/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15145602
Something about a gene being activated.

>>15145602
I still strongly believe God would increase the cancer and autoimmune disease rate in whoever partook in that "treatment", if it isn't just straight up the mark of the beast itself that is.

People that remained faithful despite being able to buy the "treatment" (which will probably be a genetic therapy) would receive countless blessings, a possible one would be living hundreds of years like the generations before the Flood. But other possibilities could be super-strength, super-intelligence, prophecy, etc

>>15145611
Why do you view this as an affront to God?

>>15145611
>Take the treatment when you're old
>live for 30 more years (as a younger you)
>get cancer
>still got to live 30 more years as a young man.
>God forgives you.
It doesn't say anything about extending your life with a treatment in the Bible to my knowledge anon.

>>15145619
Anything new is an affront to God for like 30-50 years until God changes his mind later on.

>>15145624
Our entire civilization is based on usury, it doesn't stop being bad just because it becomes something people take for granted. Same situation here.

>>15145669
>Our entire civilization is based on usury, it doesn't stop being bad just because it becomes something people take for granted. Same situation here.

Usury and speculation is part of the human nature with which we were born. Immortality on the other hand...

>>15145669
Seems to have helped God's kingdom and man alike. Why is it bad?

>>15145619
>Why do you view this as an affront to God?
>Why do you view the genetic equivalent of the Tower of Babel as an afront to God?

>>15145710
God never made a commandment though. The people who built the Tower of Babel didn’t even know they were pissing god off. He’s just a dumb insecure bully

>>15145710
The entire point of the story of Babel is that God is a cunt and wants you to live like a cuck.

>>15145602
Sounds like complete bullshit link to study fucking faggot.

>>15145611
Why are pr*ts so fucking retarded?

>>15145602
I hope it is real and usable on humans. Just imagine what accomplishments craftsmen, artists, doctors, scientists, athletes with decades or centuries more life experience could make.

>>15145720
*letips*
Fucking faggot, i bet you're depressed and cry at night lmao

>>15145602
>take picture of mouse
>take another picture later
>epicly swap the labels (like a boss)
>we reversed aging! give us more money.

>>15145611
>I still strongly believe God

"...And by 'God', I mean my own personal beliefs and hang ups."

Some naïve people ITT.

It will take an extremely long time to develop something equivalent and safe to reverse aging in humans if it is even possible to reproduce this in humans. Even if civilization doesn't collapse before that occurs:
-It will cost huge amounts of money, so only the rich will be able to afford it.
-Humanity will then be ruled over by greedy, ancient psychopaths for an extra 50+ years or whatever it takes for diseases or other dangers to do what aging cannot.
-Super volcano eruptions, asteroid strikes, or any number of other catastrophic events will collapse civilization and end the means to subvert aging; the knowledge will be lost whether humanity survives or not.

>>15145842
>Some naïve people ITT.

I don't care how long it takes, I just want an understandable explanation for people who don't know about the subject about how they did it and so far they haven't given me any single explanation

>>15145846
I doubt almost anyone here reads in depth cutting edge scientific papers (or could understand them even if they did)

>>15145611
In reality the quest to extend our mortal lifespan was bestowed upon us by God. Because very few souls are making it into heaven we will be given a chance to use some extra centuries to develop our souls sufficiently to reach heaven.

Some of us still believe in salvation through works and not salvation through grace. Neither precludes the other.

>>15145602
I swear I saw a similar pic and a similar topic a decade ago.
Basically, this "reverse aging in mice" is a total nothing burgers, it's already been done for years.

I assume whatever paper describes what they did is paywalled to shit, probably costs thousands to read.

>>15145842
>Even if civilization doesn't collapse before that occurs

>>15145842
>-It will cost huge amounts of money, so only the rich will be able to afford it.
not necessary
>Super volcano eruptions, asteroid strikes, or any number of other catastrophic events will collapse civilization and end the means to subvert aging; the knowledge will be lost whether humanity survives or not.
headcanon

>>15145842
They're already doing trials in primates and they estimate human approval within 15 years, dipshit.

>>15145875
If it doesn't cost huge amounts of money, civilization will collapse all the sooner due to the human population going wildly out of control even earlier than expected. You cannot begin to understand how fast the earth's carrying capacity would be reached if every human lived an extra 50-100 years

>>15145879
just pair it with sterilization for the plebs

>>15145878
Just in time. No, really, do you honestly think this or any similar treatment will be allowed for the average middle class plebeian? Are you an oligarch? Then you will not be allowed to live forever.

>>15145867
https://www.livescience.com/collapse-human-society-limits-to-growth.html

You have until the 2040s

>>15145890
what do you think will happen when the cure is public knowledge?
no amount of money can protect the elites when all the plebs rise up, never could

>>15145602
This team has been working on this (and presenting on it) for at least six years, but I haven't seen any progression past animal models. Actually, six years ago it was in dogs- why are we back to a mouse model?

Sinclair is a snake oil salesman.

oh no no gettingoldbros is this it?

>>15145890
It will be bootlegged and sold on the black market within a year. Synthesizing literally any compound (or even gene therapy shit) really isn't difficult to do DIY anymore. There's plenty of people fucking around with shit like that already. Go look up Jo Zayner. The second someone manages to steal even a single vial of this therapy, it's game over.

Blade Runner is just around the corner, baby!

>>15145899
It will not be something anyone can cook up in their backyard if the average 'public' can even understand it. It will be secrets able to be manufactured only in high tech labs. If the proles challenge the elites, the elites will collapse civilization and retreat to their bunkers with the secret of this technology and the proles will not get it anyway. In no way can the proles prevail against modern governmental military might.

>>15145905
>Synthesizing literally any compound (or even gene therapy shit) really isn't difficult to do DIY anymore.
Can you do it? kek

And why would you WANT a dystopian hellhole like Blade Runner to be just around the corner?

>>15145905
Good luck synthesizing it without electricity or a meager home generator.

>>15145909
>It will not be something anyone can cook up in their backyard if the average 'public' can even understand it.
Irrelevant.
>If the proles challenge the elites, the elites will collapse civilization and retreat to their bunkers
I'm not talking about a couple of thosands of protestors but literally hundreds of millions of people that will stop whatever they are doing because its pointless to try and get the cure, "civilization" will collapse anyway for that duration.
>In no way can the proles prevail against modern governmental military might.
Any military would join the plebs, money will be worthless.

>>15145911
>Can you do it?
yeah, probably. At the very least, someone will figure out how to do it. It's not like there wouldn't be a market for it.

>why would you WANT a dystopian hellhole like Blade Runner
Why wouldn't I? That shit looks awesome and also like the ultimate expression of human culture.

>>15145914
>I'm not talking about a couple of thosands of protestors but literally hundreds of millions of people that will stop whatever they are doing because its pointless to try and get the cure

Why would they all like a hive mind risk what they currently have and the safety and comfort of their brave new world to try to commandeer this treatment? Will they take over the factories and labs to produce it?

>Any military would join the plebs, money will be worthless.
Not if the military is already offered the treatment to side with the elites.

>>15145917
>yeah, probably.
You have a genetics lab in your basement?

>>15145914
>I'm not talking about a couple of thosands of protestors but literally hundreds of millions of people that will stop whatever they are doing because its pointless to try and get the cure, "civilization" will collapse anyway for that duration.
They'll probably just shitpost about it on twitter and bots will argue with them saying patent law exists for a reason and trade secrets are lawful, corporations are your friend. There's already a large number of medical treatments that are so expensive its a moral outrage, yet no one seems to up and protest, they just accept their lot.

>>15145923
Believe it or not, I have an insane engineer furry trans hacker friend who does, yeah.

>>15145842
>It will cost huge amounts of money, so only the rich will be able to afford it.
1: you don't know that
2: how much do you think old people cost to a nation?

>>15145842
There's no sense arguing with anti-aging copers. They are on the emotional development level of a 6 years old and they are filled with animal terror at the mere mention of death. They are physically incapable of processing the truth on this matter. They will lose their minds if they try.

>>15145602
photoshop

>>15145602
Every time I read about this stuff, the only thing I think about is how pedos and hebes are gonna de-age themselves so they can hang around schools and fuck kids

>>15146079
Probably because you are one and that's what you're planning to do. I don't see anyone else thinking about that for any reason.

>>15145602

>"how the hell they did it?"
>artificially "age" mice by introducing DNA strand breaks
>block parts of the cell's DNA repair mechanism by introducing stem cell factors

More or less this. The poor mice.

>>15145717
>God never made a commandment though
Oral Torah already existed, go ask a rabbi

>>15146079
I don't think this shit reverses puberty anon, at most you'll look like a 25 year old again

>>15145717
I like how god straight up admits other gods exist, but you aren't allowed to follow them or he'll cry

>>15146149
Read the Tankah with commentary by Rashi, you will not understand a single sentence otherwise and will reach stupid conclusions like that despite plenty of other parts contradicting your "hypothesis".

If you still feel like being arrogant, feel free to do it and end up in hell.

>>15146158
>read this schizobabble
no thanks, I spend enough time here already

>>15146162
>I spend enough time here already
Indeed. Time for you to go back to spreaddit.

>>15145602
>doesn't post a source

fake news

>>15145710
>>15145710
>>15145717
The story of Babel can be interpreted thusly; God wants us divided and struggling amongst each other. Not to cause strife or control us but so we grow stronger, more diverse, more interesting. The building of the tower was not the cause of Gods displeasure. The cause was that it had taken everyone working together to achieve it. They had forsaken their instruction to go forth and multiply.

So too now would some have us cause God displeasure by refusing to go forth and multiply in this time when all cultures are merging into one.

>>15145602
Well, that image itself is a complete lie. Those mice are 'brothers'. The old was was genetically altered to be 'old', the young looking one is a normal mouse.

So yeah they can make mice older.

>>15145842
> -It will cost huge amounts of money, so only the rich will be able to afford it.
What they did to the mice was cheap as fuck. Also even if it were expensive it would almost always be efficient to give it to the workers anyway. More work years, with more work experience.

>>15146310
This.

>>15146443
I hope they do to you what they did to the mice in your next golembooster.

>>15145602
Harvard already did this right. A decade ago https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/nov/28/scientists-reverse-ageing-mice-humans?

>>15145602
jokes on you poindexter, I’m irreversibly damaging my body through alcoholism and other substance abuse. you aren’t harvesting shit.

>>15146443
Not to mention the savings in healthcare. Would be in the trillions. Any country that didnt implement this technology for free on citizens would be committting economic suicide and would not be able to compete with those that did.

>>15146079
I doubt physical schools will be a thing in 20-30 years

>>15145842
Why do people espouse opinions like these and then claim some sort of intellectual high ground, even when providing no evidence? You have all the foundation of the utopians - you're both just espousing science fiction as fact, but you just read dystopia works instead.

>>15146692
Your priest class will provide you with eternal life in heaven this time, golem. All you need to do is to comply, get your 10th booster and keep owning these irrational people espousing their dumb opinions.

>>15146058
Anything remotely this big will be monetized to hell by big pharma. That's capitalism

don't worry too much about it, only the elites and ultrarich will ever get the benefits of this, and likely by the time it would have been too late for you, anyways. now go crawl into the pod and eat those bugs so the elites can comfortably eat meat for a few more years before worldwide food shortages start

>>15146608
The government cannot nationalize this because big pharma owns them. So big pharma gets to set the price, not the governments of the world.

Also, let me get this straight. A large amount of posters on /sci/ are still antivax and a large portion of the US as well, yet people think they would be lining up for a far more drastic gene therapy treatment like this? If anything a large portion of the US would brand this the mark of the beast and come up with all kinds of horrible time delayed conspiracies for what it will do

>>15145842
deathist cope, keep crying and dying

>>15146761
I have an idea.

Let's use the boomers as experiments. We can sit back and watch till we know which treatments actually work.

>>15145611
Science & Math?

>>15145897
Check it out, another doomsday prediction.

>>15146733
He means if you stay young you will keep working, and they won't have to pay retirement.

>>15145602
Telomere shortening and/or lengthening, i'd assume. I'm hesitant to believe anything that sounds too good to be true.

>>15146940
>>15147080
I'm surprised futurists still exist after what has happened in the past few years. You still think we'll be living like the jetsons?

>>15147084
Newsflash: 2% of companies pay retirement anymore. Now you put money in the lottery (read stock market) in a 401k, and if you win you get to retire, and if you lose then you keep working.

>>15145611
I think you took a wrong turn somewhere. This isn't /x/

>>15145899
same reason you don't have DIY a nuclear reactor in your backyard

>>15145909
Any lab with standard machines will be able to produce these things for a few hundred dollars

>>15146761
>The government cannot nationalize this because big pharma owns them. So big pharma gets to set the price, not the governments of the world.
lmfao ok westoid not every government is flaccid and impotent.
They keep a monopoly on force for a reason. Corporations aren't allowed to have private armies for a reason ( hint: it's because what businesses did when they were allowed to )

>>15146146
I hit the wall somewhere between at age ~21

>>15146310
>Those mice are 'brothers'. The old was was genetically altered to be 'old', the young looking one is a normal mouse

Source or fake

Supposedly the old mouse is the normal mouse because if the young mouse were the normal mouse then there would be no reason to call this news "reverse aging" as the media calls it. If you are going to affirm something please do it with evidence and sources

>>15147258
Yes, but you understand the point of what he's saying, don't you? You don't have extreme ADHD leading you to go on tangents rather than actually reading and understanding other commenters, right, anon?

>>15147251
>assuming my position, then dictating it to me.
Very compelling, Anon.

A friend of mine got t-boned at an intersection by some drunk. None of you are safe.

>>15147711
That's okay, my rulers will make human drivers illegal and regulate society into a perfect safe haven while they're working on making me immortal and then I will live forever in a technological paradise while you deathist chud antivaxxers rot.

>>15147717
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51113132
You WILL meet your maker.

>>15147717
Youre missing the most important part dude

>>15145800
>Just imagine what accomplishments craftsmen, artists, doctors, scientists, athletes with decades or centuries more life experience could make.
You mean another decades of stagnation because acclaimed professor Shitberg created idiotic theory in his youth and refuses to admit mistake and his renowned name is used to block funding to any research challenging idiotic theory and fund research supporting it

>>15147519
Citation needed

>>15148084
It costs about 100 dollars to modify every allele in a person

>>15148100
Literally never been done legally. You can make strange concoctions that will do that in vitro but you have no idea in vivo.

>>15145611
Probably because the capitalists would secretly poison the treatment in such a way that it would require a monthly subscription.

Then people will claim its an act of God.

On the other hand if the commies control the treatment it will probably have forced sterility embedded in the treatment to cope with overpopulation.

>>15145602
>Cellular responses to double-stranded DNA breaks erode the epigenetic landscape
>This loss of epigenetic information accelerates the hallmarks of aging
>These changes are reversible by epigenetic reprogramming
>By manipulating the epigenome, aging can be driven forward and backward
so basically
>give mice cancer
>they look older
>cure said cancer
>mice are young again
>we have cured death
I would've been surprised if they did it on naturally old mice, but all this proves is that having your cells unable to replicate will make you look older which is alread known, the main issue being how to get more epigenetic dna without getting cancer

Is there any cure to arterial sclerosis or scarring / regeneration? They are able to prevent this on a limited basis only. Everything I see comes up short.

>>15145602
>https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)01570-7
Here is the study if you're interested
>40$ a day/ 400$ a year
Do people actually buy this?

>>15148165
It's all popsci nonsense. Humans can't even cure the common cold, let alone aging.

>>15145611
Religious zealots like you ought to be euthanised for the good of the human gene pool.

>>15145611
Niggers lived for 700 hundred years back in the day, what you on about

>>15145800
Anti-aging treatment should require sterilization to keep the population from exploding.

>>15148255
What if they already had kids?

>>15148165
>>15148165
isn't arterial sclerosys caused by sensent cells?

>>15148880
Inflammation, fibrin, fat deposits, and calcified organs. The main source could be inflammation, injury, and build up. So it’s complicated. Senescent cells would be a result of the inflammation.

>>15145842
>It will cost huge amounts of money
The R&D will cost a lot of money and the earliest availble treatments will probably be expensive to cover those costs but I doubt the actual treatment will cost much in material or labor.
Once they figure out what specific genes to target it will be a simply matter of growing large quantities of modified Crispr and just injecting them into a person.
Even if legit labs jack up the price to be unaffordable all it will take is one person with access to those modified cells to grab a few vials and start their own black market.

>>15148255
Just give people choice, you can have a kid but you can't be immortal anymore.

>>15145602
If I'm not wrong they sewn young and old mouse togather effectively connecting their circulatory systems
I bet elites are alredy using infants this way to purge their old tainted blood

>>15148160
>>Cellular responses to double-stranded DNA breaks erode the epigenetic landscape
>>This loss of epigenetic information accelerates the hallmarks of aging
>>These changes are reversible by epigenetic reprogramming
>>By manipulating the epigenome, aging can be driven forward and backward

Are you saying that instead of reversing aging they accelerated it? I need you to cite a source because I've read this before and it seems like something someone who doesn't really know about the subject would say.

>>15148255
We don't actually need sterilization. Just have it be at most 1.5-2 kids per person (you can't have more kids with anything if you've had 2 kids).
It'd be a good idea to implement no more kids policy for quite a while though, until we're just like 1bil people left.

People will still die, with anti-aging the life span might increase to 200-300 years or so, and I doubt anyone could end up over 1000 years old. Accidents, murders, and uncurbable diseases will kill off people forever (the diseases stops, but accidents will still happen).

>>15149689
We've known how to accelerate aging for quite a while.
Junk food, no exercise, bad air, etc.

>>15146761
Yeah no lol. Governments would seize and implement this. Maybe not US at first but China def would. Imagine a country that has a sustainable birth rate and virtually no elderly that are an economic burden to care for. All adults would/could be productive citizens.

>>15149710
in the future, accident may not be as lethal.
it is likely that in 50+ years people who had catastrophic body injuries will have their brain connected to an extrvasculatory device quickly in order to keep it alive even if the body is fucked
then either wait for their bodies to be fixed or get a new one

>>15149955
You can't do brain transplants. You'd need to keep the brain healthy while you repair the body. If you have to extract the brain you'll never be able to put it back into anything.
Also, there'll be nothing to do about catastrophic head injuries... Which will still happen. But maybe by then everyone will always walk around with helmets, or some kind of transplant around the bone that protect it.

>>15145842
>make product that has basically infinite demand
>only sell to a select handful of people

Won't happen

>>15146951
>boomers get to be immortal before everybody else

horrible idea

>>15150291
They'd probably change their mind real quick about the environment and the likes as soon as they realize they have to live in it.

>>15150299
Boomers have been living in an alternate reality their entire lives, and have never changed their ways for anybody

>>15150217
>If you have to extract the brain you'll never be able to put it back into anything.

sais who?!

>>15149710
Or, you know... Stop dooming us to an existence only ever spent on one planet. Because your idea of inhumane and unethical eugenics is completely unnecessary.

Earthfags every time.

>>15145842
Super volcanos and asteroids are incredibly unlikely

>>15150330
>Thinking earth can support 20 billion people for a few hundred years.
We're gonna be confined to earth for a good while.

>>15145602
Anti aging tech is stupid because the risk of cancer increases with age. Do they not take into account quality of life as well.

>>15150708
No, because elites don't know or care what constitutes quality of life. All they care about is their fear of eternal judgment by God and their desperation to live forever to avoid the possible metaphysical consequences of their lives.

>>15150360
For an immortal they are real threats because they will happen eventually. Yellowstone is overdue. It may happen in 100 years, maybe 500, maybe 1000, but it will happen

>>15150429
Elon Musk-sama will have a self sufficient martian techno democratic utopia city operational by 2030 at the most.

>>15150429
The earth can support way more than 20billion. Maybe even at current rates of consumption. To fit more nobody in the middle and bottom classes will be able to maintain what is a current lifestyle.

Also how long before it's 40billion. We don't have much of a window to leave before we ruin our way of life by refusing to venture into the unknown to learn and grow.

My generation can't afford to do as the boomers did and take everything from younger generations to support ourselves. The boomers already took it all. There's nothing left for us but rapid expansion or social and economic decline.

I'v read somwhere that they didn't actually use old mice but young mice which they made appear younger by some process then restore them to their normal age

>>15145602
Is this still about metformin?
You can do anything as long as you don't include control groups in your study.

>>15151241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q4O5ztz92o

>>15145890
In 15 years I will have 10 million dolars. If that's not enough I will start a rebellion

>>15146058
Not only that, but the cost of child rearing and the import of skilled workerd.

>>15150708
some of the technologies like the senolytic therapy approach removes all dead and damaged cells from the body and restores you body to its cellular optimum. That means cancer, alzheimers, heart disease and many other conditions would be cured all at the same time

>>15151138
earth's population could fit into a pretty small area if it needed to. Probably not the ideal situation but it puts into perspective how much land we have

>>15151553
Its more about life quality and energy usage, not stacking humans like sardines

>>15148255
I don't think there will be much need for that, few people would want to settle down when they have decades/centuries of being 25 years old ahead
As for places where fertility is a concern, they don't die of old age so we'll be ok for a while

>>15149689
NTA but the research was done on a strain of progerian mice kept specifically for age-related research. Progeria is the result of a genetic defect that causes organisms to age at an accelerated rate.

>>15147629

>there would be no reason to call this news "reverse aging"

There is no reason. They reversed shit. Both mice were exposed to artificial heavy DNA damage. One was "unmodified" and as expected looks like shit after this, the other received a few stem cell factors to mask the outward effects of the DNA damage (or rather the effect of the emergency DNA repair kicking in and messing up the epigenetic makeup of the mouse). The latter btw will likely give the mice cancer, at least these factors are known to do so.

>>15145905
rundown on LSD please, bucket list goal of mine. and how much capital is required for the equipment? i have a commercial myco lab.

>>15145890
The more overt and official it becomes that his handlers want to wipe him out, the more violently he will screech that they will give him immortality in two more weeks. It's mass psychosis.

>>15145905
DNA synthesis specifically still required large scale infrastructure last i checked (a few years ago to be fair). So-called biohackers such as Thought Emporium have to send their designs to corporations to have them assembled.

>>15145602
I'm a layman, but as far as i understand the age reversal was accomplished by destroying a molecular structure located around the cell nucleus, which essentially tells the cell which generation it is. Since the mice experimented on were progerian, and therefore aged much faster than normal, their DNA would have been in much better condition than if they were naturally aged, since fewer instances of cell division would have occured since their conception.

In my understanding, the researchers have essentially found a way to manipulate the "aging" process that most multicellular organisms evolved in order to reduce the rates of cancer and replication errors in cell division, which is not the same thing as curing aging.
Since aging is just a consequence of the entropic nature of the universe, it isn't actually possible to "cure" it, only to delay it.

Even if these mice regain their youth, they will experience more and more frequent and severe degradation in all bodily functions as both their mitochondrial and native cells mutate across successive replication events. We aren't just talking about cancer either, but more subtle deviations that aren't immediately deadly to the cell in question but result in somewhat worse performance and a higher risk of actual cancer.

Now, with modern medicine you might actually live statistically longer if subjected to this treatment, since your body would still be significantly more resilient than its aged counterpart, but i doubt it'd be a massive difference.

>>15152081
>entropic nature of the universe, it isn't actually possible to "cure" it, only to delay it
you really lost me here.
there are spices of animals alive that don't accumulate damage with time, they do not age the way we and most of the animals do.
i think you're confusing biological immortality with physical one.

>>15151868
>There is no reason. They reversed shit. Both mice were exposed to artificial heavy DNA damage. One was "unmodified" and as expected looks like shit after this, the other received a few stem cell factors to mask the outward effects of the DNA damage (or rather the effect of the emergency DNA repair kicking in and messing up the epigenetic makeup of the mouse). The latter btw will likely give the mice cancer, at least these factors are known to do so.

By "unmodified mouse" you mean the old mouse, right? Supposedly the young mouse is the one that was modified because it is the same age as the old mouse and still looks young

The thing is simple, one mouse was genetically modified and the other is a normal mouse without genetic modification. The old mouse is supposed to be the normal mouse without genetic modification

If that's the case then why shouldn't we call it "reversing aging"? it fits perfectly and please argue your answer with a source because so far no one has quoted a fucking source and they are just talking for the talk

>>15152253
>the mouse genetically modified to have a disease is normal
>the one that ages like normal mice is age-reversed
This post is what the final stages of technocratic mental illness looks like. We're gonna have to start culling these "people" some time soon because they will come for your children eventually.

Sounds like more jazzed up garbage studies to keep the real rats in the race making $$ for their owners in the hopes that they will be able to live in some utopian future that will never exist

>>15149640
Typically if you can't have a kid you are a genetic failure. Why would you incentivize the growth of an immortal population of losers. Do you want Chris chan world? Because that kind of policy is exactly how you get Chris chan world.

>>15152159
They will eventually die due to genetic damage given enough time. They are just much simpler with fewer points of failure and no senesence

>>15152359
i agree, this study is fallacious.
they didn't reverse aging, they just fixed a mouse that had a genetic defect

>>15145851
lmao you've never read a scientific paper and it shows

these "cutting edge" papers are usually the most simple, the real "complicated" science is the sperg shit no one except 10 people in the world care about (most of which are physics or chem papers)

>>15145846
Using proteins to repair damaged DNA to original state. Repaired DNA creates proteins without errors that result in "aged" organs and skin.

>>15145619
I have no need for such a theory.

>>15145619
>>15149710
Tranny nanny deleted the first post but know this you faggots, the bigger the temptation, the bigger the test, the bigger the reward for following the right path, that being the Bible.

Can't wait to see the age of superpowers come back for purebloods.

>muh bible
Prots are mentally ill heretics jacking off to "eternal sleep" death cult. Every early figure in the Bible lived 700+ years. Living long doesn't mean you don't get ran over by a truck.

Imagine yelling sola scriptura and not knowing the scriptura. lel

>>15145800
james cameron will make Avatar 50

>>15150814
By that time our technology will be able to prevent or massively mitigate such events

>>15154652
Futurist spotted. Where's my flying car?

>>15145602
One of the many first steps toward extinction.

>>15155234
blame regulators not engineers and scientists for that, cant make it safe enough for the regular retard to drive until maybe AI self driving becomes a thing

>>15145923
Everything, literally everything necessary can be bought from Amazon and sigma

>>15155827
Maybe blame the average person instead of the regulators who realize there'd be thousands of accidents

>>15145602
>Could any scientific expert on this subject explain how the hell they did it? It's unreal


Proof is in the pudding.
Do they have a rat that is alive 3x longer than any other rat... NO!!

Snake oil salesmen.

>>15145904
>Sinclair is a snake oil salesman
Why ? He's just optimistic. SENS has done some human trials, or maybe it's their research has been used in trials in other labs, i can't remember. But yes, there are many human trials for all kinds of things related to anti-ageing, they've been going on for many years. I don't think any are just a single pill that will will make you young again, it's all trials of bits and pieces of the puzzle

If anyone's wondering, David A. Sinclair is the scientist running the research in OPs article. Here's his wikipedia page if anyone's interested, it mentions some of his research
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_A._Sinclair
Here's his book here
https://www.amazon.com/Lifespan-Why-Age_and-Dont-Have/dp/1501191977
Here he is on Joe Rogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eV_dEa6KY0
Here's his lab at harvard
https://sinclair.hms.harvard.edu

>>15146158
>read the big book 3nd edition esperanto translation with commentary by reverend goldhand or you'll burn in HELL
faggot
hell isn't even real, you'd know that if you actually read the bible

>>15145867
A picture of your permanent face expression? Wow!

>>15145602
>Could any scientific expert on this subject explain how the hell they did it? It's unreal

Jesus guys, science is weak here. Simplified explanation
>all cells in body have same genome sequence
>so why are cells different?
>chemical DNA modifications / proteins turn certain specific genes on and off in specific cells, to make them that cell, that tissue. the study of these modifications is "epigenomics" "above the genome"
> stem cells exist throughout the body, divide to make more cells when needed
> non-stem cells will live then die
> over time the stem cells lose their modifications of what genes turn on and off, get shittier -> aging
> years ago researchers came up with gene cocktail that modifies chemical DNA modifications to make a cell 'become' a stem cell (partially developed because GW bush was anti-embryonic research, religious reasons, this is a workaround)
> biotech company puts these genes in a virus, infects mouse, mouse drops genes into cells, makes them stem cell like in epigenomic fashion
> mice receiving virus live longer

The effort itself, making a virus that programs cells, it's pretty routine in cell bio academic labs. Would not be hard to make it and inject it into a person, right now.

The cancer concern is (1) actually not all cells in the body have the same sequence. there are mutations, which happen as early as when you're a fetus (2) these stem-cell factors are implicated in many cancers for self-evident (growth) reasons

This is NOT an immortality medicine. It doesn't solve DNA mutations. It doesn't solve macrostructural problems. It won't deliver this virus to every cell, many cells will remain "old"

>>15156923
Thanks for the debunk on this, anon. Kind of figured it wouldn't be so easy.

>>15145602
How many first times has it been now?

>>15151553
What about the fuel use, trees for toilet paper, energy use, and plastics disposal among other things?

>>15145619
It's not. OT niggas lived until thousand years sometimes. You think they perpetually looked 95 or they only got properly old in their 700's?

>>15148255
West is already below replacement rate and we could do with more people from developed world. Plus if humanity makes it out of Earth, they'll need colonists. Anti-aging and aging reversal doesn't mean immortality indefinitely and you have other causes of mortality beside. Plus some disease and illnesses are unrelated to aging, so people will still die.

>>15145717
>>15146210
People built it thinking, they will become as great as God himself. This was the reason for him destroying their work. Not the work itself

>>15155234
We survived supervolcano eruptions in prehistoric times when there were far fewer of us and we had basically no technology, you're telling me that in 500+ years we won't have the technology to protect ourselves from a volcano, especially when seismologists will be able to predict its arrival

>>15156098
They did that in 2005, the average life expectancy for house mice is about 1 to 2 years and they made one live 5 years

>>15157291
No technology is the key anon. The power grid would be destroyed by a supervolcano. Unless you want to go back to foraging for food

>>15148202
Anyone that can give us access to a copy please?

>>15148202
I've had someone go
>well, that's just the cost of research I guess
>I'm sure the paper must be worth it
>well it's good of you to support the original scientists!
when I told them what articles cost.

Boomers really were conditioned to get assfucked by industry prices, weren't they?

>>15145602
>Could any scientific expert on this subject explain how the hell they did it? It's unreal

You answered your own question.
Literally.

>>15145800
Implying it's ever going to be a choice for the not ultra rich.

I'v been thinking about this, if it only took one gene to stop aging there would be people in history who lived to 200 because thats how evolution works, nature throws random shit on the wall and see what stick.

on the other hand progéria does exist, and while it looks like aging, it is unlikely to be the same process.

>>15156262
>hell isn't even real, you'd know that if you actually read the bible
Not according to the sages of Judaism, but if you want to go with your own interpretation instead of the interpretation of people that received an tradition since the time of Moses and that dedicate their entire lives to studying the Torah, be my guest I guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UYrFzf0B1I