/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15135063
My mom told me that proton decay triggers the big crunch and new big bang. I'm not sure if she was joking or not. Sometimes the things she says makes me think she isn't from. Well nevermind.

If proton decay is FALSE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_decay))

then there is no afterlife / heaven / hell

game over

>>15135063
cool minecraft reference

>>15135063
wrong

If reality is a black hole
Then observation from the outside in is impossible.
Except from the reflections in the soap bubble popping out of it.

>>15135063
>materialistic view on afterlife
cringe midwit shit
show me the number 1, where is its matter?

>>15135063
oh noooo no tooth fairy

>>15135063
>implying there aren't other plausible mechanisms for how an afterlife could exist

https://alwaysasking.com/is-there-life-after-death/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65jdcvSOOjI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w13yLq16QiM

Materialism really is a religion isn't it?

>>15135063
Why?
>>15135068
lel

>>15135510
>>15135615
Materialists have never been able to give an adequate answer to the vertiginous question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertiginous_question

>>15135063
>the afterlife may or may not exist
agnostics win again

>>15135063
If there is an afterlife then the soul is immaterial.

>>15135063
You assume incorrectly that this universe is all there is.

>>15135063
worst thread of the day

>>15135063
How so? I am not a believer but most religions tend to have some sort of metaphysics, presumably metaphysics which do not obey the laws of this universe.

>>15135612
The problem with that is that it misunderstands what nonexistence is. Time isn't "infinite" when your dead, its simply not there. Time is a sense that we evolved to be able to draw cause and effect between events, and as psychedelics have proven its completely reliant on the brain. You remove the brain you remove time, simple as.

>>15135067
That's what Roger Penrose thinks. When nothing exists anymore but photons, there are no entities left for whom time and space have any meaning. Then there's nothing left to do but have a new big bang.
Cyclic Conformal Cosmology I think he calls it.

>>15135063
Just make new protons via pair-production.

>>15137376
The thing I came into the thread to say.
Proton decay is the best-case scenario, because as soon as the last particle decays the last reference frame also disappears and every photon is suddenly "back" in the same place.
I think he also mentioned something about entities at the heat death of the universe possibly being able to encode themselves into the starting conditions for the next universe, which is cool but also terrifying because if that's possible there are definitely quasi-gods kicking around somewhere in our universe.

>>15137314
that just proves his point tard

>>15137647
Materialism really does sound like schizophrenia when you get down to it.

>>15137656
Conformal cyclic cosmology is actually more compatible with dualism than pure materialism, it's just that everything to do with the mind starts to sound very schizo if you make a serious attempt to explain the mechanics of it.

nohing is wasted
only reproduced

>>15135063
>>15135068
Proton decay has no bearing on the possibility of an an afterlife. /thread

>>15135063
Boltzmann brains counter your proton decay. If you have enough patience.