/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15082178
What if you don't ask her out and are creepy?
Also the third postulate is incorrect, not dating one girl doesn't ruin your life.

>>15082178
Maybe become less creepy, by working on improving yourself. I swear, zoomer kids these days have no understanding of how to live real lives.

"Creepy" is not an attribute describing behavior. It is merely another word for unattractive. The same behavior is creepy when done by an ugly nerd, and flirty when done by a tall Chad.

>>15082183
>What if you don't ask her out and are creepy?
that seems to be the solution to OPs riddle, luckily they do apply

>>15082188
>Maybe become less creepy, by working on improving yourself.
There are Chads out there exactly for this purpose.
I will continue pursuing science and mathematics, and being a creep.

>>15082212
Cope. I am a math nerd at class and fit and attractive at the same time, though I'm still working on social gains

>>15082217
Good for you! You are a Chad (almost), go and ask her out. I will be studying science and mathematics and won't interrup you.

here is the thing. I could spend my time and energy on some thot or make some good food take a huge shit (I love shitting) then jerk off and nut super hard since I cumstack. which will I choose?? ? ? ?

>>15082212
It’s all about finding the right balance.

>>15082178
>zoomers are so terrified of rejection that a woman not wanting to go on a date is "life ruining"

>>15082178
i always figured that i would study hard and contribute to society while remaining an incel, and then, one day, i would commit some horrific act for my own self-indulgence, and then we'd be even.

>>15082325
Presumably the life ruining part is not the actual rejection but the social ostracization after the fact due to people finding out you are a creep and agterwards not wanting to associate with you (because who wants to be firends with a creepazoid future criminal)

>>15082338
From this post alone I can tell you've never asked anyone out in your life.

>>15082342
good for him, he made the right call

>>15082346
Keep telling yourself that and one day you'll actually believe it.

>>15082348
what even is this post? do you think i dont actually believe it? maybe you dont grasp the magnitude of psychopathy present on this board. i just saw someone advocating for executing niggers in the streets in another thread. you think staying away from women is a radical idea? i think you should find another website.

>>15082354
I think you're trying to delude yourself into believing this to avoid getting hurt by trying in the first place. Don't talk to me about finding another website, I've been here longer than you've been alive and I'm speaking from experience.

>>15082348
Find another site to sully, you evil coward.

>>15082318
Each to their own. I have found the right balance, it's 0 women and a life of work/research

>>15082338
Why are you such a creep that this girl felt it necessary to bring it to the attention of others? That means you need to make a change

>>15082361
>>15082369
If you'd like to keep reaffirming your delusions I'd suggest you go check out /r9k/ or /adv/.

>>15082342
I don't agree with it but that's what an incel would believe. I am simply employing theory of mind
>>15082178 actually implies the dominant strategy is to ask her out because if you don't ask her out then your life is "ruined" regardless of creepiness wheras if you do ask her out there is a chance you are not creepy and your life is not "ruined", meaning that asking her out has the same or better outcome and is thus the dominant strategy

>>15082372
It's not based on a real scenario retard. Hence the word "presumably"

>>15082359
lol didnt realize 4chan was around in the 90s.
you should really try to be more sympathetic towards incels, boomer. long gone are the days where you just walk up to a girl, give her a firm handshake and tell her youre not letting go until she comes with you to the sock hop. women are more educated and less dependent on men, its a whole new playing field. social circles are orders of magnitude larger, interactions are more distilled and less personal. sexual markets are more competitive. if you put a gun to my head and told me to ask a girl out, you would have to shoot me by default because i know zero single women. whatever advice you have to give to incels, well-meaning or otherwise, simply cannot compete with staying home and jerking off. its a monstrous undertaking for the modern single young man to find a partner. iunno, something has to change, but "just go ask women out" aint it. whats your experience?

>>15082325
Yes

>>15082338
No, it is about the rejection, not what others might think, most times I have been out, I didn't even know the majority of people around me because I live in a city with like a million places to go out, if bunch strangers same me getting rejected, who cares what they think.

>>15082359
not him but why should I put myself in situation where I will get hurt, when I don't want to get hurt in first place?

>>15082373
What delusions? I am single, I have no problems with it, women don't have a problem with me being single and not bothering them(they hace Chads). Everyone is happy, what is the issue then?

>>15082178
I've never asked a girl out. I got the strong suspicion she was into me and then I suggested some kind of fun shit with friends not a 'I will corner you and make you uncomfortable' type invite. Then from there she goes with you after and penis goes in venus.

You should know a girl is already interested by instinct just cold calling with a 'I want to coom' type vibes will fail. If you go on some internet date don't give a fuck and just party, they will pick up on your chad-isness

>>15082385
Not everyone lives in the city, what if they live in a town where everyone knows everyone? Also incels are not rational and don't realize that the nightmare scenario is not very likely. It's catastrophizing

>>15082379
So he’s avoiding things because he’s worried about situations he thinks are unlikely to happen? Yeah makes sense

>>15082393
G-d, I wish I could live in small town in countryside.

>>15082389
https://incels.wiki/w/Incel#Chadsplanation

>>15082412
ba ba ba based

>>15082412
I was the biggest math nerd in my whole school and still got laid.
Tfw I'm considered chad by /r9k/ schizos sweet

>>15082504
It's good that you devoted some amount of your thinking to figuring out how to get laid, in high school. That's the right way to approach life if you're smart.

>>15082191
hmm, i think... you have to..'find your way out of the maze' if an 8 year old boy tries to ask out, it's not creepy, but obviously the 8 year old brain hasn't finished maturing. dog eat dog world. 90% of is survival. only 10% is game.

growing up without a father is like playing life on hard mode. i didn't even know i was stuck inside a maze until a i fell to the bottom. you get confidence from finding your way out the maze.

>>15082383
>i know zero single women
being caught in a state of negativity is like one step above feeding off evil.
>>15082383
>incels,
other men are a bad influence on you if you're parroting internet buzzwords. do you have a shot at a silver lining or not. think binary

>>15082383
>but "just go ask women out"
parents be giving you empty advice like 'get a job' just because they don't want you sleeping on their couch. do they know if im just standing on the street corner drinking 40 ouncers? need to realize you're alone in a uncaring world and learn to adapt. you know in the one movie when they say 'show no love, love will get you killed.' incel dudes are just hiding their love in a retarded way. if you were actually using it other dudes would be trying to take it away from you like a wallet filled with 100 dollar bills

>>15082191
>It is merely another word for unattractive.
It means short like you creep up on people without them realizing because you are tiny and your footsteps sound equally tiny making you creepy.

>>15082191
>>15082531
If a normal guy she's not interested in asks her out, she rejects him but still feels flattered. But if "creep" asks her out, she just wishes he never even asked.

>>15082525
Holy shit, this is a discussion or maybe casual conversation, but we are not asking for your advice, keep it to yourself when no one asked for it, if you want to give advice wait until people ask for it.
I haven't had sex in 10 years, I have all heard all this shitty advice from chads and bros countless, I can repeat it my sleep, you think you are telling us something new? Your not.

>>15082534
>If a normal height guy she's not interested in asks her out, she rejects him but still feels flattered. But if manlet asks her out, she just wishes he never even asked.

>>15082536
i have a question: did you read that guys post? did it sound coherent to you? i feel like im going insane, this happens so often, ill read some schizo babble and people just reply to it like its normal, im losing my fucking mind over here

>>15082543
>schizo babble
nigga what you call me?!?!?! muddafacker

>>15082540
I am 6ft tall, king of manletts and I don't owe her flattery. If I go out I will drink with buddies(I hardly ever go out) and ignore all females in the room, regardless if I know them or not.

>>15082548
OP referred to your incel cope as philosophers when polled.

>>15082543
Not really, the 8 year child old part out of nowhere sounded creepy, not like incel approaching woman creepy, but legit fucking creepy before creepy was associated with incels, I mostly just ignored most of it because his mental retardation is not important to me.

>>15082552
I am an incel not some goddamned philosopher

>>15082555
It was a OP's euphemism, you followed the exact path OP laid out for his incel philosophers even if you aren't capable of introspecting and making the decision on your own.

>>15082560
not true. I will not ask her out because I really don't want to get involved with female in any way shape or form, I will not ruin my life by doing this, there is a remote chance that she wouldn't get creeped out if I approached her, once again I don't owe her anything, I don't owe her going out of my way, I don't owe her resulting flattery, unlike many incels, I don't expect anything of her except to stay out of my way and I will stay out of hers, other than that she does not owe me anything and I don't owe her anything.

>>15082602
>Most philosophers when polled choose not to ask her out.
You chose the exact same scenario as the majority of OP's incel philosophers even if you aren't a philosopher and can not introspect on your decision making processes using pointless circular reasoning like you don't want to ask them out because you don't want to ask them out without understanding the future implications of loneliness and how it ruins one's life.

>>15082614
My reasons for not approaching her are different, the notion that staying single will make me lonely is just false. Some might feel lonely, I don't. I also know countless divorsed people who are now free and independant, living by themselves and they are happiest (even after losing tons of money in divorse) that they been since they were kids, I know few others who are married and husband and wife hate each other but have to stay together due to financial matters etc.
These dumb philosophers are probably 18 yo college students who have been in college for few months and did not find the wild sex and drug fuelled college life they were expecting and have now turned "new leaf", "changed their lives" and became incels. Their outlook is about 2-3 months into the future, last week they were incels, this week they became philosophers and started asking retarded questions in 4chan, what they will do next week, fuck knows.

>>15082633
>My reasons for not approaching her are different,
You don't have reasons, you aren't a philosopher, you don't want to ask them out because you don't want to ask them out, that is all the reasoning you can justify.

>the notion that staying single will make me lonely is just false.
Single people die younger, no matter how much denial you are in about your numbed sense of loneliness.

>they are happiest
No retarded people are the happiest, you have never witnessed pure joy until you have been in the company of a happy retard.

>These dumb philosophers
They came to the exact same conclusions as you, they are no more or less dumb than you are except they have a deeper understanding of why they are living your lifestyle beside they do it because its what they do.

>>15082641
>Single people die younger, no matter how much denial you are in about your numbed sense of loneliness
Yeah sure, you are so smart, you know peoples true feelings, you can probably read their minds too

>numbed sense of loneliness
what about over excited sense of companionship? and when it crashes down and reality hits, kek. No thanks, I will be ok by myself.

>>15082641
>single people die you ger
But is this caused by being single or is the cohort of single people made up of people who are more likely to die early due to other factors? Does this statistic exclude people who die young before they have a chance to even try dating?

>>15082653
I don't need to know their true feelings to know that they die at a much younger age often from deaths of despair due to their suppressed loneliness.

>what about
Nice, have any other coping mechanisms you use to justify your lonliness and increased likelihood of and early death by despair in your 60s when you realized your health is failing, you are fragile, and you have no mate or children to help you get through the days?

>>15082188
>Maybe become less creepy, by working on improving yourself.
Why should people cater for your mental illness? Nobody's responsible for your paranoid delusions.

>>15082670
Catering is big business you can make a lot of money catering.

>>15082674
No that is not funny.
Really it isn't anyone else's problem that people make you feel paranoid.

>>15082682
Is the paranoia in the room with your right now?

>>15082534
Don't blame her. It's usually men who accuse each other of rape, even to the point of sabotaging your relationships and "explaining" to her why she shouldn't date you.

>>15082684
You are not making sense.

>>15082684
Yes.

>>15082689
I am just trying to match your energy.
Where has the paranoia touched you?
Why did you bring it up in the first place?

>>15082692
It touched me in place you never got touched.

>ASKING A GIRL OUT WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE!!!
>how do you know? have you ever adked a girl out?
>NO!!!
>why?
>BECAUSE IT WILL RUIN MY LIFE!!!!
/pol/-induced circular reasoning

>>15082694
Makes sense, forced buttstuff is a well known cause of mental illness. Sorry about your journey, but good luck.

>>15082701
>immediately thinks of homosexuality
You have no excuse being gay and a virgin.

>>15082698
>EATING LEAD WILL KILL YOU
>how do you know, have you tried?
>NO
>why
>BECAUSE IT WILL KILL YOU
see. I can be retarded too.

>>15082702
It the place where even the sunshine doesn't touch, only place I can think of I haven't been touched, you know that to be a fact, your freudian slips are too transparent, and you know what they say about homophobes like you and how they are the most deeply closeted gays of all who immediately equates not engaging in gay acts with being a virgin when men aren't typically associated with virgins since virgin is a way to describe the soil, not the seed which is probably confusing to someone like you who clearly desperately hopes to get soiled by other men.

>>15082707
>you know what they say about homophobes like you
Writing a paragraph on why you're not gay and then accusing me of hating gay people. Anon, you're projecting.

>>15082705
>why don't you eat lead?
>because we have thoroughly studied and experimented with it and we know it's bad
>why don't you ask a girl out?
>BECAUSE OF THE THREADS I'VE SEEN ON R9K!!!!

>>15082711
I am not the one who brought up homos, you are the one who immediately associated butts with homosexuality. I also didn't deny anything just showed how your flimsy reasoning and projection applies more to yourself than some stranger you know nothing about and you are the one doing the things you are accusing other of from being paranoid to being homo.

>>15082714
Good job anon. You almost did it. I'm a faggot because I care. Now just make the final leap. You can do it.

>>15082716
>I am not the one who brought up homos
Says the guy who's first thought is immediately anal sex. It's ok to be gay anon. Incel talking points just don't work when it involves gay men though.

>>15082717
You don't even believe his problem let alone care about it.

>>15082720
I didn't say sex, I said forced butt stuff, could be some kind of accident or a rough doctor appointment, you are the one who immediately associated butts with sex when you realized I had never been touched there.

>It's ok to be gay anon
You can keep telling that to yourself, but do you really accept it as your truth, if so why are you still hiding from it and being so paranoid that it is all the incels in the world who are secretly gay rather than just yourself?

>>15082721
My incel stance has always been
>yes it's hard, yes it's unfair, yes it's risky. But if being alone hurts this much either find a way to game the system and get bitches or kys. Don't kys out of hate but out of peace, why suffer for 40 years if you know it will not get better?

>>15082728
Again with the paragraphs. You really need to stop suppressing this dude.

>>15082742
What a surprise the closet case refuses to even read things that prove he is a closet case.

>suppressing
You are the one who brought it up and keeps going back to it, you are the one who clearly needs to get something off your chest.

>>15082742
>>15082746
You're both incredibly gay. Now let this faggot /r9k/ sobfest thread die.

>>15082746
>refuses to even read things
If I want to waste time I go on wikis.

>>15082748
Sorry anon. I'll stop.

>>15082749
Sure you just accidentally have a bunch of 4chan tabs open to waste time just like you accidentally can't relate to never being touched in the butt and the thought that other people haven't only makes you paranoid about being gay over the course of dozens of posts that don't go anywhere and only serve to waste your time so you don't spend it being gay.

>>15082751
Good, at least you finally confirm you were gay, but no need to stop since as you said earlier, there is nothing wrong with that, right?

Hopefully this exchange has helped with your paranoia from being deeply closeted, you can pay me my catering fees at your convenience.

>>15082692
>Where has the paranoia touched you?
>Why did you bring it up in the first place?
Because you suffer from paranoia, but blame it on people being "creepy", and claim they should "work in themselves" to not make you feel paranoid.

>>15082692
>Where has the paranoia touched you?
>Why did you bring it up in the first place?
Because you suffer from paranoia, but blame it on people being "creepy", and claim they should "work on themselves" to not make you feel paranoid.

>>15082756
Even if you're not gay, you argue like a woman. You should probably be more ashamed of that desu.

>>15082758
That is not what anon said at all though.
They said if you think you are creepy you should work on yourself until you think that you are not.
You are clearly the paranoid one suffering delusions and looking for reasons to lash out at others instead of introspecting on your own actions.

>>15082762
sry, -->>>15082760
It's a perfectly normal reaction to being called dangerous for standing incorrectly or whatever.

>>15082761
Ok, so not only are you a deeply closeted gay, but you wish you were a woman too, the conversation and your explosive anger at literally nothing is starting to makes sense given you definitely understand by now that you will never be a woman, you will always be a low value male with a deeply gay history.

>Replies: 81
>Posters: 21
You are both faggots, maybe take it to /s/ so you can exchange nudes

>>15082325
>boomer out of the game for 20 years can't empathize with modern men
many such cases