/sci/ - Science & Math

delicious cubesat-eating waffles

Mars is Hyperborea.

>>15113580

>>15113577
Without a frame of reference, this gets lost in translation

>>15113585
His nostril is huge

>>15113594
What do you think the F-1 was based on?

>>15113594
Better delta/v due to the wider bell

>>15113594
made for sniffing out Jews (ie. Zubrin)

Bringing up the discussion again: If NASA decided the shuttle was too ambitious and/or they had less budget, and they decided to keep flying Apollo capsules but on Titan rockets by the mid 70’s, how would history be different
>USA probably starts building a modular station in the 80’s
>No real change to planetary probes (launch on Titan)
>More budget for other NASA missions
Here’s some really interesting thoughts
>Booster+Hydrogen core architecture likely to never happen (No Ariane 5, H-II, Delta IV, etc.)
>”Commercial Resupply” May never happen (No SpaceX or NewSpace)
>Gigantic SRBs on Titan still pose the issue of melting parachutes in case of an abort (Challenger still happens?)
Thoughts?

>>15113612
Zubrin and Isaacman seem like good guys desu

>>15113619
Oddly it would have saved the Saturn V.
>Apollo can reboost Skylab
>this means Skylab can become an entire series of S-IVB dry workshops in different orbits
>one Big Stick a year either becomes a deep space launch or a new space station component
>launching 2-3 a year would let us build a spingrav station by 1990
>Apollo gets decades of refinement due to Moore's Law so it becomes light enough to launch fully fueled on a Titan
>this justifies a Gateway like station since we have cheap reliable lunar crew transport/return
We'd still have a need for a reusable space truck with 20 tons of downmass and a robot arm but that could be done separately from crew and return by splash down instead of needing to be a spaceplane.

>>15113619
I think a lifting body would have replaced Apollo capsules by the early 80's. The navy would have got pissed off deploying recovery ships for non-Moon missions.

>>15113623
I'm just making a very poor joke

>>15113644
Increasing trajectory control due to better computers would have helped a lot too. Apollo was just "aim for the Pacific Ocean and pray you don't hit an island," but Dragon and Orion returns are super accurate so they can land close to shore.

>>15113644
IIRC there were studies done to see if an Apollo capsule could land on dry land like Starliner. IE: using airbags.

It is interesting to think about how Apollo would be optimized for LEO missions. There was actually one or two CSMs built to hand crews of five for Skylab rescue missions, but they never flew. It’s likely the CSM would be cut down in size, and maybe switch from fuel cells to solar panels, or just use batteries for the transit to space stations like some early Baseduzes did

>>15113644
HL-20 was a late 80’s design for a mini spaceplane designed to launch on a Titan

>>15113619
Read Eyes Turned Skyward
Some parts of it may be questionable, like the choice to keep evolving the Saturn 1C, but it's overall good

30 days to Jupiter

https://www.universetoday.com/159145/birds-use-dynamic-soaring-to-pick-up-velocity-we-could-use-a-similar-trick-to-go-interstellar/

>>15113619
Read Eyes Turned Skyward
Some parts of it may be questionable, like the choice to keep evolving the Saturn 1, but it's overall good

>>15113669
>>15113644

I’ve been playing stock KSP with visual mods and it’s actually very fun. Sure it’s not RSS/RO but it’s a good challenge to try to recreate IRL vehicles using stock parts.

>>15113673
Gleason is doing some of the most interesting work in astronautics today. He's based.

>>15113612
von braun is the sniffer??

>>15113689
Of course it would be an SS officer sniffing out Jews.

>>15113687
*Greason, and yeah super based. I wish he had more funding at least to demo the tech

>>15113676
>keep evolving the Saturn 1
based

>>15113687
Electric sails blow me away I wanna see the tech demonstrated so bad, and if it takes 30 days to Jupiter then its probably no more than 2 years from Neptune after Jupiter gravity assist

>>15113692
Is it part of NASA NIAC program? If not they should apply for it to get more funding

so they just stack it and that's it? 2 more weeks until the next static fire right?

>>15113700
WDR
destack
33 engine static fire
finish tiling S24
restack
...
launch (hopefully)

>Electric sail won't work in Earths magnetosphere
>has to be deployed in deep space

Well there's one use for Gateway

>>15113703
>TWO YEARS
yeah im done

>>15113700
We’ll see. People on L2 say there will be a few WDRs while stacked and I stacked first.

Also new info: the clamps on the launch mount have been fixed a bit. If at most FIVE of the 20 don’t release, it’s not a big deal on liftoff because they have a frangible bolt. Those five can’t all be next to each other though.

Also SpaceX decided another static fire with Ship 26 is probably not worth it. It might happen, it might not; who knows

>>15113619
The USSR doesn’t end up wasting billion of rubles on their need to have a spaceplane of their own and the Energia is more likely to emerge in a super heavy lift moon rocket form.

>>15113703
I would assume they would still do static fire with fully stacked rocket, wouldn't they?

>>15113706
The good news is SS doesn't need our attention to progress.

>>15113698
Dunno, maybe some parts. But I've heard him mention that NIAC is woefully unequipped and underfunded to really bring any of these technologies to fruition, and that goes for most meaningful stuff NIAC is helping develop

>>15113701
Wtf this Falcon Heavy launch feels like it snuck up on us

>>15113704
Gateway is literally an optimal spot for an interplanetary high-port.
>outside the magnetosphere
>under 2km/s needed to escape Earth
>constant comms link with Earth
>close to the moon if they ever get lunar ISRU working
We just need something bigger than Cygnus based cuck cans in NRHO.

>>15113709
>Titan-derived super heavy lift launcher to compete with Energia
Bros…

>>15113711
Nah apparently they won’t

>>15113718
Exactly, I can foresee Artemis I style experiments being loaded into HLS exterior for deployment at NRHO or before or at Gateway

Nanoracks style airlock for deploying electric sail cubesats out of Gateway and into wherever they want to go because they can reach 30 AU in 1 year

>>15113669
which was a direct copy of the soviet BOR program, which an evolution of the Spiral program

>>15113712
Ummmm hellooooo? Meme magick

>>15113715
If Bezos wasn't a fag he'd fund Greason and just ask for his name on the Jupiter probe or something. Its peanuts compared to his other vanity projects.

I still think the gateway is more exciting than Artemis 3

>>15113726
>Billions for Yachts
>Pennies for Blue Origin

>>15113715
Frustrating, I get the same sense too, meanwhile NASA is dicking around with solar sails, which are useless past Mars

This video mentions that the electric sail proposal HERTS is at NIAC Phase II, and that was from 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pIl_cv3OkA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Institute_for_Advanced_Concepts
It has not advanced to Phase III since then, I feel like NIAC really is fucking useless or the concept harder to implement than originally thought idk why everything is going so slow

>>15113726
bezos would rather piss it away on oldspace boomer faggot fucker honeywell veterans fffffFFFFUCK THEM

>>15113720
>Nah apparently they won’t
why?

>>15113734
It's due to how rare/expensive moon missions have been.

>>15113738
No idea man

>>15113740
Right, I'm hoping Gateway provides a good platform for stuff like electric and solar sail deployment like ISS is now with cubesat deployments

>>15113734
I hate solar sails like you wouldnt believe. anyway, NIAC is basically just not doing the job it was designed to do. leadership needs to push the fuck out of it and sell it to congress and get actual funding. it's the one thing i actually think government could be useful at, so of course it's underfunded

>>15113748
The electric sail seems like a new concept only discovered last decade 2010's so I'm guessing that's why NASA is sleeping on it

>>15113707
…okay but why can’t they just let go? You say that like 20% failure rate is like fine and stuff for space flight

>>15113676
>Once a spunky flyer, Peggy is now filled with regret as she confronts the end of her life, but Kathy is determined to make her last months count by securing Peggy long overdue recognition, appreciating her anew, and forgiving her before it’s too late.
I'm gonna guess this isn't what you're talking about.

>>15113751
Greason himself says JPL is totally content waiting a decade for a probe to simply do gravity assists and close solar flybys, so long as NASA uses JPL's patented parker probe heat shielding technology.

>>15113759
Well I'm not content with that

>>15113722
> Mariner 2.0 flyby probes being launched to Kuiper belt objects every 6 months with 5< yr travel times
hnnng but you'd need nuclear of some sort to power them out there and rtgs are a pita. maybe atomic batteries can step up?

In the future when someone says planetary probe what will come to mind is not a slow lumbering decade long voyage on ion propulsion to do a singly flyby or get into orbit after 10 gravity assists, it will be a a fleet of speedy cubesats with electric sails zooming into the outer solar system at rapid speeds returning huge science for further follow on landers or atmospheric probes to investigate

>>15113757
billions for jpl, pennies for experimental deep space propulsion
>>15113764
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/niac_bios_all.html
maybe email these guys lol

>>15113769
Was literally just reading about this thing yesterday
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2023/Radioisotope_Thermoradiative_Cell_Power_Generator/
Would solve the issue

>>15113757
nah lol, it's on alternatehistory.com

>>15113777

>>15113772
Whats the point they're not in charge of how much funding they get, Congress is

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1612868410316099604

Falcon Heavy static fire done!

>>15113777
>This technology will allow a proliferation of small versatile spacecraft with power requirements not met by photovoltaic arrays or bulky, inefficient MMRTG systems. This will directly enable small-sat missions to the outer planets as well as operations in permanent shadow such as polar lunar craters.

Combine this with electric sails and boom

>>15113778
>space dark ages forced fans to play pretend and create their own fantasy realm where complete stagnation doesnt reign supreme
God how hopeless it must have felt

https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/1612761216702726146

RIP LauncherOne. It disentegrated upon reentry.

>>15113781
What if USSF-67 is OTV-7

>>15113784
That fiction was started the same month STS 135 landed lol...

>>15113780
tell them to get off their ass and get that funding for their program. pay bribes, talk to representatives, talk to actual policymakers, do outreach. holy shit there's so much they could do that they arent doing. nobody even knows their fucking names, theyre shit leaders. people knew zurbuchen and leuders and gerst and bridenstine. bridenstine was absolute king of outreach. they should take a page out of his book and sell their program

>>15113787
>X-37B on Falcon Heavy
Why?

>>15113794
Higher orbit idunno

>>15113720
If the USSR fields something like the Energia-Herakles the US would likely try building one of the Barbarian super-heavies. Then both players are going into the late eighties with launchers capable of launching Polyus and Zenth Star weapons platforms and the final years of the Cold War start to get REALLY interesting.

>>15113777
Cool but if its Pu-238 we're back to the bottleneck of its production rate

>>15113802
That I don't know lol, but good point

>>15113792
Congress needs to prioritize R&D priority, instead I think in the 2023 NASA budget they gave that low priority...

Recently learned of this propulsion concept. It apparently has crazy high ISP, basically it's similar to a solar sail but you take the photon source with you. Thoughts?

>>15113810
>heat source reflected
There's no way its as much as the solar wind (750km/s)

I’m not really versed in this topic, so forgive me if I’m mistaken.
I’m pretty sure a lot of anons here have heard of that successful fusion experiment where the change in energy was positive (i.e energy was produced/generated and not consumed like all previous iterations). What does this mean for space flight? Does it mean that we can travel for longer distances? Can we go faster? Will rockets be much lighter now because there would no longer be any need for the vast amounts of jet fuel?

>>15113851
Fusion powered rockets for spaceflight wouldn't use the fusion method (with lasers) that NIF did but if they hold a lot of promise for spaceflight propulsion like just look at this shit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Fusion_Drive

1 ton spacecraft to Pluto in 4 years

>>15113571
That's actually a fairly elegant solution considering how many tank issues Russia had in its day.

>>15113851
The recent hubbub was about inertial confinement fusion and doesn't mean much for spaceflight. Sheared-flow stabilized Z-pinch is the one to watch.

>>15113861
direct fusion > Z-pinch

>>15113851
It's not a breakthrough, just a bit of progress. If I remember currently, they used 300 MJ laser to achieve fusion.
https://youtu.be/JurplDfPi3U

>>15113872
zpinch has lower mass

>>15113854
Yo that’s a very nice device.
I’m sometimes reluctant to pursue my dream of becoming an astronaut because they do very little space travel/exploration. Mostly they just go to the ISS, and then go back to earth. Fug bros I just wish we can explore more planets. I want to be there.

>>15113877
Not really, both are compact fusion reactors, direct fusion drive uses a portion of its reaction to power the rest of the spacecraft and its systems, can z-pinch do that or is it only propulsion

>>15113879
That's pretty much all they do for like 10 years now but at least with Artemis some of them are gonna be going to the moon and Gateway I guess, and maybe Mars in another decade or so hopefully

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-to-host-media-update-on-space-station-plans-soyuz-status

>Average weight of an European adult
156.1 lbs
>Weight of 1 million Europeans
156100000 or 156.1 million pounds
>SpaceX Starship cargo capacity to LEO
220,000lb
>Number of SpaceX Starship launches to lift 1 million white people into space
Roughly 710 assuming all humans smashed into a box with no life support of any kind. More like 1000 launches if you expect them to live. No add a few thousand more launches to lift materials into space to build ships and habitats. So ten years of non stop SpaceX launches rain or shine? That's the plan? Really?


So super brains of /SFG/ explain how any of these stupid rockets and Elon Musk fever dreams ever make us a space based species? Only the richest and most evil humans will ever see space at this rate. You idiots can't do basic math to realize none of you are ever leaving Earth. If you continue to focus on rockets and other inefficient means of escaping the gravity well you will doom humanity and you couldn't care less.

>>15113895
>Roughly 710 assuming all humans smashed into a box with no life support of any kind. More like 1000 launches if you expect them to live.
optimistic

>>15113895
You just proved all my dreams are a total lie...i will go kms now........

>>15113895
Well there are other forms of travel.
We’ve all seen the tic tac videos, we’ve all heard of ex government officials speaking of black projects where test flights have been conducted on non-propulsion based flying objects.
>verification not required

>>15113895
>Number of SpaceX Starship launches to lift 1 million white people into space
>Roughly 710

>>15113908
how many km/s

>>15113851
>where the change in energy was positive
Only if you cook the books by ignoring how much energy it took to run the laser, and only count the energy in the laser beam itself. And I recall hearing that they were still doing creative accounting on even that.
It's literally useless as a source of nuclear power, I have never heard even a half-decent hand-wave on how they plan to capture use the released energy. What it actually is, is a way to test nuclear bomb tech in miniature. Not that there's a problem with that, it just has no relation to how you build a power plant, much less a rocket engine.
>What does this mean for space flight?
ABSORUTERY NOTHING!
Do you really think they can cram a building full of 200 lasers into a space ship, and still have anything left but a crater in the ground for a mass budget? Alpaca has nothing on that kind of negative mass budget.

>>15113895
How many americans?

>>15113619
>>15113676
Meanwhile in mirror universe:
>US launches the first satellite
>USSR achieves parity short afterwards
>USSR announces going to Moon, manages to get N-1 going with only minor issues
>Saturn keeps blowing up because they never been able to fix instability or whatever
>Apollo cancelled after technical issues, less funding allocated (say, US invaded Cuba because USSR didn't put missiles there or whatever) and Apollo 1 roasting astronauts alive being the last straw
>USSR lands on the Moon on LM-1"Oryol"
>US focuses on space stations to gain experience for planetary fly-by and eventually landing to one up Soviets
>builds World and Peace modular stations
>USSR puts all their money on developing Chelnok spaceplane, get it working but it ends up actually under-delivering on what they hoped for
>their big station, NeLa (short for Nebesnaya Laboratoriya) de-orbits when Chelnok is delayed
>US starts its own spaceplane (under codename Stormrider) to maintain parity after USAF insists they could be used as bombers
>USSR goes bankrupt and dissolves because communism sucks ass even in bizarro universe
>planetary fly-by plans cancelled/postponed indefinitely
>ISS still gets build by American Shuttles, serviced by Russian Baseduzes

>>15113896
The realistic number of tons it would take to get 5,000 people and a habitat to support them into orbit would be much much worse. I'm just pointing out with basic napkin math and best case everything it all proves chemical rockets are nothing more then novelties that accomplish nothing. What's the point of doing anything in space unless we are working towards living in space? We need deep space mining operations and deep space stations near Jupiter. There are limitless resources and space in our solar system and we have no viable way to access any of it. Nor does it seem like well paid scientists and "leaders" care to fund real projects that could mean human progress.

Why capture an asteroid out in space, hopefully steer it into orbit without smashing it into Earth, then keep it in orbit while you send people to mine it. Why do all that instead of sending a small crew TO THE ASTEROID to mine it safely in deep space and send the concentrated materials back to Earth? Except with thousands of asteroids? It's madness and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

Once we get a base set of humans and material into space they can grow and harvest while in space. This spark of progress will NEVER happen with chemical rockets.

soyuz

>>15113926
Terminal velocity for at least a few seconds, depending on how high up he jumps from.

>>15113926
1 i guess or less. ultimately 0 :(

>>15113908
>>15113913
Join the team, there is a way. The way is not rockets.

https://youtu.be/dqwpQarrDwk
>>15113930
Burgers are riding 30 pounds heavier per person, you do the math.

>Verification not required.

listen, if you want to do things the fast way you might want to look into the Skunk Works wormhole routers. make sure you've made peace with what come out the other side.

>>15113931
More like
>US launches first satellite
>Korolev gets sacked for the humiliation
>Chelomei and Glushko get the green light for Making a NTR powered launcher
>we land on Mars in the 70s

Remember that fraud company that tried to kickstart a mars mission?

Hilarious times

>>15113895
Average European astronaut is a frenchman. Frenchman weigh ~175 lb on average. So each starship can carry ~1260 frenchman. So the number is 794 Starship is required to lift 1 million frenchman to space. Mass size.

Boeing 747 has ~500 cubic meter of volume + 40+ cubic meter for baggages. It can carry 540 passengers. For simplicity's sake, we can deduce 1 passenger per 1 sq meter. Starship has 1000 cubic meter of usable space. That means for all intents and purposes it can carry 1000+ passenger, volume wise.

So the limiting factor for Starship isn't volume, but mass, for carrying humans from one side of the world to another.

>>15113960
>So the limiting factor for Starship isn't volume, but mass, for carrying humans from one side of the world to another.
Err I mean its mass, not volume.

Given 1260 frenchman per starship by mass and 1000 frenchman per starship by volume.

Thus, you'd need 1000 starship.

>>15113881
Sheared flow Z-pinch is self powering by default after the first shot (need some chemical fuel cells or solar panels to fill the capacitors when cold) so you could tune it to push an extra bit into the system batteries as well as the drive's own capacitor banks.

>>15113958
I never believed them

>>15113958
>Remember that fraud company that tried to kickstart a mars mission?
spacex?

>>15113958
>Indiegogo

Now let us look to the hit movie The Martian. Where many noted science fags were paid well to consult. Here is the Hermes mothership used to transit the crew and supplies between Mars and Earth. A very sensible depiction of what a real crew would want and need on the 7 month trip. It's said the Hermes took 10 years of work and launches to build, a single space craft for a very small crew.

Dr Space Nigger even said this about the fictional craft.
> in the universe of The Martian, it is "the most complex and expensive object ever built"

It's a very well researched idea of what we could currently do at max capacity for a decade. One awesome but small crew mission to a planet next door. It's still just a novelty to 99.99% of humanity.

We humans can build MASSIVE ships and stations in the Earth-Luna orbits and launch them deeper into space with ease. Once the people and base materials are off the Earth and in orbit the rest is trivial. So it is that our main, and only true issue, is the inability to lift literal train sized loads of steel, water, and even dirt into space.

What we need is a train to fucking space!

https://youtu.be/HQhmsDkZhQA

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/marshall/news/news/releases/2016/nasa-begins-testing-of-revolutionary-e-sail-technology.html

>NASA Begins Testing of Revolutionary E-Sail Technology
>2016

Literally nothing mentioned about it after this point, its weird

>>15113969
nobody did

>>15113986
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/heliopause-electrostatic-rapid-transit-system-herts/
>Dr. Pekka Janhunen of the Finnish Meteorological Institute (FMI) - has examined a number of missions of scientific discovery where the E-Sail propulsion system will provide rapid transits so various researchers could begin to get data back from outer planetary missions within 1 to 2 years of launch.

>within 1-2 years of launch

It's almost like they want to suppress it.

>>15113980
that shuttle cockpit slapped in the middle will never not bother me. i guess that's what happens when artists use reference photos without understanding the purpose of what it is they're looking at

New Info from L2. SpaceX now plans on doing the 33 engine static fire while fully stacked . Imo it makes more sense anyways but still

>>15113990
Ask not what JPL can do for you, ask what you can do for JPL. And what they'd like you to do is be a paypig simp who doesn't bother them with superior propulsion ideas tyvm.

>>15114004
But its Marshall SFC that undertook this project, they wouldn't let JPL tell them what to do

>>15113997
>Imo it makes more sense anyways but still
How, how does risking S24 make more sense, and image the amount of tiles that will come off it, fuck

>>15113997
your posts are highly appreciated. Yes all engine static make more sense during full stack

>>15114014
How would launch be any better? If tiles are shaken off now it's not a good sign for February.

>>15114018
Maybe its worse if its held down vs. released seconds after igniting idk

Personally I'm very confident a few tiles can fall off. Remember stainless steel melts above the reentry temperature and it's also cooled by the gas behind it and the steel surrounding the exposed steel segment.

>Selected as a Phase II NIAC Fellow in 2015, the HERTS team was awarded an additional $500,000 to further test the E-Sail and possibly change not only the way NASA travels to the heliopause, but also within our solar system.

>“As the team studied this concept, it became clear that the design is flexible and adaptable,” said Wiegmann. “Mission and vehicle designers can trade off wire length, number of wires and voltage levels to fit their needs -- inner planetary, outer planetary or heliopause. The E-Sail is very scalable.”

Seriously frustrating to see nothing came of this, not even NIAC Phase III after so many years

How long do you all think the "flags and footprints" mission as a concept will last? Mars? Saturn? At some point it must stop making sense.

>>15113944
i cant do math (im american)

>>15114041
Artemis is a pivot away from that flags/footprint mission. But it all depends on SpaceX's ability to deliver cheap/rapid access to the space. If not for SpaceX, then we'd be paying hundreds of billions just to setup a small outpost on the moon that will be abandoned in few years.

We should have sent a hab to the Moon first, then humans.

>>15114041
The Moon. Anything beyond it is impossible for this style of mission due to the long trip.

>>15114018
>>15114021
The difference is that they can still put tiles back on after the static fire. Just because a tile location fell off once doesn't mean its replacement will fall off too. It would be a literal shakedown.

ABL DEMO-1 in one hour. I hope it doesn't take long for them to release a video of it.

>>15114081
exciting :)

>>15114072
Yeah, so it's good to do a static fire with the starship already stacked unless we think the booster will straight up expose

>>15114052
The HLS can serve for that

>>15114081
Do these small launch stragglers really have the funds to continue operations in the current investment climate? Even if they succeed.

Death in space: recycle or eject?

>>15113895
> So ten years of non stop SpaceX launches rain or shine? That's the plan? Really?
no you dumb nigger, the point is to mass produce Starships and then start doing non-stop launches, producing more Starships and doing non-stop launches until a better system is come up with

1000 launches is fucking nothing man, how many ships are launched to cross to ocean every day? how many planes?
retard

>>15114123

>>15114123
free food

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1612903684593299456
anyone here wants to work at Rocket Lab?

>>15114053
Nah, the 30 day stay at Mars architecture still has a few proponents because of muh radiation hazard etc. That would basically be flag and footprints. Its gay af but the idea just won't die.

https://www.space.com/nasa-plans-astronauts-mars-mission-30-days

>Germany will pay 20 mil to SpaceX for the use of Starlink in the Ukraine
lmao, Musk can't stop winning

>>15114136
wouldn't the surface be less radiation hazard than staying in space?

>>15114136
Well, with HOPE they designed f&f out till Jupiter, and frankly I think this architecture could stretch until Saturn.

>>15114123
Ejection like Kane from the Nostromo would be my preferred end

>>15114122
abl is going after responsive launch for the military, who have deep pockets

here's your chink dragon

Interesting stage props. I'm looking forward to the leaks of the studio used to film the moonwalk footage.

>>15114143
LMAO it's actually 20mil euros so $21.47 million
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-minister-promises-weapons-eu-accession-help-surprise-ukraine-trip-2023-01-10/

>>15114152
wow it has the parachute and everything

>>15114123
absolutely recycle! matter is scarce up there. it irks me whenever I see bodies ejected in space as if it they were on a navy ship at sea

>>15114152
Why can't they make anything original?

>>15114160
relax, it's just a plastic play house

>>15114156
>>15114143
Its just pocket money to defense industry, yet the Biden admin made a big stink about it to damage SpaceX's credibility.

How much would it cost to send a corpse on an escape trajectory off the solar system? Would be the most kino burial

>>15114156
>>15114173
The US has been donating an assload more weapons than Germany adjusted for size. So let them pay for Starlink.

>>15114168
>plastic play house

>In August 2021, it was announced that CAS Space was developing a single stage sub-orbital space tourism vehicle which is very similar to Blue Origin's New Shepard rocket. The vehicle, composed of a booster and capsule, would be powered by five Xuanyuan engines. An uncrewed demonstration flight is expected to occur in 2022, then a full-fledged unmanned suborbital flight in 2023, with tourism service to start in 2024

Well, you were right about that. It might look like a crew dragon, but it's really just New Shepard with Chinese characteristics.

>>15114180
Escape velocity is ridiculously high, something like 40 km/s. Every guy would need individual gravity assist plans and service modules for propulsion and such without some kind of propulsion breakthrough

>>15114186
It's another episode of Random Chink """Commercial""" Space Company Makes A Crazy Announcement, Americans Are In Tears. These projects are even less credible than Russian paper space projects. It's almost like cargo culting, or maybe just scamming investors. Either way it's uninteresting to me until one of these shitters land an orbital class booster. first they'd need to actually build one.

>>15114123
Make me into Martian dirt.

>>15114209
*Soil

https://mobile.twitter.com/ablspacesystems/status/1612921208357687296
>Team has polled GO for propellant fill. Updated T0 is 14:18 AKST (23:18 UTC). Current POV is 30% due to triggered lightning.
More one hour and half of wait.

>>15114173
>>15114183
The US is currently funneling money into defense companies that later on funnel it back to the DNC. Of course they didn't want to give it to Musk.

>>15113724
I saw one of the soviet lifting bodies in person at a car show in high school
it was very cool

I definitely don't look as good as Wang Yaping's husband

>>15114229
Would you shut up man? It's making me rich. Lockheed martin to the moon! (via madv ofc)

>>15114135
>Mfw currently in Uni for a Biology degree
It’s over

>>15114229
Is that whats happening? It's all a big grift, war is a racket indeed

>>15114180
If it's just a corpse and a casket that's only a few hundred kg at most. A Falcon 9 could probably do it with a Jupiter assist.
Of course you'd have to pay for the entire rocket unless it was some kind of corpse rideshare

>>15114123
"It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks and become one with all the people." - Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, "Ethics for Tomorrow"
>>15114158
yeah, that body will hit some spaceliner eventually
it's not like ocean where the body gets eaten by sharks and crabs (which in turn will get eaten by Chinamen)

>>15114229
>MUH DEMOCRATS!!!!

>>15114229
Currently funneling money? Compared to what?

>>15114269
What caused that spike on the left?

>>15114272
WWII

>No ABL stream
Why?

>>15114272
A little dispute. But we got it all sorted out.

>>15114135
>no engineering position for degreeless fags
it's over

>>15114180
> ayys find my body millions of years from now, clone me and do freaky experiments with my clones
No thanks

>>15114298
i wish ayys would do freak experiments with me

New republican house chair of science on Artemis

>>15114258
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_People_Fell
>The setting is the type of benign Venus imagined before the first space probes penetrated the clouds of that planet. Colonization has become stymied by the native inhabitants (loudies), who are apparently sentient bubbles that float around the landscape, getting in the way of human progress. Attempts to communicate with them produce no response. Confining them is useless (they drift back) and killing them produces a deadly explosion that contaminates a thousand acres (4 km2). The non-Chinese authorities of the early Instrumentality government have no answer.
>The ruler of Goonhogo (the entity that replaced China under the early Instrumentality) decrees that 82 million Chinesians (men, women, and children) be dropped from space, parachuting down to the surface. Each one has a simple mission — herd the bubbles together. Many die in the process, both in landing and from the bubbles exploding. The rest corralled the loudies together into herds, where they eventually starve, wiping out the species. Meanwhile, more Chinese parachute down with rice seeds and begin planting. Eventually, by sheer weight of numbers, the Chinese conquer Venus.

>>15114304
Looks like dick waving competition funding is back on the menu.

>>15114310
Its always a dick waving competition.

>>15114160
Gommunism :D

>>15114272
Covid-19

>>15114259
>>15114269
Calm your dialator, republicans do the same thing when they are in power.

>>15114301
who wouldn't want a free probing and spaceship ride?

>>15114283
because they value my sleep time. thank you abl for lack of gimmicks, a good nights rest is for me

>>15114308
kek

>>15114301
>>15114318
They'll make your clones fuck each other, if that's the shit you're into I'm going to ask you to leave /sfg/

NASA has no intrinsic imperative to make space exploration faster or cheaper.

I am doompilled

>>15114328
I'm talking about myself not the clones you retard

>>15114330
NASA is fasta

>>15114318
Inshallah I hope convergent evolution leads to aliens that have hot humanoid females

Blimp bros... we won

>>15114304
based, I just hope the money is used effectively instead of funneled into pointless pork

>>15114128
>Rockets are ships/airplanes
Retard

>>15114333
> wants ayys zapping his prostate
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>15114344
And we will keep winning

>>15114344
Drone shots from blimp drones

>>15114348
this is only a thing from the imagination of degenerate earthers, advanced ayys are above this

>>15114341
Would you find picrel acceptable?

>>15114345
It will be spent on Alabama river rocks.

>>15114341

>>15114341
Sadly I think genetically engineered human female girls that merely look like sexy grey aliens with big booba are our most realistic hope

>>15114152

>>15114351
Why isn't this a thing yet

>>15114364
I hate them so much

Booster 9 rolled back to the production site and we all missed it

>>15114358
I could settle for wife robots instead.

>>15114370
I saw it but I was like meh

>jumbo jet 1004 rolled back to the hangar

like big deal

>>15114368
you hate that china made for $20 what jpl need $10million to do?

Don't care about the chink hate, I want China to get a Mars sample first and scare the US into getting their shit together.

>>15114378
congress and the american retard people are sleepwalking us into oblivion and it will be too late if they ever realize and they wont

>>15114380

>>15114382
>>15114380
Unpopular opinion but the sooner space becomes for “normal people”, the better. Average people don’t give a shit about space if only cream of the crop uberscientists and pilots go twice a year

>>15114160
They're soulless bug people. The truly creative chinks were wiped out centuries ago.

Serious Aerospace Company Do Not Bully.

>>15114380
>>15114382

>>15114354
Shelby is gone, anon. It's over.

>>15114380
>if they ever realize
>they don't know what they're doing to US.

robotfuckers are gonna be eating good next month

>>15114394
too bad they're s*viet

>>15114394
tesla coombot penus edition DEluxe vajina?

>>15114391
>It's over.
These words were typed by someone who never watched The Wire. The game is the game.

>>15114367
The answer is because quad copter drone are extremely cheap. Like for $100, you can get a decent drone that does ~40-50 mins of airtime, and all the latest whiz/bang that comes with most drones like stabalizers/4G/5G/Wifi/2.4G radio controls/etc etc

Its true that blimps might be great, but the cost is greater.

>>15114380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvNAid29vv8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhN5Ej3ycZ8

ASA stream delayed, hopefully they'll get it sorted for a spectacular failure.

>>15114399
but imagine the cute accent while she regurgitates state approved propaganda

hello friends, any idea what could cause the following and is there any possibility of it being a mental issue?

Headache strikes or brain zaps occurring with scalp muscle twitches and sometimes a flash of a lightdot in vision.
May also cause immideate
-lightheadedness
-feeling of arms being very light to move
-dizziness
-nausea
-changes in emotions
-soreness to pressure in the area of the headache strike
-uncomfortable bodily sensation at the scalp
-may occur tingling at the face and sometimes scalp, dryness and afterdesquamation, irritation and redness

May also cause independently occurring for days or weeks before occurring less again
-more locational headaches, burning headaches and aches in other areas of the body, sometimes almost continuous. After about an hour or so of burning headache there may be some sort of numbness at the area
-more often dilation of the pupil in the left eye
-more often irritation, watering, redness of the eyes
-feeling of having to move the eyes usually with scalp tension
-more often a sensation of pins and needles or numbness around the right corner of the mouth
-involuntary movement of the right corner of the mouth usually paired with and uncomfortable sensation at the head around the right ear
-more head tension, sometimes almost continuous
-more uncomfortable bodily sensations
-sometimes light nausea with the head tension
-more locational scalp twitching and scalp "nerve twitches"
-muscle twitches or spasms in other areas of the body
-during focus requiring tasks or otherwise tensing the eyes and scalp in a way may cause more muscle twitches and spasms in other areas of the body usually coupled with an uncomfortable sensation at the back of the head
-feeling of arms being very light to move occurring more often
Some symptoms may continue occurring indefinitely

1/2

>>15114406
>Vega failed
>VO failed
>ABL failed

SpaceX is king

>>15114409
Symptoms started over half a year before a CT scan that showed no abnormalities in the brains. A couple of months later EEG scan had apparently no abnormalities, the symptoms weren't active during the scan.

Some other major symptoms that started around the same time
-Episodes of pleasure, sexual/orgasmic
-Sudden aggression and "flashes" of aggression. Sometimes the aggression has occurred with changing of emotions back and forth between seconds sometimes together with scalp muscle twitches

Later there's been tinnitus in the right ear after another brain zap with a sudden scalp muscle tensing. The headaches have also become worse than before suddenly after a zap. The headache hurts less at the spot when pressing the area of the ache with a finger. Based on images online the areas of pain have larger peripheral nerves at them. Some of the symptoms may start and end very suddenly sometimes many times in a row. There's sometimes the muscle tension and/or uncomfortable bodily sensation coupled with the occurring symptoms that is very noticable when it ends abruptly. Sometimes the headaches and tension is coupled with the flashes of a lightdot and usually the headache, tension, uncomfortable feeling occur at different areas around the head and also there's many times a similar burning feeling in the upper abdomen at the same time.

2/2

>>15114394

>>15114401
that ugly cunt from washington state is now sfg public enemy number 1. get a picture of her and put her in crosshairs. I wanna see the mainstream media call us alt right terrorists NOW

>>15114409
>>15114410
The flight surgeon said you're no good to fly and not our problem.
Go check out the med thread.

>>15114411
>>15114409
Tumor

>>15114410
ABL hasn’t gone yet we’ll see in 13 minutes

>>15114394
Can't wait for all the blender animations that this will inspire.

>>15114406
No over-design, no gimmicks—just reliable, regular delays.

>>15114416
>Tumor
even when the CT scan was clear?

>>15114410
ABL succeeded masterfully. You'll be eating your cock after they nail orbit their first try. You'll be getting cock hammered down your throat. You are a cock lover

>>15114422
if ABL reaches orbit

"if"

>>15114406
>100 watching
So cute.

been a while since I posted some Webb candy

>>15114418
You're not funny, never were funny. You're so fucked and you don't even know it till I told you. Pig fuck

WHEN

>>15114432
20 years

>>15114432
That particular configuration? Never. Bimodal NTP with a plasma magnet sail for outer planet direct ascent orbiters? 2040.

>GIRL VOICE ON STREAM
sounds fuckable but she could be fat

>>15114438
It's hard to tell which with autistic accents

>>15114429
So glad it worked

>>15114438
Sometimes you just want a girl you can use as a beanbag chair

>>15114438
That's a man

>>15114435
Ago

https://beta.nsf.gov/news/statement-nsf-astronomy-coordination-agreement

NSF/SpaceX partnership on Starlink, They want other satellites constellations to follow the SpaceX lead.

>>15114438
>>15114406
I wonder how many times this awful stream will die?

>>15114457
n+1

>>15114392
That phrase "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" is catnip for midwits. High IQ schizos like me never fall for it.

its always two more weeks until the next big thing that comes along which takes two more decades

>>15114455
Knew this would happen, pretty soon astronomers are gonna be praising SpaceX and shaming other companies especially countries like China/Russia for how little shits they give about their precious light pollution

>>15114460
I'm also trans btw

>>15114409
>>15114411
Did you get a second/third opinion on the scan? Did you get your blood checked? Are you vaxxmaxxed and clotted? Do you get enough sleep? Do you sleep too much? Too much stress? Do you eat proper food or goyslop? Are you fat? Do you exercise? Some sort of autoimmune fuckery or bad genetic dice roll? Could be anything. Ask in the med thread, we're rocket surgeons here, we don't deal with meatbags.

https://youtu.be/nRBhbAYu9L8

>>15114464
My enemies falseflagging to discredit my vital messages? Water off a ducks back to me now. But you still must pay for it...

This is the worst stream I've ever watched

>that laugh

>No fucking word on liftoff or anything
Pls don’t tell me it scrubbed again…lol

>>15114474
I think it's cute

>Updated T0 is 14:27 AKST (23:27 UTC). Our next update will be after the conclusion of the mission.
I hope their mission isn't starting WW3 by shooting a missile at Moscow.

>OBS has cras- [stream ends]
KEEEEEK

>>15113586
>I followed (and still do) a very well known spaceflight blog in spain that was posting about him in 2008, as far back as I can remember.
Wait, is that blog called Nauka by any chance?

>>15114344
Isn't that one of those glowdrones?

>>15114344

i hate this stream

>>15113810
There is an inverse relationship between thrust and specific-impulse/exhaust-velocity (if one is high the other is low).
Photon rocket levels ISP engines (exhaust velocity= speed of light) would have unpractical low thrust and acceleration rate. At real possible power density levels.

>>15114496
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1611779823348912129

Source

>PR-3 Heavy is just three PR-3 cores stuck together and called Heavy
It surely can't be that easy in rocketry, can it?

>>15114501
I can't believe elon would say something so based like this

>>15114502
>that amount of cope in one slide

>>15114502
>contlol-see
>contlol-vee

I DON'T WANT THE FUTURE TO BE FILLED BY FALCON 9 AND STARSHIP COPIES AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS OF EXPANDABLE ROCKETS

>>15114510
>expandable
tags: r34, rocketgirls, krystal, weight gain

>>15114510
Reusable rockets, expendable crews.

https://twitter.com/ablspacesystems/status/1612960044257247236

RS-1

Failure

ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST

https://twitter.com/Lori_Garver/status/1612957517109149697

I thought Lori was supposed to be based?

>>15114510
>expandable rockets

https://mobile.twitter.com/ablspacesystems/status/1612960044257247236
>After liftoff, RS1 experienced an anomaly and shut down prematurely. The team is working through our anomaly response procedures in coordination with PSCA and the FAA.
>This is not the outcome we were hoping for today, but one that we prepared for. We'll revert with additional information when available. Thanks to all for the support.
No over-design, no gimmicks—just reliable, regular small sat launcher failure.

>>15114526
>I thought Lori was supposed to be based?
who told you that

Huh, so turns out reaching orbit was a gimmick too.

>>15114526
> A woman on the moon is not only the culmination of decades of work and societal progress, but it is also a beginning and not an ending.

>That’s what the mission to put a woman on the moon is about. Not the moment that she steps onto the lunar surface, but America’s gradual process of understanding why it was important to put her there. It took so long, that one small step, that leap for humankind.

why? why is it important?

>>15114522
Oof. Kodiak is a much more forgiving spaceport than KSC. Maybe we'll see them again in a few months.

>>15114532
Need women to bear children if a colony is going to thrive.

R I P

>>15114530
nobody, that is just the impression I had

>>15114534
>one died
>the rest was euthanized
Good riddance

>>15114526
Artemis 3 is a literal footnote, even the first Chink landing will be more memorable (and it won't be), literally everybody will forget about it

>>15114532
women are cool and based. nobody is seriously arguing there shouldn't be any on artemis missions. virtue signaling about it like lori is cringe.

>>15114535
good point

>>15114526
It took so long because Apollo was cancelled. Sally Ride went to space in 1978, not long after the Apollo program. Had it kept going, this would have already been done but without all this bullshit identity commotion.

>>15114534
I miss her bros...

>>15114536
rolling for pad fallback

>>15114539
Media people will never stop reminding you about it. Be prepared for the most annoying Lunar Landing coverage ever.

>>15114536
>retards on twitter asking for source

>>15114536

>>15114534
Poor thing

>>15114536
looks like it was a clandestine nuke test!

>>15114536
No gimmicks, no excuses, no refunds!

>>15114536
just your regular explosion, nothing to see

Bantz

>>15114556
Come on Eric, OPS is a WAY better metric

>Views or not were doing it
what the fuck was this stream, wasn't ABL the results over rhetoric stage two?

>>15114569
based strokeposter

Has any private company been successful with their first orbital attempt? I was really hopeful about abl. I guess the next one to try will be Relativity

>>15114573
I-Space, Their only succesful launch was their first Hyperbola-1 launch
Galactic Energy, All their Ceres-1 launches were succesful.
Pegasus was also succesful on its first try

>>15114460
>That phrase "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
yes unironically

>>15114573
Orbital Sciences’ first launch of Pegasus in 1990 was succesful

>Stoorlink at 5AM

>>15114500
Yeah but nuclear fuel in a reactor last like 5 years? So after some 5 years it would've reached it's maximum speed and 5 years isn't a lot if the goal is to send something as far away as possible

>>15114578
Ummmm sweaty aren't you forgetting someone?? New Shepard's first flight was a stunning success. Despite the fact that the booster obliterated upon landing attempt, the BEAUTIFUL capsule RSS Jules Verne was successfully placed into its intended target orb- errr, apogee of 93.5 km

>>15114578
I'm not sure how much "first launch" credit Hyperbola-1 and Ceres-1 should get, since they're both DF-25/26 ICBMs with some extra stages on top.

Is 100 km just an arbitrary-but-convenient definition? Where does space begin on Mars? Venus? Venus is slightly smaller than Earth so is it under 100 km or should it still be 100km for the sake of convenience

Is anyone else worried of a Starship launch failure?

>>15114601
They're testing it so much I doubt it will fail. Maybe they could fail the reentry.

>>15114599
It has a distant connection to the ability for winged vehicles to generate lift, with things above a certain altitude needing to travel faster than orbital velocity to generate any. I don't think it's a great definition because it depends on vehicle, atmospheric temperature, and probably fifteen billion other things besides

>>15114599
It's where wings stop being able to hold up an airplane. You need a rocket to stay up there.

>>15114599
100 km is arbitrary metric nonsense.

>>15114601
If you mean failure that damages the launch pad then unironically no.
It's pretty likely it'll either scrub or make it far enough with little room for outcomes in the middle.

>>15114573
Stoke Aerospace

>>15114611
SpaceX seems to be pretty good with Raptor testing. None of the SN-series hops had a major engine failure on ascent (SN15 lost an engine a few seconds before shutoff but look how that went)

>>15114601
Every starship has succeeded in launch. Only failures had been through mid fight (thick fog) or landing.

>>15114606
New Sheppard is a spaceplane

>>15114620
because it doesn't work?

Free Mars

>>15114599
It's the internationally commonly agreed on definition according to the FAI, the USAF uses 50 miles (80 km), NASA uses both.

The "height" of the atmosphere depends on each planet's atmosphere and is not proportional to their size or mass.
Mars' definition of space would be broadly the same as earth, while venus' would probably be a bit higher (120-150 km)

>>15114556
at least one was an away game

>>15114597
Eh, they're still produced and QA'd and launched by them. It counts

>>15114626
I'll take three!

>>15114635
Is it like how Japan produced licensed copies of Thor and Delta rockets for their first launchers?

>>15114627
>the USAF uses 50 miles (80 km)
Why exactly does the USAF go against the grain anyways?

>>15114437
>plasma magnet sail
This is going to be a total bust, same as M2P2
You can't get hyperfast velocity just by spinning an electrified wheel in space. Space isn't that easy. Space is hard.

>>15114640
It's just cope so that the handful of X-15 pilots can be called astronauts

>>15114646
didn't x-15 actually go up to 106km though

>>15114613
I'm stoked for stoke!

>>15114640
https://astronomy.com/news/2021/03/the-krmn-line-where-does-space-begin

Because its the actual criteria which meets the requirement of Karmen line (orbital forces exceeding aerodynamic ones), which was calculated by Andrew Gallagher Haley.

The actual 100 km is just a proposed guesstimate, the number stuck because its pretty, like 100 meters, 100 km, etc. The actual rule gives the exact number to ~52mile. So from physics standpoint, 50mile is the correct/accurate boundary as defined by the Karman line criteria.

>>15114650
https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/PT.3.4599

50 mile/80 km is the right metric.

>>15114650
what's an orbital force?

>>15114578
Damn. New space can't compete with old space and the chinks

>>15114650
>Karman line is more of a "folk theorem"
>Jonathan McDowell
https://twitter.com/planet4589

>>15114578
Still waiting for a liquid rocket company to succeed first try

>>15114665
Cheese it, it's the fucking rozzers

> Mesocucks getting uppity
We've been through this many times before you faggots

Today, after a successful launch and liftoff, ABL's launch vehicle experienced and anomaly in flight. While we regret that we were unable to accomplish all mission objectives, our team captured a tremendous amount of data from the flight. We will work closely with the FAA to complete a mishap investigation. Behind me is Flight 2 hardware, which will be updated based on what we learned from the flight so we can begin servicing our backlog of over 50 contracted launches. I think our team here at ABL, our partners at the Pacific Spaceport Complex, and I also want to thank our government customers and partners, the Department of Defense, the United States Space Force, the Defense Innovation Unit, FAA, FCC, the Coast Guard, and the community of Kodiak, Alaska. We look forward to seeing you at our next launch.

>>15114677
kek

>>15114677
What the fuck is ABL’s business model? RocketLab and Virgin Orbit have publicly struggled with a lack of customers, what makes ABL think they’ll make it?

>>15114650
>>15114665
>>15114674
>space law
>orbital police
they can't stop me

>>15114641
You only get cheap hyperfast for relatively small craft. You'd need a multi megawatt nuclear reactor and possibly superconducting coils to get useful acceleration for a manned spacecraft.

>>15114692
Competitor to Rocket Lab

>>15114641
>Space isn't that easy. Space is hard.

>>15114708
>multi megawatt nuclear reactor
>possibly superconducting coils
Fuck that, sounds way too much trouble. I'll stick with terawatt-scale beamed propulsion lasers, thank you very much.

I know there's at least 1 guy ITT that's interested in the cup, the roster poll is here >>15114711
Yes, von Braun and Musk are still players

Why are there so many weird SpaceX scams on YouTube?

>>15114732
it's rigged

Did you know that Vega’s first stage and 2 out of the 3 segments of the Ariane 5’s Boosters are actually assembled and casted at Kourou?

>>15114784
The P80 first stage of the original Vega is just a single segment of the Ariane 5 boosters. Vega-C’s P120 first stage is just one of the boosters off Ariane 6. Interesting strategy

>>15114526
she is based but also cringe

>>15114536
We didnt even get to watch her die. I think she tipped over immediately. Anthony colangelo must be crying and pissing himelf, how stupid was he

>>15114790
If they weren't using first stage spare parts some other European country would demand the rights to build the entire thing and it would slow the process down even more. It's the first niggling "build where you fly" ethos appearance at EESAcalledjarjarbinks.

>>15114692
abl provides reliable launches with no gimmicks. no streams either. so far no small launcher has acheived the no gimmick part or reliable part, it's a wide open niche

>>15114813
What’s SpaceX’s gimmick?

>>15114813
>abl provides reliable launches with no gimmicks
Astra/10

>>15114816
musk antics

>>15114816
Hubris, they think they can spit in God's face with demomic babylonian towers. ABL is humble instead

>>15114816
Orbit.

>>15114816
>What’s SpaceX’s gimmick?
Reliably reaching orbit.

Why do smallsat launchers barely fly? Electron isn’t even at 1 flight per month yet, and LauncherOne flies like twice a year

>>15114840
Space is hard.

>>15114840
SpaceX Transporter missions plus "last mile" spacetugs ate their business model.

>>15114840
I see SpaceX made the right choice in ditching the Falcon 1 and going into the 9 right away.

>>15114840
SpaceX's first flight of the year was a Falcon 9 launch that deployed 140 smallsat payloads.

>>15114848
>>15114857
Are “dedicated launches” a meme? Why does RocketLab shill them so hard?

>>15114863
>Are “dedicated launches” a meme?
Yes.
>Why does RocketLab shill them so hard?
They get fucking mogged on $/kg and don't launch as frequently as SpaceX so it's all they've got.

[math]EAGER[/math] [math]BEAVER[/math] [math]2023[/math] [math]CHALLENGE[/math]
---------------------------------------------------------------
[STARSHIP]
1) Num successful orbital launches ('success' = Starship achieves whatever orbit trajectory SX intended)
2) Num SuperHeavy landings @ the launch site ('success' = SH could be theoretically reused with minimal maintenance, in theory)
3) Num successful orbital landings of SS (soft landing @ designated landing site)
4) # of full-stack launches from pad 39-A in FL
---------------------------------------------------------------
[OVERALL LAUNCH FLIGHT COUNTS]
5) FH
6) Vulcan
7) SLS
8) Ariane 6
9) Terran 1
10) RS1
11) Electron
---------------------------------------------------------------
12) Electron reused booster flight count
---------------------------------------------------------------
13) Virgin Galactic crewed flight count
14) BO New Shepard crewed flight count
---------------------------------------------------------------
15) Rocket Lab does a full test of Archimedes at Stennis (YES/NO)
16) New Glenn flight hardware on pad @ LC-36 FL [note: this does NOT have to be a full stack! As long as it's an actual booster with engines it counts. NO PATHFINDERS] (YES/NO)
---------------------------------------------------------------
17) Num successful Moon landings (in the race so far:
• ispace - Hakuta R
• intuitive machines - NovaC 1
• intuitive machines - NovaC 2
• astrobotic - Peregrine
• ISRO- Vicram redo mission (prev crashed)
• JAXA - SLIM
• POCKOCMOC - Luna 27

>>15114878
1) 0
2) 0
3) 0
4) 0
5) 2
6) 1
7) 0
8) 0
9) 0
10) 0
11) 11
12) 0
13) 1
14) 5
15) NO
16) NO
17) 4

>>15114410
>>15114410
>>15114410
>>15114410
>>15114410

>>15114897
Post that in the video comments and you might get a nominal prize.

>Tonight’s Starlink launch uses a new booster
Neat

>>15114910
I'll get around to it. I hope it's a can of Dr. K's Engine Elixir

>>15114913
What is the current oldest booster still in use? Not necessarily the one with the most fights, but the one that has existed for the longest.

Reminder that Apollo 17 drove 35 kilometers in 2 days while the Curiosity rover has driven only 30 kilometers in 11 years.

>>15114897
>1) 0
>2) 0
>3) 0
>4) 0
>14) 5
hi jeff

>>15114920
That's what happens when you have to solarcuck on Mars during sandstorm season instead of using more dense power delivery systems.

>>15114917
It's a tie between B1052 and B1053. They were the Falcon Heavy boosters for the Arabsat-6A launch on April 11th, 2019.

>>15114922
Oh shit thank you I just realized it's asking for CREWED new shep flights, not just total flights. Ummm in that case... 2? 1 feels too low but 0 still feels possible because NTSB investigation

>>15114923
There was no better post to show how much of newfag you really are.

>>15114923
Curiosity is powered by an RTG.

>>15114920
Reminder that there was no communication delay between the rover and the pilot in the Apollo missions.

>>15114920
This is the shit people don't realize when they say "why do we need astronauts? just get robots to do it lmao".
To be fair part of it's just NASA. Lunokhod 2 did nearly 40km in like 4 months and could've done more if they didn't accidentally dump a bunch of regolith onto the radiators

>>15114935
Yes.

>>15114536
>the only video of an operational RS1 is just the mushroom cloud left by its destruction
KEK

>>15114917
See >>15114926, but the most flown boosters are B1058 (Bob’n’Doug) and B1060 (GPS III Matthew Henson). Both of these have 15 flights

What’s neat is B1052 and B1053 are going to be reunited in March with the Viasat-3 Falcon Heavy launch. B1052 has flown five flights as a single core booster since it’s 2019 STP-2 Falcon Heavy flight

>>15114432

>Standing down from today's launch of Starlink to take a closer look at data from second stage; teams are setting up for next launch opportunity, which is tomorrow, January 11 at 7:48 p.m. PT

>>15114947
>Artemis I style uncrewed mission

are you fucking kidding me, Aerojet Rocketdyne would love that because its an extra 4 engines in the drink, pass

>>15114950
fug :DDD

>>15114950
>We almost had a Falcon 9 failure tonight

>>15114954
>>15114950
I wonder if the past two failures we witnessed made them feel extra cautious this time around

>>15114955
Tbh SpaceX is generally very cautious. No failed missions since Amos 6 in 2016 and all.