take a reality check.

>> No.15176630

>>15176626
Once the enemy is depleted, you can mop up.

>> No.15176651

so no static fire this week huh. you guys lied

>> No.15176655

>>15176651
wdym?
we said static fire is in two weeks

>> No.15176662

Interesting that Ariane 4 had pretty substantial delays, went from Mid 1985 launch in mid/late 1983 then almost continuously slipped to the point it was early 1988 by mid 1986, then it caught up by mid 1988

>> No.15176669

>>15176662
Space is hard

>> No.15176684

>>15176662
No rocket has ever been on time

>> No.15176698

>>15176684
Ariane 1 was actually on time, while Ariane 3 ans 5 and ECA had 1 year or less of delay (but failures for the two later)

A4 and A6 are the only ones with

>> No.15176701

>>15176698
Are the only ones with delays of multiple years.

But yeah, Ariane 1 was actually on the planned Europa 3 schedule despite the Europa program being cancelled and in limbo for a couple of years. It is possible to develop a rocket on time.

>> No.15176713
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chinese balloon spotted in space
https://twitter.com/TULDSkySaac/status/1621559377399525377

>> No.15176714
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https://twitter.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1621596201698361345
>beta capture
hey uhh can the code monkeys developing this shit please explain why every video preview of KSP2 clearly runs like ass? dont you retards have non-potato hardware? all your previews run at 20fps. fucking hell there arent even many parts in this one, just a capsule reentering. and this is supposed to release in a few weeks?? beta capture???
>early access
oh boy, gotta love it when Take 2 publishes an unfinished game. Take 2, literal owner of Rockstar Games, simply cannot afford to use their GTA bux to release a complete hd graphics mod. and dont give me that shit about ksp1 being early access for years. That was an indie team and practically a passion project in its inception. Private Division was created by T2 to develop this shit after Star Theory went defunct. Even poached some of their devs prior. So essentially Squad sold out to T2, T2 creates 343 Industries I mean Private Division to make a soulless, unfinished, empty husk of a game, and mouthbreathing gamers will buy it because it has basebuilding. fantastic honestly, we dont have enough basedboi building simulators. now we just need crafting and paid mods and we can finally have a great ksp game. Review bomb incoming, and well deserved

>> No.15176729

>>15176714
I absolutely despise those vertical videos.

>> No.15176771

>>15176180
yes

>> No.15176794

>>15176714
>unity game
what did you expect

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>>15176714
DLSS will fix it. why worry.
You do have an nvidia card don't you anon.

>> No.15176808

>>15176806
Dlss is useless if it’s cpu-limited

>> No.15176810
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>born too early to experience massive city sized space stations

>> No.15176812

>>15176808
huh this is wrong?

>> No.15176831

>>15176806
DLSS only solves gpu render resolution overhead. There is no way in fuck KSP 2's ass performance is due to those kiddy graphics. KSP has always been CPU-constrained and no amount of DLSS can interpolate the simulation (unless KSP moves its physics sim to the GPU, which would be kino and also won't ever happen)

>> No.15176833

>>15176473
Too low of an oxygen vapor pressure causes your lungs to pull oxygen out of your blood. Almost no total pressure plus no oxygen in that, yeah not for long.

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>>15176576

>> No.15176836

>orbital flight delayed until the installation of water deluge is finished
2024, it is

>> No.15176837

>>15176794
>blaming the engine
>not blaming the AAA publisher and their propped up studio cutting every possible corner and ultimately spending 3+ years to release their garbage unoptimized KSP realism overhaul mod
you're coping if you actually believe that

>> No.15176842

>>15176831
>(unless KSP moves its physics sim to the GPU, which would be kino and also won't ever happen)
I wish intensive CPU-bound games could do this. Like 4X games aren't really that taxing on graphics, might as well put GPUs to use chugging away to crunch numbers.

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>>15176808
>Unity
>cpu-limited
confirmed, Unity can't into threads either

>> No.15176854

>>15176846
That's good. The devs will spend the money they saved by having to remake the game in Unreal on making the best game possible. More content, hopefully lots of kinds of bases and windmills or pods. it will be like Spore, but more perfect, with infinite content

>> No.15176859

I dont care if it runs at 1fps i will pirate it anyway

>> No.15176883

>>15176831
>>15176842
you guys are retarded. DLSS interpolates the frames and it feels smooth.

>> No.15176884
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What the hell will KSP 2 even do that you can't achieve in 1 with a couple of mods?

>> No.15176888

>>15176884
bring more money to greedy incompetent fucks

>> No.15176890

>>15176842
I think it's because there's no single target API. You would have to write it 3 times each for CUDA, ROCm, one api.

>> No.15176891

>>15176883
Holy shit how dumb are you? Yes you can interpolate frames, no you cant interpolate physics. If the bottleneck was the GPU sure DLSS might help, but the bottleneck is the CPU you dumb fuck

>> No.15176892

>>15176831
Ksp used unity as game engine. Unity uses physix, Nvidia physics simulator. However it only runs the CPU version. Nvidia has gpu version of physx but it won't allow other GPUs(amd/intel) to benefit from it. Also there are other gpu powered physics engine particularly for unity from other devs, all open sourced.

Optimization doesn't takes place because devs are either unaware or don't care.

>> No.15176894

>>15176884
make a lot of money off gullible autismos by doing the bare minimum, and slapping an early access sticker on it so they aren't allowed to cry about it ;)

>> No.15176900

>>15176883
Then you’re losing simulation accuracy

>> No.15176907

>>15176884
The whole fucking project was started because you couldn't do falcon 9 in ksp1. And now they're just fucking around doing god knows what.

>> No.15176908

NK-33 powered Zenit (Real proposal) would have been based desu, would have flown a bit earlier too without RD-170 dev bottleneck

Then just have the ecologist soviet movement/Kazakh nationalists push for trying to develop controlled recovery to avoid dumping the stage In the steppes and you have the basis for a soviet VTVL launcher that probably doesn’t go far but whose engineer can probably move to the west

NK-33 had pretty good throttle and 90s modifications are aerojets have it gimble and restart capabilities

>> No.15176911

>>15176908
>NK-33 had pretty good throttle and 90s modifications at aerojets have it gimbal and restart capabilities*

>> No.15176919

>>15176891
You're retarded. What DLSS does is make it not an eyesore. Doesn't matter if CPU bound.

>> No.15176936

>>15176900
No ksp preserves that. Just slows down the time. DLSS would give you consistently high frame rate.

>> No.15176937

I can't be the only one who loves industrialism and machinery and wants to see humanity stripmine every planet, right?

>> No.15176947

>>15176937
Including earth? No.

>> No.15176964

>>15176947
Earth should be corecracked and it's seas drained and used to irrigate rotating space habitats.

>> No.15176969

>>15176919
Yes it does matter you brainless fucking mouthbreather. Say KSP2 is running at 4K native and your CPU is pegged to 100% chugging on physics simulations and GPU is at 10% and your game runs at 15fps. Now turn DLSS on, and you now run at 1K native (DLSS mimics 4K) your CPU is still pegged to 100% doing the same physics sim and GPU is now at 5%. Your framerate is still 15fps because the source of low frames is NOT the rendering resolution. There is only 1 performance issue DLSS solves, and that is when your GPU cant run a game at high resolution with good framerates. It WILL NOT FIX bad optimization of any kind, be that framepacing, frame drops, stutters, and certainly not CPU overhead.

>> No.15176979

>>15176969
Correct until
>Your framerate is still 15fps
this is peak pseudery. go back to youtube you're literally spouting nonsense.

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>>15176964
I believe

>> No.15176984

>>15176969
There's no such thing as optimization in 2023. Games are way bigger than they need to be.

>> No.15176987

>>15176979
Learn what DLSS does before posting. It's not a magic double-my-FPS button

>> No.15176992

The internal physics sim will be running at 15fps regardless what FRAPS tells ya buddy.

>> No.15176994

>>15176987
I see. It's just bad.
It should interpolate between frames too.

>> No.15176997

>>15176994
That's Dlss3 aka "fake frames" but that's not gonna help at 15fps.

>> No.15177002

>>15176997
So I was right. Sure it should make it feel good.

>> No.15177013

>>15177002

Frame interpolation/creation has diminishing return the lower the frame rate tho

>> No.15177014

>>15176994
you could double the output frames and it will still look like 15fps to your eyes. That's because the actual physics simulation is running at 15fps internally. It's like running a 30fps ps2 game in progressive scan on a 60hz crt tv. Yes the refresh rate is 60hz, there really will be 60 "frames" flashed at you. but the game will internally appear at 30 no matter what you do

>> No.15177020

>>15177014
You're even more confused.
It wouldn't look like 15 because that's what interpolation means faggot.
>>15177013
15 frames per second is plenty to fill in the blanks.

>> No.15177025

>>15177020
you fundamentally don't understand DLSS

>> No.15177027

So replace "DLSS" by "DLSS3" in everything I said and it's 100% accurate and you're coping.
That's what I meant inter-frame neural interpolation.

>> No.15177028

>>15177025
You're fundamentally too low IQ to see you're wrong.

>> No.15177031

>buy an RTX 4090 goy
>for KSP

>> No.15177035

>>15177028
>>15177027
cool, my TV from 2016 has frame interpolation so I guess I'm all set. why do i need nvidias newfangled tech?

>> No.15177042

>>15177035
Nvidia’s tech is smarter at guessing new informations to fill the blanks

Gross interpolation looks like shit at low frame rate

>> No.15177048

>>15177014
>what is interpolation

>> No.15177059

>>15177042
nta but to rely on nvidia dlss3 ( frame insert only on 400 series) wont help perf for 90% of the ppl who buy. dont even know if it has dlss3

>> No.15177068

>>15177031
I’m convinced you have to be a turbo-loser to make a gaming PC

>> No.15177069

>>15177068
>he doesn't cad

>> No.15177071
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15177071

I'll admit to being a normie in relation to small space startups. What do you think of Stoke space? They at least appear to have a plan that isn't just small-lift breadcrumbs left from SpaceX.

>> No.15177084

>>15177068
unironically true unless you're in middle school. i would hope adults have better things to do

>> No.15177088

>>15176540
finally some truth western homos are trying to conceal from incel smegma Z

>> No.15177091
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>>15177042
It's a matter of latency. You can't interpolate to a frame that hasn't been rendered yet. At a low frame rate that puts you enough behind to fuck with anything interactive.
You missed the point of >>15177035 which is that the default interpolation on modern TV sets is annoying when trying to use it as a PC display because of the lag, and doing it inside the computer can't stop those basic laws of time from fucking you with latency.

>> No.15177092

>>15177084
My Xbox plays game well enough and it was not even $400, and that literally just plugs in and starts working, whereas apparently high-end graphics cards for computers are well over a thousand dollars.

I have a computer but I only play old based games like Red Alert 2 and Doom on it so there’s no need for any fancy equipment

>> No.15177095

>>15177088
getting a little hot under your collar, dog?

>> No.15177096

>>15177091
That's a goalpost movement from "it won't look like 60fps" but even that can be remedied. simply feed a keylogger into the network and include it in the training.

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>>15177096
KSP2 wont have DLSS so the point is moot

>> No.15177103

>>15177071
The vehicle they're marketing is a smallsat launcher. High development costs and fuel margins will make it cost a lot per launch. They just need to hope it gets enough investor attention to fund a bigger rocket. That's not easy in current year.

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>>15177092
The only reason I would buy and Xbox would be to play the definitive version of Deadly Premonition (X360 with backwards compatibility). Anyway Zack, this isnt spaceflight

>> No.15177109

>>15177104
There will be Xboxes on Mars and there's nothing Schlomo can do to stop it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhYVXybXUTI

KSP 2.0 is dead.

Juno New Origins is the new hotness.

>> No.15177142

Why is everyone but China and ABL doing live transmissions of rocket launches? Even POCKOCMOC is doing them.

>> No.15177143

>>15177127
Have you played it? Is it good?

>> No.15177147

>>15177142
Its common for new entrants to not do live transmission for bad press. Its better for first few failures to be forgotten

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>>15176540
>incel slave z

>> No.15177151

>>15177071
>smallsat
it's over

>> No.15177157

>>15177127
I also seen another game like that but it's more like flightsim???
https://store.steampowered.com/app/882140/Reentry__An_Orbital_Simulator/?l=german

>> No.15177159

>>15177103
Surely NASA would give them occassional payload missions to sustain themselves?

>> No.15177160

>>15177157
That's historical-focused orbiter

>> No.15177168
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>STOKE
https://youtu.be/EY8nbSwjtEY
>SPACE
https://youtu.be/50tJcmYtRok
GET THE FFFFFFUUUUUUUCK IN HEEEEEERREEE

>> No.15177172

>>15177168
Any Stokers in chat /

>> No.15177177

>>15177143
It feels like a copy of KSP with minor changes. You would think it's good but actually makes the game feel boring. When you have been playing KSP for many years, installed many interesting mods and see Juno, you think, why even bother with that new game? Sure, it has some advantages like procedural creator, but that's not enough to make me play it over KSP. It doesn't even look much better than KSP. The game has more realistic graphics, instead of the cartoonish style from KSP, but they are not even high quality. Even the career is copypasted.
For me, it looks like they decided to rush it before the KSP2 release.

>> No.15177184

>>15177177
>Sure, it has some advantages like procedural creator
Couldn't that be a mod for KSP? It practically already is with tweakscale, I haven't been limited by tank sizes/lengths in years

>> No.15177187

>>15177184
procedural parts already exists, gets used heavily in RP-1

>> No.15177196

>>15177168
Kino video.
You can call him estronaut all you want.

>> No.15177197

>>15177172
I'm Stoked. About 10 centistokes.

>> No.15177198

>>15177184
I just want KSP as it is now but more optimized and all the must-have mods built-in to the base game including tweakscale that works on fairings

>> No.15177203
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>>15177168
Why are they always doing this?

>> No.15177204

>>15177198
What are your essentials? I just added the outer planets mod after getting bored of doing big Jool tours.

>> No.15177207

>>15177168
Stokes seems like they're moving the complexity from reusable S2 to reusable S1

They probably could have a decent marketable design if they just decided to have mass produced expendable big dumb S1, or if they used that technology for a S1, but nah, they're picking the hardest option

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>>15177168
SpaceX is officially oldspace

>> No.15177222

US will shot down that Chink spy ballon in coming hours soon over East Coast, excited.

>> No.15177223

>>15177168
Wants to build a raptor like full flow cycle engine for their first stage booster.
Not interested in flying the second stage with another vehicle.
Dangerously based.

>> No.15177230

>>15177207
Expendable orbital rockets used for transportation is the dumbest idea ever conceived for spaceflight.

>> No.15177231

>>15177222
source?

>> No.15177237

>>15177222
Should have done that the moment it crossed into US airspace, what a joke.

>> No.15177239

>>15177222
Too late, the US has already been embarrassed

>> No.15177243

>>15177239
How high is it supposedly? F-22 has a service ceiling of 65k ft

>> No.15177244

>>15177222
Checked

>> No.15177252

>>15177243
It's at 48K, easily in range

>> No.15177373

>>15177168
Wow, I really really really hope they succeed, when is their IPO? I want to buy some shares

>> No.15177384

>>15177373
You see that's the thing. When a company is good enough, they don't have to.

>> No.15177410

>>15177168
>FFSC on a smallsat launcher
HAHAHAHAHA

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Mixed feeling about Stoke. I like their concept and I even like their CEO (certainly knows more about rocketry than Musk) but they are using hydrogen and their CEO came from BO

>> No.15177434

>>15177432
>their CEO came from BO
I thought the Stoke backstory is that they were formed from former BO employees who weren't satisfied with their progress and innovation. I wouldn't take that as a negative.

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>>15177432
Upon learning that their COO is a woman i got some cargo cult vibes. Not really deserved i hope.

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>>15177432
>certainly knows more about rocketry than Musk

>> No.15177442

>>15177068
>>15177084
TAKE
THAT
BACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkZx-SbwLac

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>> No.15177445

>>15177432
>certainly knows more about rocketry than Musk
YWNBARW
Hail Musk

>> No.15177447

>>15177443
>it's real
LMAO alright they're NGMI

>> No.15177448

>>15177432
>but they are using hydrogen
So?

>> No.15177452

>>15177448
So their rocket is too expensive and their fuel is too expensive. Neutron is probably going to eat their lunch.

>> No.15177455

>>15177452
At that size class, even Alpha is gonna be eating their lunch

>> No.15177458

Anyone know where Stoke is planning to launch from? Im assuming the cape but if they built a launch facility in washington state that would be cool

>> No.15177459

>>15177031
I'm going to buy it for AI waifus

>> No.15177465

anyone who truly believes stoke will make it has to go back

>> No.15177466

>millions of small rocket companies
>no payload to launch

>> No.15177468

>>15177071
Looks like they scaled down a 3d model of falcon 9 in one axis only.

>> No.15177470

>>15177452
>their rocket is too expensive
>their fuel is too expensive
How so?

>> No.15177477

>>15177151
Everyone starts with smallsats.

>> No.15177479

where should I apply /sfg/
I need a job
fresh out of grad school with an engineering degree

>> No.15177486

>>15177071
>flared interstage
>ocean landing legs
enjoy plasma knives retard

>> No.15177488

>>15177468
It's what ad agencies and the Chinese think Falcon 9 looks like

>> No.15177502

>>15177477
They probably could've designed a Falcon 9 clone with the R&D money needed for this. That would've been a smarter first step.

>> No.15177509
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35mm is based

>> No.15177510

>>15177509
looks like worse digital.

>> No.15177514

>>15177509
>Experimental NASA Atlas-Apollo prototype on the pad, September 1967 [File Photo]

>> No.15177516

>>15177509
nothing special

>> No.15177519

>>15177071
It sounds cool, but having a hydrogen upper stage makes me think it’ll have a high unit cost, so they need reusability ASAP

>> No.15177523

>>15177509
>>15177514
>NASA concept for a Shuttle-Widebody Atlas (1968)

>> No.15177525

>>15177519
It is reusable, expander cycle aerospikes with actively cooled heatshield.

>> No.15177529

>>15177525
No I get that, I just think banking on reusability right away is iffy. But the upper stage is based desu

>> No.15177562

What would be some good locations for a new launch facility?

My guesses
>Swamps near cape may NJ
>Plum Island on Long Island NY
>Somewhere in the bay in Seattle
>Puerto Rico/Guam
>Coast of Rhode Island
>Alabama coast

>> No.15177576

>>15177562
Europe so I can go watch

>> No.15177581

>>15177576
Move to America

>> No.15177583

>>15177581
We're all living in America

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>>15177562
Great Lakes shoreside, could be nice for polar orbits.

>> No.15177598
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>>15177562
P.R. would be great except for the fact that everything has to get shipped in by boat like you’re launching from CSG and the political corruption is off the charts. Local infrastructure isn’t anything to get excited over either.

>> No.15177601

>>15177562
Downeast Maine could easily support polar, and maybe mid inclination if Nova Scotia allows flyovers.
Before too long, rocket reliability may be trusted enough to build a spaceport in the interior west or northern Maine for reusable rockets.

>> No.15177603

>>15177598
>doesn’t include Biscarrosse
Sadge

>> No.15177607
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I like the paint job

>> No.15177613

>>15177432
https://youtu.be/EY8nbSwjtEY?t=2418
they use methane

>> No.15177615

>>15176964
Rotating habitats should be despun and reduced to component materials and sent down the gravity well to planets where they can be usefully consumed.

>> No.15177617

>>15177613
methane first stage, hydrogen second stage

>> No.15177618

>>15177613
For the first stage, the second is hydrolox.

>> No.15177620

So they being tsundere for f9

>> No.15177621

>>15177613
>>15177617
>>15177618
pretty based. i like their design. would be fun to see a cost calculation for a starship sized one of these and a starship.

>> No.15177634

>>15177617
they're not gonna make it

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>>15177607

>> No.15177653
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it's dead

>> No.15177654

>>15177653
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.15177655

>>15177168
They seem completely delusional

>> No.15177659

https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace/featured
channel with 500 subscribers that interviews some of the top people in space

>> No.15177664

>>15177659
The few I've listened to were devoid of solid information and were bogged down by investor speak. If there were such a thing as an "industry plant" in spaceflight podcasts, Payload would be it.

>> No.15177673

>>15177653
Bezos literally scrapping his mother...

>> No.15177681

I love him so much bros
https://twitter.com/spacegirllina/status/1621797168431636480

>> No.15177683

>>15177562
We've been over this before, Duluth Minnesota is the best.

>> No.15177691
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Why are people STILL designing hydr*lox trash

>> No.15177694

>>15177681
have some GOD DAMN FAITH

>> No.15177695

>>15177691
The Stoke upper stage is cool and based and cute. Stop bully

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>>15177562
>>15177683
>We've been over this before, Duluth Minnesota is the best.

>> No.15177699

>>15177695
Not buying your startup scam IPO, I will open short positions for the first launch though.

>> No.15177700

>>15177159
There are too many new small launcher companies these days for that to be a viable option. Maybe 2-3 of the newspace companies will make the hump to become what SpaceX is/was today but the rest are going to go bankrupt or be bought out by larger firms.

>> No.15177707

I don't get why there's so much FUD over KSP 2.

>> No.15177709

>>15177615
>noooo you have to waste thousands of delta/v just getting into orbit and live on inefficient planets instead of efficient space stations

>> No.15177710

>>15177707
Then you have no common sense

>> No.15177711
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*pop*

>> No.15177712

>>15177707
When it comes to modern gaming, u should learn to keep your expectations extremely low

>> No.15177722

>>15177711
So did the F-16s just take some burst shots? Or did they fire a missile at it lol

>> No.15177723

>>15177707
Because early access, doesn't help that all the footage they have shown has low fps

>> No.15177728

>>15176070
I'm a big fan of Rankine

>> No.15177729
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Biden ordered shooting of Chinese baloon

>> No.15177732
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>>15177681
Can’t have a quiet holiday to Tahiti

>> No.15177735

any progress pics on the oil rigs? I'm guessing they're being reworked open air so should be visible

>> No.15177739

F-22 1:0

>> No.15177740

>>15177442
>puts in psu first
>puts cables in second
>puts empty motherboard in case next
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>> No.15177741

>>15177735
they will go the way of jacklyn

>> No.15177743

>>15177729
Thank you Biden for emasculating our country even more

>> No.15177751
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>>15177711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A

>> No.15177752

>>15177751
lmao

>> No.15177762
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>>15177711
God bless this great country
>>15177729
Thank you, Joe

>> No.15177769

>>15177711
>>15177722
>>15177751
>>15177762
how easily you are fooled kek

>> No.15177776

>>15177769
USA was humiliated

>> No.15177777

>>15177769
>don't believe your lying eyes

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>>15177777

>> No.15177782

Shot it with a missile. Kek
https://twitter.com/JasonSellers32/status/1621957058441494530?cxt=HHwWhIC-1bzWrIItAAAA

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>>15177782
thas mah aiur fawrce rite der buddeh

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>>15177782
>>15177789
they really do clap for anything lmao

>> No.15177805

>>15177802
to be fair, south carolina is the third world. this is a big win for them

>> No.15177811

can someone explain the geopolitical reasons behind USA bringing up this balloon right now?

>> No.15177816
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>>15177811
It's obviously a cheap distraction from some other shit going on. Float a balloon up, claim it's chinks and whip up the media frenzy for a few days, pop it and claim glorious victory or whatever. Goyim successfully distracted. Even the chinks wouldn't do dumb shit like this when they have spy satellites.

>> No.15177817

>>15177811
There are none really. This was just Biden trying to score a quick win because it got a ton of publicity and people wanted to shoot it down. If it was actually a security threat it would have been jammed/shot down yesterday. I doubt it could have accomplished anything that Chinese spysats couldn't.

>> No.15177823

>>15177816
dilate

>> No.15177824

>>15177811
Because they have spotted it?

>> No.15177829

>>15177817
>quick win
Which won't work because the people wanting it shot down wanted it shot down days ago, not once it already crossed the country.
>I doubt it could have accomplished anything that Chinese spysats couldn't.
I've been wondering if something like SAR could be more accurate from balloon altitude than space.

>> No.15177832

>>15177829
>Which won't work because the people wanting it shot down wanted it shot down days ago, not once it already crossed the country.
maybe they just wanted China to deny that it's a spy satellite first. Then shoot it down and inspect it.
>I've been wondering if something like SAR could be more accurate from balloon altitude than space.
SAR benefits greatly from a fast moving platform

>> No.15177837

The balloon was carrying a new virus. Shooting it down was exactly what they wanted to happen.

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>>15177829
I heard the beginnings of an argument that it might be a better platform for ground penetrating radar, but the argument was made on twitter and died after 140 characters. It could also just be a better way for China to get data using their existing camera tech. Most of their optical spysats are small enough to be launched on a LM-2C so they're both not that spectacular by NRO standards and well within the weight limits of a large weather balloon. Putting that same sensor several hundred kilometers closer would get a much better return.

Unless you follow Newt Gingrich on twitter, in which case the balloon is 100% a test run for delivering an EMP device into the American heartland.

>> No.15177850

>>15177840
if China wanted to they could simply smuggle an EMP weapon inside the US. Not launch it on a very nonstealthy balloon

>> No.15177855

>>15177562
LC 49

>> No.15177867
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Why do the atlas rockets still look great at ksc but starship can't into not rusting a bit. Someone sell these guys some wd40.

>> No.15177868

CHINESE ARE SPYING OVER STARBASE
https://twitter.com/SpacePadreIsle/status/1621972275032465410

>> No.15177872

>>15177823
Good goyim, keep reading the news

>> No.15177874

>>15177868
Nah dude that was them delivering ccp pussy to dem reps

>> No.15177875

>>15177867
looks like SLS core stage now

>> No.15177881

>>15177867
none of the colors you mean are rust. it's probably an assuini photo.
it does rust but only on weldlines where the alloy changes.

>> No.15177886

>>15177867
Have you ever seen rust in your life?

>> No.15177902

>>15177782
isn't this exactly what the bugs want? shoot down their "harmless" pseudo satellite so they can use it as justification to shoot down any low orbit sats over their territory

>> No.15177904

>>15177881
Would you say its more of a stainless patina?
>>15177886
Only underneath this car of mine

>> No.15177937
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Forgive me Dodd-sama...

>> No.15177967

>>15177709
Dwelling on a station isn't living, it's merely existing.
Preoccupation with efficiency is a typical autismo trait

>> No.15177972

Someone stage

>> No.15177975

>>15177967
Dwelling on E*rth isn't living; it's merely existing.

>> No.15177982

Staging
>>15177980

>>15177980

>> No.15178086

>>15177867
>extreme saturation over HDR'd ansuini crap = starship is rusting
mental damage