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Is Autism Speaks actually that bad? Only people who ever seem to hate on it are just normie shitlibs who think a woman can have a penis. Are there any real valid problems with them

>> No.15065481

>>15065477
Some aspies are mad because they want to cure autism, and aspies don't always want to be cured (because they get disability neetbux for being layabouts).

>> No.15065490

>>15065481
>and aspies don't always want to be cured (because they get disability neetbux for being layabouts).
Fucking cretins. I get neetbux, but I WANT to be cured so I don't need neetbux and all my autism deficiencies are cured.

Howabout AS' preferred treatment methods. I hear ABA is hated by faggots who spoil their sperg children

>> No.15065493 [DELETED] 

A lot of autism is just a personality type, a "cure" is a lobotomy.

>> No.15065508

>>15065477
>Are there any real valid problems with them
Yes.

1. Squandered millions of dollar that went into the pockets of board members
2. The board members themselves interestingly enough all have connections with other large corporations.
3. The organization was very much interested in artificially increasing the number of autism cases by lobbying for lowered thresholds and questionable awareness programs.
4. Lobbied on a national level to make insurance companies pay for autism therapies that have been shown to be useless and damaging.
5. Claims to represent autistics but never did.
6. Published data on what it and on how much money they made which turned out to be false. The organization, on more than one occassion, had to retract their claims.
7. Propagated and promoted a dumbed-down version of science with quick answers and fixes that also usually turned out to be false.

There's a lot more but pretty much all of it, including the points I made, are not limited to the organization and can be found in any 'advocacy' group. Last but not least, autism is a made-up diagnosis and the organization very much pushed the diagnosis to regenerate revenues for itself and the business it represented (and was funded by)

>> No.15065511

>>15065493
You're right. A personality at odds the most with the modern world.

>> No.15065519

>>15065511
Most of the 'modern world' is trash anyway.

>> No.15065529

>>15065508
>1. Squandered millions of dollar that went into the pockets of board members
>2. The board members themselves interestingly enough all have connections with other large corporations.
So they're an average non-profit. Oy very, I hope peeps don't look into BLM!
>3. The organization was very much interested in artificially increasing the number of autism cases by lobbying for lowered thresholds and questionable awareness programs.
Okay and? You think the limpwristed faggots making blogs and videos about how bad AS is support rigorous testing that might remove them from the in group?
>4. Lobbied on a national level to make insurance companies pay for autism therapies that have been shown to be useless and damaging.
"Useless and damaging."
>5. Claims to represent autistics but never did.
Except they did by being an advocacy group. What, just because some faggots say "they don't speak for me on" I'm just supposed to listen to that asshole on principle?
>6. Published data on what it and on how much money they made which turned out to be false. The organization, on more than one occassion, had to retract their claims.
So a non-profit organization.
>7. Propagated and promoted a dumbed-down version of science with quick answers and fixes that also usually turned out to be false.
Cool, let's see how these people condemning AS react when they look over anything that challenges gender orthodoxy

>> No.15065546 [DELETED] 

>>15065529
>Oy very, I hope peeps don't look into BLM!
Doesn't invalidate my point.
>about how bad AS is support rigorous testing that might remove them from the in group?
Is this about them or you?
>Except they did by being an advocacy group.
There's a difference between representing and just usurping. Even if you agree with the goals, it would just seem weird to claim that an organization that made sure that none of the clientel, it allegedly represented, could ever meaningfully participate in the organization itself.
As far as I know, the organization nominally represented the interests of parents which on its own already let to tons of problems.

>> No.15065549

>>15065546
>represented the interests of parents which on its own already let to tons of problems
Oh boo hoo, parents being advocates and conservators of disabled children, how awful.

>> No.15065553

>>15065529
>Oy very, I hope peeps don't look into BLM!
Doesn't invalidate my point.
>about how bad AS is support rigorous testing that might remove them from the in group?
Is this about them or you?
>"Useless and damaging."
Yes, the therapies they lobbied for (and still do to this day) have never been shown to have any lasting effect ignoring its detrimental impact on children. More importantly, the organization was never able to prove nor provide anyone with a good argument as to how behavioral therapy could fix what they themselves called a neurological problem. Non-profit organizations love the child-misbehaves-to-brain-disorder pipeline but if your organization doesn't simply push drugs, the business plan might actually backfire.
>Except they did by being an advocacy group.
There's a difference between representing and just usurping. Even if you agree with the goals, it would just seem weird to claim that an organization that made sure that none of the clientele, it allegedly represented, could ever meaningfully participate in the organization itself.
As far as I know, the organization nominally represented the interests of parents which on its own already led to tons of problems.

>> No.15065563

>>15065549
>parents being advocates and conservators of disabled children, how awful.
Again, is this about them or is this just the self-loathing ramblings of an autistic cretin? I already provided you with lots of reasons why this non-profit for-profit organization sucks ass regardless of whether or not you support their goals.

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>>15065563
Except you completely ignore the fact that the kind of people who hate on AS are the kind of people who should not have their opinions validated

>> No.15065579

My experience with critics of Autism Speaks is that they're 99% autistic people who either feel like they were personally affected by the work of Autism Speaks or are disgusted by it based on what they've read, if you think high functioning autistic/asperger individuals are human then you should care what they have to say
Btw autism correlates heavily with 'non binary gender identities' especially for autistic females so any correlation you find among youtubers is just because autists are very likely to have gender issues

>> No.15065584

>>15065579
So basically it's all a bunch of whiny retards who shouldn't be listened to 2 and if anything, mercilessly insulted

>> No.15065604

>>15065575
>that the kind of people who hate on AS are the kind of people who should not have their opinions validated
This is completely irrelevant when it comes to the arguments they make. If you want to own the 'libs', do it in some other way. Not one that will end up harming you.
>>15065579
No, the biggest issue that I personally have with Autism Speaks is how they deliberately used 'low-functioning autism' as a boogeyman to scare parents of Asperger/barely autistic children into wanting to buy lots of services and therapies. In the process, the organization has contributed to a new definition and conceptualization of childhood. Now, you have to continuously monitor your child's development and progress and if that development goes slightly awry, whatever that means, you have to do everything to correct that mistake. I personally think that it is incredibly sad when a society starts thinking of its children as investments that eventually have to return a profit. Yet, it fits our time.

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>>15065477
AS is basically a blunch of Karens (autism moms and dads) whining about how hard they have it.

AS spends almost no money actually helping autistic people.

AS demonizes autism as some kind of horrible monster that ruins people's lives.

The focus on their research is working out how to pick up autism in the womb so that autistic people can be genocided.

>> No.15065609

>>15065606
>The focus on their research is working out how to pick up autism in the womb so that autistic people can be genocided.
Based. That would make 4chan a lot better.

>> No.15065616

>>15065609
> That would make 4chan a lot better.

If you take away the contributions of autistic people we would be back in the caves

> Isaac Newton

> Einstein

> Henry Ford

> Nicolai Tesla

> Elon Musk

>> No.15065618

>>15065616
What is it with mentally ill people trying to retroactively diagnose other people with the same illness they have?

>> No.15065621

>>15065618
It's not just mentally ill people
Plenty of normal people want to label historical figures as autistic or 'aspergers' because they act in a strange way

>> No.15065622

>>15065606
>The focus on their research is working out how to pick up autism in the womb so that autistic people can be genocided.
I've seen people make that claim quite often, yet never saw proof. Practically any advocacy group for any psychiatric condition funds studies into genetics but the latter tends to be done in paper mills. Expensive research and little return. It actually supports my claim that the organization itself had been hijacked early on by third parties to advance their own interests. A behavioral issue is never going to map one-to-one on genes

>> No.15065623

>>15065606
>AS demonizes autism as some kind of horrible monster that ruins people's lives.
Yes, yes it is

>> No.15065624

>>15065618
In all fairness, all those people have been diagnosed by psychiatrists and psychologists specialized in autism.

>> No.15065625

>>15065616
>>Isaac Newton
>> Einstein
>> Henry Ford
>> Nicolai Tesla
Lol no only Tesla comes close but he was just Croatian

>> No.15065626

>>15065622
Especially since there's strong evidence that autism is caused by environmental stressors in early childhood, e.g. some sort of toxin or infection.

>> No.15065628

>>15065624
I didn't know they had autism specialists in the 17th century.

>> No.15065631

>>15065626
No there isn't. It's epigenetic

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>>15065626
>environmental stressors in early childhood, e.g. some sort of toxin
Geeeee, what could it be??
Such a mystery why it is on the rise in recent decades.

>> No.15065635

>>15065631
>Epigenetics is the study of how your behaviors and environment can cause changes that affect the way your genes work.

>> No.15065636

>>15065634
Ever try disproving vaccines causing autism? Part of science is disproving your own theories to make sure there's no confirmation bias or false positives

>> No.15065637

>>15065626
>Especially since there's strong evidence that autism is caused by environmental stressors in early childhood
No, it's mostly genetic. It's really one of the few psychiatric diagnoses together with schizophrenia and ADHD where we can safely state that it is more genetic than anything else.
>>15065628
No, but given that a diagnosis of autism rests on behavioral traits, their retroactive diagnoses are really just as good and valid as any other autism diagnosis. How valid and good they are is of course debatable.

>> No.15065641

>>15065636
He's spamming that in every other thread. Ignore him. Another autistic cretin who's trapped in some obsessive autism circle.

>> No.15065642

>>15065636
>big pharma shill reeeeeeee and auti-talk.

>> No.15065644

>>15065641
It's kind of funny how hes also the same guy who posts about how we have a dangerous lead deficiency, but also that there's dangerous heavy metals in them vaccines

>> No.15065645

Honestly one thing I really fucking hate related to autism is how facilitated communication continuously pops up and is uncritically showed off in the media so that they can have a nice story

>> No.15065646

>>15065637
>No! No! not big pharma's fault! Don't look at that!
>It's poor genetics! Reeeeeeeeee
Interesting how most autism is among blacks and asians. Hmmmmmmmmmm

>> No.15065647

>>15065637
>No, it's mostly genetic. It's really one of the few psychiatric diagnoses together with schizophrenia and ADHD where we can safely state that it is more genetic than anything else.
No familial correlation with autism has ever been reported except that of advanced maternal age.

>> No.15065649

>>15065644
You are confusing your anons mr Big Pharma Shill.

>> No.15065651

>>15065644
Lead deficiency guy is different. He loves vaccines.

>> No.15065650

>>15065646
Same goes for lactose intolerance, what's your point?

>> No.15065652

>>15065647
Haven't they found correlations of autistic traits from parents to children?

>> No.15065653

>>15065645
Never made sense to me how people could look at Einstein and also look at some guy who's mentally functioning on the level of a toddler and claim that they both have the exact same thing. Of course, if your child turned out to be a perpetual toddler, I could understand the fear around what will happen with him in the future, but it's just malpractice and in some way incredibly insulting to insinuate that all those sperg kids are just like him.

>> No.15065654

>>15065652
The only serious large-scale study I know of showed that women who have children late in life have children with more birth defects including autism.

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>>15065647
>No familial correlation with autism has ever been reported except that of advanced maternal age.
Correct, which is due to evironmental toxins messing up the woman's eggs.
Those toxins............ additives in vaccines and other additives in processed foods, that collect in the ovaries.

>> No.15065657

>>15065653
Einstein didn't even have classical Asperger's symptoms either. He was incredibly social and did a lot of weird partying with elite physicists.

>> No.15065659

>>15065654
Autism isn't a birth defect. A birth defect would have to be physically identifiable. Autism is a developmental issue. And as far as I know, advanced maternal age rises probabilities by 10 to 20 % which would nominally increase autism odds from something like 2 % to 2.3 %.

>> No.15065660

>>15065657
I mean, he did have delayed speech and this on its own already very much suffices to get a child diagnosed with autism. Whether or not he had that autistic aloneness is another issue but then much of what now passes as non-verbal autism doesn't exhibit that autistic aloneness either.

>> No.15065662

>>15065657
Asperger's can be social too
Socially there are two types, the first is social and doesn't notice nor care if they miss social etiquette or misread people's signals whilst the other is non social out of fear of not being able to interpret the above

>> No.15065665

>>15065659
>increase autism odds from something like 2 % to 2.3 %.
Interesting. That % is about the same as sibling's copulating and reproducing offspring with an undesirable genetic anomaly.

>> No.15065667

>>15065662
>the first is social and doesn't notice nor care if they miss social etiquette
That the diagnosis of Asperger's is made dependent on misinterpreting social etiquette always appeared to me as gaslighting. The way it is phrased and defined makes it impossible for someone to escape that box. Who does not misread social situations at least some times? It has really become an unfalsifiable diagnosis.

>> No.15065669

>>15065665
I don't know where you got these numbers from. Siblings copulating with each other rise the odds of genetic anomalies by something like 800 %.

>> No.15065680

>>15065669
Nope, increase by less than 3%.
All humans are technically inbred, as any human that is not your parent/grandparents etc. or a sibling or aunt/uncle, is a "cousin".

All humans are genetically related. Gentics proved this in the late 1990s when proved the "mitochondrial eve" theory as we decoded the human genome.

>> No.15065683

>>15065667
>always appeared to me as gaslighting.
This is how they sell more pills and get more people into pscho-therapy, and get federal grant money for students, etc. etc.
Autism is a HUGE scam and grift. Very few people actually have it.

>> No.15065685

>>15065656
So why do women often only have one sperg? And especially if the sperg is their oldest?

>> No.15065690

>>15065685
Women often only have one child period.

>> No.15065691

>>15065685
The picture doesn't even relate in any way to the point he makes. It's about the use of lipid nanoparticles to deliver mRNA.

>> No.15065693

>>15065685
>And especially if the sperg is their oldest?
Takes time to build up toxins. You basically just agreed with the data the anon showed you, but are still confused?
How many women who have a sperg, continue to have children after it? Extrapolate more data and return.

>> No.15065695

>>15065693
>How many women who have a sperg, continue to have children after it?
Should not be too hard. Utah has the highest autism prevalence and the families there are notoriously large. Should not be too difficult to gather the data yourself. Of course, most likely it will return nothing and you will just have wasted time but oh well.

>> No.15065700

>>15065695
>wasted time
99.99999% of scientific research
get used to it.
but now you get to get some sweet government cheesefor your time, if you have the connections.

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>>15065477
>Only people who ever seem to hate on it are just normie shitlibs who think a woman can have a penis. Are there any real valid problems with them
The problem with leftists is that they are currently allowed to exist at all. That will change.

>> No.15065798

It seems like an advantage in some respects but is mostly a problem.

From reading things online, it seems like there is a module of people's minds that is dedicated to interpreting the thoughts and feelings of others, and that autistic people seem to have an under-activity of that module.

You can have an over activity of interpreting other people's thoughts and feelings. Paranoid schziophrenics are like that, where they constantly and excessively interpret hostile intent from those around them. Hallucinations are like interpreting agency and feelings in inanimate objects.

The midpoint on this spectrum is probably ideal, but being on either end has advantages too. Autistic people seem to be really good at science and intellectual inquiry, since they aren't biased by peer pressure of social desirability bias.

>> No.15065968

>>15065481
I have autism. It sucks enough that I fantasize every day about what my life would be like without it.

>> No.15066299

>>15065511
You just described a mental disorder. It is an abnormal conditions that causes distress and impairment.
Being sad for your wife's death isn't a disorder because it's culturally expected. Being autistic is abnormal and therefore a disorder.

>> No.15066304

>>15066299
Anon is mocking the OP's idea that it's just a personality type

>> No.15066311

>>15066304
Then again, that guy is kind of right too. Externalising mental disorders is retarded. They are a part of you in a way that somatic conditions are not.

>> No.15066312

>>15066299
>muh disorders are a social construct
Oversocialized drone. Being a normie is objectively a disorder and most people have severe mental illness. Being socially compliant is a type of schizophrenia.

>> No.15066383

>>15066312
You genuinely have no idea what you are talking about. Most of our current mental health diagnostic system was created 50–80 years ago for insurance purposes. They are irrelevant on individual level. Screeching about muh social constructs is flat out retarded.

>> No.15066386

>>15066383
Please tell me more about how what is or isn't a disorder depends on what the normaldrone collective deemds expected and acceptable.

>> No.15066498

>>15066386
Who else, you retard? You can make your own definitions but no one will care for as long as APA and WHO make the guidelines on who gets money and therapy and who goes into involuntary treatment. So yes, it is a social construct, and because your social value is zero, so is your constructs' total value.

>> No.15066500

>>15066498
Since you openly admit to being an oversocialized normaldrone whose reality is decided by bureaucrats and the engineered consensus of the nonsentient masses, why did you get mad about >>15066312?

>> No.15066546

>>15066500
I only get mad about buzzfeed-brained retards like you trying to downplay their retardation by medicalising it.
>I'm not weak, I swear alcoholism is a sickness
>I'm not a retard, it's autism, not me
>no, I'm not stupid, it adhd
back to >>>/reddit/

>> No.15066617

>>15065490
>autism deficiencies
Which ones? Autism is a mixed blessing, not all is bad.

>> No.15066630

>>15065529
What the fuck does autism have to do with tranny mental illness? You're just as much as an idiot like those people who always conflate crypto and tech with being right wing

>> No.15066922

>>15066299
>You just described a mental disorder. It is an abnormal conditions that causes distress and impairment.
So the whole psychiatric system rests on the principle of eugenics rather than relieving personal unhappiness and stress? I already knew that but it's always nice to get it from the horse's mouth.

>> No.15067023

>>15066630
>What the fuck does autism have to do with tranny mental illness?
The majority of trannies are autistic. They're comorbid diseases.

>> No.15067044 [DELETED] 

>>15066630
>What the fuck does autism have to do with tranny mental illness?
Read up about the subject you naive idiot. Blanchard is a moron but he got the autogynephilia/homosexuality dichotomy spot on.

>> No.15067082

>>15067023
>Things I don't like are mental illnesses
Also if we just force more mental health treatment, people would stop acting weird and we would surely not just feed big pharma.

>> No.15067125 [DELETED] 

>>15067082
>Thinking you were born in the wrong gender and hating your sex isn't mental illness

>> No.15067135

>>15067125
>Everything I don't like is a mental illness 2.0

>> No.15067149 [DELETED] 

>>15067135
How is hating your own reproductive system not mental illness?

>> No.15067154

>>15067149
You can dislike trannyism for reasons other than it being a 'mental illness'.

If things you dislike suddenly become mental illnesses, you become a cuck of the pharma-government complex which defines in the first place what a mental illness is. There's a reason homosexuality and transgenderism once were mental illnesses and now suddenly are not.

>> No.15067165 [DELETED] 

>>15067154
But I don't think it's a mental illness because I dislike it, but rather because I think it fits the definition of a mental illness.

>> No.15067183

>>15067154
>There's a reason homosexuality and transgenderism once were mental illnesses and now suddenly are not.
There's a reason why they once were mental illnesses (science) and now are not (politics). I prefer science to politics.

>> No.15067238

>>15066922
Read again. Distress is right there.

>> No.15067244

>>15067238
Distress might very well mean distress for others, including the welfare state. The idea that the 'mentally ill' necessarily suffer is a nice fantasy, but it is a fantasy after all.

>> No.15067245

>>15067244
Tell me about one mental illness which does not cause personal suffering.

>> No.15067274

>>15067245
It's not a criteria in any of the diagnoses afaik. And arguably, some diagnoses don't involve personal suffering at all including narcissism, anti-social behavior and learning disabilities.

>> No.15067288

>>15067154
>If things you dislike suddenly become mental illnesses, you become a cuck of the pharma-government complex which defines in the first place what a mental illness is. There's a reason homosexuality and transgenderism once were mental illnesses and now suddenly are not.

to a certain extent, this is a good point. labeling highly deviant, unbecoming behavior as a psychiatric disorder may seem appropriate but in fact it can be rather redundant and just another way for big pharma to get a hold of people, since they are the ones managing the whole diagnosis.

>> No.15067331

>>15067288
Yeah but drugging fags into not being fags is good, especially if they feel dead inside. Serves them right for choosing to be gay

>> No.15068245

>>15065481
>>15065490
>>15065511
>>15065519
>>15065575
>>15065584
>>15065606
>>15065609
>>15065616
>>15065618
>>15065621
>>15065623
>>15065641
Autists are normal, "neurotypical" people are retards who function without neocortex.
>>15065622
>>15065626
>>15065631
>>15065636
It's the lack of heavy metals that makes the neocortex stop working (that is, makes people "neurotypical") those are shared with the baby in the womb, older mothers are more likely to have enough to keep their baby healthy (autistic)
>>15065644
That isn't me.

>> No.15068252

>>15065616
>>15065625
>>15065653
>>15065657
>Einstein
Could we solve it (>>15068245) once for all if someone tested his brain for heavy metals?

>> No.15068505 [DELETED] 

>>15068245
>Autists are normal
By definition of "normal", autistic people are not normal.
I'm assuming you like to depict autistic people as intelligent and much smarter than normalfags. The real case is that autistic people are just as easily propagandized as normalfags. I know autistic people IRL who are woke LGBT vaccine militants.

>> No.15068539 [DELETED] 

>>15068505
Autists are normal even by definition of "normal". The appearance of the neorotypical is a recent and still largely geographically limited. Neurotypical people won't be able to stay civilized, or even any kind of functioning society.

>> No.15068544 [DELETED] 

>>15068505
Autists are normal even by definition of "normal". The appearance of the neorotypical is a recent and still largely geographically limited. Neurotypical people won't be able to stay civilized, or likely keep even any kind of functioning society.

>> No.15068548

>>15068505
Autists are normal even by definition of "normal". The appearance of the neorotypical is recent and still largely geographically limited. Neurotypical people won't be able to stay civilized, or likely even keep any kind of functioning society.

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So what would the world be like if the majority of the population were autistic? Easy mode: high end autism / Asperger's only.

>> No.15068974

>>15067274
It is though. Personal distress is in all mental health diagnoses, you fucking retard.
t. medfag

>> No.15069284

>>15068548
lol schizo

>> No.15069299

>>15065625
Dirac was the true autistic physicist anyways

>> No.15069319

>>15065477
>Only people who ever seem to hate on it are just normie shitlibs who think a woman can have a penis.
No, critics are autistics skeptical of a "nonprofit" that is nothing but a grift that appeals to lazy Karen moms of autistic kids who expect the world to bleed for mom's plight and fuck how the kid feels, fuck actually relieving the kid's symptoms and helping them - just brainwash them into aping normie NPC behaviors simply to appease neurotypical feelz.

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>>15065490
>I hear ABA is hated by faggots who spoil their sperg children
ABA is trash adopted from methods used for gay conversion therapy, i.e. an ineffective cash grab. Same theories used at the Judge Rotenberg Center, where they imprison autistics and keep them in shock harnesses, more powerful than a cattle prod that leave burn marks, 24/7. Guy literally named ((((Israel)))) modeled Rotenberg, named for a (((judge))) that kept the hellhole open, after a "utopian" behaviorist colony based on total control and Rotenberg became Israel's private little dystopian Hell where he could do whatever he wants to the inmates. That's the background of ABA.

>> No.15069345

>>15069340
>ABA is trash adopted from methods used for gay conversion therapy, i.e. an ineffective cash grab.
Gay conversion therapy is only banned because it works. That was the legal justification.

>> No.15069377

>>15069345
Maybe it seems to "work" with homos because there is no biological basis for their behavior, contra the woke party line, and hence it's relatively simple to brainwash the gay of of them. Autism is a different neurotype, only thing ABA accomplishes is behaviorist conditioning to make them act against their own wiring like a trained animal to appease normies, doing zilch for sensory issues and, indeed, just aggravating such symptoms by denying coping mechanisms like "stimming", again simply because a kid flapping their arms or shit offends the normie.

>> No.15069503

>>15069377
I don't think there's much proof of something like an autistic neurotype.

Surely, if there is one, we wouldn't test autism by means of an ever more vague and open behavioral test. Doesn't refute your point however that autism like many other mental disorders is a disorder because it makes 'normies' feel uncomfortable.

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So I have a colleague I get on well with (nothing romantic, just good chemistry). She ticks off all boxes but also complained to me that she doesn't understand people and people don't understand her. She is unhappy about the situation. Seems I can talk to her, then again I am able to get into contact with all kind sof people.
She does not have a diagnosis. She is emplooyed and is WFH for about 3 years and her colleagues have hardly seen her.
Should I tell her to see a doctor?

>> No.15069725 [DELETED] 

>>15069673
What is she going to gain from a diagnosis? Most likely nothing.

And telling someone that she must have a mental disorder (and obviously the same one that you have) because she's quirky and introverted can and most likely will backfire horribly. Autism is a diagnosis that should be reserved for the learning disabled idiot kids who really need the services. The diagnosis at it stands today is completely devoid of any meaning.

>> No.15069738

>>15069673
Being quirky and introverted isn't a mental disorder. Autism as it stands today already is over-diagnosed and trivialized.

>> No.15070043

>>15069503
>Doesn't refute your point however that autism like many other mental disorders is a disorder because it makes 'normies' feel uncomfortable.
Oh yeah, having emotional breakdowns when something goes wrong and my schedule is interrupted TOTALLY doesn't meet any qualifications for disorder based on how I feel

>> No.15070124

>>15065637
>No, but given that a diagnosis of autism rests on behavioral traits, their retroactive diagnoses are really just as good and valid as any other autism diagnosis.

>Diagnosis through 100-300 year old writings which capture a small percentage of a person's life is the same as observation of someone's actual behavior in a live setting

Retard tier response.

>> No.15070346

>>15068505
I am borderline autistic and never tested, never vaccinated and never masked. I am very against this system which is fucked.

However, you're right about woke 'autists'. They're actually bunch of attention whores who aren't actually autist.

>> No.15070619

>>15069738
>quirky and introverted
There is a lot more to it than that.

>> No.15070790 [DELETED] 

>>15070346
>borderline autistic
That isn't a diagnosis

>> No.15071395

>>15070043
> having emotional breakdowns when something goes wrong and my schedule is interrupted TOTALLY doesn't meet any qualifications for disorder based on how I feel
Are you retarded? If no, you can stop those emotional breakdowns and also stop being a cry-baby. You're using the autism diagnosis to justify your toddler-tier tantrums because they just happen to be convenient.
>>15070124
>of a person's life is the same as observation of someone's actual behavior in a live setting
Oy vey. I'm sure, those professionals are definitely not counting every little thing as autism to artifically inflate autism numbers and get more customers, I mean poor patients :> for their hospital/clinic/special school. Observing behavior, then postulating that X suffers from brain disorder Y isn't really science either.

>> No.15071398

>>15070619
Well yes. Considering that now practically anything counts as a symptom of autism, there really is a lot more to it. Also apparently both severe mental retardation and giftedness, also down syndrome.

>> No.15071536

ITT: Autism Speak social media agents in-fighting

>> No.15072640

>>15071536
Based?

>> No.15072862

>>15071398
>practically anything counts as a symptom of autism
I know, I have been asked several times if I have a diagnosis (yet).
In the case of my colleague, there is a lot more, such as not being able to be touched.

>> No.15073869

We had an attempt of making an Autism / Asperger General, what happened to that?

>> No.15073873

>>15072862
>In the case of my colleague, there is a lot more, such as not being able to be touched.
You're in your 20s and you have an imaginary friend. No wonder they think you're autistic.

>> No.15073891

>>15073873
I have few friends, but thankfully the ones I have are all real.

>> No.15073894

>>15073891
Except for the one that is not able to be touched.

>> No.15073914

>>15073894
Oh, she is real too, just a little troubled.

>> No.15074888

>>15073914
Fuck her ass

>> No.15074890

>>15073869
>what happened to that?
Probably because 'autism' isn't science and just a made-up boogeymen to explain why society rejects some people and not others.

>> No.15074898

>>15066617
This. Most enlightened people are autistic. Our disregard for social conformity means we're less likely to be NPCs.

>> No.15074924

>>15073914
the guy probably tried to sexually molest her. Didn't work out so now he claims that she just can't be touched and that this must be 'auTiSm TM'

>> No.15074942

>>15068245
I agree with this

>> No.15075115

>>15074888
Without being in contact with her body?

>> No.15075267

>>15074898
>>15068810

>> No.15076894

>>15074890
Who casres about society at øarge when there are several lines of work where people on the spectrum can be gainfully employed and lead a good life?

>> No.15076914

>>15076894
I don't believe in the idea of autism nor the magical notion of a spectrum that encompasses both downies and Einstein. It's an unfalsifiable diagnosis.

>> No.15076928

>>15065477
>omg anons I'm so heckin different and special from those NOTMIES, I have le heckin autismerino

>> No.15076977

>>15076914
>downies
That is a chromosome issue. Are you 18?

>> No.15077004

>>15076977
Does it matter?
>It's a family of brain disorders, that's why it's a spectrum.
So again. An unfalsifiable statement.