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How does /sci/ explain the incredible architecture of Eoropean civilizations?

>> No.15171612

>>15171611
What is there to explain?

>> No.15171613

>>15171611
Colonialism, imperialism, chauvinism, exploitation of people of color, etc.

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>>15171611
Christianity. Comapre and contrast with atheist architecture.

>> No.15171620

>>15171611
it's funny because gothic architecture was named gothic because it was seen by contemporaries as barbarous and ugly

>> No.15171622

>>15171611
Alien culture stolen by the Egyptians and rediscovered/stolen by ancient England.

>> No.15171623

>>15171620
>it was seen by contemporaries as barbarous and ugly
Those "contemporaries" being who?

>> No.15171625

>>15171620
>if only they knew how bad things were gonna be

>> No.15171631

>>15171623
Being some guys who lived later during the renaissance. The actual contemporaries called it the french art.

>> No.15171634

>>15171611
Just as the Egyptians didn't build the pyramids, medieval folks didn't build the cathedrals and palaces, they've just found it and used it.

>> No.15171637

>>15171634
That's why the glass, paintings, and stonework depict christianity, right?

>> No.15171638

>>15171637
Jesus was an alien. His miracles were alien technology.

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>> No.15171648

>>15171639
If stealing architecture was possible, niggers would have stolen it like they steal everything else.

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>>15171614
Here's your le Christian architecture.

>> No.15171653

>>15171651
Your corporate narrative has no traction here. Back to preddit, child rapist.

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>>15171648
Niggers only know how to stack adobe. Can't even stack rocks like sand niggers in Egypt.

>> No.15171656

>>15171648
Stealing as in "intentionally erasing the part of history where the middle east influenced Europe"

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>construction started in 1882
>still not finished
they should have used medieval technology instead

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>>15171658
>integrating """modern""" influences into it

>> No.15171663

>>15171656
>Stealing as in [not stealing]
It's all so tiresome. Why do you even bother? You can tell what political ideology the literally-who author has just from the inflammatory anti-white, anti-european title of the book.

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>>15171611
Temples and complex structures have always been a thing inside and outside of Europe. Grandiose structures are useful to legitimate non-democratic rulers and scare potential invaders (signals power and capability of mobilizing many people to a task).

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>>15171666
>Grandiose structures are useful to legitimate non-democratic rulers
Diseased.

>> No.15171677

>>15171656
So what would be "intetionally exaggerating the part of history where the middle east influenced Europe" ?
Because islamic architecture didn't "shape europe".

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>>15171674
Where is your cathedral at, Anon?

>> No.15171679

>>15171678
What are you on about, you diseased NPC?

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>>15171613
>Colonialism, imperialism, chauvinism, exploitation of people of color, etc.

>> No.15171687

>>15171611
Catenary arches? Yes.

>> No.15171689

>>15171677
Literally every early Renaissance mathematician or physicist read translations of Arabic works.

>> No.15171690

>>15171689
And?

>> No.15171691

>>15171666
>Temples and complex structures have always been a thing inside and outside of Europe. Grandiose structures are useful to legitimate non-democratic rulers and scare potential invaders (signals power and capability of mobilizing many people to a task).
Try sucking less cocks faggot

>> No.15171697

>>15171691
He can't. Deepthroating outsiders is the central pillar of his whole being.

>> No.15171715

>>15171614
So all those buildings are dedicated to revering atheism?

>> No.15171717

>>15171715
No, but their design is informed by atheistic culture and conforms to atheistic "values" (i.e. no values).

>> No.15171720

>>15171689
Yes, and how is it shaping europe ? Do you think you could make a book titled "STEALING FROM THE GREEKS - how greek architecture shaped the islamic world" because arab mathematicians read greek mathematicians ?

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>>15171717
>their design is informed by atheistic culture
You mean jewish.

http://www.katarxis3.com/Alexander_Eisenman_Debate.htm
PE: I am not preaching disharmony. I am suggesting that disharmony might be part of the cosmology that we exist in. I am not saying right or wrong. My children live with an unconscious fear that they may not live out their natural lives. I am not saying that fear is good. I am trying to find a way to deal with that anxiety. An architecture that puts its head in the sand and goes back to neoclassicism, and Schinkel, Lutyens, and Ledoux, does not seem to be a way of dealing with the present anxiety. Most of what my colleagues are doing today does not seem to be the way to go. Equally, I do not believe that the way to go, as you suggest, is to put up structures to make people feel comfortable, to preclude that anxiety. What is a person to do if he cannot react against anxiety or see it pictured in his life? After all, that is what all those evil Struwwel Peter characters are for in German fairy tales.

CA: Don't you think there is enough anxiety at present? Do you really think we need to manufacture more anxiety in the form of buildings?

PE: Let me see if I can get it to you another way. Tolstoy wrote about the man who had so many modern conveniences in Russia that when he was adjusting the chair and the furniture, etc., that he was so comfortable and so nice and so pleasant that he didn't know -- he lost all control of his physical and mental reality. There was nothing. What I'm suggesting is that if we make people so comfortable in these nice little structures of yours, that we might lull them into thinking that everything's all right, Jack, which it isn't. And so the role of art or architecture might be just to remind people that everything wasn't all right. And I'm not convinced, by the way, that it is all right.

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>>15171720
Ummm no, sweaty. This kind of reasoning only applies when I feel like it, and I only feel like applying it to trivialize and question European culture.

>> No.15171727

>>15171722
>You mean jewish.
It's literally the same thing.

>> No.15171740

>>15171720
>Do you think you could make a book titled "STEALING FROM THE GREEKS - how greek architecture shaped the islamic world" because arab mathematicians read greek mathematicians ?
No Islamic author denies they were using Greeks as a start point of their philosophical inquiries. In fact they had great respect for them.

>> No.15171763

>>15171740
Why didn't you answer his question as stated, filthby kike?

>> No.15171769

>>15171658
Gothic often cathedrals took centuries to be built, and that's without the confines of labour rights and safety restrictions.

>> No.15171772

>>15171720
I wasn't aware Egypt was in Europe

>> No.15171778

>>15171772
I wasn't aware reddit was in 4chan.

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>>15171611
this is st. peter's basilica.
each letter in the inscriptions is 2 meters tall
construction started in 1505 and it continued for 120 years

i am so fucking proud of being european

>> No.15171828

Stay on >>>/his/

>> No.15171831

>>15171826
I hope the rest of your temples burn to the ground like notre dame for raping and pillaging my people during the crusades.

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>>15171831
>the west has been spending trillions of dollars in fucking the middles east over for centuries now

i am even more proud now

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>>15171831
>I hope the rest of your temples burn to the ground like notre dame for raping and pillaging my people during the crusades.
Who are "your people"?

>> No.15171841

>>15171837
Cope. We have integrated into your population centres. Your governments actively promote our wellfare and welcome us in. You will all burn.

>> No.15171864

>>15171841
Why are you astroturfing so poorly polack?

>> No.15172131

>>15171841
do you even know what happens when you piss off Europeans just a bit?

>> No.15172137

dutton says christianity selected for genius

>> No.15172265

>>15171611
high intelligence and ambition.

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>>15171778
Egypt did big temples first

>> No.15172273

>>15172131
they file a complaint?

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>>15172269
Ooops.

>> No.15172284

>>15172277
So what? They were not in europe

>> No.15172285

>>15172284
>So what?
So OP's question remains valid.

>> No.15172289

>>15172285
OP talks abut european civilizations, not about whites in general, that also exist in the middle east and north africa and central asia

>> No.15172292

>>15172289
Filthy kike fuck off.

>> No.15172293

>>15172292
Why are you reneging?

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>>15171612
God damn I fucking love being white

>> No.15172299

>>15172293
Sorry, I'm completely immune to your loxism-driven pilpul. Back go /pol/ with this shit.

>> No.15172328

>>15172299
Your personal attacks only prove you have no argument. Egypt is not in europe and the OP talked about european civilization, you have lost the argument

>> No.15172338

>>15172328
I don't know if you're trolling or mentally ill or jewish or what. This board is beyond hope.

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>>15171722
>jewish
FIY Le Corbusier was antisemite and fascist party co-founder

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kike chimp out thread lolololol

>> No.15172376

>>15172375
>oyvey.jpg
I'm Israeli and I still kek'd.

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>>15171611
More examples of european artitecture. All this carved into a moutain in stone so basically a man made cave.

>> No.15172382 [DELETED] 

>>15172379
looks dirty like something filthy white apes would do. why does whitey hate nature so much?

>> No.15172387 [DELETED] 

>>15172382
Just paints decayed over time not actually dirty. The whole thing was once pajnted

>> No.15172388 [DELETED] 

>>15172387
whites and their low quality paints. real cultures make paint that lasts

>> No.15172390

>>15172379
Gee another arch who would have thought?

>> No.15172421

>>15172390
if it ain't broke

>> No.15173428

There's no way they could have built these things with the tools they had available at the time

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