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is there any other way to perceive the 4th dimension from our world than a tesseract?

>> No.15172126

DMT

>> No.15172198

meditation, scalar wave antennas

>> No.15172201

astral projection is the higher dimensions

>> No.15172205

the gateway process

>> No.15172313
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dimensions higher than 3d don't exist. gravity wells are not a dimension.

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>>15172313
hyperspace is real

>> No.15172346

>>15172313
it's called the consciousness field

>> No.15172355

>>15172121
By definition there must be an analogous representation for any 4D shape. Simply compute the 3d projections of the object you'd like to see (i.e. delete one of the vector components kek) and project that onto every 2D plane, that's your view of the object from that point.
Coming from four dimentions, pick three at a time, that means 4 three dimensional subsets. If it's a symmetrical object like a tesseract they'll be redundant, or just make it rotate so it alternates what you see.

Long story short, your question is a bit silly. You can, from first principles, project any finite 4D shape onto 3 space and then from that compute 2d imaged you can see (or use a fucking futuristic hologram machine if you have that).
The tesseract is just a common toy case because it's symmetrical so if you rotate it as you display it it looks reasonably meaningful. Something else might just look like a constantly morphing abomination idk

>> No.15172386

>>15172121
No because extra spatial dimensions don't exist out of number scribbles on a piece of paper

>> No.15172400 [DELETED] 

>>15172121
There are actually four dimensions of space, the fourth being the so called gravitational field. The fifth dimension is time, and is not married to space in so-called space-time.

Enlighten your senses, Anon.
> https://youtu.be/fvqXshyuvOg

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>>15172400
Ha. I may agree with half of that but I am *not* impressed by his rendintion.

>> No.15172511 [DELETED] 

>>15172489
What is that schizo diagram?

>> No.15172525

>>15172386
>>15172400
the consciousness field is holographic and has more than 4D, it might end eventually into the absolute, where there is no more holographic encoding

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>>15172511
Only the Chosen Ones can decypher it. I am afraid you are not one of Us.

>> No.15172612

>>15172121
There are no dimensions of perception. Dimensions are a representative tool. Our world is not actually 3d.

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>>15172121
Here's how I usually explain on how you picture
4D space.

Pretend that you and others are moving around in
3D space. You wear a special hat with a number
display and you can adjust it as you wish.
At the moment, the hat has a zero on it and you're
in the same space as them and interacting with
them. Change the number to 5 and they can't "see"
you, but you can see them. Interacting with them
causes you to "phase through" their position
since you're elsewhere in 4D.

>> No.15173288

>>15172121
>implying some random 3D projection of some particular 4D polytope helps us perceive 4D space

>> No.15174653

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>>15172121
i made this picture here which is a guess at an attempt to make something showing something somewhat like 4D.

The images along the top show what going from 2D to 3D would be like. If you were just standing around in 2D, which is the line in the top left, then as it started becoming 3D every would appear to stretch outward horizontally, so things would become wider and wider until some point

One of the things with 2D too is that when you're in 3D looking at a truly 2D object you can see all of it, there's no hidden back side when looking at the front, if you walk around to the other side it's the same as the front but mirrored. So someone in 2D would never be able to hide anything from someone in 3D

The bottom 2 images in the picture are going from 3D to 4D If you imagine you're standing in the centre of the yellow lines, then those lines would start spreading apart and reveal the 4D volume between them, like how in 2D the two sides start moving apart to reveal the 3D volume between them. Imagine there's an infinite amount of yellow lines though. Also, I think the road on the bottom-right image might be a U or O shape instead of straight, that way you're seeing the front of the road and the back at the same time, because someone in 3D can't hide anything from someone in 4D

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>>15174691
...also, you might have seen this rotating tesseract. I initially thought it was one large cube with one smaller cube in the centre moving from left to right and then expanding and folding back over the larger cube which becomes the smaller cube, but after looking at it for a while I don't think it is

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>>15174694
...I'm pretty sure it's actually 2 cubes of the same size rotating in place. On the picture here I drew purple lines on one cube and green lines on the other. Then there's yellow lines connecting them like the yellow lines in the picture on the right. So the purple cube closer to the camera is kind of distorted looking and is rotating on the spot and the green cube in the back is rotating in the opposite direction

>> No.15176973

bump

>> No.15176983

intelligence test
is the cube facing up one down?

>> No.15177019

>>15172313
This.

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The tesseract is only the 4D shape in the Euclidean topology. Our 4D universe has Lorentzian topology and the shape is called a hypercone. It is very simple compared to a tesseract. In one time dimension and three space dimensions (Lorentzian), the spatial part of the universe is a scoop of ice cream on an ice cream cone and the scoop gets bigger as the cone gets taller. Starting from the big bang at the cone's apex, the spatial part of the universe gets bigger as time goes by, which is the increasing height of the ice cream cone. The tesseract refers to four spacelike dimensions (Euclidean).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercone

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>> No.15180017

>>15172121
is there a 5d gif of that?

>> No.15180436

>>15177111
checked and there's also the hypersphere

>> No.15181693

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by8eAnez0i8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ad9y0FmQ9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POzuXyuF9DQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbq9uX_MycY

>> No.15183222

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>> No.15183228

>>15172121
What the hell is a tesseract? Did you pick this up from a Marvel movie?

>> No.15183284

>>15172121
Your mom's bunghole is the only portal massive enough to allow dimensional convergence.

>> No.15183296

>>15181693
4D Mario

>> No.15183307

>>15173288
yeah I'm beginning to think quantum mechanics and 4d are mathematical shams that people yap about to get other people to fix their cars and flip burgers but i don't know any better right now