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was it worth it, /sci/?
was it worth letting public-health officials run amok saying that conservative protests are superspreader events but lefty BLM riots are not?

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/commentary-8-things-us-pandemic-communicators-still-get-wrong

>With COVID, the politicization watershed moment may have been the antiracism protests that followed the murder of George Floyd. Public health professionals who had condemned anti-lockdown demonstrations as horribly dangerous super-spreader events found ways to embrace anti-racism demonstrations as somehow not really dangerous at all. Some said racism was a public health crisis and so antiracism demonstrations were public health achievements, even in the middle of vaccine-less surges. I think that's the moment when the public health profession got identified by many on the right as a left-leaning enterprise they shouldn't trust.

>> No.15125448
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>>15125031
Vaccines are the cause in the rapid rise in autism in recent decades.

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>>15125031
The increase of "vaccines" for mostly non-fatal diseases such as chicken pox, Hepatitis etc. in the last 40 years has caused an explosion in the rates of autism among younger Millennials and especially Zoomer generations.

>> No.15125452

>>15125031
Can't say I blame them for turning down the other vaccines at this point. Trust is through the floor.

>> No.15125454

>>15125452
Couple months ago, over 10,000 military personnel were getting what they thought were flu shots, but through a "mistake" they were given the Covid "vaccine" "boosters" instead.

A "mistake". 10,000+ people. Sure.

Nobody with any sense trusts doctors and medical industry anymore.

>> No.15126012

>>15125450
>>15125448
Proof? Why are you latching onto one of the most consistently disproven anti-vax theories?

>> No.15126018

>>15126012
Besides, if vaccines caused autism, we surely would finally have bio-markers for autism but we don't. So it's little more than just panicking around what is a made-up diagnosis with little to no medical value and an nicrease in vaccine uptakes. Classical propter hoc ergo hoc.

>> No.15126046

>>15126012
Has it been disproven or simply not proven? The original paper that kicked off interest in the connection has been rightfully retracted since it was pretty much garbage but that's not the same thing as being able to say the connection has been disproven. There is a rather strong correlation but of course there have been other changes over the same period with similarly strong correlations, even if less plausible theories as to how they could be causal.

>> No.15126078

>>15125448
horseshit
screen time is the rapid rise in "autism" and it's not autism, it's just extreme antisocial behaviour caused by mindwarping internet and tv access.

>> No.15126079

>>15126046
>Has it been disproven or simply not proven?
You can't really ever prove the negative of a statement. I simply can't prove that there is no single instance of "autism" that could not have been possibly caused by vaccines. It doesn't help either that we have no clinical or medical test for autism, so the conversation is always bound to revolve around nothing. Do vaccines have side effects? yes. Do they cause autoimmune disorders? In some cases, yes. Can this autoimmune disorders be mistaken for "autism"? Likely yes. Is it autism then? No, it's an autoimmune disorder.

What I can state based on elementary statistical analyses, comparisons and cross-referencing is that 90-95 % of all autism diagnoses cannot be attributed to vaccines.
>What about the remaining 5-10 %?
The possibility there simply isn't ruled out but it isn't affirmative either.
>There is a rather strong correlation
I think, we're missing the big picture it. Autism as it is understood today has nothing to do in practice with the concept of autism 30 years ago. The epidemic of severe autism simply didn't come as we were promised. What we have is an epidemic of socially shy or disengaged kids who get autism diagnoses.

>> No.15126087

personally I think all the autism stuff is from microplastics

>> No.15126222
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>>15125031
covid is a hoax, no matter how many nonsense words you write pretending it's real

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>>15126018
Cut them open.
Check teir brains.
It's aluminium and mercury in their brains.

And its also a disperse psychriatic problem.
Not only meme Autism.
But all mental diseases...
Which can be caused by neurotoxins deposited in the brain.


They just rebranded erethism.
Its metal poisoning.

Everything our your has, is on the rethism spectrum.
And everyone gets injected with mercury and aluminium.
Which are both neurotoxins.
Eating the myeline sheath and causing neurological problems.

Plus the fucking constant shit in TV and Internet.

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>>15125031
I would say this is a big win. You shouldn't trust the medical industry. The combine is one of the greatest threats to humanity.

I look forward to all the doctors and nurses on this board finding themselves without a job, unemployable, and despised by all.

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>>15125031
this is bad. these kids will grow up with their fertility intact, thus exacerbating the already horrifying effects of climate change.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UQYTb9DwKjQ

>> No.15126405 [DELETED] 

>>15125448
>72 doses
This can't be real

>> No.15126424

good. vaxxies and pill poppers ruin the gene pool with their dependancy on pharma to not die.

>> No.15126427

>>15125031
>"I think that's the moment when the public health profession got identified by many on the right as a left-leaning enterprise they shouldn't trust."
I like how he blames people on the right for noticing, and "communicators" (propagandists) for letting it slip, instead of his establishment for being a left-learning enterprise no one should trust.

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>>15126405
It's amount of doses.
See here:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html#birth-15

If you are having fun with maths.
You can try to calculate the amount of aluminium injected in the form of aluminium hydroxide or aluminium phosphate up to year 18.

It's amazing.
Especcially if you consider the weight of an infant within the first 15 months.
How much aluminium per kg bodyweight got injected into them.
Since it is a toxin, it's weight dependent.

I wonder what would happen if you would inject the proportional equivalent of Aluminium Hydroxide/phosphate into a 80kg adult.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/dtap-tdap-td/hcp/about-vaccine.html
> so for example a infant DTaP vaccine that normally contains 1.5mg of Aluminium phosphate for an infant that weighs 2-4kg he would get it adjusted for his body weight (lets say 80kg)
> so he would just get some adjuvant shots, without any active ingredient
> just the aluminium hydroxide or phosphate

> in the case of the Deptacel vaccine
> if infant would be 1.5mg/4kg Aluminium Phosphate
> and then for your doctor it would be 15mg of aluminium phosphate.

I wonder what type of reactions it would have...

> just getting the so called inactive ingredients
> so recieves the same amount of doses and the same proportional amounts of any other adjuvant or inactive compound like: glutaraldehyde, formaldehyde, 2-phenoxyethanol, polysorbate 80, etc.

> only the inactive ingredients!
> just to prove that the inactive ingredients are indeed inactive

I mean they do the same in placebo studies.
There they always use either a different vaccine or a adjuvanted placebo just without the virus particles as comperator...
Would be interesting...

>> No.15126562

>>15125031
Everything the medical experts said about vaccines were correct. While not 100% safe they're safer than the disease which they prevent and are the best method for ending a pandemic.

The problem was the spread of misinformation on the internet which we aren't prepared for as a society and our laws which are inadequate to address. What the Covid pandemic taught us is that we need to better control the spread of misinformation and properly teach our citizens.

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>>15125031
Go back to your containment board, incel.

>> No.15126565

>>15126562
Your narrative is dead. You lost. Go back.

>> No.15126572

>>15126565
t. white trash virgin NEET who lives in his moms basement

You're career prospects are dead. You're a loser. Take your meds and try to get on welfare.

>> No.15126576

>>15126572
Kill yourself projecting schizophrenic and a failure in the field of science, I'm not him though

>> No.15126582

>>15126572
>an explosion of impotent rage
Not gonna help you. People are turning against you at an ever-increasing rate.

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15126828

CAN'T STOP ADDICTED TO THE GOYSLOP
THIS SONG IS MORE THAN JUST A GOYBOP
USE MY HEAD FOR EVERYTHING BUT THINKING
I DON'T CARE IF THIS WHOLE SHIP IS SINKING

THE COMFORT I LOVE, THE SHOTS I CLOT
TO BE IN SOCIETY, NO THOUGHT
EVER WONDER IF IT'S, ALL FOR YOU?

>> No.15126852

>>15125031
>was it worth letting public-health officials run amok saying that conservative protests are superspreader events but lefty BLM riots are not?
Why would that cause a decline in childhood vaccination rates? How about the fact that many people never gave much consideration to the potential dangers of vaccination, but the way the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines have been handled caused parents to think more critically about all vaccines? It's kind of ironic that officials wanted to mandate the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, and in the process may have caused uptake for other vaccines to decline.

>> No.15126860

>>15126018
>Besides, if vaccines caused autism, we surely would finally have bio-markers for autism
We do. There's a link between autoimmune diseases and autism. There's a link between autoimmune diseases and vaccines. Basically, when you fuck with the immune system, especially at a very early age, unintended consequences can occur.

>> No.15126870

>>15126539
>You can try to calculate the amount of aluminium injected in the form of aluminium hydroxide or aluminium phosphate up to year 18.
The counter to this has always been that dietary intake of aluminum is much higher than in a single vaccine. The counter to that would be that aluminum is typically poorly absorbed from the digestive tract, and then more is removed from first pass through the liver, whereas vaccines lead to it entering directly into the blood stream. Plus the number of required vaccines is getting absurd.

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>>15126870
>The counter to this has always been that dietary intake of aluminum is much higher than in a single vaccine.

To equate digestion with ingestion is the most retarded midwit argument ever.


Yes.
This is absolutely retarded.
I can no problem drink 2 tablespoons or 6000mg of potassium citrate dissolved in one glas of water. On a daily basis and nothing happens accpet my digestion would get a little fucked.

Bit if inject only 1mg of potassium citrate I would die instantly by an alkalic shock or would get cramps, collapse, swell up and would prolly later get cardiac arrest.

And it wouldn't matter if it's intramsucular.
Because ionizable shit can pass through the endothelium and move between the capillary system and the interstitium.

>> No.15127109

>>15126392
>I look forward to all the doctors and nurses on this board finding themselves without a job, unemployable, and despised by all.
Doctors are in higher demand than ever, most doctors are retiring in the next 5-10 years and the population gets older every year.
I will be just fine, schizo

>> No.15127113

>>15125448
Its really about low child mortality. Most kids need to die of whatever so that only the fit ones grow up. Most of our parents are defective.
We need 50% child mortality

>> No.15127209

>>15127109
>Doctors are in higher demand than ever

Just wait to see the demand after people can no longer deny what happened with the covid vax.

You won't even be able to sleep people will want you so badly!

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>>15126012
>Proof?
The proof is in the second post, and in all evidence and studies that aren't financed by corporations, asshole big-pharma pimp.

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>>15126392
>I look forward to all the doctors and nurses on this board finding themselves without a job, unemployable, and despised by all.
You are way too lenient and kind.
Big pharma and their over-vaccination of children are crimes against humanity.

>> No.15127230

>>15127109
>I will be just fine,
Wow, that's funny and pathetically sad that you pose as a doctor.
You are probably just one step away from being suicidal.

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>>15127109
>Doctors are in higher demand than ever,

>> No.15127239

>>15126562
I hope you die a very painful death.

>> No.15127249

>>15127235
Based villagers.

>> No.15127261

>>15127235
The best part is we now have 500 years more knowledge to torture them in even more satisfying ways.

Life will be comfy for those of us who are still alive.

>> No.15127285

>>15127235
aint reading all that shit nigga

>> No.15127669

>>15125031
Maybe parents who were born in the 80s and who received only 4 or 5 vaccines realized that they were just fine without needing a needle stuck in their arm every 2 weeks.

>> No.15127674

>>15125031
>>15127239
>>15127249
>>15127261
>>15127285
>>15127669
meds

>> No.15127675

>>15127261
make them listen to Rhianna and watch Oprah all day? Sounds awful torture.

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>>15125031
>I think that's the moment when the public health profession got identified by many on the right as a left-leaning enterprise they shouldn't trust
>guys it totally wasn't the force mandatory masks and shots
>or the mask shortage
>or the sanitizer shortage
>or the complete nation wide job and city shutdown
>or the near shutdown of produce transit
>or the lack of details concerning how the mRNA shot process was developed
>or the constant youtube/online censorship over covid
>or the lack of clearity concerning the state of hospitals
>or the daily political fisticuffs over who takes credit or blame for covid/vaccine handling
>no its because people protested over a dead black man which happened multiple times for the past several decades that now many on the right don't trust don't trust public health profession

>> No.15127720

>>15127715
kek
but muh waysisssm!
waysissm be the world's worst threat right now yo!