/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15089892
PBS pays Bill's bills, so it's not surprising some capitulation comes in.

>>15089892

>>15089892
When they redefined science to be naturalism and forced this philosophy/religion on all of academia and the scientific community.

>>15089892
>When did you start to hate contemporary scientists, /sci/?
What does Bill Naye have to do with this?

When I entered university 20 years ago and realized they allow women in the physics department.

>>15089925
>it's the anti-materialist/physicalist/naturalist schizo again
keep seething that ghosts are not real and you can't turn water into wine and whatever
Idealism doesn't make computers work or put food on the table

>>15089940
If you got any pussy, you wouldn't notice or care that they're women.

>>15090126
It's funny just how mentally ill you are. You're literally lashing out at random people in every thread thinking they're all the same poster.

>>15090138
I think he is literally autistic. There a poster on this poster whose retardation is hardly fathomable that just goes in every thread screeching and saying stupid shit in a very confrontational manner then screeching "schizo" at them when they point out how moronic he is. He has never not been here, no matter what the hour of day, in the 6 years I have been posting on this board,

>>15090190
*poster on this board
also he isnt white

>>15090190
>He has never not been here, no matter what the hour of day, in the 6 years I have been posting on this board,
I hate to tell you, but I think you're suffering from the exact same symptoms he's suffering from...

>>15090194
I didnt say it was him I described someone on this board that is likely him dimwit

>>15090193
>There is a poster on this board whose retardation is hardly fathomable
reading comprehension is important on forums

>>15090199
Has it ever occurred to you that if you keep seeing "the same person" posting at any given hour, on any given day, year after year, maybe it's different people and you're just mentally unstable just like this tard (>>15090126)?

>>15090207
know it is him you fucking moron because I talk to him. I am not just guessing you stupid nigger. I know his posting style and call his stupid ass out when posts stupid shit dumb fuck.

>>15090222
>know it is him you fucking moron because I talk to him
And he knows everyone who shits on him is the same person because he talks to him, too. :^)

>>15089892
>When did you start to hate contemporary scientists, /sci/?
Who even knows any "contemporary scientists"? I guess Steven Hawking was popular, but I don't think he's "contemporary" anymore. We don't have a single notable living scientific figure.

>>15089908
>hormones significantly reduces athletic ability of trannies
This dimwit. Such a statement is worth literally nothing.
Drinking just a spoon full of cyanide is significantly less lethal than drinking a liter of cyanide.

when the funny facebook memes told me science is actually wrong

>>15089892
Once I grew out of New Atheism religion

>/mu/ hates music
>/v/ hates video games
>/tv/ hates television & film
>/sci/ hates science & math
>etc.
Why does that happen, scientifically speaking?

>>15089892
bill Nye is apparently a huge asshole in person. doesn't surprise me one bit.

>>15090638
probably because 4chan is the only site where they can post their pseudoscience claims. post that anywhere else and you get your post removed, so there's a concentration of retards in one place.

>>15089892
The moment the use of drugs in class 2 heart failure was approved by the FDA, I hated.

>bill noy the s-o-yence goy

>>15089892
When I realized that if they really knew enough about the body, there'd be an actual baldness cure already.

>>15091543
Just get a hair transplant or get on fin

>>15090645
He's an actor who couldn't hack it as an engineer so he quit to do a local comedy show and he lucked out that one of his characters, a "science guy", was seen by the local PBS station at a time they were looking for new science programming aimed at young kids. He's been riding that character ever since but none of that changes that he never was a scientist and couldn't hack it as an engineer very long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYyLSzPNgg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGlDVmBLibg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK8w_xkMGIg

When I saw Bill Nye doing an interview about 10 years ago talking about how trans women were real women and gender was a spectrum. I burned all my science books and started reading scripture only.

Physics 100 day 1 - Diversity and inclusion test
Day 2 - "Let's talk about women in science"
Day 3 - "Let's talk about BIPOC in science"
Day 4 - "Impact of colonialism on science"

I've come to the conclusion that the DUDE SCIENCE LMAO people are morally and intellectually better than contrarians, because at least the former group has the intellectual humility to accept that they should rely on other, more knowledgeable people if they aren't willing to do serious research.

>>15091616
>t. contrarian

>>15091619
Nah, it's just that you're going through a phase and you won't see it for what it is until you're out of it.

>>15091626
Dude I just turned 40. I have no phases left in me.

>>15090126
You can't even respond to what someone says without bad faith and personal attacks because you don't have the truth on your side.

>>15089892
I just found out that Bill Nye is jewish. Does that affect his "science"?

>>15089892
When my friend with a Creative Writing degree texted me asking if I wanted to join him at a "March for Science" political rally in NYC. It's the most "Trust The Experts" bs I'd ever heard of.

>>15089892

When I noticed their unexamined, materialist dogma.

Interesting that he attended the same high school that Chelsea Clinton and the Obama girls did. What are the odds?

>>15089892
When I realized they were all trying to be Oppenheimer instead of Einstein or Feynman

>>15091635
>Dude I just turned 40. I have no phases left in me.
kek. lmao even. You got like 3 phases to your 40s alone bro. You haven't even started yet

>>15090193
t. maitim ang budhi

lmao it was new years eve so someone started a bill NYE thread
*laughs*
*snorts*
*glasses fall off and break*
*repairs them with tape and paperclips and puts them back on*

>>15092324

>>15090126

Metaphysics is not science, retard. A metaphysics isn't supposed to model things.

>>15090651
>i hate the people on 4chan, they're all retards, blah blah blah
so why are you here if you hate everyone on 4chan so much? if you're so much smarter than the rest of us, why aren't you able to figure out a website to look as which you'd find less upsetting?

bump

>>15089908
I'm basically a professional trans rights advocate and >>15090493 completely summed it up. There's nothing I hate more than incredibly weak, shitty arguments for positions I side with. I could write an essay breaking down all of the dumb things about this article. Basically the perfect example of what fuels the anti-science movement and why education and verbal intelligence don't preclude awful reasoning.

>>15089908
I'm basically a professional trans rights advocate and >>15090493 completely summed it up. There's nothing I hate more than incredibly weak, shitty arguments for positions I side with. I could write an essay breaking down all of the dumb things about this article. Pretty much the perfect example of what fuels the anti-science movement and ideal fodder for a case study on why education and verbal intelligence don't preclude awful reasoning.

>>15089892
When they became contemporary
Theyre all hacks and liars, paid shills for big gov/pharma/whatever have you
They wont be remembered as revolutionary paragons of intelligence and discovery, but as what they truly are.
Ye olde scientist, be it Einstein or Newton or any lesser known yet still influential, may well have been just as scandalous as modern man, but history doesnt remember them as such.
He who combines Special Relativity and Gravity or whatever the general theory goal is will be remembered much as Curie and Darwin are, and will be absolved of all mockery and accusations.

When it failed to be science

>>15092324

>>15089892
When this happened

>>15095721
So what’s is a good argument for having trans wonen in women's sport? Geniunely curious desu.

>>15089892
Around 8pm last night

>>15096850
One that convinces the morons he targets.

>>15098294
I agree with him. It would be insulting to men to call him one.

>>15089892
>When did you start to hate contemporary scientists, /sci/?
2020 for obvious reasons.

>>15089892
when I realized they were all cucks and deny anything that doesn't go along with their cuckery and also bill nye hate will not be tolerated

>>15089908
>let data and science - not politicians - guide laws
Minorities and liberals would really dislike living in that world.

>>15089908
its partly in the langauge, he uses term anti-tran campaigner, while you ned to flip that around and escape the narritve, its not "anti", anything.

or you as trans are a anti hetro campaigner

>>15089892
the carbon tax + economic growth as a solution to climate change was probably the quencher for me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Georgescu-Roegen
The entire system is based on exponentially increasing population and consumption rate of non-renewable resources because corporations and the people working for them literally depend on that exponential growth for their profits. No growth = no profits = no quality of life.

You cannot be a serious scientist with the good of humanity foremost in your priorities if you're not even willing to talk about this dark elephant in the room, and hardly any of them do...

>>15099068
the people who are posing as scientist will always go along with the government narrative because the government is who signs their paychecks.
scientists aren't capable of earning a living for themselves outside of picking up a gibes check from the government, if they contracted the government narrative then they would be putting their only means of survival at risk because outside of their sheltered, government subsidized careers, they have no capability to earn a living for themselves.

>>15098296
I lol'd

I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!!!

>>15090638
Sturgeon's Law, Pareto distribution. Anyone who becomes well informed in a field will learn that the vast majority of its content is inferior, and come to resent it.

4chan also has much more freedom of speech which allows for more negative viewpoints than strictly moderated hugboxes. Contrarianism is also incentivized because (You)'s are the only real form of feedback.

>>15096850
To remind real women that they are biologically inferior.

>>15089892
He's basically a crazy baptist preacher, only instead of 'Christianity' he's peddling 'Science'

>>15101877
real women aren't interested in participating in competitive athletics to begin with. "female" athletes are all feminist dykes who wish they were born male. picrel mfw a faggot in a dress smashes a dyke to death during a field hockey game

>>15089934
When the average retard on this board talks about 'scientists', they just mean things they read on Twitter, or saw on cable TV.

>>15089908

>>15101944
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

>>15091613
actually? where?

>>15089892
>Bill Nye
>Scientist
What did OP mean by this?

>>15090638
Its been a long standing trend on 4chan that a given board can become the worst on site for its actual topic over time. It's for a variety of reasons: either people with an entry level understanding of the topic wanting to be spoonfed, making posts and threads that are loosely tangential, and those who just want to be a contrarian and complain. /sci/ specifically is filled with people who want to be spoonfed things that they should have learned in highschool, ask about things that belong on other boards ( just look at how frequently /r9k/ or /wsr/ threads pop up in the catalog), or whinge about "science" when they're not even talking about scientists or any particular piece of research, but rather what bureaucrats and the the news or what popular media are saying. Ironically the people who whine the loudest about the IFLS crowd have as little scientific understanding as they do. Why do you think every time there's a global warming thread people post screen caps of a public figure being quoted in a newspaper and not a scientific article? No one on old /sci/ held the likes of Neil Tyrone Chicken or the Vlog Brothers in high regard, primarily because the were always the sort of pop garbage the board hated science its inception. But the newfag contrarians on here will pretend otherwise and act like they are authoritative and thus people on the board with a STEM background or those with a laymen's interest have to somehow have to answer for them.

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>>15090135
not him, but getting pussy is the reason i hate women.

women regularly behave in unbearably cringe ways that are only tolerated because they are women

>>15104759
I don't disagree that there is a significant subpopulation of women like that. Though odds are you also behave in unbearably cringe ways which inhibits your supply of quality pussy.

More generally, when poised with social and environmental problems the most practical choice is usually to improve yourself. Coordinating mass action to reform society is orders of magnitude more difficult and rarely successful.

>>15104759

>>15089892
the coof scamdemic poisoned the discourse

should I dump my folder?

>>15089892
>contemporary scientists
Blame American humanities for the current state of the world.

>>15108912
>>15108199
plz do
also continue reposting them anywhere/everywhere else

>>>/pol/411476633

>>15089892
I started disliking them when I heard they experimented on animals. I started really disliking them when I saw how much they enabled lying politicians during the pandemic. There are some brave and honest ones though, but the media and establishment scientific entities seem to hate them.

>>15089892
>When did you start to hate contemporary scientists, /sci/?
when /pol/ told me to

>>15110618
Such an ankle biting cowardly response.

>>15110629
I just looked up from my computer screen to tell my puppy off for biting my other dogs ankles. When I return to the screen your post was the first thing I read. I've never heard ankle-biting as a phrase before.
Spoopy shit lads, I'm convinced, off to /x/ I go

>>15110629
its funny seeing newfags screech and whine about /pol/, knowing that /pol/ is only a sanitized children's version of what 4chan was once capable of

I think I'm done with Bill Nye. His new show sucks.
I am about halfway through Bill Nye Saves the World, and I am completely disappointed. I've been a huge fan of Bill Bye since I was ten. Bill Nye the Science Guy was entertaining and educational. Bill Nye Saves the World is neither. In this show he simply brings up an issue, tells you which side you should be on, and then makes fun of people on the other side. To make things worse he does this in the most boring way possible in front of crowd that honestly seems retarded. He doesn't properly explain anything, and he misrepresents every opposing view.
I just finished watching the fad diet episode. He presents Paleo as "only eating meat" which is not even close to what Paleo is. Paleo is about eating nutrient rich food, and avoiding processed food, grains and sugar. It is protein heavy, but is definitely not all protein. He laughs that cavemen died young, but forgets to mention that they had very low markers of cardiovascular disease.
In the first episode he shuts down nuclear power simply because "nobody wants it." Really? That's his go to argument? There was no discussion about handling nuclear waste, or the nuclear disaster in Japan. A panelist states that the main problem with nuclear energy is the long time it takes to build a nuclear plant (because of all the red tape). So we have a major issue (climate change caused by burning hydrocarbons), and a potential solution (nuclear energy), but we are going to dismiss it because people don't want it and because of the policies in place by our government. Meanwhile, any problems with clean energy are simply challenges that need to be addressed, and we need to change policy to help support clean energy and we need to change public opinion on it.

In the alternative medicine episode he dismisses a vinegar based alternative medicine because it doesn't reduce the acidity level of a solution. He dismiss the fact that vinegar has been used to treat upset stomach for a long time. How does vinegar treat an upset stomach? Does it actually work, or is it a placebo affect? Does it work in some cases, and not in others? If it does anything, does it just treat a symptom, or does it fix the root cause? I don't know the answer to any of these questions because he just dismissed it as wrong and only showed me that it doesn't change the pH level of an acidic solution. Also, there are many foods that are believed to help prevent diseases like fish (for heart health), high fiber breads (for colon cancer), and citrus fruits (for scurvy). A healthy diet and exercise will help prevent cardiovascular disease, and will help reduce your blood pressure among other benefits. So obviously there is some reasoning behind some alternative medicine and practices and to dismiss it all as a whole is stupid.
I just don't see the point of this show. It's just a big circle jerk. It's not going to convince anyone that they're wrong, and it's definitely not going to entertain anyone. It's basically just a very poor copy of Penn and Teller's BS! show, just with all intelligent thought removed.

>>15089892
it's all about government, government is faggot and uses pseudo scientist

>>15112260

test

>>15113231
icle

>>15113231
>>15114828
haha balls

>>15090126

>>15089892
When I realized they were giving state money to useless stuff like the higgs boson research or LIGO which are experiments designed to confirm a couple assholes' universe headcanon and no actual technology for space travel or sustainability is being developped with that. Also when I realized science is being understood through bait news articles and no one actually likes to take a look at experimental methodology or epistemology so those 2 get ignored by normies and are starting to get ignored by scientists too as normies get increasingly more into stem.

>>15089892
>scientists
>bill nye

>>15089892
Retard really thinks "biology" is science.

>>15089892
he's not a scientist, he's an engineer. he just played one on tv, dummy

when I realized that space is gay

>>15116056

pandemic desu

>>>/pol/.411483703

>>15089925
This. They are terrified of studying the nonmaterial seriously. The most clear example of this is NDEs, despite every study on NDEs indicating that materialism can not account for it.

Also, here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:

https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o

It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."

Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison.

Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE:

>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."

Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs. And they are not gullible idiots who do not understand the hallucinations/dreams/DMT/etc counterarguments.

>>15103985
ouch