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15152730 No.15152730 [Reply] [Original]

Do journalists really know what stochastic means?

>> No.15152743

>>>/lit/

>> No.15152753

>>15152730
Putting my intense hatred of journos aside, "stochastic terrorism" makes some vague sense. I think they mean saying questionable things that don't cause or encourage violence directly, with the expectation that they will have such consequences on a statistical level, simply thanks to the Law of Large Numbers.

>> No.15153120

Post an archive of the article.

>> No.15153205
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>>15152730
It means
>speech I don't like might inspire people to do illegal things and therefore we should give me veto power over free speech

Journalists will never mention the "stochastic terrorism" their own profession inflicts on the public, by for instance promoting terrorists as cool people to immitate.

>> No.15153223

>>15152753
>I think they mean saying questionable things that don't cause or encourage violence directly, with the expectation that they will have such consequences on a statistical level, simply thanks to the Law of Large Numbers.
Saying "I don't like the president" is now illegal because thanks to the "Law of Large Numbers", anybody criticizing a politician might cause some wacko to also hate the politician and to plot an assassination. Criticizing politicians is stochastic terrorism!

Btw, criticizing me and my above assertions is also stochastic terrorism. If you tell people that I'm wrong, somebody might try to kill me. You are evil if you don't agree with me.

>> No.15153224

>>15152730
50/50 it either happens or it don't

>> No.15153238

My dictionary says it just means random or chaotic?

>> No.15153241

>>15153223
Is that the excuse they're going to use to deny foia requests or even basic statistics?

>> No.15153245

>>15153241
It's the excuse they mean to use to curtail any and all criticism of themselves.

>> No.15153285

>>15153245
>If people knew what we did it might cause terrorism

>> No.15153287

>>15153285
Now you get it.

>> No.15153292

>>15153223
I have no idea what your mentally retarded point is about. I just explained to you why a particular kind of ill-intentioned propaganda effort can be termed "stochastic".

>> No.15153294

>>15153292
I wasn't disagreeing with you, sperg.

>> No.15153299

>>15153294
As far as I can tell, your post seems to imply that it's not a valid concept because you can't objectively distinguish it from normal inflammatory rhetoric. To that, I will say: that's the fucking point, retard. Mainstream journalism IS stochastic terrorism but go ahead and try to prosecute that.

>> No.15153303

>>15153299
>>As far as I can tell, your post seems to imply that it's not a valid concept because you can't objectively distinguish it from normal inflammatory rhetoric. To that, I will say: that's the fucking point,
Yes, that is the point. That's what I said. I wasn't disagreeing with you, stop sperging out against people who respond to you to agree with you. Not everybody who responds to you is doing it to persecute you.

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>>15153303
No one is allowed to agree with me on this board, kiddo.

>> No.15153322

>>15152730
Stochastic terrorism makes perfect sense. When MSM demonises a person or a group, eventually other people will act violently towards that person or group. You don't know when or by whom, but the expected value is that it will happen. Stochastic terrorism explains how journalists are killing people in Europe by, for instance, demonising nationalists and nationalist politicians.

>> No.15153328

>>15153322
it is implying mainstream approval of said acts thereby implicitly encouraging it

>> No.15153344

>>15152753
>simply thanks to the Law of Large Numbers
You don't know wat the Law of large numbers is.

>> No.15153349

Since this is the /sci board, I will answer your question, but please contain your /pol crap to /pol.

Stochastic models are those stories controlled by probability instead of determination. I drop a dice and it falls every time. That is determined. I drop a 6 sided dice and it lands on one of six sides every time. That is determined. I drop a dice and it lands on the side labeled 2. That is probability.

Stochastic process are when the probability distribution itself can change and those new sets of probability distributions themselves have their own probability distribution. I have 3 die, one with 6 sides, one with 12 sides, and one with 64 sides. Your probability of picking a number changes depending on the probability of which die I throw.

Stochastic processes allow us to engineer with probabilities with a determined change. You pick a number, and I use the die with the least chance of you getting that number. If you pick a number over 6, I will win every time.

Stochastic terrorism is the engineering of a violent act by increasing the odds of a random act of violence by encouraging it, and changing the odds from its resting state, or state of common cause, to its engineered state, or state of special cause.

The term Stochastic Terrorism has been in the literature since the late 1800s. It was not made up by modern political parties.

>> No.15153353

>>15153349
Bot post.

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>>15153353
you'd think they'd program the bot to communicate in a way that wasn't so glaringly idiotic.

>> No.15153366

>>15153364
On the contrary, they've done precisely the opposite and put a lot of effort into making their bots be leftist retards.

>> No.15153411

>>15153364
>>15153366
>>15153353
Less posts makey, more meds takey.

>> No.15153414

>>15153353
>>15153364
>>15153366
Bot posts.

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>>15153366
If the ZOG bots are programmed to preach to the choir rather than to convince the unfaithful then that indicates that ZOG is currently more concerned about losing support from their stooges than they are winning support from outside their shrinking sphere of influence. Seems like bad news for uncle shlomo

>> No.15153525

>>15153505
It is bad news. They're hated and afraid and they don't want people to know it.

>> No.15153564

>>15153364
They dont understand the law of diminishing returns. Most people are stupid so if one person is speaking sense in a room full of idiots it is easy to get the idiots join in with you making fun of the person who isnt an idiot who is saying things they art smart enough to understand. Their shilling will work for a period of time. As long as the NPC risk nothing by joining in with the shill at making fun of someone then they are fine with it, or at the least unfettered by it. Only when something happens that risks something that is important to them will the take the time to actually listen and pay attention. Then once the stupid shill hurls the same adolescent insults at them when they start to speaking about things they know to be true, the retard who priorly laughed with the shill will now see them what they are and grow to hate them. Shills dont have much else however so they will do it until they are roped. "deny, deny, deny" is what lawyers teach their clients and is the undying mantra of the politician

>> No.15153590

it means you're autistic, but instead of having the blues, you're stoked about it, so you're stochastic

>> No.15153643

>>15153505
>that indicates that ZOG is currently more concerned about losing support from their stooges than they are winning support from outside their shrinking sphere of influence
No. What it indicates is that infinite deboot culture is intellectual goyslop intended to stifle the opposition, while they themselves rely on propaganda and emotional manipulation. You're too much of a dumb nigger to catch on.

>> No.15154930

>>15153364
I've been noticing this idiot who puts post in the IQ website for some time now, and have realized something profound:

The IQ generator isn't determining the IQ of the person who wrote it, but instead the IQ of the person READING it! That is to say, the IQ generator looks at the average IQ of who could understand the words, not whether what they say is smart.

Therefore, this idiot, by implying the post is stupid, is showing that they have a IQ of LESS than 89 for not understanding what the post said, even though it was said at a level that a moron could understand.

It's funny when morons self own.

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>>15152730
Here's a definition.

>> No.15155277

>>15152753
>>15153223
It's one of those obvious concepts that's true but also pointless because it can be applied to everything.

>> No.15155320

>>15153349
>a dice
Pseud detected. Opinion ignored.
>>15153353
Bots know the difference between the incorrect "a dice" and the correct "a die". Sadly that anon is just an NPC pseud faggot.

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>> No.15155823

>Stochastic terrorism is the engineering of a violent act by increasing the odds of a random act of violence by encouraging it, and changing the odds from its resting state, or state of common cause, to its engineered state, or state of special cause.
That sounds like what the FBI and ATF do every day.

>> No.15156348

>>15152753
The problem is causing violence isn't necessarily terrorism.

>> No.15156422

>>15153238
you are correct. not sure what they mean by stochastic terrorism

>> No.15156426

cool thing about words: they are symbols. That means they can convey multiple meanings!

>> No.15156435

>>15155823
Reddit has a wide variety of boards dedicated promoting violent acts by just about every flavor of the self identified victim classes

>> No.15156441

>>15152730
>muh butterfly effect

>> No.15156454

>>15153205
>Fell Into Radical Islam
I'm surprised they wrote that, even back then, instead of "Became Radicalized"

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>>15152730
How stochastic terrorism operates becomes a lot clearer when you study various Islamic Cartoon controversies.
stochastic terrorism

>> No.15156578

>>15156564
If Sandniggers can't handle the fact that their "prophet" is a clown, then they don't belong in the west.

>> No.15156591

>Do journalists really know what stochastic means?
Yes. Evidently, you're the one that doesn't. A thread died for this.

>> No.15156971

>>15156454
it's totally radical dude
hang ten!

>> No.15157024

stochastic terroism is a term used to describe when someone basically gives out orders to commit violence against some sort of precieved enemy. This order of violence is usally not straight up commit this act but is hidden behind a couple layers. I looked up the origin of stochastic meaning and it seems to be related to conjecture and making guesses using this defintion it kind of makes sense. Whoever coined it was probably reading lmsome old books

>> No.15157029

>>15156564
chinkunz & grape juice
semites are the only race closely related enough to africans to share their fat lips, dark eyes and curly hair. apparently thats not the only shared characteristic.

>> No.15157054

>>15157024
>firmware update notes:
>"racist dogwhistle" changed to "stochastic terrorism"

>> No.15157059

>>15154930
now that's one hell of a schizo take.

>> No.15157596

When non profits or the glows put out fear articles about Neo Nazis in the news: It’s using past events or memories to generate new enemies or events. Happens with school shootings.
Using the Holocaust memory as a base for future activism is stochastic.
It does not need need to be recent or even true.