/sci/ - Science & Math

tilebros how are we holdin up?

>>15057027
Oh girl you nasty

assassination coordinates

https://twitter.com/innospacecorp/status/1603585663823400960
>Countdown Begins! INNOSPACE Launch Date of HANBIT-TLV Set December 19th 6 am (Brasilia Time) from the Alcântara Space Center in Brazil.
>Live streaming – due to limited network access on a military base, it won’t be possible unfortunately. Our team is preparing for recording.
Bruhzil moment

>>15057034
converting into methane sweatchads as we speak

Elon mocked Democrat for being attack, now they go after his family and he cries like a baby, karma.

>>15057058
He's humiliating journocucks and regime capos on twitter by restricting their access to free dopamine. They're the only ones going insane.

>>15057034
I'm almost beginning to wonder if hosing it down with ablatives before every launch could be an option.

this shit better launch next year

>>15057091
amazing

>>15057092
More than once.

noaa has a bigger space program than most countries

>>15057034
Well. But, alas, my genius languishes.

>>15057083
Maybe some kind of epoxy idk

>>15057034
The future is thin outer niobium/titanium alloy plate over mesh ceramic thread insulator layer tiles.
3,000°C resistance
The mass hit is worth it for one-and-done tiles that are installed and never have to be worried about again

>>15057027
EARTHER (critically endangered)

>15057136
This forced meme will fail

>>15057136
>>15057144
Ever since the other versions of that got made I've liked to imagine that the different girls argue with each other over it.

>>15057136

>>15057146
It's probably the same person making them all. Just report and filter.

>>15057148
>Noooo stop having fun it's just one person samefagging

>>15057147

>>15057091
KEK

>>15057150
>get this one bro, you'll die laughing! lol, today I saw someone make a shitty meme that said "SpaceX will fail", well I changed it to "SpaceX will succeed! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XDDDDDDDDD~~~~~11111!!!!!

>>15057012
Brazil has space capability? I knew they had a nuke plant, but didn't know they were that capable.

>>15057091
>S24 flight in 2022
Doubters btfo

>>15057091
I'll be seeing you!

>>15057091
First meaningful OC in like 2 year lol

>>15057166
wrong>>15057147

>>15057155
It's some South Korean rocket actually. Brazil has a fucking backwards space program that never went anywhere despite being older than the Chinese one. Alcântara is a piece of shit of a space port despite being in the perfect position.

>>15057148
ackchyually I'm a different anon, I have no idea who posts the fail pic

>>15057091
very good

>>15057101
neat idea

>>15057091
fucking kek

>>15057091
You won sfg, it's over now

Should I wake up early to watch SWOT?

>>15057273
I usually prefer day time launches, but if you are tired or have something important tomorrow, don't screw your sleep for a common launch.

sfg is torpid

>>15057318
space flight is torpid

>>15057318
sfg will start bussin when starship flies in Q2 2022

>>15057318
im fucked up rifht nows

New Isaac Arthur video dropped, I figured you guys would like it as it focuses on Martian farming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhoQMJN0z-Q

>>15057359
The video isn't bad and I wish I could not be a jerk, but is there anyone making realistic speculation about Mars? I don't see any of that tech being developed during this century even in the best case scenario.

Model of possible early development concept for Lunar Cruiser.

>>15057391
Are they going to be using EVA suits inside this or will it be pressurized?

I’m going to Iraq to visit family and book recommendations for the plane flight? I’ve read a lot of Zubrin’s books and his style is kind of like the sound of grating nails on chalkboard after a while

>>15057391
JAXA + Toyota rover is old news

>>15057398
It'll be pressurized inside so suits won't be necessary, though I don't know whether or not it will have suit ports (I suppose that would depend on the design of the suit Axiom eventually cooks up for Artemis).

Where is the stream for the SWOT launch?

Oh god I spent too long jerking off to Abigail Shapiro SWOT launches in 2 hours and I haven’t slept yet it’s almost 5AM here

>>15057027
They couldn't even get it off the stand. Pathetic.

>>15057426
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maI09QHicTg

70 min

>>15057433
Oh, it's not on the SpaceX channel.

>>15057434
https://nextspaceflight.com/

>>15057436
God damn, I wish I knew about this site earlier. I spent so much time making that launch chart some time ago.

Official/sfg/ song:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xNB9r3oT14M

why not just use wikipedia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight_launches_in_July%E2%80%93December_2022

>>15057505
It was actually a probe launch schedule plus probe milestones, I don't really care about common satellites.

>>15057505
>TiSPACE, officially Taiwan Innovative Space Inc. (Chinese: 台灣晉陞太空股份有限公司), is a space launch company from Taiwan.
>Its sister company, ATSpace, is headquartered in South Australia.
>Australian flag on the list
wtf how is this allowed?

>>15057529
oh, you're one of *those* "people"

>>15057532
yeah I'm a probe autist more than a rocket autist

Ooh vandy rtls

>>15057538
There’s no spaceX steam tho, we may not get the landing footage

>check r/space
>lots of anti mars threads and posting
even the casuals are turning against spaceflight. turns out the great filter is idiots.

Stage 1 LOX load complete
strongback retract
Go for SWOT launch
Stage 1 LOX load complete

LANDING ON PAD HELL YEAH

>>15057034
yeah I'm converted to ablative blanked

is this the first of the tandem launches?

Max Cute
MECO
Stage Sep
MVac ignition
Fairing sep

>>15057577
Stage 1 returning to launch site

Kino I love RTLS

>>15057576

damn another orbital rocket booster has been recovered

>>15057581

>>15057579
NASA stream way behind the mission audio for me

>>15057584

I know the astronauts hated it for inaccuracies but goddamn if The Right Stuff ain't the best space movie to date

oof turns out r/space mods are anti mars. deleting threads supporting mars colonization while leaving anti mars colonization threads up. what a cancerous website.

>>15057562
>>15057602
Honestly shit. I remember not long ago r/space managed to actually be a somewhat decent sub, the only real problem was the spam of generic space news websites. When NASA rejected changing the name of JWST because of the gay bullshit, that sub was mostly approving the decision.

>>15057602
huge faggot mods being activists instead of just running a space subreddit

Elon like Mars
--> Reddit don't like Mars

I first discovered Elon on an AMA on leddit. Looking back at it now its amazing to see how much the website and its attitudes has changed
>https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2rgsan/i_am_elon_musk_ceocto_of_a_rocket_company_ama/

After the recent incident should Soyuz be banned from the ISS? Russians can still ride on Crew Dragon

>>15057614
>mmod damage
Would have happened too with dragon

And with Soyuz you know the capsule (with cargo) will always renter and land no matter what happens to it

>>15057611
Elon likes to breathe air
--> Leftists stops breathing air

LET THIS HAPPEN

>>15057612
>spacel outs himself as a redditor

>>15057637
even if leftists or niggers or whoever didn't exist you'd still never go to space

when was Elon's last public appearance? I think now is a good time to do a Joe Rogan

>>15057646
dave chappelle the other day when he got booed by like 20k people. the twitter banwave began soon after.

>>15057611
>Europa better for colonization than Mars
Why on hell nobody knows about the radiation belts? Europa won't ever get landed by humans in this millennium. Callisto is the real candidate for Jovian colonization but nobody ever remembers it.

>>15057648
Sorry but that's too far away. Traveling 6 months to Mars is more than enough

>>15057638
Old Reddit used to be cool

Home

>>15057602
What do they have against Mars colonization? I dun geddit

>>15057651
That's why I said Jovian colonization. Of course Mars is the best option, and you can make some case for the Moon and Ceres, but Callisto is the first good option in the outer solar system.

>>15057652
no it didn't, redditor

ME ANGRY
ME SEE COMMENT OF PERSON SAYING WE SHOULD HELP EARTH FIRST BEFORE SPACE
ME BECOME ENRAGED
GRUG WANTS TO BONK COMMENTERS HEAD WITH BIG STICK

why does those kind of comments make me feel that way?

>>15057654
I don't like sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.

SWOT deploy

>>15057648
callisto will definitely be the next big place after the moon and mars. unless for some reason we decide ceres is better...

>>15057655
been to reddit lately? most people there have elon derangement syndrome. even posters on the spacex reddits hate elon.

>>15057659
because you're a deluded incel who thinks star wars is real

>>15057661
Yeah I read a recent article by NASA that said they were looking at sites with less sand. They would also like a site at lower altitude so the air density is higher and a site that closer to one of the poles for the availability of water

>>15057666
Anti mars enthuisiasts confirmed to be evil

Colonisation beyond Mars will only happen with GMO human anyway

>>15057664
>unless for some reason we decide ceres is better
It is closer, so some country will definitely want to go there for the sake of getting firsts (first human on a dwarf planets, perhaps first human on a main belt asteroid)

>>15057664
Man people are so weird. One side was first obsessed with George Soros, then it switched to Klaus Schwab. The other side was obsessed with Trump, and then it switched to Musk. I still don't get why people suddenly hate him so much, because he bought Twitter?

there are two major problems with a Europa ocean mission.
1.Getting a submarine down there
2. Communicating with the submarine

>>15057667
just land here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korolev_(Martian_crater)

>>15057676
3. getting the mission approved because of the fear of contaminating the ocean despite the probe spending years in deep space barely protected against radiation.

Elon will land on Mars on February 30 next year. Cap this post.

>>15057648
Callisto at least has rocks on the surface that contain metals, Europan rocks are inaccesible. Not being too deep in Jupiter's gravity well is also a big plus

>>15057684
>Europan rocks are inaccesible
those are enriching the ocean with various chemicals

>>15057684
why does space attract the biggest dunning kruger knowitall midwits?

>low radiation (for a space rock)
>lots of resources
>bigger than the moon (luna)
>the gateway to the jovian system
>awesome view
callisto is going to be great

>>15057688
educate me then

>>15057689
I want so much for a lander on Callisto to happen during my lifetime. Imagine how kino it will be the landscape with Jupiter and the other moons in the background.

>>15057694
I know that I know nothing

>>15057699
Go make some hemlock lean

>>15057697
It will just be a landscape of white rocks and some darker meteorite smudges. Also the decadal recommended a Callisto orbilander. Titan is the real bizzare landscape haver of the solar system

>>15057027
So when's your starship flying into orbit, /sci/? Kek

>>15057706
> orange murk means you can't see shit
> dense atmosphere at cryogen temperatures means heat getting sucked out of you at phenomenal rates
> orbits in the ring plane, can't see their glory
Titan is shit

>>15057706
I love moonscapes, so that's a win for me. I love Titan too but we can have more than one goal.

>>15057716
It sucks none or the Saturn moon beside Titan have liveable gravity

>>15057706
>orbilander
please dont let this word catch on

>>15057724
orlander

>>15057611
https://planetocracy.substack.com/p/objections-to-mars-colonisation
Someone post this at them.

>>15057723
No major populations will ever live there, just workers shipping volatiles to the inner system and tourists visiting the rings

Humans will be a one planet civilization and there is nothing you can do to change that

We need a lunar base ASAP

>>15057748

>>15057748
Humans will be a planet-less species

https://spacenews.com/maxar-technologies-acquired-by-private-equity-firm-in-6-4-billion-deal/
didn't expect that

Electron/curie more like cutie

>>15057155
They were close to launching their first satellite in the early 2000s but one rocket blew up and killed a lot of their top rocket scientists, and that was a major set back for their space program

>>15057773
it's over

>>15057614
Nope. I don't think anything significant is going ta happen, just like nothing significant happened after the recent Soyuz launch abort, the hole incident and Nauka's docking.

Russia are major ISS partners, and applying sanctions to them could make them ragequit, and that would cripple the station badly. So they get away with every fuckups

>>15057662
Watch the SpaceX stream you retarded weeb monkey

When is Firefly flying again?

>>15057787
That God we're finally dumping that garbage by 2030.

>>15057788
It's a NASA stream. There's no winning here.

>>15057788
>anon who calls someone retarded is himself a retard
There was no sx stream

I hope Russia tries making a Mir 2. It would be hilarious.

>>15057787
is it known how that hole came to be?

I was wondering about what kind of one-piece telescopes could be launched with Starship. First I thought of making something Hubble-shaped with the lens going along the shape of the diameter, but that would limit the lens size to 9 meters. Then I thought about picrel (brought to you by paint.net), a slit-shaped telescope that could reach around 17 meter tall lens. Would this be feasible?

>>15057801
They already did it, it’s called the Russian half of the ISS

>>15057801
>Mir2_final_version_v3_truefinal.pptx
That'll be 65 billion rubles, plus tip :^)

>>15057773
That’s an expensive acquisition. Hope they don’t shit it up

>it is now over 30 degrees in Soyuz

>>15057678
Korolev was also my first pick.

A narrow canyon however would be pretty helpful for avoiding most radiation without needing to dig

They will just cool it with fans

>>15057806
Sure, although if you dropped the single-piece requirement you could a lot more mirror in that fairing

>>15057831
The whole point of my proposal is to make giant space telescopes cheap. I like JWST but we need cheaper and more varied stuff. If I could pay for something like this, I'd like something capable of directing imaging the nearest exoplanets + spectrography.

>>15057773
>Under the deal announced Dec. 16, Advent is acquiring all outstanding shares of Maxar common stock for $53.00 per share in cash, more than double Maxar’s stock price of $23.
A fair offering considering its price history and there's a two month period for Maxar to try to shop around for a better deal. Truthfully I never liked Worldview Legion compared to the constellations of BlackSky or even Planet which uses Maxar built sats which aren't too far off the resolution limit set by the government yet cheaper and easier to spam for better revisit rates and the eventual real-time monitoring of every location on Earth.

>>15057823
they can depress it, or jettison it if the situation deteriorates.

Are there any external pics of the spacecraft? Can they get there with canadarm?

>>15057847
They were using ESA's knockoff Canadarm but I think they had to relocate for a better view.

>>15057847
There’s ERA (european robotic arm) on Nauka; they’ve been using it to take a look.
It’s funny because ESA threatened to deactivate this arm at the start of [off topic current event in ukraine], and Rogozin threatened to not allow access to the arm as well

>>15057855
Nauka knows it’s dead, it’s even giving the roman salute

>>15057855

>>15057091
I chuckled heartily

>>15057861
>>15057864
kek

>>15057640
Why would anyone leave paradise?

>>15057878
If we have Earth woke we will have space woke. Escaping into space isn't a solution to the degeneracy problem we're facing

>>15057674
He's rich (enviable), powerful (scary), famous (visible) and actively opposed to what they see as justice (evil).

You should expect him to become a bigger target as any of those factors increases. Then account for the fact that seething against him makes him more visible and you have positive feedback.

>>15057888
why do "right wing" incels defend billionaires for free?

>>15057890

>>15057890
For the same reason "left wing" incels defend millionaires for free.

>>15057890
"temporarily embarrassed millionaires"

>>15057893
the average space enthusiast

>>15057688
It's difficult to become an expert.

>>15057802
a hole made the hole (the first hole was also made by a hole, and so on)

>>15057664
>even posters on the spacex reddits hate elon.
Classic spacex/muskstans trying not to act as spacex/muskstans because reasons (?). Maybe they inhibit themselves because they think it's just politically incorrect or something to say something nice about Musk without the obligatory "I don't personally like Elon, but...", or just afraid of being downvoted and having their opinions invalidated. It could even be because they feel the need to be moderate and consider both sides of every single argument, even if one side is completely retarded. "The truth is somewhere in the middle" not always true.

This painting was on one of the original publications of GURPS. The artist of this piece, Alan Gutierrez additionally did covers for Popular Mechanics. You can find more of his work on his DeviantArt page, I'd reccomend it as it has a lot of really neat science fiction art published in the 80s and later, directly from the source.

>>15057734
Just cut out the middleman and live in rotating habitats closer to the gas giants

>>15057749
Can't wait to see that thing scorch Pandora.

>>15057905
It was an incredibly cool scene
I love that someone genuinely did the math for that vehicle

>>15057884
>>15057878
Perhaps it was unclear. In the hypothetical scenario in which there are no earth woke and none of their pets, why would anyone leave Earth? Could the lure of adventure or a sense of duty compete with paradise on Earth?

>>15057664
No. Why should I care what retards on reddit think?

>>15057806
There's not really a lot of point making it so large. There is simplicity in a true monolithic mirror, but even if a 17 meter fit it couldn't made of a single mirror segment. So it would have to be segmented. In general wierd shaped mirrors are very difficult to figure and polish.

Here's Gutierrez's updated version of>>15057905, location of his art linked below. There's a nice mix of pulp, fantasy and that old science foction aesthetic I can't properly put a name to.


https://www.deviantart.com/alangutierrezart

>>15057905
>rotating habitats
rotating habitats don't have "gravity" midwit

>>15057674
He exposed the hunter Biden story suppression, now will go after COVID story suppression. Journos and tech social medias colluded to spin a political narrative. That's why the leftist journos ar seething endlessly about Musk

>>15057890
It wasn't a defense at all, just an attempt to answer the question. How do you answer a question about someone's motivation without mentioning the beliefs and feelings that motivate them?

>>15057909
Becaues it's there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6-pxKOnvyo

>>15057919
Alright meanie, the point is to simulate gravity, how pedantic do you want to get?

>>15057919
>drop thing, thing falls
it just werks

>>15057890
Commie losers hate winners in life.
Capitalist celebrate winners.

>>15057928
>muh oneill cylinder sóy-fi bullshit
rotating habitats don't have simulated gravity which is perfectly logical if you think about it for more than 10 seconds

>>15057930
Geo Hotz?

>>15057581
SWOSWOSWOSWOSWOSWO

>>15057936
How will sucking off rich kikes improve your life, NPC?

>>15057938
I am aware that it's a facsimile, thus is not a gravity well, but you're a moron not to see that the entire purpose is to simulate gravity.

>>15057947
you're a moron if you can't see that you can't simulate gravity by rotating an object in space

>>15057950
Prove it

>>15057941
more iphones

>>15057953
the burden on proof isn't on me
but just to dunk on you
the ISS doesn't rotate

>>15057950
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_gravity
I must assume you are baiting, but if you are not, I refer to the above page for enlightenment.

>>15057953
I mean, it's obvious to anyone who knows basic high school physics, but if you want a practical example:
https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/experiment-artificial-gravity-kosmos-936/nasm_A19790836000

>>15057962
>wikipedia
please kill yourself

>>15057962
>it real because it say so on wikipedia
alright cuckie where's the oneill cylinders

>>15057941
Take that cock out of your brain for a second.

>>15057958
>the ISS doesn't rotate
And there's no gravity inside it.
>>15057963
>I mean, it's obvious
So's flat earth, that doesn't make it true though

>>15057950
Ok

>>15057967
>>15057968

>>15057973
take that cock out of your mouth for a second

>>15057976
centrifuges aren't rotating habitats and also they don't generate gravity outwards

>>15057974
it would rotate if it generated gravity
also the earth is flat

>>15057987
That's about what I figured.

>>15057988
>tranime picture
you will never go to space

>>15057988
cute girls

>new sfg thread ends up on page 1
>immediately flooded with retards
Many such cases. Sad!

>>15057996
it's a retard general for retards

>>15057992
Anime website.

>>15057996
Reddit crossboaders needs to be purged

Now that we're done laughing at the faggot, how's MS22 going? Has there been any news on the coolant that sprayed out, like has any stuck to the rest of the station? Was this the curse of Nauka yet again?

Fuck space. This is the real future on earth.

>>15058006
The future is brick

>>15057905
>>15057915
Nice, thanks anon

>>15058006
Hey at least that one can't be taken out by a buzzed driver, we lost like 4 mailboxes over my childhood on the old county road I grew up on. A mailbox like this would've fixed that problem real quick kek.
>>15058013
ENEMY SPACETIME MINES!
I don't know if I've seen Crest/Banner of the Stars posted here before, nice taste anon.

>>15058006
God I hate 90%+ of the people on this planet.

>>15058018
This kid is more productive than you

>wow this is great, my flight can be extended!
>“oh, hello ground station. I see some wonderful thunderstorms down below!”
>forgot that ‘thunderstorm’ is a code word for “I feel sick as fuck, I need to come home”
>forced to land early
www.russianspaceweb.com/vostok3.html
Also the hilarious soviet drama and infighting

>Elon Musk uses the Tesla YouTube account as his personal account too
>Subscribed to random video game, touhou and anime channels
https://www.youtube.com/@Tesla-Prize/channels
I'm genuinely baffled as to how this man is the richest. This cunt has sent rockets to space whilst simultaneously shitposting about tohou. Can't tell if he's smart, retarded or both.

>>15058055
Fuck off with the stupid scam channels

>>15058055
There's a prince of Saudi Arabia who's a huge weeb. Funded an anime throuh Netflix. Any others?

>>15057611
People are fucking retarded. The distance between Mars and Jupiter is further than the distance from Earth to Mars. Insanity.

>>15058076
anything to *hurt* elon

3 launches left

>>15058092
looks like bacon crumbles on ham

>>15058097
Sounds tasty

>>15057602
That's fucked up

maxar sold out, they're going private
https://spacenews.com/maxar-technologies-acquired-by-private-equity-firm-in-6-4-billion-deal/

>>15058111
The news was already broken anon

>>15058092
>transporter 6 delayed to january
it's over

>>15057405
Maybe that new Andy Weir book dunno if it's good though haven't read

>>15058164
Irrelevant

Any news about the MS22 situation? Damn shame because Soyuz is badass

>elon gets removed
does spacex continue to mars?

>>15058189
>monkeys come out of my ass
does my butt continue to poop?

>>15058189
If SpaceX never makes it to Mars, it won't be because of Elon leaving

>>15058189
~75% of voting remains with Musk. Who will remove Musk?

So when's your starship flying into orbit, /sci/? Lmao

blue mars?

>>15058202
>"suicide" / hunting "accident"
>assassination
>prison for incorrect politics
>far left government forces him out
>spacex gets nationalized

>>15058202
I dunno. Surely there are some tools for the feds to take control of a critical defense company "gone rogue".

>>15058215
I can think of plenty of more legitimate reasons for why Biden has "gone rogue" and needs to be removed from office than Musk being removed.

>>15058188
No news. Speculation of mmod strike.

>>15058017
My parents had a place in the city in front of a busy road. They had a large metal gate attached to a brick column similar to the one pictured, for security reasons. We lost a number of them to drunk drivers too that needed to be replaced (cars got trashed though).

>>15057612
fun read

>>15058210
It's some kind of blue rock.

t. geologist

>>15058006
weird thing to get mad at
that's at cool mailbox

Timbros we are all big brained
https://twitter.com/erdayastronaut/status/1603490642180595717

>>15058286
what's next for tim after dear moon?

>>15058286
This dumbfuck doesn't know the first thing about engineering.

>>15058265
source? I made it the fuck up

>s26 is the first tanker starship
progress...

>>15058286
Bet Elon cringes reading these

are they still planning the tandem launches?

>>15058369
No

I like how now Nitter doesn't work

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/12/nasa-official-very-confident-artemis-spacesuits-will-be-ready-on-time/

this only leave one possible element of Artemis III to become the bottleneck

>>15058389
Just find an instance that is good. nitter.ca used to be but now offline

>>15058373
how come

>>15058394
...the forbidden aquatic substance from Alabama?

>>15058396
thanks. .cz seems to be working well

>>15058362
What are the chances they do first propellant transfer at Starbase?

>>15058394
Just like they were confident with Artemis I launch date(s)?

roggs

>>15058457
these are coming back

visitor here. how long until I can visit mars city on vacation?

>>15058394
Actual humand landings are still years off. Don't they need to put a station in lunar orbit first? And have a reliable and reusable vehicle for landing?

>>15058474
60 years

>>15058475
>Don't they need to put a station in lunar orbit first?
the gave up on the station, called Gateway, for the first human lunar landing

Damn, maybe Scott isn't so bad after all...

>>15058475
>Don't they need to put a station in lunar orbit first?
No
>>15058475
>And have a reliable and reusable vehicle for landing?
Yes that (Starship) is going to be the bottleneck.

>>15058480
Lame. Hope they don't postpone it too much because just putting people on the moon BECAUSE isn't very exciting today.

>>15058485
The Gateway is not a reason to put people on the moon.
A good reason is to build a research base on the moon.
That is not facilitated by Gateway.

>>15058485
This time they will be doing it with a Huge lander. And they'll be able to stay for many days. Starship is revolutionary

>>15058485
>>15058493
It pisses me off that NASA is willing to go 90% of the way to do research on the moon but stop before accomplishing anything worthwhile. THOSE costs are fine, but building a giant radio telescope on the far side of the moon is "too expensive"

>>15058495
hate the wrinkles on those Chimes

No one will be able to sleep on Gateway because of the cosmic rays passing through their eyeballs making Cherenkov flashes

>>15058499
>giant radio telescope on the far side of the moon
weak science case

>Now targeting 5:48 p.m. ET for Falcon 9's launch of the @SES_Satellites O3b mPOWER mission
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1603868454066393088
IT KEEPS DELAYING

Holy shit 2022 was the day of reckoning for Atlas V. So many variants got retired this year

A manned staging area in NRHO is nonsensical.
A radio relay is fine and constitutes a 10 million dollar satellite.

>>15058509
The moon station will replace the ISS

>>15058509
>A radio relay is fine and constitutes a 10 million dollar satellite.
let's be honest here, a honest radio relay would cost at least 70 million. Capstone was 15 million and it spun out of control

>>15058516
the lunar base will replace the ISS hopefully

>>15058499
Telescopes on the moon will come when we have enough people on the moon to assemble them.

>>15058503
The science case is pretty good actually, and it's more science than we're getting out of the rest of the Artemis program by a long shot.
I can't post the link because this site is run by retards, just read the nature article if you want to learn something.

>>15058524
You still need microgravity labs, though.

>>15058533
There will be commercial labs in LEO by then.

>>15058537
Not glowie certified.

>>15058480
What? I think they still plan on having some gateway components already launched by the time of artemis 3. They need a place to stage Orion

Bros, Elon’s jet data shows he went to Epstein island

>>15058482
That vid on the soyuz leak was surprisingly not full of ”le soyuz bad” as I expected
He actually addressed the location and potential implications of the leak. This might actually be the first time that a manned capsule has been struck by MMOD

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/two-exoplanets-may-be-mostly-water-nasas-hubble-and-spitzer-find

The Russian spy sat launch on an Angara 1.2 on October 15 burnt up today.

>>15058540
Don't trust the lefty posts. Especially from one that.self professes "democrat at any cost". They practice taqiyya.

>>15058540
Ok anon, please tell me where the runway might be cause I can't see it.

>>15058552
Are you Muslim too?
Anyways, I’m gonna be honest, I wish Elon just focused on mars. Maybe I’m wrong but he is bringing way too much attention to himself with this retarded Twitter purchase

>>15058549
Very interesting. I hope they file a JWST proposal

>>15058539
>They need a place to stage Orion
No the plan is to dock directly to HLS.

>>15058215
Yeah, there are some World War II leftovers that allow the government to force companies to do what it wants

Last used for masks, I think

>>15058539
SS will locate Orion and berth to it

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1603872233923182592
Aeon R test stand being built

>>15058549
Would a water planet be too useful for human colonization? I feel like it would be far too difficult to establish a colonization on non-solid ground

>>15058548
>surprisingly not full of ”le soyuz bad” as I expected
Scott is a russophobe purely in your head.
Touch grass

>>15058570
God this will be so hilarious

>218 light-years away in the constellation Lyra
Manned mission when?

>>15058575
Is anyone in the space industry even a russophobe (within the context of spaceflight) lol?

>>15058574
>non-solid ground
This one is apparently more like a Venus on steroids with superheated and supercritical water instead of just CO2

>>15058548
>Berger posted an interview about space debris impacting human spaceflight like a day beforehand
Rogozin was right

>>15058580
I think excluding current events people are pissed about the hole drilling accusation. I think that was more just limited to Rogozin, but that was a very significant event because roscosmos, as a corporation, didn’t flat out deny this story at first. I think overall people within the field/hobby/whatever like soyuz and progress and stuff and aren’t russophobes.
What about China?
I

>>15058588
It’s not that people dislike Soyuz, it’s that they hate how Roscosmos always causes trouble. I don’t think anyone in spaceflight is actually a Russophobe with regards to spacecraft.

Viper testing
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/from-designing-to-building

>>15058580
I know of one

The soundtrack should be Velvet Underground, Steely Dan and John Cale songs not modern crap

>>15058509
I think one purpose for Gateway is to extend Orion's longevity in lunar orbit. Once again, Orion is probably the biggest bottleneck in Artemis for mission duration/payload/crew size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WAQD83ElZY

OFFICIAL SPACEX STREAM LIVE

>>15058575
Anon plz no mean. I just meant as in Scott calling the relibility of Soyuz into question, even though the leak was caused by an out-of-control event

>>15058584
>step on the ground
>get instant 3rd degree burns
Feels like a bad culprit for colonization honestly

How much advantage does the Vandenberg site have due to higher altitude?

>twilight launch
yes
>clouds
no

We're back
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603874735917764608

sus

Why didn’t SWOT have a SpaceX stream?

I missed the commercial. Why did they have to give their constellation such a retarded name

>>15058624
It was at 3 am, maybe nobody wanted to do it

>>15058624
>>15058631
It's definitely something to do with NASA. SpaceX doesn't do their own streams for lots of NASA launches. NASA must not like them.

>>15058624
NOAA?

>>15058621
He appointed a CEO to Twitch and got back to engineering shit?

https://youtu.be/xNeKB0Mx-EM

T-1 min

GO

KINO SUNSET LAUNCH

>>15058647
jk foiled by weather, remove atmosphere immediately

>>15058624
NASA didn't want SpaceX to take th views away

it's so boring
I don't even click on the stream when I see it on my yt feed anymore

58th launch of the year.

They'll beat 60 prob.

uh oh...

stage lost
spacex finnish

it's dead

F

nooooooo

Scamx is finished, honestly they never even started

Launch plume in the background

>>15058664
>spacex finnish
Vittu Saatana Perkele!

booster stuck in a 24.8 km high cloud

EAT SHIT FAGGOTS

IT LIVES!

Stage 1 landing CONFIRMED !!!!

>rain
wtf

>SpaceX wants to recover Starship and Booster at the pad
>Can't even recover a decade old F9

Why can't Starlink stay connected to the booster. I though it was that easy in solid state phased arrays

fade

>>15058680
yep

>>15058457
hmmmm roggs

>>15058645
she isso beaitiful andcute

>>15058669
Prkl

I have never doubted them

>>15058595
>the rover buries itself in the sand, to lie in wait for unsuspecting prey

>>15058703
>Digs a sinkhole under Starship landing pad

>>15058703
No it's just humping the ground

>>15058595
yeah girl, shake those wheels, just like that

>they don't know if they're in the right orbit
now they're finnished

>>15058603
You should treat her with respect

>>15058721
I would rape her

>>15058719

Nominal SECO-2 orbital insertion!

>Captura de Tela (146).png

>>15058724

>>15058729
>>15058728
can't fucking bother changing the filename

>>15058731

>>15058732
Is that white trail the booster plume?

Interesting info from L2: SpaceX is almost complete with the launch license for Starship. All that’s left is a full stack WDR and then the 33 engine static fire. Launch is hopefully at the end of January

>>15058733
Yes my brazilian friend

>>15058739
you should ingest some Sam Harris. also thanks for giving this valuable information. I am very excited for the 33 engines static. Btw will the WDR and the static be the same event basically the WDR culminating in a 33 engine static

>stream over
I thought they recovered stage 2 as well?

>>15058739
The launch has been 1-2 months away for over a year now

>>15058739
I need to see that history report lmao

>>15058265
>It was revealed to me in a dream.
>>15058396
nitter.net has worked for me recently
>>15058457
thinkin' about thos roggs

>>15058723
anon, please dont say things like that

>>15058741
sam harris turned out to be such a pussy
>>15058770
i thought it was already released?

>>15058776
>nitter.net has worked for me recently
always been terribly slow for me.
here you can see response times https://github.com/xnaas/nitter-instances

>>15058540
>totally not a shopped pic, trust me

>>15058781
>sam harris turned out to be such a pussy
why

>>15058389
>>15058396
>>15058776
>>15058789
nitter.moomoo.me generally works very well for me, save for that one time recently when its certificate apparently expired without being renewed immediately.

>>15058540
reminder it's not illegal to make up outrageous, even potentially dangerous, claims in america like it is in other countries

Random factoid but the MEO insertion burn will be the highest Falcon 9/Heavy maneuver to be broadcasted live. When Falcon Heavy did a direct to GEO insertion burn, it happened after the webcast ended

>It’s not the mere idea of colonizing mars that is the issue, it’s the idea of him leading the charge. If NASA were in control people wouldn’t have the same issue.
https://old.reddit.com/r/space/comments/znrf9i/whats_with_the_massive_influx_of_posts_against/

inb4 this thread is deleted by the mods too

>>15058797
according to this Aerospikes work better in vacuum than bells

>>15058802
>redditors are retarded luddites
Wow there was absolutely NO way to see this coming. What a shocking development, thanks for posting this here.

>>15058806
there have been a bunch of anti-mars colonization threads and a few pro-mars colonization ones but the mods are now deleting the pro-mars threads. seems like they're salty about elon so they're trying to support an end to colonization. funny how censorship is only okay when *they* are doing it.

>>15058794
extreme case of TDS, and i'm not even a trump fan. also his goofy meditation stuff, and giving SBF an hour to spew that effective altruism nonsense

>>15058810
I don't actually care anon. If reddit is that important to you, why don't you go back there?

stamps soon, next thread probably

What are your thoughts on forced deflection nozzles?

O3b deployed

Pretty insane to think about how the upper stage isn’t reusable, so they’ve made something on the order of 60-70 upper stages just for this year alone. Each with high design specifications, plumbing, an entire merlin engine. Idk it’s just crazy to think about. Those are some high numbers, and it has only had 1 partial failure back in 2016 out of 190 launches

>>15058837
I’m more worried about a stage 2 failure than anything else. Zero redundancy in it unlike S1

>>15058837
Oh wait it was 2015 and it was straight up and explosion with loss of stage lmao. Interestingly enough dragon survived but was destroyed on splash down because it just didn’t have software to deploy parachutes in the event of a rocket breakup. I forgot all about this

>>15058844
SeX’s early failures lead me to believe new glenn is going to be a fucking mess with potential growing pains so large it will ground the entire program

>>15058844
>>15058847
Also a second stage failed in 2016 which blew up Amos 6 on the pad

>>15058847
they are going slower than SLS, so it will work perfectly the first try

>>15058849
Oh shit really? I always assumed that was a booster problem. Huh.

Reusing the 1st stage of starship will be even more efficient than Falcon since they don't have to do an entry burn

>>15058550
It couldn't handle the shame of being built by russians

>>15058866
lol

>tfw Jool-5 failed because I forgot to put a second docking port on my mothership and couldn't refuel a lander.
welp still a nice Jool 4

>>15058837
>has only had 1 partial failure back in 2016
Both Amos 6 and CRS 7 were caused by the S2 and full failures.

>>15058881
Some people don’t count Amos 6 because it wasn’t a failure in flight but desu it still was a mission loss

Weird milestone but Falcon 9 Block 5 has now tied the number of flights the Shuttle made but with zero failures

>>15058826
welcome back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INApFoo7Bbc

>>15058940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7Bh76Sapk

So do cosmonauts commonly call Americans ‘cowboy’ or is this just a lie created by Armageddon

will we ever see cargo sls launch?

>>15059005
Not a dedicated one, no. Some gateway pieces are going up along with a crewed SLS launch I think. Unless that’s been cancelled

>>15059012
>Some gateway pieces are going up along with a crewed SLS launch
the sls can barely carry orion to the moon by itself

>>15058800

>>15059005
You would need to get a production rate that would exceed the rate at which Orion is launching on Artemis, which isn't likely to happen.

You could have an unusual circumstance where one gets dragooned into a non-Artemis mission, like a hasty Oumuamua part II intercept, but the possible missions that would be seen as worth delaying a moon landing for are few and far between.

There's also the problem that no one has even started work on a 8.4m fairing as far as I know, and you kinda need that to launch any kind of cargo.

>>15058739
Simply glowing. I've literally been staring at these photos for hours

>>15058826
tervetuloa takaisin nimettömänä
he has returned