/sci/ - Science & Math

greta btfo

>>15162873
The "global climate change cult" only points out extremes.
It's part of their brainwashing MO.

>>15162873
>carefully selected x-axis
yawn, weak.

>>15164762
data from the era preceding satellite observation is all incomplete hearsay

>>15162873
>second-weakest hurricane season in recent history
that's evidence of climate change retard

>>15165474
>c-climate changing for the better is what we meant too!

>>15165477
Fewer hurricanes does not necessarily mean better. We do not know the full consequences

>>15164762
That honestly doesn't look like a meaningful increase either. Somehow I doubt they had a full accounting of Atlantic storm energies in the mid 19th century.

>>15165501
I thought climate change was supposed to intensify storms? When did the WEF send out the new talking points sheet?

>>15165501
hurricane activity is instigated by increased sunspot activity, there isn't any measured correlation between global warming and hurricanes. one would presume that global warming would have some effect of hurricane activity, but it does not in any measurable way. its almost as if global warming doesn't exist at all. sunspots have a statistically significant measured impact

>>15162873
What did the scientific papers actually say about that matter in, say, the 1970s-1990s?

>>15165626
OP either doesn't know or pretends not to because he's a cherry picking faggot

>>15162873
any cloimate change cultist could explain this? I thought we are heading into apocalypses

>>15166446
See >>15165626 and >>15165868

>>15165525
>I thought climate change was supposed to intensify storms? When did the WEF send out the new talking points sheet?
Everytime they want more money or power. Which is always.

>>15164762
The later years include satellite observations of storms that formed over the ocean and never made landfall.

>>15164762
>>15168870
This is also only the Atlantic basin, op's chart is global and presumably includes all five hurricane basins.

>>15162873
So what? Doesn't look statistically significant. I'm not opposed to some climate alarmism but this is nothing.

>>15165474
Everything is evidence of climate change, now cut your penis to save the planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yP1tcy9a10

>>15172142
Global map reddening is the greatest threat facing the Western world.

>>15170590

>>15165474
>second-weakest hurricane season in recent history
that's evidence that climate change is a good thing, retard

>>15162873
Yes, anyone with a brain knows that "extreme weather events will become more common" is an oversimplification and total cope.
We truly do not know exactly what impact climate change will have on climate systems because we are only just now starting to understand those systems in earnest. We can barely predict what climate systems would look like with a few degrees difference.

>>15174453
It is genuinely amusing that you've mentioned Curry in an extreme weather-related thread. Why don't we check some of her papers? Among her most influential papers are:

[1] Webster et al (2005) "Changes in Tropical Cyclone Number, Duration, and Intensity in a Warming Environment"

The paper finds an increase in cat. 4+5 hurricanes, and a "30-year trend toward more frequent and intense hurricanes [...] This trend is not inconsistent with recent climate model simulations that a doubling of CO2 may increase the frequency of the most intense cyclones".
Still, authors do point out more data is needed to attribute the hurricane trend to global warming.

[2] Liu et al. (2012) "Impact of declining Arctic sea ice on winter snowfall"

This paper highlights the issue of a strongly warming Arctic, and the authors "conclude that the recent decline of Arctic ice has played a critical role in recent cold and snowy winters."

Also, "The results of this study add to an increasing body of both observational and modeling evidence that indicates diminishing Arctic sea ice plays a critical role in driving recent cold and snowy winters over large parts of North America, Europe, and east Asia."

>>15175059
>(2005)
>(2012)
old news, the science has changed substantially in the past decade

>>15175609
>no sources at all
Ok bud.

>>15175702
The Speed of Science doesn't require peer review.

>>15175706
Cool. BTW, Judith Curry's papers conclude that global warming may be linked to an increasing number of strong cyclones, and that global warming plays a critical role in cold and snowy winters in North America, Europe, and east Asia.

>>15168872
>all five hurricane basins.
why limit it to the northern hemisphere?

>>15175727
So since they aren't increasing Global Warming is debunked.

>>15176481
But they are - strong cyclones are indeed increasing.

>Here the homogenized global TC [tropical cyclone] intensity record is extended to the 39-y period 1979–2017, and statistically significant (at the 95% confidence level) increases are identified. Increases and trends are found in the exceedance probability and proportion of major (Saffir−Simpson categories 3 to 5) TC intensities, which is consistent with expectations based on theoretical understanding and trends identified in numerical simulations in warming scenarios.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1920849117

>>15176577
>1979-2017
Dropped.

>>15176580
>no sources at all
You seem upset.

>>15176587
Why would I be? It's not like I believe in some silly doomsday preacher. I just like laughing at people who do.

>>15176600
>It's not like I believe in some silly doomsday preacher.
Strawman. Come back when you have some relevant papers for me to check

>>15164762
>We had really accurate methods of measuring cyclone energy in 1851.
Please, bitch. Just stop lying. Just stop.
Your chart is based on FINANCIAL damage, utterly neglecting the fact that we have far more infrastructure now, and leftards like you run up their claims anyway to milk more government emergency funds.
That chart is fucking meaningless.

>>15168356
>pic
To be fair, when I imagine myself as a dictator of the world, I always also make up a bullshit excuse for why it is totally necessary.

>>15162921

>>15177179
thanks for telling us all about your ridiculous cringe power fantasies and highlighting how helpless you must feel in irl in order to be driven to have such a cringe fantasy life

>>15180358
The average warmist is like that. Don't worry about it, they'll never get power.