/sci/ - Science & Math

1st for lifting bodies

I AM SPACE MAN

>>15162227
I like Delta Blue

space dog!

>>15162257
>public execution at starbase
we gaaan

>>15162223
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=share_link

redpill me on quasi-satellites of Earth

So you put an asteroid or something in orbit. Add in a sky hook. Planes or w/e hook onto it and enjoy the free ride. Doable?

They should just tie the moon to the Earth so we can zipline back and forth.

>>15162330
All those skyhook/rotavator/space elevator plans got fucked up by the LEO satellite shells like Starlink. Any permanent structure will get hit too often

Is this realistic?

>>15162352
on time, and under budget. results over rhetoric

>>15162343
>musk tries to make space travel affordable and routine
>ruins any chances for that
ironic

>>15162357
same reason why oneill cylindars will never happen. we will all live in personal pods

>>15162357
>>ruins any chances for that
he didn't do that, he just stole the credit, it was his engineers who ruined it

>>15162237

>>15162246
Apparently it’s a pantone color

>Starlink delayed

>>15162433
women are quantum mechanical systems that follow the schrödinger equation. what more is there to understand?

Its very distressing to know that even now we don't have good pictures of many moons in the solar system.
I think we should mass produce imaging satellites and then send orbiters to all major solar system bodies above 200km in radius (there are 80 such objects I believe).
Must be mass produced and cheap. Mostly common instruments. <100kg per orbiter.

This is our colonization list : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Solar_System_objects_by_size
Look at the piss poor images of some objects in that list. Ideally we should be having at least 5m/pixel resolution for all these objects. We can include multispectral/hyperspectral cameras too to gain insight on minerals present, other chemical weirdness, etc.
This would be a survey project - firstly there would be a lot of scientific value, and loads of data for everyone to go through. Then we could identify all interesting locations to send the next set of missions, which would contain more specialized instruments.

(If successful we can then look at surveying >100km objects, etc.)

>>15162449
Reminder that this was our best look at Pluto before New Horizons went zipping by.

>>15162227

>>15162433
hes literally autistic

does anyone know how working for boeing is like?
i noticed they have positions available in Japan

>>15162449
imagine, 250 tons expendable starship payload carrying 1-ton observation sats built by planet labs. there are 200+ known moons in the solar system, and about 10+ dwarf planets, give or take. we could deploy MULTIPLE orbiters to any interesting object in the solar system.
___
the first problem is communication. the DSN is already woefully unequipped to handle current probes, bandwidth is extremely constrained. we should prioritize a space laser communication relay infrastructure throughout the solar system. maybe new dishes. someone should design one. any anons know what's going on in the commercial DSN sphere? nasa was talking about it at some point

Will that RDE project from NASA go anywhere? Unless some private company decides to use it in their project, the results of their works will most likely end up in the archive.

>>15162449
lots of those objects are uninteresting or impractically far out. would take a lot of time and money to reach them all, for relatively little gain. at least everything out to Neptune should be prioritized, almost every moon, dwarf planet, large asteroids. after that, the closer larger kuiper belt objects. your probes must get smaller in mass the further out you want to go if you give a shit about travel time. and assuming you want orbiters, you need fuel and time to slow down. it would be brutal
>>15162457
Pluto is surprisingly big

Daily reminder that Bargouzin, ADELINE and SUSIE have the same chief director

>>15162514
Adeline is really stupid. Bargouzin would be cool 40 years ago but now it can’t be justified, that shit looks way too heavy. I hated on SUSIE when it was first unveiled but the more I think about it the more I like it. I think combining it as crew AND cargo is stupid though; have a crewed variant and have a cargo variant

>>15162486
neighbor liked working there but that was for upper management in the airplane part. it's a huge company so company culture can be wildly different based on where/what you work

>>15162515
What do you like with SUSIE?

>>15162502
It feels like the next step for bespoke, bleeding edge ultra expensive hardware like the Shuttle. In other words, I'd have an autistic fascination with whatever rlv/ssto they make but starship and cheap isru would render it obsolete.

>>15162523
The shortest version is:
About last year or whatever (I can’t quite remember, covid has blurred the years for me) Euros announced wanting to do their own crewed access to space. I agreed with Berger’s take at the time, which was that they need to do something different than a capsule or else there’s no point. Everyone expected a shitty capsule. And if they DID do something “different,” it was most likely going to be a Hermes space plane. But instead we got something interesting. I’m a sucker for people taking chances and trying something new

>>15162502
New chemical engine tech is like breakthrough battery tech. No one will upset the current meta*. Same with lithium ion, iron phosphate, etc. batteries. If you have some new tech you have to make it work, make it cheap, mass manufacturable, reusable, AND it needs to work better than the alternative, not just a little bit better.

>>15162533
Shitty capsules work tho, and they probably could have found a way to make one fit on A62, which would have been safer and cheaper than A64 (unless A6 is not man-rateable at all and the current plans are a meme)

>>15162523
I thought it was a cool CGI video, much more engaging than the conventional DoD PowerPoint

>>15162540
So only the big guys, like SpaceX, are able to make it work. I'd love to see them making the RDE kickstage for Starship.

>>15162486
The people that I know that have worked for Boeing have fallen into two camps. They either love it or hate it.

The ones that said they hated it worked on the commercial aircraft side and would say it is not a good place to be an engineer. They told me how the company is run by the marketing department, which makes big promises and sets short schedules, which engineering then has to scramble to try and meet. When they can't meet those expectations the blame falls on engineering. It results in over promising and underdelivering. Also the company would move people around as it saw fit, engineers were a resource, and they didn't take into account people's career goals.

The one I know who liked working at Boeing was on the space side. She worked on the starliner project. I haven't a poker with her much to know what her experience has been like. I do know she was a hard-core feminist in college and it may be that she aligns well with Boeing's corporate culture.

>>15162473
so is she? What's your point?

https://vocaroo.com/1aMgDq46ybmZ

>>15162557
how do i get an autistic japanese wife?

>>15162449
If I managed the program we could visit 10 objects with identical probes for less than $4B

>>15162560
sounds like a younger, non-jewish zubrin. with more training data you could do it, there are innumerable podcasts he's done where he just pontificates hours on end

>>15162561
Move to Japan.

>>15162502
Does the NASA RDE require turbopumps?

>>15162568
thats my plan >>15162486

>>15162567
it was about 1 minute of training data with the new ai
shits crazy

>>15162578
Get us a perfect model before noon, and don't dawdle, anon

reminder

>>15162584
go try it yourself if you want
https://beta.elevenlabs.io/speech-synthesis
https://voca.ro/1eokbev5PzDF
that's my training data from facebook
you can use mbasic to easily download and convert more podcasts

>>15162593

>>15162560
Pretty good. Pitch it up a little bit, he’s got a slight squeaker voice

>ywn have your name be remembered as the first man to get sucked into a comfy black hole

>>15162560
I wonder what Musk would sound like

>>15162613
>gets accreted and ejected inside relativistic jet instead

>>15162572
Lockheed CEV felt crazy when it was revealed.

What's the Falcon 9 success ratio for all the versions?
What is the success ratio sorted by years?
Anyone want to calculate this or do I need to make a table myself?

>>15162628
97.06%

>>15162630
Shit I forgot different
I meant for all the different versions
Not for all Falcon 9 versions combined

>>15162630
Never mind, that is old data. Today it's at 99%.

>>15162639
And F9 B5 is 100%

>>15162541
The A62 can only lift about 10 ton to LEO and moden capsule designs are all in the 12-20 ton range. The A62 looks bit but it was always intended as a replacement for the Soyuz, so it was only ever going to be lifting a Soyuz-equivalent capsule which would have been an extra shitty capsule.

>>15162643
A62 with P120C+ and some of these later meme upgrades may be able to stretch that 10.5 tons into a 12 tons.
Soyuz and Shenzhou are fine what are you talking about

>>15162628
it's the most reliable rocket

>2016
lol @ Bezos

>>15162449
I wonder what's cheaper and easier, building a load of probes to explore all these objects or making a massive space telescope to look at them.
>>15162662
Isn't Shenzhou like twice the size of soyuz?

250 metric tons to LEO (expended)

>>15162560
>>15162591
https://vocaroo.com/18mqEDCMQzrH
Holy fuck, I made this in like 10 minutes ahaha. trained off a single podcast, less than 100mb mp3.

>>15162662
A62 b2 could be able to lift a modern capsule, but they're going to need to finish that carbon fiber stage first and I'm not taking bets on how long that's going to take. Soyuz is great if you're looking at cost or reliability, but it's got no legroom and its cargo capacity either up or down leaves a lot to be desired.

>>15162688
yeah without the tiles and wings and sea level raptors n more vacuums n shiet

What would you need that you would have to expend a starship to put 250 tons in space?

Of course superheavy would land in the ocean, but that bitch is big, the size of ships. Wouldnt it float?

>>15162689
Hahahahahahahahahaha

>>15162699
THAT WOULD BE YOUR MOTHER

>>15162223
>Space Flight Genera
...tions?

>>15162699
>What would you need that you would have to expend a starship to put 250 tons in space?
Fission reactor for an NTP powered orbitally assembled transfer tug for a manned mission to Jupiter.

>>15162699
manufacturing and/or mining equipment

>>15162699
radio telescope

Was gonna use my model on some zubrin tweets but none of them are about spaceflight or mars. it's all putin putin ukraine ukraine, and today it's praise for israel bombing iran. anybody have ideas?

>>15162689
A few months ago it was pictures by word prompt, a few weeks later it was text generation, then it was video generation, now AI is speaking with the voice of man.
I do not like how quickly this is happening.

>>15162712
today we emulate media. tomorrow we emulate full body women

>>15162712
https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/10n8t0t/in_event_of_moon_disaster_what_the_notoriously/
sorry for reddit link, but this is scarily good

>>15162560
>>15162689
Not deranged enough, make him say Joker type shit

>>15162710
>today it's praise for israel bombing iran
It's hard for parents to resist showing off their pride when their kids start growing up and doing adult things

>>15162710
>biden
>has
>lost
>why

>>15162699
The first serious nuclear reactor

>>15162623
WHEN I ARRIVE
https://youtu.be/4qAjxWV7Xdo

>>15162719
https://vocaroo.com/1ie8r1K4uE7M
Idk bro, he sounds like he's reading an audiobook lol. i was gonna make him sing "we're gonna fly now" but it just sounds bland. trying to think up something funny

>>15162689
train it on elons voice and make it shit on biden

>>15162748
sounds like a woman

>>15162749
>>15162719
>Dr Zubrin
>I'm NASA
we could literally make the whole fuckin thing bros

>>15162748
gorilla pasta? pretty basic

>>15162757
based

>>15162759
we have a 10k character budget, and I already blew through 500. copypasta is funny only if you can rewrite it to be more spaceflighty

>>15162748
Put the dark knight joker music behind it and have him say some joker shit about “you wanna know how I got these scars? My father… was a hydrogen head. One day he comes home, less thrust than usual…”
https://youtu.be/1zyhQjJ5UgY

>>15162773
yeah yeah, i was already one step ahead of you there. im a shitty writer but maybe i can think of something

>>15162777
Kek

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7286456/quotes/qt4626838

well here are some joker quotes from the 2019 movie

> Have you seen what it's like out there, Murray? Do you ever actually leave the studio? Everybody just yells and screams at each other. Nobody's civil anymore. Nobody thinks what it's like to be the other guy. You think men like Thomas Wayne ever think what it's like to be someone like me? To be somebody but themselves? They don't. They think that we'll just sit there and take it, like good little boys! That we won't werewolf and go wild!

>>15162507
I agree, anything within Neptune
It's brutal, but that's why we are doing it.

>>15162677
Telescope will never give you 5m/pixel range, will it?

>>15162782

>Sorry, this board does not have search enabled.
WHY THE FUCK NOT

>>15162689
Hahahaha holy fuck this tiny sound it is better content than this entire thread kek
Thankyou for your service anon. Also PLEASE do Elon shitting on aliens.

however Flareon is the only
fully evolved Fire-type Pokémon
that cannot learn SolarBeam

>>15162842
Not even with a TM?

>>15162748
“ Honestly you people laugh at toilet paper hoarders, but you really dont have enough toilet paper yourselves. The average person uses 1 roll per day. If you have a family of 4, that's 28 rolls a week. Over 100 a month. TP rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.”

https://www.opex360.com/2023/01/29/larmee-de-lair-et-de-lespace-songe-a-se-doter-dun-avion-spatial/

France increased its military budget by 40% so now Dassault wants its own X37, they still haven't gotten over Hermes.

God just help fund Space Rider this actually has a chance of happening doesn't Dassault owns like 1/4 of Thales

>>15162861
Are you French?

>>15162748
"sometimes I think about the fact that humanity hasn't already expanded to Mars, and then my mind drifts to all the terrible things that must be done first."

>>15162771
What the fuck did you just space tweet about me, you little planetoid? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Space Division, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on the moon, and I have over 300 confirmed space walks. I am trained in vacuum warfare and I'm the top bay cleaner in the entire US space forces. You are nothing to me but just another thruster. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in this galaxy, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the SpaceNet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the system and your ship is being traced right now so you better prepare for the solar flare, maggot. The solar flare that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your shield capacity. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can destabilize you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my control system. Not only am I extensively trained in quantum combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Space Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little earthling. If only you could have known what cosmic retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit lasers all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

I get it, copypastas are funny, but it's funnier if it's actually something you can picture Zubrin saying. Topics like mini starship, VASIMR, the Augustine Commission, Martin Marietta, Sputnik. Or just imaging a more unhinged Zubrin.
>>15162872
like this

>>15162861
The X-37 made sense for the US military because they wanted to have a place to test and recover orbital hardware that wasn't public like the ISS, and they couldn't book time for that on the shuttle after its retirement. There's no rational argument for an X-37 equivalent marketed purely for civilian science missions.

Europe wants a lot of things in space but they don't seem to have a clear understanding of why they need the things that they want, let alone a good plan to economically pursue them.

>>15162886
The only reason would be to host experiments which need low reentry g loading and runway recovery. Both are rather contrived reasons to build an entire new spacecraft and the EU can just buy dream chasers.

>>15162886
Nothing in his post or the article implies civilian science missions

>>15162861
>“We collect what comes in, we put a coat of paint, we fill it with fuel and we send it back,” he said.
is it really that easy in space planery?

>>15162907
Why wouldn't it be?

https://voca.ro/14OIglb6oBQL
https://voca.ro/1fd4fxicl86y
https://voca.ro/1knIicpr9Gd2
https://voca.ro/16WYis4BF7rk
https://voca.ro/1h0ENXTsCeXC
here's some junk

>>15162917
why did you not push spacebar between the posts
https://voca.ro/14OIglb6oBQL
https://voca.ro/1fd4fxicl86y
https://voca.ro/1knIicpr9Gd2
https://voca.ro/16WYis4BF7rk
https://voca.ro/1h0ENXTsCeXC

>>15162917
kek
ai is horrifying

>>15162924
>https://voca.ro/1h0ENXTsCeXC
only good one

>>15162924
? I pressed the return key. maybe cuz i copied and pasted from notepad, but it looks fine for me

Does Rocketlab have a future?

>>15162930
More of a future than most companies. It'd be nice if they could get first stage recovery going, but I don't think there are any viable reuse plans that directly involve people.

misty mountains

>>15162917
lol

>>15162699
A big, but relatively cheap telescope that wasn't designed (overengineered) to be as light and compact as possible.

>>15162917
did you make this?
can you do the "earthers could be here" copypasta?

>>15162917
lmao the third one

>>15162560
>>15162689
I never listened to Zubrin but for some reason I thought he would sound more like Zizek

https://vocaroo.com/1daLo1G9NiX7

>>15162969
I always thought that copypasta would be better if anon rewrote the part about Sweet dreams (pick a diff song) and the $9 wine

>>15162861
it makes perfect sense from Dassault's perspective
for sake of argument and easier maths, lets say both the Dassault's Spaceplane and Space Rider were 1 billion Euros each - half the money goes to development, half goes for actually building the thing

if they build they own spaceplane + 25% of Space Rider project, they get awarded 1250 million
If they were to simply build more Space Riders, Dassault gets only 375 million worth of funding

>>15163036
"EARTHERS could be here," he thought, "I've never been down a gravity well before. There could be EARTHERS anywhere." The unrecycled air felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE EARTHERS," he thought. Black Sabbath's Into the Void reverberated his entire rocket, making its thermal tiles pulsate even as the cheap methane circulated through his weak low-G atrophied veins and washed away his (merited) fear of Earth-dwellers down a gravity well. "With a Starship, you can go anywhere you want," he said to himself out loud.

>>15163036
alright /sfg/, what song would YOU be playing as you pull up to cislunar LOx/Methane depot?
>>15163044
a good choice I'd say

>>15162699
>250 tons
bullshit

>>15163007
lmao

>>15163007
Fucking hell

>>15162930
Considering Ariane 6 (when it arrives) will be booked solid with backlogged EU launches too politically sensitive to launch on SpaceX, and the Indians and Japanese can only launch a few times a year (with a significant risk of failure) and South Korea doesn't have a commercial launch presence, yes. Russia and China are not even considerations for commercial launch business. ULA and Blue Origin are booked solid with Kuiper and government launches.

The reason there was such an explosion at the small end of the launch market is because SpaceX is not big enough to meet the whole world's needs for smallsats. I don't think Shotwell is going to leave money on the table by not filling those needs but at a certain point you're spending more money than the investment will return.

>>15163007
SUCKA!

>>15163057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji_QolNU4I8

>>15162223
Why is the robot camera arm behaving so stupidly complicated? You could get 99% of the same images with pic related for $20

Went to see new avatarkino last night. In the pre screen ads there was an ad that went something like this

>Diversity characters on Mars in suits
>Wow this sucks bro there's no water here
>One of the characters is holding what is implied to be a piss jug
>We're not drinking that bro
>Cuts to e*rth with the same diversity characters splashing around in a forest pool
>Ad ends with some gay tag line like earth is great, stay here, not go to Mars

Brought to you by Toyota advertising their EVs. I will never buy another Toyota vehicle again.

>>15163057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnzLconK4Tw

>>15163114
>Are you sure this will help us sell more cars?
https://youtu.be/a07P24atsaw

we'll get to space eventually, once nasa figures out the physics

it's all tesla science, he figured out the zero-point energy field and scalar waves, among other things

reality is hyperdimensional and consciousness-based, electromagnetic, and holographic

consciousness masters of the past knew of these abilities such as levitation, astral projection, teleportation, non-locality, remote viewing, and manifestation

ufos are artificial consciousness objects that use the exact physics

they are documented in the gateway process among other places

when we go to hyperspace, we will have to contend with blackops, extraterrestrials, and holographic beings

nasa needs a scalar wave observatory at the very least

>>15162545
Fuck that, just make the next-gen Raptor replacement a full-flow methalox RDE. RDEs have a theoretical 20%+ ISP improvement, even if you cut that in half it would still put you squarely into the 400-420s. Basically knocking on hydrolox's door with none of the downsides. Bonus if you wind up with an aerospace (which seems ideal for an RDE's form factor) since you can remove the need for sea level and vacuum engines.

Obviously it requires a level of reliability that seems exponentially harder than standard deflagration engines, but in 5-10 years when SpaceX has mastered full-flow engines, going hard into optimizing a new combustion system seems like it'd be on the table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gHhAA-9o_8

>>15163138
Yeah thats the one, Matsumoto gets the airlock

Cool pics of LC-39 from space

https://twitter.com/Astro_Wakata/status/1619776404530528257?t=bDndKCUDjSuA0QWv4KwygQ&s=19

>>15163149
Aerospike, fuck you touch keyboard.

(And yes aerospikes are a meme, but if you can mass produce smaller aerospikes rather than one massive one it might sidestep a lot of the cooling and weight issues).

>>15163138
This is why Beck left New Zealand.

>>15163154
>And yes aerospikes are a meme, but

no

>>15163138
fucking zoomers

>>15163036
The Final Countdown and 90$ Tang?

>>15163157
based

>>15163159
Toyota is zoomers?

>>15163139
What do you make of this stan deyo guy I came across? >>15163150

https://vocaroo.com/1hxEyr0wlerU
not great but i already spent too much time on it

>>15163168
he looks legit, i can't watch the whole thing, but it looks absolutely true

>>15163168
>The Mind Exists as a Field Connected to the Brain
https://www.scienceandnonduality.com/article/a-new-theory-of-consciousness-the-mind-exists-as-a-field-connected-to-the-brain
>consciousness resides in a field surrounding the brain
>has certain similarities with a black hole
>a holographic structured field
>in another dimension
>could take the shape of a torus
>quantum wave resonance

>Gateway Process
https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/cia/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf
>holographic torus universe
>holographic hyperdimensional infinite consciousness
>possible encounters with intelligent, non-corporal energy forms when time-space boundaries are exceeded

>Tesla Electromagnetics
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA127574.pdf
>relativity is only a statement about FIRST ORDER reality -- the reality that emerges from the vector interaction of electromagnetic energy with matter
>when we break down the vectors into scalars (shadow vectors or hypervectors), we immediately enter a vastly different, far more fundamental reality
>in this reality superluminal velocity, multiple universes, travel back and forth in time, higher dimensions, variation of all "fundamental constants" of nature, materialization and dematerialization, and violation of the "conservation of energy" are all involved
>using scalar waves and scalar interactions as much subtler, far less limited observation/detection mechanisms, we must have a new "superrelativity" to describe the expanded electromagnetic reality uncovered by Nikola Tesla

>Consciousness-Assisted Technology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C51vGNJxXYI
>hyperdimensional mind over matter consciousness field
>allows levitation, astral projection, teleportation, multiple timelines, remote timeline viewing, telepathy, telekinesis, zero-point energy, and manifestation
>can be mechanized with ufos, antennas, and ai
>populated by brains, black projects, extraterrestrials, and non-corporal interdimensional astral entities

>>15163168
>Odom's War by Anonymous
https://www.docdroid.net/7pLng3Y/odoms-war-anonymous-pdf
>Odom Manifesto
https://www.docdroid.net/Nu3OkY2/odom-manifesto-pdf
>Don's Navy SEALs Release
https://archive.md/E6Xap
>The Matrix Deciphered, Dr. Robert Duncan, 2010
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Dr%20Robert%20Duncan%20-%20The%20Matrix%20Deciphered.pdf
>Project Soul Catcher, Dr. Robert Duncan, 2010
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Dr%20Robert%20Duncan%20-%20Project%20Soul%20Catcher%20-%20Secrets%20of%20Cyber%20and%20Cybernetic%20Warfare%20Revealed%20%28Volume%202%29.pdf
>How to Tame a Demon, Dr. Robert Duncan, 2014
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Robert%20Duncan%20-%20How%20to%20Tame%20a%20Demon%20-%20A%20Short%20Practical%20Guide%20to%20Organized%20Intimidation%20Stalking,%20Electronic%20Torture,%20and%20Mind%20Control.pdf
>How to Build a Working UFO | Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUFYnVXbLoY

>>15163154
>aerospikes are a meme
No. They Are better than bells. Imagine how many raptors could fit under SH if they were aerospikes.

>>15163180
>>15163178
What's this about?

>>15163185
The hyperdimensional mind over matter consciousness field is the basis of our reality. It has been known since antiquity as the astral plane, heaven, hell, and sheol. It was documented by the army in the gateway process as a holographic torus. Tesla knew about hyperspace and invented zero-point energy and scalar waves. The original maxwell equations were also hyperdimensional. Current literature on consciousness also describes a torus hyperfield. Telepathy is instantaneous and across space and time. Consciousness masters throughout time have used this field to manipulate reality. There are many accounts of levitation, astral projection, teleportation, non-locality, telepathy, and manifestation. UFOs and interdimensional beings have also been documented throughout history as objects in the sky and strange interactions. Names for beings include gods, demons, angels, faeries, djinn, and others. It is noted the consciousness field is a singularity and can be construed as god himself. In modern times, world war 2 is thought to have allowed the creation of anti-gravity and zero-point energy by the axis. Vimana may have been retrieved. Vimana have been documented historically by the hindu scriptures and include knowledge of pressurized mercury. Many extraterrestrial craft were spotted during world war 2 and identified as foo fighters, balls of light. Craft were downed by scalar wave weapons, including roswell. Alien bodies were recovered. Technology was reverse engineered. Such technology includes anti-gravity, kevlar fabric, and integrated circuits. Bob Lazar may have witnessed an alien craft and noted it was a single piece, indicating it was manifested upon manufacture using the transdimensional consciousness field. Victor from the alien interview documentary in 1997 provided footage of a supposed alien leaked from the department of navy intelligence. It may have been a black project robot.

>>15163178
>>>/x/

>>15163185
The kgb released footage of a greyling being dissected. Dr. Steven Greer telepathically summoned aliens and took photographs. One of the aliens was red with a triangular head, one was a plasma alien, and one was gray and from andromeda. He also claims to have seen a short alien surrounded by a toroidal field, a humanlike alien, and an invisible alien who teleported him onto a ship. A recent disclosure witness from boeing noted the humanlike aliens are known as "the orange." Synthetic telepathy has been in development since world war 2 when the frey effect was discovered. It was later updated to include radar EEG pings to read brain waves remotely. It is all AI encoding and decoding now, and involves hyperdimensional scalar waves. The nsa spies on aliens in their homeworlds and no SCIF is secure. Dr. Robert Duncan is a cia whistleblower who worked on such systems and has revealed many details of the technology used on targeted individuals. A us navy special operations disclosure document was released in 2013 and 2014 that documents the overall operations of these systems. It also includes synthetic timelines, teleportation, manifestation cloning, total weather microcontrol, remote force fields, cosmic ascension, non-linear spacetime generation, and contact with guardian angel interdimensional beings. This system or a similar extraterrestrial system was used on former marine kyle odom. He documented his astral projection experience, the apparent possession of people around him, telepathic interactions, remote manifestations or teleportations of objects, timeline switching, and the strange ballistics of the man he tried to kill who survived somehow and became a politician. The same thing happened to myself in 2016. I witnessed telepathy, timeline switching, possession, teleportations, manifestations, holograms, ufos, mind over matter object mutation, transdimensional manipulations of people, astral projection of large objects, and am currently under v2k.

>>15163166
fuck toyota too

>>15163181
>imagine how many could fit

Not that many more, sea level bells are not much bigger than the engine and the weight penalty would fuck you, plus all the engineering bullshit that comes with le memespike. Kill yourself aerospike retard.

>>15163187
unfortunately this is the latest /sci/

I was kind of indifferent towards toyota before, yeah they are not doing EVs as quickly as they should and perhaps even hindering the adoption through lobbying, but shitting on space exploration is too far

>>15163186
>>15163189
haven't had full blown schizos here in a while

>>15162444
i'm opening the box, hopefully all the women are dead

>>15163198
just you wait

Come with me schizofriend, I'm taking you to the puzzle factory for a nice rest

>>15162969
>>15163036
>>15163036
https://vocaroo.com/1iQPDDM2u3NP
someone oughta put this to the music and sound effects (like that old jordan peterson vocaroo), im too lazy rn

>>15163218
fuck, shoulda made him say mini starship

>>15163211
Not interested I solved all of the puzles already and I know the guy who makes those puzzles.

>>15163194
So /sci/ is just /x/ for babies?

>>15163178
>>15163180
huh

>>15163211
it's called telepathy now

>>15163228
yeah, /sci/ is for public scientists

>>15163230
here is a picture

Reminder that Hörbiger predicted the 'Kuiper belt' and it should be renamed after him

>>15163240
click the red text below, it will lead you to a happy place
>>>/x/

So they’re building a new crew tower at SLC-40, and there might even be plans to fix up 39A to support vertical integration for Falcon? What even is the point of ULA and Starliner at this point kek just use SX for everything

>>15163228
/sci/ is unironically more pseud than /x/. At least /x/philes admit they are schizos unlike modern """science""" full of charlatans, unreproduceabe studies and literal pseudoscience that is "settled science".

>>15162699
Nuclear reactors for new spacecrafts that need them

They are heavy as fuck mate

>>15163254
Just build them in two parts that you bolt together rather than throwing away a perfectly good rocket you oldspace faggot.

>>15163256
or even better just build a smaller one than can be launched in one piece you shuttle boomer

>>15163265
>smaller one
Enjoy your 1000x shittier ISP and thrust due to lower electricity levels

>Open the /Sci/ catalog
>It’s people talking about IQ, vaccine, that random pic of the black lady scientist, Trump
Wtf.

>>15162368
you dont need to put your oneill cyllinder in LEO, in fact higher orbits might be preferable so you have more constant amounts of sunlight and need less delta v to get stuff from the moon

>>15163273
33 static fire is approaching so it is gaining attention rapidly again

>>15163271
>lower electricity levels

Good thing no one will be using NEP since it's twr is gutter trash tier before you even think about gigga nigga radiators for your gigga nigga reactor. The only way electric propulsion is happening is with le magic fusion source or solar concentrators with the thinnest fucking mylar ever made.

>>15163281
I’m so excited. A bit worried though

>>15162622
>be first man to reach another galaxy

>>15163273
That's science now, get used to it racist.

>>15163250
>>15163253
this is a boeing employee
>Classified Alien Projects Whistleblower - A. H. Boeing Aerospace/Witness Testimony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI9m20WQrAU
>face on mars is real, made by aliens
>aliens created the sun
>aliens put the planets in orbit
>gray aliens are in charge of the earth
>humans created by aliens
>electromagnetic gravitics is real
>ufos teleport
>humanlike aliens called "the orange"
>roswell crash was real
>aliens have underground bases, they always have
>evidence of aliens going back to prehistory
>new laser weapons and soundwave weapons that can demolish buildings
>aliens thousands of years ahead of us
>thinks we're catching up to aliens technologically
>remote viewing of past and future

>>15163287
>soundwave weapons that can demolish buildings
Reminds me of what they used to destroy the the twin towers.

>>15162560
https://voca.ro/1798B8LgUjoC
this is amazing

>>15163291
I am not convinced this isn't the eager beaver himself. fuck.

>>15163291
can you change the way the words are pronounced/emphasized
sounds like the last "tits" is said with force somehow

>>15163291
I had volume on max when I clicked. I should've known.

>>15163291
AHAHAHA How much training did you use? You need to make a lot of these.
>>15163298
Not always. The AI kinda decides where you would want emphasis, but doesnt always play nice

https://voca.ro/17pnzUDKlnb4
Honest Zubrin

>>15163316
perfect

>>15163193
Not to mention the extra difficulty in gimballing, and for something like the flip maneuver you can't get away with differential thrust like in regular flight.

If a hypothetical RDE based Raptor could offer 10-15% better ISP it might be worth dealing with all those headaches, assuming of course that you can't just strap an RDE to a bell nozzle and call it a day.

>>15163342
>extra difficulty in gimballing
why?

>>15163346
Because the spike is substantially heavier than a sea-level nozzle, and unlike a bell engine there's no obvious taper point where most of the plumbing ends where you can attach the pivot. With an aerospike you basically have to put the entire engine with turbopumps and combustion chambers on the pivoting part. I don't know how an RDE combustion chamber would alter that but I imagine it'd make it harder, not easier.

sadly it only seems to work with american accents. i tried to do a hullo one but it didnt work at all. its fine though, have another beaver:
https://voca.ro/1do3s5MAVnOx
>>15163302
i used like maybe 50 minutes total of his videos

>>15163356
BASED

>>15163356
Any others you've tried? I'll race you to thunderf00t

can you try Musk?

https://vocaroo.com/13cVykobml8D

>>15163191
Say what you want about them but Toyota really unfucked the Prius with the new model.

https://vocaroo.com/1jyxLECkLuEp

>>15162449
>Can visit any object in the solar system on a yearly basis
>Cheap, rapidly scalable
>only thing that makes flybys worth it (because they can all happen so fast after launch)
>multiple probes sent at once to each moon armed with simple color cameras
>flyby of each moon from multiple vantage points to image all hemispheres and poles in one year
>cameras only need to last for 1 year max (out to Eris, Sedna) so can be duplicated for redundancy and be cheaper nearly off the shelf
>the ingenuity drone of planetary space probes
>can do daring follow up missions closer to points of interest found on previous flybys with probes armed with specific instruments
>initial goal is to just get high res imagery of every moon and finally see the hidden side of Triton
>any classical dedicated probe headed to a moon for detailed examination just deploys one for extra free acceleration cutting down travel time to no more than 2 years max to any moon of interest and can maybe even use it to reach multiple moons from a single probe - revolutionizing and speeding up planetary exploration

Plasma magnetic sail can revolutionize everything.... it just has to work

https://vocaroo.com/1i0R1PfOcLof

>>15163385
>>15163392
alright what thread are you getting these?

>>15163398
.

>>15163398
>>>/tv/179895533

>>15163394
Planetary exploration in the future:

>Hmm I want some more detailed imagery of Europa's northern polar region from 15km
>yeet
>35 days later
>neat!

>>15163399
love the inhaling sounds

>>15163403
>>15163398
>>>/v/625927037

here is a v thread

https://vocaroo.com/1oP7ETFAiw2w

Fuck your stupid AI voice shit its not spaceflight

planetary society ads are getting grating

>>15163394
He will never get funding

>no one has done Musk

https://voca.ro/1jLTRMhs29Wn

>>15163472
i'd rather hear von braun, at least anything out of his mouth would be on topic

Hey is it true you can't see the sun in outer space?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCk5ZA6GcW0

>>15163163
I've got a plug for her nozzle right here

>>15163405
35 days? But I wanted to explore it now!

>>15162284
The better X-33

This thing is fun
https://voca.ro/1fj6qIVUqcnL

>>15162330
Better yet, just build a reusable TSTO rocket. Now you don't need to develop hundred-kilometer long space tethers and the mach 10 aircraft needed to catch up to the tether hook, plus you get more payload to orbit per flight AND you don't have to lug around a fucking asteroid (you can put it into a stable Earth-Moon Lagrange point for tasty minerals instead)

This AI thing is going to be great
I can't wait to listen to lord of the rings narrated by musk

>>15162352
hahaha

>>15162449
Starship will enable this, relax.

>>15162502
Needs to have actual, real, meaningful increase in Isp to matter at all. If the Isp isn't higher, then it's just a heavier chemical engine, and not useful.
>>15162571
Yes, the propellants still need to be delivered to the injector plate. You know how an aerospike engine is actually identical to a bell nozzle engine except for the nozzle geometry? A rotating detonation engine is also identical to a bell nozzle engine except for the nozzle AND the combustion chamber. It's not magic

>>15162507
>your probes must get smaller in mass the further out you want to go if you give a shit about travel time. and assuming you want orbiters, you need fuel and time to slow down
Consider: Starship is big enough that a 1 ton probe could carry two stages with it that would afford it enough delta V to achieve orbit around Eris within 15 years after launch

https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1619842643999203328
>A further update on ABL's launch pad in Kodiak.
>Satellite imagery taken on 2023-01-26 helps give some more insight into the current state of the launch pad.

https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1619843125236858880
>Comparing this imagery to the Google Maps imagery we can see the changes to the launch pad.

>>15163545
started out ok but began to morph into something else.
i burned through all my characters, so i guess i gotta make a new account. maybe play with it again tomorrow

>>15162677
Making probes, of course. Good luck using a big ass telescope to map Pluto to a global resolution of 10m/pixel, since you need to wait hundreds of years for it to orbit the sun and stop pointing its north pole at you all the time.

>>15162864
On Mars that will be illegal

>>15162699
Everyone is looking too far into this update.
IMO it's there to give context to Starship's size versus every other rocket. Now when people point at Starship and say "lol but why is it so much bigger than SLS when it only gets 100 tons to LEO? SLS gets 95 tons you know", Elon can say "Yeah Starship can get 250 tons actually but we do full reuse which is why Starship costs 50x less than SLS to launch".

>>15163566
>achieve orbit around Eris within 15 years after launch
eeh I'd rather have a plasma magnet flyby probe that gets there in 2 years. fuck this 'wait a generation for data' bullshit

>>15163598
>flyby
what a cuck

>>15163058
keep coping

>>15163113
Because it's a mobility function test.

>>15163497
It's true. Space helmets have shiny sun visors for style points. They don't actually have any purpose.

>>15163114
I saw something like that too. Made me want to firebomb some government buildings unironically. However I watched the 3+ hour movie afterwards and felt too tired so I did not act.

>>15163316
Truly an work of art

>>15163138
Imagine tying your companies imagine with luddite ism or the lack of fasisnation and hope.

>>15163139
None of that shit is needed before we can colonize the entire solar system. Chemical rockets are completely fine for colonizing the Moon and Mars from Earth, and also for colonizing the Asteroid belt and the Jovian system from Mars/Moon.

>>15163181
>aerospikes
They are heavier and worse.

>>15163186
>>15163189
Wouldn't care even if it were true.

>>15163638
>Chemical rockets are completely fine for colonizing the Moon and Mars from Earth
True
>and also for colonizing the Asteroid belt and the Jovian system from Mars/Moon
False

>>15163254
They're not that heavy if you aren't using a pressurized water design (which you'd have to be retarded to consider using in space). Remember, NERVA used a reactor core with a thermal output measured in gigawatts, and only weighed a few tons.
The real mass gain comes from the low temperature radiators you need to keep the cold side of your heat engine cold. This is why I kinda like the concept of the pulsed NTR more than I like big nuclear electric, because in PNTR you are still making niggawatts of heat but 99% of it is getting dumped into super high temperature radiators with a surface area of maybe 500 square meters total, while giving you an Isp of like 10,000 (and at decent thrust). Therefore if pulsed nuclear thermal actually works, it offers comparable efficiency to electric thrusters, except at a thrust output orders of magnitude higher, which more than offsets the higher mass.

>>15163007
I just saw the original video of that the other day for the first time lmao

>>15163271
Less power in electric thrusters results in less thrust, but doesn't effect Isp. Isp in electric thrusters is a function of voltage, not power. This is why ion drives can be scaled down pretty much infinitely: you can turn one watt into a gorillion volts if you wanna, you'll just directly trade off how many ions you can accelerate at once. It's kinda like how you can also go the opposite way and make an electric thruster with a high TWR but trash Isp, just by lowering the voltages and pumping more propellant through it.

>>15163287
>he thinks working for boeing offers any credibility
>fucking boeing
you must be new here

>>15163291
gunnerson the madman

>>15163660
what video is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wUhwQpWnwo

>>15163355
>With an aerospike you basically have to put the entire engine with turbopumps and combustion chambers on the pivoting part
That's literally how Raptor gimbals though, and so do most other rocket engines. I agree with you that aerospikes are a fool's pursuit but this isn't one of the reasons why they actually suck in real life.

>>15163598
>plasma magnet
Getting pretty sick of this shit being spammed
Don't even care if it works at this point

>>15163605
This is the only time flybys actually make sense to do and besides that would be just for imaging, the plasma magnet sail can be added onto any probe to accelerate its time to reach its destination (though it can't be too excessive because it needs another way to slow down and brake)

Even if plasma magnet sails don't work out the way we hope them too there's still electric sails and they have good speeds too, propellantless is king in space, constant thrust

>>15163113
Mars is hard.

>>15163688
>being spammed

and what do you call 20+ vocaroo posts, not spam?

Holy shit

>>15163114
Globohomo is getting pretty anxious that people are going to find a way off the prison planet.

>Virtual Aerospike
Legit or Reddit meme?

>>15163692
Every fucking /sfg/ conversation, some plasma autist butts in
>haha whatever it is you're talking about is fun, but you know what's REALLY cool?
>Plasma magnet

>>15163682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha7smLPz2GY

>>15163698
I can't wait to use a Virtual Aerospike in Virtual Reality :)

>>15163114
If you wanted to be more angry today

>>15163700
You're right we should keep posting vocaroos instead and not talk spaceflight, thank you thread monitor

https://youtu.be/myYs4DCCZts
Love the dislikes on this. Where is VASIMR today?

>>15163712
>tom mueller
close call, I'd stop scrolling just in case

>>15163712
Yikes

>>15163712
That's not the only thing he's imagining. ;)

>>15163712
> Tom Mueller is a homosexual fascist
Based tbphwy

>no static fire tomorrow
pain

>>15163598
Okay, consider this then:
Starship lets you send a probe with a plasma magnet sail and a braking stage to achieve orbit around Eris in like 5 years. In fact the transfer period is limited only by the amount of delta V in the braking stage: since a plasma magnet sail can achieve the same maximum velocities no matter what payload it's dragging if given enough time, this means the "braking stage" could be an entire fully fueled, specially constructed low mass Starship stage containing another low mass stage inside it. Sure it may take a few months to accelerate to full speed instead of a few days, but the payoff is that instead of an hour of data from one region you get years of data globally.
Of course, none of this stops you from sending ahead a vanguard high speed flyby anyway. It's just best to follow up with a slightly less high speed orbiter in my opinion.

>Gwynne Shotwell has a twitter profile
>number of tweets: zero
based

Oh God, I've just realised I can record Jessie's voice

>>15163745
you can make her say anything you want, so long as it uses the same cadence as every spacex livestream

>>15163745
Just don't post it here, faggot. Stop spamming that shit.

>>15163745
post something

>>15163749
fag

>>15163734
fast flyby cheap probes followed by slower orbiters sounds good to me. but I want a moratorium on >10 year flight times, I'm sick of them

>>15163745
You're gonna make her say that she loves you, aren't you, anon? ;)

>>15162749
>>15162838
>>15163472
https://vocaroo.com/1erryS9hD8Mz

>>15163753
I'm going to bed, I will try to make something tomorrow.

>>15162689
Doesn’t quite nail his bizarre cadence tbqh but it’s good

>>15163707
>some people these days are fascinated with the metaverse and mars

Some people are fascinated with Mars. No one is fascinated with the metaverse.

>>15163653
>and also for colonizing the Asteroid belt and the Jovian system from Mars/Moon
>False
Explain your reasoning. From as far as I can be bothered to think, the much less intense propulsion requirements for getting into low Mars or low Lunar orbit from their respective surfaces would make everything from basic launch and orbital refilling to more advanced on-orbit fabrication of huge vehicles so much easier that taking the next steps outward becomes very feasible.
The asteroid belt should be trivial to explore and settle from Mars, not only because Mars is so close and has low gravity, but because Mars has two little moons to act as training grounds to learn to operate on an asteroid, plus they act as massive reserves of materials to build stuff from.
Jupiter would be a much bigger challenge but I'm not convinced that it would be outside the range of hydrolox vehicles built in Mars orbit. The trick would be to send out unmanned vehicles with the equipment to mine and refine water into hydrolox at one of Jupiter's outer irregular moons, then follow up with crew to set things up and get a propellant source operating in system. From that outer moon you'd then drop in towards Callisto and set up surface ISRU there as well. To do this you'd need a very big and comfy habitat that people could live in for years at a time.

>>15163712
Is Tom actually gay or hid he accidentally like the video of the dude jerking off?

>>15163763
I think I've actually heard that spelled out sometime, there are people that think people owe the government (and them) because it enabled them to grow up and live
and I guess that is true to some extent, but at what point are you allowed to leave? people don't have freedom and somehow forever enslaved as indentured servants to the state to create taxable income?

>>15163689
>constant thrust
Only in regards to distance from the sun, while at velocities that are an insignificant percentage of the solar wind speed, but sure. Basically the thrust force drops off as you approach the velocity of the solar wind, but that's still like 400 km/s so who cares

>>15163763
Tbh it’s not a one or the other thing. You can love the environment and love space travel at the same time. I hate modern politics

>>15163772
he might be bi
who cares?
lol

>>15163757
kek
now do musk :^)

>>15163707
There's some kind of reference to Plato's allegory of the cave that can be made here

>>15163772
Only if he said "no homo" before accidentally liking the video.

>>15163772
>or hid he accidentally like the video of the dude jerking off?
Proofs?

>>15163712
sculpture is based

>>15163783
The ideal art form for space. Nothing out there but roggs to be used as canvas.

>>15163772
>he accidentally like the video of the dude jerking off?
Never happened. You must be from the halley-comet-crashing-into-the-moon timeline. Don't ever talk about this again.

>>15163782
It's fake as fuck forced meme. shitty rumor trolls think will catch on outside of sfg

>>15163778
https://vocaroo.com/1l7YuhYf3GTp

>>15163754
Sounds fair. What's really nice about the plasma magnet sail is that it makes all gravity assist trajectories for reaching the outer solar system totally redundant. The only thing we'd still need assists for is getting to Mercury, probably. Even if you only want a roughly hohmann-level transfer to Saturn or whatever you can do it by launching into a solar orbit from Earth then use your plasma magnet to crank your orbit out there, and within a week of launching you're now on your way to your destination directly.

>>15163773
>but at what point are you allowed to leave?
Should be "allowed" to leave in exactly the same way people are "allowed" to emigrate from their home country. If they try to stop me, I am morally obligated to start destroying expensive infrastructure.

>>15163786
>>15163787
hi, tom

>>15163794
I love how the process for reaching Venus or Mercury with a plasma magnet probe will be speeding to Jupiter in ~30 days and then directing it into the inner solar system, and maybe the plasma magnet can brake then if not an e-sail break can be deployed

Man its crazy, plasma magnetic sails and e-sails have the potential to change everything about how we explore - or they can both be proven to not work as predicted and change nothing, but until we actually test them beyond the magnetosphere, nobody knows for sure

Shit is so frustrating in a way

>>15163776
Same, I actually want humans to eventually vacate the Earth entirely. Life is too precious to fuck up with yet another cobalt mine or whatever, we should use our big brains to turn dead worlds into gardens for us to live in while we allow the biosphere on Earth to recover and keep on trucking.

>>15163754
>but I want a moratorium on >10 year flight times,
That should only be acceptable for probes heading out into the 500 AU SGL distance or the like yeah

>>15163801
Yeah hopefully someone actually does the thing at some point, and not in a shitty retard meme way like that solar sail test.

>>15163802
An excellent idea, anon. Let's make it happen.

>>15163806
It took NASA decades to finally try out a solar sail craft and it utterly failed (NEA Scout), I wonder if it will take a similar length of time for them to just get the e-sail tech demo done (HERTS) or if after NEA Scout failure they are put off from sails entirely, I really think solar sails are a meme and e-sails/plasma magnet will render them unnecessary except for inner solar system and maybe asteroid belt missions

>>15163805
Someone should do the math to figure out the timeline to get a telescope to the solar gravitational lens distance if we were to use a plasma magnet sail to accelerate to top speed them switch to an electric thruster to start slowing down to hit roughly zero m/s at the right distance. It's probably a long time, fuck can we just get a fusion engine soon please?

>>15163794
>The only thing we'd still need assists for is getting to Mercury, probably.
Nope, electric sails dont need them (dunno abt plasma magnets)
> the E-sail could take a probe to Mercury rendezvous (high planetary orbit) in less than one year with no gravity assists

>>15163799
troll

>>15163816
>solar gravitational lens distance if we were to use a plasma magnet sail to accelerate
That would probably involve dynamic soaring to get there in any appreciable amount of time, also can't the e-sail be used as a brake after it reaches 500AU? I can't remember if it could or not, braking is really the weakness of this tech and why for planetary exploration cheap flybys make sense first just to get all our imagining done first

>>15163820
>2014

>>15163810
Not like that, I specifically want human civilization in space to grow completely out of control of the puny earther governments and then either forcefully deport all humans from Earth or exterminate them with targeted bioweapons or hunter killer machines or insert scifi apocalypse weapon here.

>>15163820
This is like saying an NTP will get you to Mars in 45 days, a midwit who only has a crude understanding of the concept got carried away.

>>15163814
>NEA Scout
>launched on SLS
>contact never established
solar sailfags must be seething

>>15163869
Solar and e-sails (also failed) are uniquely cursed I swear

>>15163878
>potentially revolutionary tech gets launched on shakedown missions
>coincidentally fail to even attempt to function
>legacy tech jobs preserved
suspicious

>>15163886
Or they're legitimately shit.

>>15163888
I mean if they never even established contact that's not really a failure of the sail

>>15163891
The antenna and sail implementation count too, but I honestly don't know how those two systems were integrated.

>>15163897
Anyway I still think a photon sail isn't as exciting or potentially useful as a plasma magnet sail, so getting one of those up and actually functioning should be someone's priority.

>>15163886
There is no conspiracy.

>>15163903

The problem with light sails that anon handwaves is how insanely big they have to be for even small payloads.

>But look at how fast they go if you start one at Mercury.

Another handwave, it takes less delta V to get to Jupiter than Mercury.

>>15163914
You might have a point, but there's still something that you haven't consider.
They look cool.

>>15163711
You're not talking about spaceflight, you're just fantasizing. No proof that Greason's schizomagnet actually works.

>>15163922
Works in the lab, now it just needs to be tested in space, same with the electric sail, the fuck is your problem, this is what you bitch about, we have speculation like this all the time here

>>15163921
>They look cool.
Or do they?

Hey please no shitfits, if you don't like the current thread discussion either start talking about a topic you prefer or come check the thread later. If you consider something spam, just ignore it.

>>15163391
>hybrid
>150hp
pathetic

>>15163943
196hp and 57mpg

>astronauts twitter bio
>"in space now"
What a flex lmao

>>15163999
which astronaut, I wanna give them a follow now

>>15164001
Wakata

great pics too

:skull:

>tfw no JAXA FD gf

>>15164006
They really do seem to be stretching out the scientific research thing as much as possible, huh?

>>15164006
>>15164016
what science does the ISS actually do?

>>15164017
Canadarm testing

>>15164016
Wrong. We should have been writing textbooks about human fertility in space by now. We're only now just getting into the BASICS without getting into real fertilization, embryos, and babies. It's crazy that we haven't done any substantial research on the topic.

>>15164017
Growing lettuce and looking at some flies, space is hard.

>>15163282
Anon solar electric propulsion is already a thing.
In fact, because of starlink most orbital vessels use solar electric propulsion.

>>15164053
For tiny dv orbital station keeping and the satellite has a lifespan of a few years, not for sending hundreds of tonnes on a Mars orbit you dense faggot.

>>15163922
>hurr y u keep posting about the most promising space propulsion development since ever
>if I put schizo in front of it that invalidates it haha

Kill yourself earther.

>>15164053
>because of starlink most orbital vessels use solar electric propulsion
Wild how they went from operating zero satellites to the majority of craft in orbit within four years. It's going to be interesting to see how this part of history gets written about, in comparison to how anti-Musk sentiment in the media and government lead to the insane accomplishments of his companies being ignored whenever possible.

>>15164040
That's literally what I said, silly

>>15164066
Why not? For non time sensitive cargo you can do many less refueling flights.

>>15164017
Is there some place where I can read about experiments and research that happens on the ISS. I know there's a NASA blog that does a day-by-day rundown of what's happening, but it's not really technical. Most of the shit I do find are either blogposts with a couple words from the guy that sponsored the experiment, or dead links.

>>15164128
NSF L2 has thread which has daily updates of what's happening on the ISS.

>>15164110
>For non time sensitive cargo

You need to go back to and learn orbital mechanics 101 for fucks sake.

>>15164006
it would be japan studying sex in space

>>15164017
>nasa wants to send actual scientists to the iss
>congress hinders it
https://spacenews.com/nasa-scales-back-project-to-send-scientists-to-iss/

SpaceXNigga is unironically my favourite space YouTuber at the moment

>>15164184
Don't worry, they would only be studying the effects of zero g on tranny axe wounds anyway. Nothing of use will get done while the government is in charge.

>>15164194
whats he up to

>>15164198
He’s made some in depth videos about the concrete, deluge, etc. I’m watching his older stuff and it’s insane how much shit he and his team figured out.
>Booster 4 was never going to fly, ever
>SpaceX had to rip out all of the Raptor 1 QD’s from the OLM for Raptor 2.
>This explains why SpaceX was so quick to switch to B7/S24

>>15164197
the program is for commercial research

pretty sure that massive methane vent during wdr was illegal

>>15164128
I get my ISS news from https://space ref.com

>>15164273
It wasn't.

>>15164273
>illegal

>>15164273
they can dump many tons of methane as per the faa.
dilate

>>15164273

>>15163757
wait, the horny posting potential of this is catastrophic

>>15163291
Eric gunnerson is in heat? o_o

>>15164273
Okay ESGhound
Kek remember when a lot of people took him very very seriously?

>>15164288
you have no idea. meltdown has barely begun

>>15164290
Didnt he get doxxed? we should pay him a visit. Bring your truck

>>15164273
So is chaining sacrifices to the ground under the rocket to prevent 600hz honks but that's not stopping them, nor should it

>>15164295
Not his address but yes his name and workplace are known. He doxxed himself though kek he posted it all in the FAA public comments.
It was always very obviously about protecting his stock portfolio and he did it all while working for fucking kinder morgan

>>15164298
>Not his address
laaaaaaaaame

>>15164297
there'a no way that's true, but on the off chance that it is, spacex is depraved and awful

>>15164298
name is all i need for an address

>>15164303
I can't tell if you're autistic or baiting but they obviously don't. That said, I would absolutely support offering human sacrifices at every test fire and launch if it demonstrated a statistically significant increase in positive results.

>>15164315
Plenty of pedos, narcos and other assorted garbage out there to offer up to the COPV gods.

>>15164303
That's how all rockets work. Scientists do not know what causes this phenonmenon.

>>15164306
>>15164300
His name is Eric Roesch, he worked for kinder Morgan and was based in Houston Texas. That was on his LinkdIn

>>15163843
The paper linked was written by the guy who invented the e-sail, try reading it

>>15164319
don't forget all the astronomers

The thread having 404 replies in red always gets me for a second

>>15163291
Science has gone too far.

>>15164075
I keep thinking about staggering similarities between Henry Ford and Elon Musk

>>15164478
It's going to be alright. Unlike the White Man, the Jew cannot create. We are facing obstacles, but we will overcome all of them.

>>15163171
A daring synthesis