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>in class
>professor states required textbook
>pirate it within two minutes
>ask my classmates if they need a copy
>"wtf how did you do that?"
>other says "I paid $230 for mine this isn't fair" (the textbook is only $105 new on amazon, not sure why he paid more)

I thought being able to get knowledge for free, at least cheap, was widely known. College students really are a special bunch.

>> No.15158592

zoomers cant pirate. everyone i know only knows how to use streaming websites.

t. zoomer

>> No.15158599

>>15158592
By streaming do you mean illegal streaming servers or paying for services like Netflix?

>> No.15158607

Zoomers can’t pirate because there isn’t an iphone app for it

t. usenet enjoyer

>> No.15158656

>>15158599
most of them only know the pay services and illegal streaming servers are scary to them

>> No.15158661

>>15158599
the former, but they also waste money on legitimate services alongside it for some reason

>> No.15158681

Ever class in my university includes a free ebook woth enrollment. For my major, I buy two or three different books on the class, used, for a few dollars from used online book stores.

>> No.15158692

>>15158591
I have never bought a video game, music, pdf or a movie in my entire life. I learned how to pirate on my own when I was around 7 years old and wanted to play games on a PS1 with a Mod Chip my mother bought at the flea market but refused to buy me games because they were to expensive.

>> No.15158702 [DELETED] 

>>15158661
college kids don't have their own money, they're only "wasting" daddy's credit card.

>> No.15158710

>>15158591
this exact scenario just happened to me. It isn't difficult and you don't even have to go to sketchy websites. Do that few people really not know about archive.org or zlibrary or booksvooks or any of these?
I can't remember who said it but I once heard that if a book can be found online for free, never ever pay for it unless you specifically want a physical copy or want to support the author.

>> No.15158714

What's the best VPN for piracy?

>> No.15158726

>>15158714
Imagine needing a VPN

>> No.15158745

>>15158714
Live in Brazil or Russia

>> No.15158781

I print out QR code links to libgen and put on the title "want free books" and post them around everywhere
I think many students already know though

>> No.15158909

>>15158781
>libgen
>He doesn't know about the actually good book pirate site

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>>15158592
>everyone i know only knows how to use streaming websites
>tfw german

>> No.15161253

>>15158909
Ah shit. It was in the news a bit ago, wasnt it? What was it called? I was traveling during that time and couldnt download the library but I can now.

>> No.15161280

>>15158714
imagine not having a built in vpn in your browser.

t. opera gx user

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15161299

>zoomers are young, naive and gullible
good observation, use it to your advantage

>> No.15161305

>>15161299
It's amazing how normies will just go along with this. "Yes, sports players and teenagers dying of suddenly always happened. Don't ask about what changed."

>> No.15161905

>>15161305
That has always happened.

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>>15161905

>> No.15162107

>>15158592
it's really a great thing in a way because piracy websites and torrenting in general is out of the spotlight. there was a time when the australian government here was really trying to stamp it out, now they just don't care.

>> No.15162115

>>15161905
i remember in the 90s in my country 1 (one) soccer player died from a heart attack in the field and it was in the news for 6 months, now it's hundreds and nobody cares

>> No.15162127

>>15158591
More money from parents destroys children

>> No.15162136

Paying feels better though. It's honest, it's legal, and it supports content creators. For example I spent $500 last month on porn. Of course I could have pirated it. But I didn't. By paying I show my appreciation and I encourage content creators to produce more content.

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15162137

>Paying feels better though. It's honest, it's legal, and it supports content creators. For example I spent $500 last month on porn. Of course I could have pirated it. But I didn't. By paying I show my appreciation and I encourage content creators to produce more content.

>> No.15162176

>>15158692
You missed out on Bloodborne though...

>> No.15162179

>>15162136
Based kike

>> No.15162188

>>15162136
kek

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>>15158591
>mfw several non-English coursebooks
>none of the universities in my country have it available in their libraries
RIP in pieces my wallet

>> No.15162271

>>15158591
Having the problem solving skills to find and download the textbook pdf alone puts you ahead of the curve of everyone in your cohort.

>> No.15162327

>>15158592
This is true. I don't understand it. Torrenting is so easy. My younger brother is one of those terminally online zoomers, but I have to build and maintain his computers for him, and he has no idea how to torrent. I think zoomers are actually braindead.

>> No.15162331

>>15158692
You're able to purchase games now though. Ever play a sequel to a game? If everyone pirated the original, the developers would have made no money and a sequel never would have been made. You're a parasite.

>> No.15162332

>>15161905
Not at this rate though. There have always been fags in humanity. But never in the 25% rate of zoomers

>> No.15162333

>>15162331
For every one guy that pirates everything there are a million guys who buy everything.

>> No.15162334

>>15162333
Yes, that's what a parasite is called. Someone who benefits off the actions of others. If everyone did the parasites action, he'd fail to survive.

>> No.15162335

>>15162334
If no one is willing to pay for your creations, maybe your creations are worthless. :^)

>> No.15162338

>>15162335
So let me get this right. You rely on the masses to purchase a product, which you classify as a benchmark for the product having worth. Why then should you be entitled to have this worthy product for free? I don't understand your mentality.

>> No.15162341

>>15162334
>buy those binary bits or you're a parasite
shut the fuck up retard

>> No.15162344

>>15162338
>You rely on the masses to purchase a product, which you classify as a benchmark for the product having worth
Yes.

>then should you be entitled
No one is entitled to anything. It's available so I take it. :^)

>> No.15162353

>>15162334
Yeah but everyone doesn't do that.

>> No.15162355

>>15162341
Not my argument.
>>15162344
What else do you take illegally simply because it's available?
>>15162353
Again, thanks for fleshing out what a parasite is. They require a host to function.

>> No.15162361

>>15162355
>What else do you take illegally simply because it's available?
Anything I want, so long as I can get away with it and it doesn't harm anyone. "People" who "respect" the law are nonsentients.

>> No.15162364

>>15162361
By your definition, NPCs aren't people. You have no problem committing illegal acts so long as people aren't hurt. You also seem to have a disdain for NPCs. It stands to reason you'd have no issue killing an NPC.

>> No.15162372

>>15162364
>you'd have no issue killing an NPC.
I have no problems with ending your existence, except it's a lot of effort for zero gain and the risks are extreme.

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15162386

>in a maths lecture
>professor is a boomer/toomber
>says we will use this or that book
>says you can get it at (tbe book store) or one of those russian places if you are brave

boomers do not give a fuck

>> No.15162393

>>15162355
>Not my argument.
this is exactly your argument because you are talking about video games, which are just a sequence of bits.
imagine you were charged money for my shitposts, its literally the same thing

>> No.15162405

>>15162393
No. The original anon has almost certainly played sequels. If everyone pirated the original game like he did, there would be no sequel for him to enjoy. My argument isn't REEE PURCHASE ZE BITS GOY. It's about moral consistency: if he really enjoyed the game so much he's going to invest his time in a sequel, why not support the developers to make that sequel? It's such a fundamental component of morality and ethics that literal children understand. I get that people on 4chan have varying degrees of autism. Truly, I get it. But the behavior displayed by this anon is beyond autism. It treads into narcissism, psychopathy, and maybe even schizophrenia to an extent. It's such a lack of self awareness of his own mental deficiencies that it's rather ironic. I'm not saying piracy is carte blanche wrong by the way. I pirate things too but I also have no problems purchasing products.

>> No.15162411

>>15162405
i will agree to pay the developer if he pay to the people who program the, compiler, standard libraries, graphic engine and whatever software component he use to make his shitty game, so they would produce better software in the future

>> No.15162415

>>15162411
You really don't know shit, do you? There's a difference between proprietary software and open access software. The programming languages used to design these games are open access. The creators have determined they don't need to be pay for it, because it's not a product. Developers pay everyone who contributes labor to the game such as game design, art, programming, play testing, etc. And before you get the wrong impression, no I'm not a game developer. I just get out of my own fucking head and understand how things work.

>> No.15162416

>>15162415
Corporations don't deserve to get paid. People who work for corporations don't deserve to get paid, either.

>> No.15162424

>>15162416
You only play games developed by corporations? I hope you don't go around calling people NPCs kek

>> No.15162434

>>15162424
You are an NPC and your fully automated seethepost demonstrates it.

>> No.15162471

>>15161253
z-lib or something

>> No.15162475

>>15162136
>Paying feels better though
you know, now that you mention it, i think that those people that when the franchise they like turns to shit and attempt to be some pro-bono advisors do it from that point of view, they want to pay, huh

>> No.15162478

>>15162415
>The creators have determined they don't need to be pay for it.

the only reason they do this its because they want people to share and modify, learn, contribute etc...
they are not ok with the fact that people use their stuff and then package it to a locked executable.
this is what your beloved "developers" are doing.
apart from the fact that they did not see it as something to be legally involved, they trusted people who, from a position based on values and respect, would give them the rightful credit.
but i guess it's fine with you for someone to take someone else's work and sell it, it really shows me where the moral element you were talking about comes from

>> No.15162484

>>15162478
>to take someone else's work and sell it
good point. next time i buy a painting, i'll be sure to tell the artist the developer of the paints, brushes, etc all deserve my money instead.

>> No.15162487

>>15162484
you're the one who talk about fairness, i just show you what fairness is

>> No.15162491

>>15162487
>i can't tell when posters count goes up

>> No.15162492

>>15158591
How does not literally everyone use pdfs? Everyone here either knows about libgen/z-lib/(google + filetype:pdf) or they know to ask their friend to send the pdf to them.
>>15162136
i wouldn't read most of the books i've read if i had to pay for them
by not paying and pirating, and by recommending books to other friends, I have done more for the authors than what I would've done if I had stayed """ethical"""". Even the physical books I have currently are ones I initially read from a pdf and then liked.

>> No.15162495

>>15162491
am i supposed to look at the counter every fucking second?

>> No.15162497

>>15162492
nice pilpul. how many of those friends you recommended the book to purchased it?

>> No.15162508

>be me
>go to the louvre
>see mona lisa
>learn leonardo da vinci painted it
>interrupt guide
>uhm, AKSHUALLY sir, leonardo da vinci used tools not designed by himself
>we should be giving credit to the makers of the tools, not to da vinci
>who are these nameless people anyway?
>everyone claps

>> No.15162521

>>15162176
nta souls style games are garbage though

>> No.15162534

i dont know where to pirate books too desu. can sb give a good website?

>> No.15162597

>>15158592
You don’t even need to have experience pirating. I’m a zoom zoom, and all I did was browse google for a couple minutes and I immediately found libgen.

The only textbook I’ve paid for (besides the ebooks that we’re required to have for class so we can answer questions) is my Calculus textbook, but I only got it because I really like Calc.

>> No.15162620

>>15162534
libgen
scihub

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>>15158591
>Piracy is bad
However,
>other says "I paid $230 for mine this isn't fair"
That guy probably bought it from the campus bookstore. It's usually quite expensive there.

>> No.15164594

>>15158591
>"I paid $230 for mine this isn't fair" (the textbook is only $105 new on amazon)

I don't believe your story. How the fuck did that happen?

>> No.15166270

>>15158592
>zoomers cant pirate. everyone i know only knows how to use streaming websites.
daughter asked me a week ago how to play an old pokemon game on an Ipod. poor kid. they don't even know.

>> No.15166436

>>15162508
>uhm, AKSHUALLY sir, leonardo da vinci used tools not designed by himself
Artists back then used to experiment with dyes and craft tools themselves. And considering Da Vinci was quite the scientifically oriented mind, he probably made a lot of his stuff himself.

>> No.15166661

>>15158591
I always start my tutoring sessions by telling the students to "never use these sites (i have written a list of book/paper libraries on the blackboard), because they provide free books and papers and piracy is very dangerous" with a very ironic voice and it is always shocking to see how many students have never heard of them.
To be fair, our universities library also provides a ton of books for free, so they would probably never need to pirate them, but knowing how to get stuff for free should be common knowledge

>> No.15166957

>>15158591

Kek 98% of my classmates just download the books off of library genesis after our actual teachers “discourage *wink wink*” us from doing so after they provide the link to the website

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>>15158591
>I paid $230 for mine this isn't fair
LOST

>> No.15169108

>>15166661
Saying it that way is a midwit filter.

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>>15162471
FBI gangster police shut that down real fast

>> No.15169883

>required textbook is THIS year's edition of professor's book
>nowhere to be found on any tracker or website
>ONLY available from the uni affiliated library (no not the uni library otherwise you can borrow it for free)
I am thinking about buying it and scanning then uploading it just to spite that greedy old cunt. only thing i should worry about is the serial number right?

>> No.15169909

>>15169883
What happens if you don't get the le required textbook?

>> No.15169937

>>15169308
>muh eff bee eye
Just use Tor?

>> No.15169945

>>15169308
tor or anna's archive

>> No.15170064

>you can buy our book here, or you can acquire it in other ways *wink* if you know how *wink*
>not gonna say how though
>maybe some other students here can help you out *wink*
just say it, coward

>> No.15170070

>>15162471
doesn't libgen just catalogue z-lib?

>> No.15170124

>>15158592
Been pirating since about age 7, it's really not hard at all, and on the upside you learn more about what you're pirating

>> No.15170199

>>15162334
Everyone is a parasite in one firm or another. Dont be such a hypocrite

>> No.15171174

>>15158591
>go to amazon
>search for book
>buy new from indian seller knowing its probably inferior toiletpaper quality
>pajeet ships but never provides tracking
>after 9 weeks arrives as simple mail
>tell pajeet it never arrived and scam pajeet
>its actually really toiletpaper
>get free book this way
I scam alot on Amazon. Usually used books, 8 books out of 10 get sent as normal mail without tracking. I probably scammed about 10.000 bucks already out of amazon this way

>> No.15172268

>>15158714
Virtualshield

>> No.15173013

>>15161280
bravo , the chinese goverment thanks you for the data

>> No.15173040

>>15162331
Well now, since you have surplus money to throw at games and he doesn't, some would say _you're_ the parasite who somehow stole the wealth that he never got.
And if there were enough overpaid economic parasites like you, there would be a whole underclass of poor people who pirate... which there is, and there are.

>> No.15173073

>>15158592
Zoomers don't seem to know what bit torrents are. They routinely spend money on Steam to get video games, they use Netflix to watch movies and TV series.
Some time ago I showed my zoomer sister how to use Library Genesis and she was acting like I magically restored the ancient library of Alexandria.

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>>15162331
The whole video game industry is so fucking pozzed nowadays that it deserves to die.
Everything is censored to hell and back, even mild stuff like Shin Megami Tensei V. And they completely mistranslated Fire Emblem Engage in order to done down any perceived pedophilia in the sentimental relationships involving fictional minors.
Either learn Japanese or drop video games altogether. Hell, Sony and Square seem to hate even their Japanese audience anyway. Look how they massacred Tifa in FF7R. She was supposed to have big boobs and thick thighs, yet she looks like a tranny now. Fuck this gay world, I hope they all die.

>> No.15173097

>>15173073
I buy games on steam so I can play with my friends, although I understand that wont be a problem for you.

>> No.15173123

>>15161280
Your ISP and corporations thank you for using a VPN that leaks data. Literally defeats the point of pirating if it's built into your browser. That's some duckduckgo tier boomershit.

>> No.15173151

>>15173088
They changed her from the right to left one so it would be more appealing to pedophiles

>> No.15173300

>>15173123
How much child porn do you torrent?

>> No.15173324

>>15158592
Right on the money

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>>15173097
>although I understand that wont be a problem for you

>> No.15173355

>>15173123
lol I just use vpn to browse rarbg and other banned (from my country) sites.
They can't do shit to me.

>> No.15173365

>>15158591
Are they foreign?

>> No.15175046

>>15158591
I know how to pirate, but I honestly just prefer paper unless the textbook it's extremely expensive. Thankfully, so far my professors asked for 30 bucks books that are also easy to find in the uni library.

>> No.15175088

>>15158591
Don’t even bother bro. They are your competition.