/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15086088
It already has.

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7047
What the fuck is RT? I found no time zone with this name.

>>15086106

>>15086112
Huh, I guess it was supposed to be BRT but they fucked up.

>>15086106
>>15086122
What

>>15086123
I'm brazilian

>>15086130
>tfw you're conversing with a monkey on the internet

>>15086085
It's not the most modern-looking rocket, but but pumpkin spice does have its aesthetics.

>>15086085
Imagine the smell

>>15086088
nope cope

Why do people onions out so hard about storables yeah their toxic but you can just store them carefully they aren't that toxic

>>15086085
>>15086153
SOVL

>>15086258
>just store them carefully
Humans are unfortunately stupid and imperfect beings so "just being careful" only works 99% of the time.

>>15086258
>their

>>15086130
I’m sorry for your loss

>>15086358
I watch F9 launches to cope with my condition

>>15086258
aren't the fumes toxic as well

Mars colonization and terraforming when?

>>15086417
never

>>15086088
> will
they have been humiliating the whole industry for 6 years now

>>15086417
2 weeks

>>15086417
When We either
1) get a business model for it
2) get Both ultra cheap spaceflight and severe overpopulation

>nasa's budget doesn't cover the inflation
It's over

>>15086467
Good. If DC lizards won't shrink the budget in nominal dollars at least they can shrink it in real dollars

>>15086467
inflation isn't real

>>15086467
ESA’s budgets are great, they have built it inflation adjustments.

>>15086478
Of course it exists, the Forum of North American Finances keeps track of it. Search "fnaf inflation" for more information about it.

>>15086085
after this final Chinese launch (9th of the month!), is the SpaceX EROS launch this evening the final one of the year? It will be a rare retrograde orbit, to match other Israeli satellites.

>>15086514
>SpaceX EROS launch
Your mom's dildo to cap of the year.

SeX EROS launch in a few hours

>>15086502
Pretty good one

>>15086502
fuck you

>>15086537

>A solid-core nuclear thermal rocket can achieve >1500s Isp.
>It needs to use isothermal expansion, where propellant is continuously heated as it travels down the nozzle, and pressures low enough to dissociate hydrogen into atomic form (0.01 atm at 3500K).
https://twitter.com/ToughSf/status/1608447872558587904
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b4408704&view=1up&seq=178
chemfags btfo

they are filling the tank

>>15086566
why

>>15086555
poopy out my ass get trillions isp.
see, two can play at this game

>>15086566
WE GAAAN

Starship WILL fly this year

>>15086576
true

>>15086576
It will be a firework

>>15086576
anon...

>>15086585
NASA said so

>>15086576
based kiribati poster

Scrap SLS

Build Jupiter III

>>15086587
NASA has been regulatory-captured by the greatest conman on Earth

>>15086594
Those cows are unperturbed. These days even the livestock find SpaceX's testing boring and routine.

The main reason is that LOX isn't actually all that hard to handle.

>>15086620
oops, meant that as a reply for >>15086258

>>15086258

>exposure to even a microscopic amount will give you cancer

>>15086594
Wiggle wiggle wiggle

>>15086458
My eyes say a mix of both.

>>15086599
MDS in full force here

>>15086666
czech'd, guess we'll have to wait for mars colonization

>>15086594
I wonder if the wiggle wiggle wiggle is to stress test sloshing of fuels within the various pipes and chambers of the engine to determine if there's a failure point that may arise.

>>15086458
there will never more severe overpopulation than there is now

>>15086670
Not exactly what I was trying to say, but by a mix of both I meant that soon there will be even more private rocket companies will be founded and will be more cheap because of Lunar Mining, but the part about overpopulation was a meme the boomers fell for and now we may have to deal with demographics falling short.

>>15086673
pretty sure all those pipes are filled and under high pressure

Love me falcon, love me Terran R, love me long march 5, love me starship
Simple as
Neutron is okay, I’m neutral on it ironically enough
Vulcan is dumb but based because it steals resources away from BO
Hate SLS hate New Glenn

>>15086716
>steals resources away from BO
Crazy that BO agreed to donate all of those BE-4s for free. ULA got so lucky

>>15086728
BO was too cocky. Thought space was easy

>>15086419
I don't accept that

>>15086458
Overpopulation isn't a thing, every first world country is tanking in population sans immigration/replacement

>>15086729
Space is easy. They just choose to do it the hard way

why aren't Starship tiles made of graphite

>>15086729
I don't see any hardware for a Vulcan Centaur, except that he's going to take two New Glenn engines and put them together and that becomes the Vulcan. It's not that easy in rocketry.

>>15086735
enjoy watching them burning up into CO2

>>15086731
>I don't accept that
then tell me how and why it would happen

>>15086740
lol he looks so disappointed there

I don't remember if it was one of you flat foots or some pop-sci scum that was talking about Martian gravity giving us heath defects the other day, but when will we figure out the effects of partial gravity on the human body? Do health defects appear as soon as you change gravity one percent? Does it need to be a dramatic change? I really doubt Martian gravity will be that detrimental.

>>15086779
I wonder if a physically active Martian would have a worse health than a sedentary Earther or not.

Should I read Mars Direct?

>>15086781
the muscles we will not need will get weaker and that's a good thing

>>15086792
Mmmmmm I’d say no for a variety of reasons

>>15086798
Name a few

>>15086800
No

>>15086805
Why?

Did they test Starship again yet?

>>15086826
Yes

Did anyone ask Musk about what happened to the rapid iteration?

>>15086829
They are iterating the launch site.

The Sun is a spaceplane

I dont really get the point of launching rockets when you could just build a space elevator out of carbon nanotubes (stronger than steel)

>>15086841
Here is the neat part, you can't build it.

>>15086828
>well over a year and no progress
It's over.

>>15086857
*due to FAA regulations and the rotten Biden administration

>>15086841
I don't get the point of building space elevators when you can just build a teleportation chamber out of magic unobtanium ingots.

>>15086867
>space shuttle
>on the moon

>>15086735
Graphite is super heavy.

>>15086867
surprisingly many things that were once science fiction are now science fact

When's the next Shuttle flight?

>>15086876
The shuttle is retrd anon

>>15086417
Mars settlement and industry will come to rely upon the atmosphere and climate being what it is. There will be too much pushback from powerful Martian interests against terraforming the entire planet. Doming over large regions is what will happen instead.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1608621257804898304
>weather forecast is currently 30% favorable for liftoff
it's over

What could be a non-meme way to terraform Mars? I still wonder about nuking the ground until a volcano erupts.

>>15086878
No seriously when is it

>>15086872
Yes, but science fiction abounds with terrible predictions as well. Placing faith in something that doesn't yet have the material science required pop-sci tier behavior.

>>15086882
calm down, there is still the whole 31st for the 60th F9 launch

>>15086884
Import ice and volatiles from the outer solar system in small chunks launch in streams, then arrange for the streams to collide in low martian orbit to create fine ice dust that will settle down without too much disruption to the surface.
You can't do it entirely with Martian resources. Too much has been lost already.

>>15086841
Space elevator is too fixated on getting from Earth to Earth orbit. When there's a real space economy going on, most shipping will take place outside of gravity wells. Transport too and from the various planetary surfaces will be relatively low volume.
Earth in particular won't see as much traffic as you'd expect. If a space elevator is built it will be on Mars, where you can use more conventional materials.

>>15086893
>Import ice and volatiles from the outer solar system
I said non-meme ways. How much fuel/energy would this idea even require? (Dyson sphere is a meme too)

>>15086901
>How much fuel/energy would this idea even require?
No that much. You just need slightly disrupt the orbit of a kuiper belt object and you'll send it into an elliptical orbit deep into the solar system. Those fuckers are hardly moving at all to begin with. You could easily set up a mining facility either powered by mirror-concetrated sunlight or reactors, and use mass drivers to send the stuff inwards.

>>15086884
Just gotta turn on the machines the anvient aliens left
>>15086893
Just smash them on the ground bro. Best way to asteroid mine too.

>>15086884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV6hP9wpMW8

>>15086841
Just do tethered ring space launch instead

>>15086792
She looks like a man, but I still would.

"It's over" should be autofiltered to something funny.

>>15086938
It's not that easy in rocketry

>>15086911
Nah, start with a launch loop

>>15086594
Electric tvc

>>15086906
>tfw no three-titty muty gf

>>15086088
What ever has spacex to do more before you finally consider it a success?

>>15086884
Even if you did it's still fucking tiny. The whole northern hemisphere would be ocean, and the interior of the southern continent would be an arid wasteland as is typical with supercontinents. You'd have a single coastline stretching all the way around the planet, and that would be your comfy zone. It wouldn't amount to much more than the size of Europe.

>>15086981
if we can terraform mars then we can dig out new rivers and inland seas

>>15086258
because everyone uses the wrong storables.

HTP masterrace reporting in

>>15086989
actually no, the requirements for either would be pretty different, although nuking it a lot can work.

>>15086996
My love

https://twitter.com/taiverd/status/1608379175546634242
cool shit, I love renderfags

Rogozin lives

https://www.kp.ru/online/news/5077767/

>>15087073
LONG LIVE ROGOZIN

https://youtu.be/SQOEC9gHpmA?t=1839 Watch from here to 37:00


We have to go back ;_;

>>15087073
>ACK

>>15087076
unfortunately we are stuck with SLShit

Bros why dont we have one rocket drag another to space with a long cord???

>>15087073
>"I have a vagina!"

>>15087083
That cord better be made out of hopium.

>>15086781
Yes but for different reasons. The body uses gravity to do a lot of things that you don't think much about, like aiding digestion/food processing and letting blood and lymph move through the body without using excess energy.

>>15086879
Initially yes, but hopefully a full scale terraforming can take place

>>15086779
>when will we figure out the effects of partial gravity on the human body?
When we're able to test it
>Do health defects appear as soon as you change gravity one percent?
>Does it need to be a dramatic change?
There is not currently and has never been a way to test this long-term. We need a spin station to do that, or a sloped train circuit on the Moon for testing intermediaries between lunar and earth gravity.
You would know this, of course, if you spent a second considering your own questions instead of just vomiting them into the thread.

>>15087076
We never went to the moon retard
Other wise we would still be on the moon

>>15087170
Oh yeah explain pic related

>>15087173
Filmed in Disney headquarters

>>15087170
>Other wise we would still be on the moon
it's not that easy in budgetry

>>15087170
We went there and left. How is your iq this low

>>15087180
1% GDP is much more than 4% GDP back then even considering inflation.

>>15087178
Which are on the Moon

>>15087190
Every supposed "moon landing" was a trip to the moon. Why did we stop making trips to the moon?

Thoughts on gravitics?

https://twitter.com/graviticsinc/status/1608533193770033154?s=46&t=y1Ybq6ClDGRUR-wmonuK7w

>>15087194
Go back to /pol/ retard

>>15087199
It's nice to see someone building cans who's not Italian

>>15087199
literally who?
but seriously it's good to have a company that focuses on space infrastructure and not another small launcher

>>15087196
We still are, but our satan worshipping reptilian overlords are trying to hide it from us.

>>15087076
>Lemme throw the hammer
>Okay
>Lemme throw the hammer. Please.
>It's all yours
This video had me tearing up and then laughing like an idiot. I just want to goof around on the Moon with the lads.

>>15087196
Because it is expensive and the US had already beat the Russians. There was no economical exploitation to be done there, so there was no incentive to do it.

>>15087196
Nixon took us off the gold standard and our money became worthless. We could no longer afford to pay nazi engineers to build moon rockets for us.

>>15087073
This stunning and brave woman just completed her transition with a 155 mm shell and you chuds mock her?

>>15087214
>There was no economical exploitation to be done there
Then why are we going back?

>>15087249
Because going back can be used to justify giving a lot of big corporations a lot of other people's money

>>15087073
Barbaric Ukrainian invaders shelling space flight heroes. I have no sympathy for Ukraine

>Staying up till 2 AM to watch the Falcon 9 launch
Retarded or nah?

>>15087249
Earth has become too gay so we need to get the hell out of here

>>15087253
I stay up till 3am every night, but if it messes up your sleep schedule it's not worth it, it happens more than once a week

>>15087255
Yeah right

Absolutely baffling that some bloke paid 28 million USD for a 10 minute blue origin hop when Crew Dragon seats are 55 million

>>15087073

>>15087249
Because:
>It might just be the time such missions become economically viable
>There is still some national prestige to be had, even if much smaller if compared to the first Moon landing
>There is an identity politics incentive for it (first woman and black man yada yada)
>Keep funneling money into aerospace contractors like the Shuttle used to do

>>15087249
Because China wants to dominate the rest of the universe and the US got caught pants down with China's rapid growth of their space industry

>>15086153
Thats actually how i build my only solid rockets in KSP, pretty cool.

>>15087323
This is just like with the soviets. Ameribros got this

>>15087161
Okay, I should have worded it better to make the questions sound rhetorical, sure. I just hate when people say that Mars' low gravity will be detrimental when no one has any clue how it will actually effect us

>>15086085
/sfg/ Official song:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nW0APjXRckw

Fuck china and fuck trannies

>>15087286
Did we get a status update on the cock and balls?

>>15087416
Failed to achieve orbit - expected reentry somewhere over Kazakhstan.

>>15087416
Cock and Balls Separation Confirmed

>>15087161
>WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF ALL THE DEFORMED MUTANT CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN MY HEAD!?

>>15087442
Grim

>>15087442
Please be safe, captain

>>15086258
Because every bit of storable fuels can and will kill you with even slight exposure to either them or their sideproducts.
You can't breathe while near an open can of storables, you can't go near the byproducts, and inhaling even a sight amount will cause blisters inside your lungs, causing you to drown on dry land.

i am so MAD bros

>>15087442
>former Roskosmos administrator was nearly killed
>the first thing /sfg/ fixates on is his genitals
That image is a few days old at least. We haven't heard anything new

I'm starting to think that "space grade" is kind of bullshit, even in real spacecraft. At least in LEO because of the earth magnetic protection

>>15087461
SpaceX has proven that. JAXA, too, is literally using car manufacturing lines to help bring the H3 rocket’s cost down

>>15087452
Wtf happened?

>>15087454
what is the meaning of this picture, I know "pidaras" is like saying "faggot" or "marica" but why the old lady.

>>15087466
Dunno, multiple layers of russian injokes or references and such
But it is pretty funny, some old lady in a greeting card format with just "Faggot" written on it

>>15087463
Space is hard.

>>15087463
Don't worry zoomie someone will release a 50 minute video to spell it out for you

>>15086085
It happened again

>>15087476
Same vibe as pic related

>>15087479
what are you referencing lol

>>15087499
nta but probably scott manlet or estrogenaut

>>15087061
These are all from modded KSP.

>>15086085
I found my grandfather's souvenir from Vyborg in the early 2000's, a tea glass holder (Podstakannik) from ~1961-1962.
You can see Luna III, Sputniks 1-3, and Vostok 1 & 2 on the holder. Vostok 1 & 2 are still obviously the basic red rocket shapes, as Vostok's design didn't become public until the 1970's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0OQfukN-Ec
GET THE FUCK IN HERE BROS
LAST LAUNCH OF 2022
THE HIGHEST LAUNCH YEAR IN HISTORY OF ROCKET LAUNCH
THIS WAS A BIG YEAR AND YOU ALL HAVE SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF

>>15087518
oh
oh oh
oh GOD
I'M GONNA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONCH

>>15087452
Light one of the engines so it uprights itself

>>15087518
Stage separation, fairing deployed, beautiful as always

>400kg payload launched on AN ENTIRE Falcon 9
Smallsat launcher bros...how can we compete?

>>15087518
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1608726721880264706

Twitter livestream for SpaceX are now a thing too.

>>15087482
Looks like old footage to me

>>15087536
One thing's for sure, seeing a Falcon 9 first stage do a reentry burn that *starts* at a lower velocity than they normally shut off at during a Starlink mission is weird.

nice. I don't recall getting live landing AUDIO before.

>>15087518
> 160 landing
spacex keep humiliating the whole industry

The music is always great

>>15086088
They have the best medium lift by a mile, as for super heavy I have serious doubts about the Raptor 2 until I see a full duration burn and reuse.

>>15087542
It's far beyond humiliation at this point.

>>15086996
>>15087013
>turns to water if not actively cooled
How is that storable?

>>15087541
>launch audio
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1608729305496059906
>landing audio
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1608731470847156225

So now that SpaceX have done 60 launches in a year, how many are they going to aim for next year?

>>15087556
Is Falcon Heavy not a rocket?

>>15087556
61 this year

Next year's aim was 100 launch, but that was with the assumption Starship would add ~10-20 more.

But without such, it would likely be ~70-80

The rapid gimbal test here, especially near the 40s mark, its insane

>>15087570
Good sign they’ve moved on to this.

It's been 6 months,is Raptor 3 done yet?
>add electric servo drives
>delete throat film cooling
>delete flanges
>delete heat sensitive bits
>delete heat shrouds

>>15087571
I'm still waiting for a full duration Raptor 2 without it going engine rich.
I think they are trying to keep investors happy and avoid bringing attention to the fact every Raptor 2 has melted.

>>15087583
Thats sitll Raptor 2.

Not Raptor 3 is the Mars engine

>>15087593
no it's not, you are repeating lies

>>15087594
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1439224823549411329?lang=en

The Not Raptor is not just an iterative advancement on Raptor like Raptor 2, but an entirely new change that will bring the cost down by another 10X factor. An order of magnitude cheaper. Down from $250-$350K to $25-$35K

>>15087584
>private company caring about muh investor stunts
Kek.

>>15087597
Also this as well.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1460813037670219778

>Raptor 2 has significant improvements in every way, but a complete design overhaul is necessary for the engine that can actually make life multiplanetary. It won’t be called Raptor.

If that wasn't a clue enough

>>15087599
>if the public can't buy that means there are no investors
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/space-exploration-technologies/company_financials

>>15087601
Yeah and?

>>15087600
>musk realizing his dreams are unrealiatic bullshit and will never be acheived even if starship flies 3 times a day
yeah, nowhere did he say spacex is working on that. the estronaut interview is far less outdated than the shit you posted
>>15087601
the investors are already jumping ship.that's exactly why musk is selling sheet metal for $500 a pop.

>>15087608
If the Not Raptor is already a talking point for Musk in 2021, then it means the new engine design is already in the works.

Musk wanted to go to Mars, but F1 couldn't do it, is that mean its unrealistic? No. It just means they moved on to F9. That still couldn't do it. Then it moved to Starship's R1, then R2, and now NotRaptor engine.

All these things reach closer and closer to the goal. The nature of whether a goal is realistic or not depends on the effort put into the task and the progress made in that front.

>>15087608
>nowhere did he say spacex is working on that
Nowhere did he say SpaceX isn't working on it. What we have is a word from CEO and chief engineer of SpaceX giving hints about the next major roadmap for their engine development. That means its already in the path towards development.

>>15087608
>the investors are already jumping ship
I'll buy their cheapies then.

>>15087608
Gay post

Raptor 4 is being worked on. Source- L2

>>15087630
>L2

>>15087608
>the investors are already jumping ship
Btw I'm trans

>huge parts of /sci/ have not been archived in an efficient way
>warosu literally missing months worth of posts
>other archive sites are pointless
>>search has been disabled on this board
Why

>>15087725
This is easily the only thread on /sci/zo anyone would ever give a fuck about archiving

>>15087736
sfg has been dead for years

>>15087725
Test
>>13110743

Falcon 9/Heavy has exceeded 60 launches in one year. Absolutely wild. Even if it takes a decade for Starship to hit that cadence, it would still be amazing

>SpaceX completed almost half of all Space Shuttle flights in just one year
Holy shit

>>15087800
60 launch @ 20,000 kg = 1200 metric ton
10 launches @ 150,000 kg = 1500 metric ton
60 launches @ 150,000 kg = >9000 metric ton

>>15087811
Yep. The next decade is absolutely going to be absolutely mate.

>>15087811
>Each Starlink launch maxes out the Falcon 9
>A fully loaded reusable Falcon 9 has very roughly the same payload as your average Shuttle flight
If you think about it, the Falcon 9 has probably beaten the Shuttle by upmass.

koreans doing an 11th hour launch

>South Korea successfully conducts test flight of solid-fuel space vehicle
>The rocket is designed to put a small satellite into a low Earth orbit for surveillance operations
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20221230008753325

>>15087823
135 X 27.5 tons (shuttle) = 3713 tons when maxed out
194 (counting Amos 6) X 16 tons (Falcon 9 Reusable) = 3704 tons.
4 X 30 tons (Falcon Heavy Reusable) = 120 tons

3713 tons (Shuttle) vs 3800 tons (Falcon 9/Heavy). Yeah, Falcon has surpassed the shuttle

>>15087834
Congrats to South Korea. It’s great to see their space stuff growing lately

>>15087210
They're building space habitats that are explicitly designed to fit into starship's payload bay, but it doesn't seem to be a meme company, they actually seem serious about creating hardware.

>>15087834
Japan bros... it's ovari da.

>>15087583
>add electric servo drives
already done. B9 will get them

>>15087887
sk's program is iran-tier

>>15087897
latest test of the tvc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOol0ZF0a-U

>>15086981
There are 400 million people in europe.

>>15087210
If starship delivers we'll see exactly that.

>>15087562
Starship will launch this year, but probably only 5-8 launches (depends on if they get the Florida site ready before the end of the year.)
I think 100 launches for 2023 is still possibly, after all SpaceX essentially doubled their rate of launches from 2021-2022, so I could definitely see them do another big increase this year to hit 100.

>>15087584
They have done full duration Raptor 2 firings without melting, you're just retarded and posting as if we're still in february 2022

>>15087991
>Starship will launch this year, but probably only 5-8 launches
based tonga poster?

https://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/109.jvn.spring00/nuc_rocket/Dyson.pdf
another kind of starship

>>15088010
Dyson is based.
>refuses to get a degree past a bachelors
>elaborates anyways

>>15086879
>Doming over large regions is what will happen instead.
Mars too will have terrorists

>>15088027
Neuralink will stop any badthought, its gonna be like Avatar but uploaded Elon will be Eywa

>>15087874
I wonder if they know stuff we don't about Starship, they must be pretty sure about if it they're building stuff specially for it.

what's some good weekend spacekino

>>15088041
>I wonder if they know stuff we don't about Starship, they must be pretty sure about if it they're building stuff specially for it.
delusional

>>15087452
She was drunk

>>15088043
BBC's Voyage to the Planets, I think it's also labeled as Space Odyssey: Voyage to the Planets as well for the DVD release.

>>15088063
?

>>15087452
Sabotage by the FAA.

>>15088002
When I said "this year" I meant within the next 12 months, not 2022 exactly

>>15088041
>>15088063
not delusional, they could just have corresponded with SpaceX through email as a potential customer, that isn't insane or crazy for SpaceX to do.

>>15087725
why can't some site just archive text

>>15088165
and loose all that krystal porn? never

Has SpaceX effectively siphoned every competent spaceflight engineer in the USA?

>>15088223
not all of then yet

>53 Long March launches this year
>every single one succeeded
>9 of 11 of the "private" Chinese launches succeeded
There are no more excuses for having rockets that fail. The West needs to get its shit together.

>>15088258
it's not that easy in rocket explodery

>>15088223
A lot of competent spaceflight engineers did a tour of duty or two with SpaceX before going on to start other companies in the industry. SpaceX inspiring, training, and then releasing good talent out into the wild is an even bigger contribution to spaceflight than the Falcon 9.

>>15086941
Where would we build that?

>>15087570
the amount of force just being whipped around willy-nilly like that is terrifying, it's like a live fire hose but worse

hyperloop

>>15088333
has to be near the equator

>>15088328
It has to be near the equator

>>15088353
Does it?

>>15088353
I want to go on a road trip in the NASA RV

>>15088357
Yeah otherwise Coriolis forces fuck it up

could an algae colony survive space intensity radiation?

>>15088027
An engulfed metallic mesh is necessary anyway because of meteorites, so a rupture is limited in extension and gives enough time to repair it before a severe atmosphere loss.
Using explosives on it isn't really that different.
Anyway avoiding muslim immigration could help too, but I don't want to go /pol/.

>>15088407
>avoiding muslim immigration
what about the northern irish?

>>15088415
What about any Irish?

>>15086675
>>15086731
Overpopulation isn't a problem now or in the foreseeable future, but we have no idea about several centuries from now, which is the timespan we're talking about with mars colonisation.

You only get to pick three groups to ban from your mars colony - which do you choose?

>>15088456
jews, bantus and chinks

>>15088456
troons/progressives in general
anyone else is welcome

>>15088459
You took my answer

>>15088456
males, male-based androids, maga republicans

>>15088456
People who think the earth is a globe
People who love mars and space
People with a high school degree or higher
We going wild card

>>15088456
anti-musk retards, skeptics, astronomers

>>15088480
Based

>>15088456
Tutsis, Hakka and Tamils

>>15088456
Conservatives, progressives, any other kind of collectivists.

>>15088456
I ban one group from my mars colony. The group is named "anybody I don't like"

>>15088476
Lmao, I wonder how long the colony would last before it collapsed
>>15088474
Why out of all political groups you could ban you choose MAGA Republicans, when you could choose marxists or libertarians

>2022
>not a single starship flight

>>15088533
It turns out that space really is hard.

>>15088533
we're going backwards

When is SpaceX going to branch out into offensive weapons? Surely Musk understands that his Mars plans are contingent on the US remaining a major military power. The Chinese aren't going to suck his cock just because he has a car factory there.

>>15088533
ive seen that exact same post every day, its getting annoying you fucks, is the lamest bump you could do. At least post some rockets or space stuff but no. Just the same "its over", "when hop", "Ive been out of the loop... when is starship flying", and the worst is despite being the same post, retards here always reply anyway.
>inb4 you only complain but never post
I've post a lot here about space so fuck off.

>>15088533
it's not that easy in rocketry

So, what about the EVA suits from SpaceX and Artemis? Haven't heard any news from either of them.

>>15088533
We will launch this year. Trust the Tweets

>>15088537
I don't think its a good idea, at least with the current political situation. It would put everyone on their toes, and china would respond with even more dangerous and fast rocket/weapons development.

>>15088537
>The Chinese aren't going to suck his cock just because he has a car factory there.
Wasn't that factory closed due to lack of demand or something

>>15088545
I'm surprised one of you crazies hasn't tried to break into Starbase and try to launch Starship yourself.

What the fuck happened to Juno? I know they announced it got radiation problems but I'd expect for the new images to be already here.

>>15088555
You don't need to break into Starbase. You just need to be a teenager with sick hacking skills breaking into the SpaceX systems using two keyboards at the same time.

>>15088560
Yeah those lo images

>>15088539
haha, i mostly post space stuff as well. but the reality just hit me

>>15088533
>literally the most exciting happening in spaceflight since the 80s
>children are impatient about it

>>15088549
A lot of China is currently lacking in manpower because of riots and/or "covid" sickness.

>>15088456
Latin Americans, Eurasians, and Africans.

>>15088328
the traditional launch site for that is either across the entire Sahara or across the entirety of the Amazon rainforest in South America

>>15088568
You'll be lucky to see Starship launch next year.

Let that sink in.

>>15088549
>Wasn't that factory closed due to lack of demand or something
No

>>15088537
Retarded post.

>86 successful Falcon 9 landings in a row
Holy shit

Also, Falcon 9’s undergo individual engine testing, and then a 50 second static fire at McGregor, before doing a final static fire ahead of launch. Starship/Superheavy do individual engine tests at McGregor, and then a static fire at the launch site, but don’t do a 40-50 second with all engines like Falcon 9 do. I wonder if this will be an issue

Southern Andean indigenous people would be the best people to bring to space since they combine
-Adaptation to high altitude, UV and low oxygen concentration
-Larger brain size
-Small size

Second best would be Northern Tibetan

>>15088620
my boy Nairo would be a decent astronaut based on that

>>15088456
Africans, Asians, and South Americans

>>15087806
>>15088617
>Holy shit

We should revive the space shuttle with falcon side boosters

>>15088639
It is okay to basedjack about space

>>15088639
kek bro, it's so sóy to be happy about things, we are based because we are constantly dooming about everything

>>15087806
How many of them were manned?

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1608888254761422851
>Falcon 9 launched the ImageSat Intl EROS C-3 mission to orbit overnight, completing SpaceX’s 61st and final launch of 2022 — nearly double our record of 31 launches set last year
>On average, SpaceX launched every 6 days from one of our three sites with 92% of missions completed with flight-proven first stage rocket boosters, and Falcon 9 now holds the world record for most launches of a single vehicle type in a single year
>Most importantly, SpaceX successfully delivered our customers’ payloads to orbit, deployed additional Starlink satellites that add more capacity to our network, and flew critical cargo and astronauts to the ISS and safely returned them back home Earth

>>15088669
120 launches next year
E.

>>15088694
What did he mean by this?

What's the point in going to space if we can't even look after our own people? Fuck this, I'm considering erasing everything and just going off-grid. Humankind truly is pathetic.

>>15088701
You won't do shit, people like you don't last five days living off-grid.

This soibait is going to get 5 (You)s instantly.
Only encouraging the repeated posting of faggotry.

Im really tired of this niggerretards replying to that shit bait only to erode the only good thing about this godforsaken board.

The situation is bleak, guys. Due to structural issues, SpaceX currently is not able to launch Starlink V2 on Starship. Until that problem is fixed, we can't even think about launching commercial payloads.

>>15088714
Can confirm, I had this dream too

>>15088708
>>15088712
I'm sick of retards getting upset about other retards saying retarded shit to each other and then actually derailing the thread by whining about it.

>>15088717
is this some kind of meta joke?

>>15088716
They welded the Starlink dispenser shut.

https://twitter.com/StarshipGazer/status/1573091433015349248

Stop posting things I don't like, this is your last warning.

project orion

>>15088721
This post was obviously sent over the Starlink network.
It's about 4 months out of date.

>>15088617
They don't always do a 40-50 second static fire before launch anymore.

>>15088733
Is this the US equivalent of Kim Jong inspecting things?

>>15088751
No because the supreme leader is dignified.
Markusic is consooming the most vile sugar piss slop imaginable.

>>15088758
Frail zoomer hands wrote this post

>>15088667
only the ones that needed to be manned, unlike Shittle

Orion is finally back home

>>15088791
they will now initiate the refurbishment procedure

>>15088769
Can confirm.
Monster energy is fucking disgusting and only boomers love it.

>>15088793
By pulling out a couple of computers so they can spend the next two yeas recertifying them so they can then be reinstalled in a different capsule.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1608939906050715648
>For SpaceX’s first launch of 2023, we’re targeting 9:56 a.m. ET on Tuesday, January 3 for Falcon 9’s sixth dedicated smallsat rideshare mission to orbit
>There are 114 payloads on this flight, including CubeSats, microsats, picosats, and orbital transfer vehicles carrying spacecraft to be deployed at a later time

>>15088831
Shuttle junior

>>15088826
>There are 114 payloads on this flight
This is why every smallsat launch company that can is trying to upgrade to a bigger rocket.

Some interesting info from L2
>A Falcon 9 first stage has been spotted in McGregor’s scrapyard. No one knows which one this is but it is a Block 4 model.
> B7 should be rolling out next week
>Ship 24 will do a six engine test to confirm everything is good
>“End of year message from our team leader (at SpaceX) said to enjoy Starship’s debut “In January””

>>15088846
FBI is already coming to your location

>>15088847
Lol

>>15088846
Also I forgot to add
>Launch license is actively being worked on and is almost done.
>FAA needs data from the 33 engine test and a full stack WDR to determine hazard zones
>Ironically, the biggest reason for the Starbase slowdown is Gwynne Shotwell. The push is to make Starship development more like Falcon 9. The reason? Lots of stupid mistakes in Starship dev in the past due to their “dude send it lol” mentality
>SpaceX and NASA are hoping B7S24 actually makes it to orbit instead of just “getting data”

>>15086841
cringe space elevator delusionist
>>15086867
based space elevator realist

>>15088791
That thing returned to earth in a ball of fire, the fuck is so delicate on that thing that they need to create a bunker on wheels with climate control?

>>15088831
SUS SUS SUS AMONGUS

>>15088862
it's for the ayys onboard

>>15088862
You want mutant tardigrades running amok?

>>15088870
Tardigrades are bros. It's the Aspergillus that you got to keep your eye on.

>>15088873
The Mir Goo Bubble would like to have a word with you

>>15088846
>>15088852
Apart from the Falcon 9 line, the rest is pretty much obvious.
>B7 should be rolling out next week
Road closure
>Ship 24 will do a six-engine test to confirm everything is good
That's obvious, after recent modifications.
>“End of year message from our team leader (at SpaceX) said to enjoy Starship’s debut “In January””
Elon time
>Launch license is actively being worked on and is almost done.
>FAA needs data from the 33 engine test and a full stack WDR to determine hazard zones
Also obvious, based on NASA presentation.
>Ironically, the biggest reason for the Starbase slowdown is Gwynne Shotwell. The push is to make Starship development more like Falcon 9. The reason? Lots of stupid mistakes in Starship dev in the past due to their “dude send it lol” mentality
No shit, the methane tank saga proves that.
>SpaceX and NASA are hoping B7S24 actually makes it to orbit instead of just “getting data”
For me, it looks like they're setting the expectation low. No Starship during hop failed during the ascent and Booster lights up fine, so it seems like the most dangerous point might be stage separation, which can't be tested on the ground.

So how much did you pay?

>>15088831
>entire suit is kino white and gold
>just get some grandma green rainboots

Is Tesla and Twitter stock taking a dump going to affect SpaceX in any way? Will Elon have to sell the company or be forced out?

>>15088890
Twitter is private, just like SpaceX.

>>15088459
>bantus
Who?

>>15088881
20 bucks lol. Everyone hyped stage sep as a big issue but is it really?

>>15088890
>>15088893
Why the fuck did Elon drop $45 billion on Twitter?

>>15088890
Yes,it's finally gonna kill all the companies including SpaceX. Tesla/SpaceX/Twitter will go bankrupt in a matter of months. This is a long time coming for Musk, the con man to end all con men.

>>15088901
I'm not sure how big it is, but it's a problem that you can't test on the ground, as I said earlier. You can run the engine for a few minutes or do a rapid relight at McGregor and do multiple static fires at Starbase but dynamic stage separation is pretty much impossible outside of simulations. It's basically an unknown, that is the issue. It may or may not cause problems. Falcon 1 got fucked during the second flight because interstage bumped into an engine bell.
>>15088905
Because the prank has gone too far and he was forced to buy it,

What if the space shuttle were designed even MORE to the Air Force's specifications haha

Tranposter-6 is going to deploy 114 satellites to orbit. Is this a record?

>>15088928
I'm not actually sure how they could. What specifications and capabilities did the Air Force want that the Shuttle didn't get?

>>15088928
It would be even cooler.

>>15088920
It’s kind of funny that each of the high altitude hops by SN8-SN15 which failed ended up crashing because of some weird issue no one saw coming. If B7S24 is to fail to reach orbit, watch it be due to a weird issue

Lads did you hear the news?
https://old.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/zzd9hl/tesla_model_y_is_now_the_bestselling_car_in_all/

>>15088954
>>>/o/

>>15088936
more cross range and interception, possibly.

>>15088956
you don't get it anon
this is /musk fag general/

The shuttle had a target flight rate of once per week. Falcon 9 has exceeded this. Is Falcon 9 the true successor to the shuttle?

>>15088970
no, that would unironically be whenever any of the SSTO startups gets their thing working (never in 5ever)

>>15088970
No, because the majority of Falcon 9 flights are unmanned and the second stage is expendable. If you want competition, look at Soyuz.

>>15088974
???
External tank was expendable

>>15088973
SSTO will happen eventually, it’s just modern materials tech and propulsion isn’t there yet. 100 years from now who’s to say there aren’t air breathing SSTOs that switch to fusion drives at high altitude

>>15088970
The price and flight rate are right, but Falcon 9 is a little short on payload mass to orbit and the fairings are too short for major payloads. Its done enough that the rest of the industry is reshaping itself to compete and take advantage of what Falcon 9 can do, though.

>>15088974
F9 is mannable

>>15088970
If you took the second stage and reworked it into a reusable spaceplane, then yes.

>>15088899
niggers

>>15088987
How hard would it be to fix a Dragon to F9 stage 2 and then put wings + TPS on the stage?

>>15088990
Payload mass goes to zero hard.

>>15088978
I think so too, maybe with aerospikes or those rotating detonation engines. I don't think any of those current startups will succeed.

>>15088978
orbital elevator before SSTO.
Earth's gravity is a smothering embrace.
Won't be surprised if humanity finds out in a distant future that earth is pretty much a tombworld because our gravity was too high and we somehow beat the odds to escape.

>>15088987
Could you put a Dream Chaser on top of a F9 booster? Or some other booster or spaceplane?

>>15088999
yes, and they have put the x-37 on falcon.

>>15088997
>orbital elevator before SSTO.
Starship+Superheavy is aiming to be cheaper than a Space Elevator's estimated cost for a kilogram of payload to orbit already.

>>15089009
if it ever gets of the ground again.

>>15088999
Dream Chaser is just a fancy capsule though. The point is to reuse Falcon 9 stage 2 too

>>15088456
Jews, anyone on the left of the political spectrum, redditors

>>15088441
Keep moving Padraig - Mars is a whites only planet

january surprise incoming

>>15088846
what ever happened with having 9 raptors on starship? or moving back the flap position to decrease # of unique tiles? stretching tanks? optimizing the booster chines to to taper off toward the top?

>>15089109
starship stacked explodes on the pad

>>15088914
Do you realize noone else have manned interplanetary ambitions, faggot?

How many vehicles can be docked to the ISS at the same time? I was wondering if it could have a Basedus, a Dragon, a Starliner and a Dreamchaser all at the same time there.

>>15088899
embarassing

>>15089136
do you realize that was a fucking lame bait, retard?

>>15088537
When he's secure on Mars and its time to end the Earther menace once and for all.

>>15089142
fuck I forgot soyuz had an z

>>15089136
you're lying

>>15088393
It would be very painful

>>15089149
This isn't interplanetary ambitions, this is aerospace contracts ambitions

>>15089009
Why is the idea of a space elevator or an SSTO so commona an idea in popsci, yet any fully reusable launch vehicle is likely to cost significantly less? Is it that the Jews in media don't like portraying that cheap space travel is something we could do in a few years rather than a few hundred? because thats what it seems like

>>15089173
Space Elevator Economics were envisioned in a world where the Space Shuttle was a costly failure and rocket based launch costs were broadly going up. The kind of optimism needed to imagine a rocket that is cheaper than a space elevator was groundless.

>>15089173
It's a leftover from the oldspace era were rockets were a costly expendable disaster.

>>15089173
Space elevator is less polluting and more equitable since it would be run by the UN rather than rockets owned by a private company.

>space elevators
>ssto
>meme drives
>mars colonization
Can we have discussions about things that can actually happen during our lifetimes?

>>15089200
I would love to talk about the launch of New Glenn!

>>15089203
well I'm waiting for that too

>>15089200
>things that can actually happen during our lifetimes?
speak for yourself boomer

>>15089173
remember less than 20 years ago NASA itself thought sstos were the next step in reusable spaceflight, and that they might have succeeded if given more funding.

>>15089200
space elevator construction has already begun in new mombasa.
starship can ssto.
fusion is solved.
mars wont be colonized but it's elon's fault and no one else's.

>>15089218
I'm an older zoomer retard, and none of those things will happen before 2100.

>>15089200
Human on mars in our lifetime.
i believe.

>>15089242
Landing humans on Mars is far from colonizing it. Research stations are also not colonization.

>>15089249
humans will grow food in their own shit on mars before you die.

>>15089270
And?

>>15089273
and they will eat it

Imagine if SpaceX gets to flex yet again and rescue all 7 people on the ISS.

https://blogs.nasa.gov/spacestation/2022/12/30/station-crew-wraps-up-a-busy-year-as-soyuz-review-continues/
>As a part of the analysis, NASA also reached out to SpaceX about its capability to return additional crew members aboard Dragon if needed in an emergency, although the primary focus is on understanding the post-leak capabilities of the Soyuz MS-22 spacecraft.

>>15089277
And what has this to do with anything?

>>15089283
it's one step closer.

>>15089282
Aren't the ruskies just sending up an empty Soyuz?

>>15089288
>Implying it won't just break again
>Implying the Russians have the budget to pay for it
>Implying the Russians might just try to send the NASA astronaut as well as their cosmonauts back on an unsafe spacecraft because they give zero fucks

>>15089288
No, they need the fuel for the legendary armata t14 armata.

>>15088669
>On average, SpaceX launched every 6 days from one of our three sites with 92% of missions completed with flight-proven first stage rocket boosters, and Falcon 9 now holds the world record for most launches of a single vehicle type in a single year
Beating the Russians at their game with 100% success rate too