/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15098299
It's just more gatekeeping from people who don't truly understand intelligence.

>>15098299
He solved one important problem, and decided he knows everything about mathematics. Maybe he does, idk.

>>15098299
Understanding is forming a network of connections that reflect the relationships between all the different aspects of all the different concepts you understand so that nontrivial statements about such relationships become intuitively apparent.

>>15098356
so an algorithm?

>>15098380
Consciousness isn't computational, so no.
Midwit thread.

>>15098299
just for context, thurstons work was mainly about 3 dimensional manifolds and how they can be shaped. it relies a lot more on visual thinking and intuition than, say, classical group theory

some people have gone so far as to classify mathematicians into categories based on whether they are more visual or more symbolically minded. idk for sure what he meant, but you could take this as thurston pledging allegiance to Aryan mathematics

>>15098494
Yeah, good post. It's not so easy. Many mathematicians devote their lives to narrow topics that are heavily computational in nature, and its still math.
For his quote he selected a few things that are elements of the set of mathematics, but not all of it. So yes, you could have all of them or none of them and its still math....
My English isn't good enough for this.

>>15098380
I wasn't talking to you, animal. You aren't sentient.

>>15098299
just the etymological definition of the word

>>15098696
why a monospace font for wikipedia? just curious.

>>15098780
chrome had monospace defaults for me
what does https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page come up for you?

>>15098807
Arial.

>>15098299
>What did this Fields medalist mean by this?
Understanding.
It is formed by 3 parts:
under-stand-ing,
where.
under = low
stand = being
ing = present time.

if we eliminate the -ing, we have:
under-stand.
Now, everything that is under can be over, so under and over are related, then it's not necesary in the word understanding.
Hence, we have now:
Stand.
But what is stand? i dont know. However, it is the core of the word understand, so without it the word would not have a meaning. If we search the etimology, we got this:

Old English standan (verb), stand (noun), of Germanic origin, from an Indo-European root shared by Latin "stare" and Greek "histanai".
With this, stand is stare in latin. So,
What is stare?
I dont know, but now i know one thing, and is that i need a girlfriend.
:c

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>>15098299

Just another CS nerd being insecure instead of networking and getting internships.

>>15099140
I am a drunk and I drink tons of vodka every day and that is not intuitive to me. its the difference between 60 and 66 percent put to someone in an unusual way, it's not some huge difference

that guy can get fucked

>>15098299
a path to understanding or simulacrum might be proving theorems in multiple and independent ways and generating counter-examples

>>15098356
>Understanding is forming a network of connections that reflect the relationships between all the different aspects of all the different concepts you understand
>understanding is... understanding

>>15099130
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/understand
comes from the german unterstehen (“to be subordinate”). Synchronically analyzable as unter- + stehen. to stand under, to be subordinate to. (Like saluting an authority figure) I stand under the King's English. I understand the King's English

If you want a girlfriend though, unless you just want a friend that happens to be a girl, I'd use the modern english and care not for grammar and syntax but purely phoneticism

OP, if that is your understanding, then which algorithm did you memorize?

>>15099373
All scientific explanations are fundamentally tautological.

>>15099516
source?

Understanding is very important in math. For example understanding that math is not supposed to be an exclusively white cis-male endeavor. A good mathematician knows the value of diversity.

>>15099419
Who knows?

>>15099857
How do you feel about the federal reserve system, one that forces individuals who have no use for temporality or magnitude in their own tribal languages to use debt based fiat currency?

He means maths isn't about mindlessly following recipes which is the experience of 99% of people who think they're doing maths

>>15098494
based Thurston preemtively blowing category linguists the fuck out