/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15042252
>Ngl anons, I studied and worked in archeology and the idea warrants questions, why aren't these things being studied?
because This could completely turn the history of humanity on it's head

>>15042252
Science works on paradigms. Often people know something is wrong long long before a new theory is launched and eventually accepted

Because there's no evidence and hancock is a fraud

>>15042296
i wish they wouldn't keep poisoning the latter statement with the former (because there is evidence of some of these things, and that's how this 'grift' is facilitated - by claiming there isn't any truth to it, or even possibility of it, you're damaging the credibility of the entire field while trying to preserve it. did you learn nothing from the disaster that was the "zoonotic COVID" mandate of official truth?)

you can acknowledge the flaws in existing theories and evidence that may call them into question without endorsing fraudsters - dismissal and ridicule are the recourse of a fucking child, not a competent handling of the public's trust in academic institutions.

the truth will show them to be frauds without your declaration, but such a declaration has often been made when the truth is not yet complete enough to do so - and the credibility of the ones declaring the fraud suffers from the incompleteness of their information before the fraud can be truly reprimanded and excised from the discourse (which it, again, will do on its own).

in short, if you want people to dismiss something, take it seriously and then show your disappointment - don't look so fucking terrified of it because it might mean you were wrong; own your own failures and you'll earn more trust than your failures will have lost from reasonable (i.e. most) people.

>>15042305
>in short, if you want people to dismiss something, take it seriously and then show your disappointment
I find it funnier when the establishment shills just out themselves from the beginning instead of concern trolling for hours in a thread.

finno koreans

>>15042252
>>Similarities of ancient cultural imagery
Cherrypicks, ignores context and differences.

>>known time of climate disaster 13 - 11,000 BC
You mean Younger Dryas? What about it?

>>hundreds of feet of elevation gained in oceans over the course of days/weeks (wiping away most coastal, delta, river living people)
Source?

>>Hiawatha crater in exact place that would have caused disaster
It's 58 million years old. LMAO

>>Younger Dryas Boundary shows evidence of such an impact
No.

>>Gobekli Tepe
What about it?

>why aren't these things being studied?
The ones that Hancock and his ilk didn't make up are studied. That's how we know he's full of shit.

>>15042296
Of course you'd say that, and you're totally wrong. It's Mancock not Hancock. I don't know about the other thing you said though

>>15042252
I don't understand anything about any of what you said and have never heard of any of it. Some of the words looked like interesting words though. And you seem to be enjoying yourself in your photo

>>15042252
>>hundreds of feet of elevation gained in oceans over the course of days/weeks
>>Hiawatha crater in exact place that would have caused disaster


A meteor strike is a doomsday scenario that often gets talked about, but what would a comet strike look like?

>>15042327

>>15042557
The YD impactor is thought to have been either a comet or a massive plasma discharge, because there's no evidence of a metal core in the impact region.

JANNIES! Clear this shit!

>>15042320
concern trolling is a retort from those who are concerned but afraid to admit it.

i bet the vitriol in this discussion is coming from both sides being less certtain than they're used to - the only cure i've found for that infection of human tribalistic instinct into rational discourse is to forsake certainty as the irrational thing it is.

the truth will survive all doubt, and a lie can only survive in certainty.

we can do better than dismissal. if you cannot expend the effort to control that urge to dismiss and ridicule... perhaps you should learn to expect exactly the amount of persuasion your effort has earned.

>>15042656
Concern trolling is when someone disingenuously pretends to be a sympathetic actor expressing simple concerns (almost always red herrings) with a point in order to derail discussions.

>>15042252
To /x/ it goes

>>15042674
i am only sympathetic to rational discussion. not to a particular side of it - regardless of others inferring support from my lack of condemnation of anything but those whose only contributions are condemnation

why aren't these things being studied?

They are, but its relatively early days, and in this branch of science things move very slowly, no one with academic credentials wants to make an ass out of themselves without first building a rigorous bulk of overwhelming evidence.

Many reasons.
1) Its data poor. Researching human stuff after 11k years is obviously going a lot more difficult than just 4k years ago, especially if the the hypothesis that there was a cataclysmic event proves to be correct.
2) Academic inertia. A huge proportion of scientists are actually just hacks. They pay lip service to the notion of the scientific method but in practice tend to have a very narrow view and are highly resistant to change. They do not innovate and they are lacking in inquiry based talents. You will encounter these types at Universities and institutions a lot.
3) Vested interests. Who wants their academic career overthrown by some new whippersnapper grabbing all the glory? What publishers wants all their textbooks obsolete overnight? What grant council wants to risk funding an possible embarrassment? Its like Hollywood movies, you back the proven winning formulae rather than risk on outliers. ( Be guaranteed though that if the established narratives are overthrown the same assholes will be like "I always supported the new ideas")

Therefore the research tends to be underfunded and those researchers who are doing the work have incredibly high hurdles to jump before they can possibly hope to gain traction.

tt. Guy who initially dismissed people like Hancock and the idea of ancient civilizations as pure bunk, to be thrown in the same pile schizo tier tin foil hat ramblings, but eventually came around after impartially looking at the existing evidence. What this all means at the moment is anyone guess, but definitely it deserves being treated with respect and given adequate funding. And fuck the monkeys who say otherwise.

>>15042717
so, are we ready to talk about how for 1000's of years they made buildings with quartz, and supposedly never had the sense to ask why rock make light when drilling door hinges?

>>15042720
it may be a simple case of using a thing without really understanding it - or at least not understanding it the way we do today.

the Incan architecture is probably the most impressive to me because of what it achieves in such a seismically active region

it makes me wonder if the pieces were "cemented" together by resonating them against each other - basically grinding them flush together by forcing them to wear down each other until there's nothing left to wear down and the two surfaces are combined

you wouldn't necessarily need to know that's what's happening to have a ritual involving some resonating thing. hell, depending on the frequencies involved it may genuinely seem like the stones are being "sung" together to everyone involved

>>15042761
are we familiar with the ankh and was hieroglyph
chaining them together in that fashion.

Ankh - life, energy
was - resonance, frequency

consider pic related, is that not adequate in understanding what emf is?

>>15042782
observe the 'force field around the person on the right, if one looks closely its an ankh-waz field

>>15042784
dont get me started on djed, we didn't have the memristor carved out until the 70's

>>15042784
>"here have a taste of this ankh"
>"why thank you pointy bird man"

>>15042565
It seems to be under a massive amount of ice, anon.

>>15042252
>I studied and worked in archeology
Don't lie to your fellow anons.

>>15042460
>we
sorry, but fat fedora-tipping neckbeards who check Wikipedia to address OP don't really get to say "we" in an archaeological context

>>15042967
Not an argument. Thanks for conceding.

>>15042305
>i wish they wouldn't keep poisoning the latter statement with the former (because there is evidence of some of these things, and that's how this 'grift' is facilitated
>you can acknowledge the flaws in existing theories and evidence that may call them into question without endorsing fraudsters
Sure, but either way it's a catch-22.

Say that you have enough evidence to see cracks in mainstream theory, but not enough to formulate a cohesive theory that explains everything. You need more evidence, but no one is interested in looking for it.
If you don't make up a bullshit alternative theory, nobody ever gives a shit about contradictory evidence. The retort you get is "so what do you propose?"
If you do make up a bullshit alternative theory just to respond, you are a fraudster, but at least you generated interest in the subject matter, whether to prove you right or wrong.

Overall these fraudsters are beneficial. They prevent mainstream academics from getting too comfortable within their theoretical frameworks. The slowness of academia to adapt to new evidence is what facilitates the grift.

As much as I dislike this fat fuck, he completely BTFO'd Ancient Apocalypse and Graham.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=341Lv8JLLV4

So bodhi was right once again? He can't stop dunking on and tea bagging the pseuds here

Hancock raises valid points, that certain answers to open questions are not being considered because of the established paradigm in archaeology. The theories he builds in order to explain these open questions are crazy, however they are at least falsifiable. Easily falsifiable in fact. Yet what archaeologists do is seethe and rely on personal attacks instead of actually dismantling what he says and building compelling theories themselves.

It's hilarious that when Hancock points out that hunter-gatherers could not have built something, the major rebuttal is that it is racist to suggest that. Clown world argument.

I think archaeologists are also upset because Hancock (much more successfully) mirrors all the shady practices they themselves participate in when it suits them or when it is useful to secure funding, eg. cherrypicking elements of ancient myths and extrapolating them. The best example of that is Troy, which has as much scientific grounding as Atlantis. Yet with the Troy myth they were able to secure funding so they doubled down on it and if you doubt Troy ever existed you are going "against scientific consensus." Ridiculous.

>almost all creation myths universally share the same elements?
>well the flood my is clearly based on a memory of the end of the last ice age
>not other elements though, they are made up superstition and you are crazy for suggesting otherwise

>>15043167
In ten thousand years, the afterbirth of humanity's sin will think star wars is a historical recounting,

This doc is only on netflix because his son is a netflix executive

>>15042252
It is certainly imaginative and interesting to think about, but so far there is not enough evidence and most of whatever evidence there is would be underwater making it almost impossible to recover without a lot of money.

The science is settled. There wasn't any interaction between ancient cultures, okay? There just wasn't. Stop causing problems.

>>15043167
>r u fucken telling us that the same results of >this entire study could be accomplished simply by
> >>>drinking???

>>15043193
Yeah there wasn't because of the vast distances

>>15043193
Also fuck off to /pol/, you don't even have a STEM degree or work in a STEM field.

>>15043167
I hypothesize Piri Reis' amazingly accurate longitude happened because he copied off ancient source maps.

The source maps were mapped by Tesla patent 787412 with the pyramids being the source

>>15043200
why don't you fuck off to pol you pompous twit. Are you just here to gatekeep or are you truly frightened by different perspectives?

>>15043205
Fuck off to /pol/ because that's where you are from and your perspective is not based in any scientific or engineering experience, you're just an online political faggot.

>>15042477
I would sure like to man his cock tho.

>>15042252
>Ngl anons, I studied and worked in archeology and the idea warrants questions, why aren't these things being studied? This could completely turn the history of humanity on it's head
The historians don't like to accept that they were wrong about history.

>>15043214
>historians are wrong because I read shit on the internet!

What I don't get about his theory of the great flood etc. is that he never considers that every culture has a story about a flood because...floods are really fucking common around the world. Especially to early humans if a huge flood happened it would sure seem to them like the whole world (their world) is flooded.

>>15043198
>vast distances
Boats existed prior to 1492.

>>15043244
Travelling by boat took forever, was dangerous, and required many factors. Travelling long distances was a gigantic risk. That's why it took thousands of years for men to travel from Europe to the American continent.

>>15043167
>Yet what archaeologists do is seethe and rely on personal attacks instead of actually dismantling what he says and building compelling theories themselves.
You haven't actually looked then. Many archaeologists have refuted essentialy every claim he makes.

>It's hilarious that when Hancock points out that hunter-gatherers could not have built something, the major rebuttal is that it is racist to suggest that.
No, the main rebuttal is that he has no basis to say that, he lies when he says archaeologists claim this, and all the evidence shows they built megalithic structures all over the world.

>The best example of that is Troy, which has as much scientific grounding as Atlantis.
LOL, you're delusional. They found Troy, no one has ever presented a single trace of Atlantis. Graham has no evidence. How do you keep ignoring this and equating him with archaeologists who limit themselves to the evidence?

>>15043193
Where's the evidence?

>>15043225
Also, a lot of flood myths are copied from a neighboring culture's flood myths that were imported.

>>15043225
Him pushing the idea of a forgotten worldwide trauma is that there was a worldwide catastrophe near the end of the YD and he points to possibilities of such a thing happening with what was left behind. He personally believes it may have been a globally significant civilization who were capable of great feats long before the current paradigm would think it possible. He only has bits and pieces here and there unexplained by current models that should be investigated
>T. Realized in grad school that everything he says about archaeologists not wanting to consider new possibilities is very fucking true and it can kill your career before it begins
Anons the gatekeeping is at a level you couldn't even imagine.

>>15043200
>Invokes boogyman
Kek

>>15043190
I think it's a massive disservice that underwater archaeology isn't as common. It is very expensive though so it's understandable but it's also obvious that coast regions might have much to discover from when sea levels were much lower.

>>15043225
>>15043269
cope

>>15043262
>we found ruins that must be Troy
>how we know Troy was ever real in the first place??
>well we found these ruins that must be Troy
Reminder that this is unironically what archaeologists consider a scientifically sound argument.

>>15043300
All you have are strawmen. Yawn.

>>15043260
Lots of things that humans do are difficult. Building pyramids, for example. If the pyramids weren't still standing you would scoff at the idea that ancient civilizations could build structures of that magnitude.

>>15043290
What am I coping about? I was just asking a question

>>15043321
Hancock's rabid fans are braindead.

>>15043311
Building a stone pyramid is the easiest structure you can build. That's why you can find them all around the world, stacking rocks doesn't require any mathematics and very little engineering knowledge. You just need a lot of time and a lot of men.

>>15043329
Kind of like building a ship.

>>15043260
not really, you can go from europe to the carribean in not so much as a barrell.

Two i think basquemen did it on a ponty float too a couple decades ago, cant find the documentary though

>>15043339
Building a boat is no good if you don't understand navigation or die from diseases

>>15043364
Doing something now when we understand everything =/ doing something 10, 000 years ago you stupid fucking /pol/tard

>>15043378
Just because people today are adolscent onions-boi's that wont as so much step on a road without everything having triple redundancy and every person liscenced doesn't mean they were that way in the past

all you need is some hemp rope and some logs and trade winds will carry you

>>15043378
>REEEE you can't just cross oceans without smartphones and vaccinations and maps amd and and
You are an embarrasment.

>>15043378
>More boogyman
Why do you live in fear

>>15043214
I don't think they're necessarily wrong, but some things aren't being investigated that probably should. I am astounded that the rest of Gobekli Tepe isn't excavated

>>15043225
I think he does, but he examines it with reference to evidence of said floods and other similarities. Outside of that context, sure it could just be a storytelling technique, but in the greater context it seems plausible they are referencing more than just some giant flashflood from a bad storm.

>>15043392
Literally kill yourself, you contribute nothing here.

>>15043427
I'm exposing you for being an ignorant hall monitor who sages this thread because you feel threatened that you are no longer in control of the narrative. I understand, the priesthood must maintain their influence over society at all cost. You are still a douchenozzle though.

>>15043137
it isnt hard to do, you just have to actually know what you are talking about which 99.9% of the morons here never do. Treat them like children as that is about the extent of their mental capacity and knowledge. None of this information is new. I will wager the show ancient aliens has been on nearly as long as most of these fools have been alive but they never watched it because they thought it was funny to meme about it or w/e retarded shit NPCs do for retarded reasons.

It doesnt matter what you think about the shows premise or their theories the fact remains that they present 100% factual, proof positive evidence that the mainstream narrative is bullshit. I dont know if there were ayys or not, most of the ancient accounts appear to claim so. The only thing I have against the ancient aliens show is they never talk about atlantis (even though many of the contributors on the show do in their own work like Childress, Hancock and many others) which can be proven to have existed beyond question.

>>15043467
>the fact remains that they present 100% factual, proof positive evidence that the mainstream narrative is bullshit
Like what?

>>15042856
The magnetic anomaly from an impactor can be detected no matter what's on top of it.

>>15043260
The plumeria, a New World flower, is depicted in religious carvings in Southeast Asia and has the same religious meaning in their symbolism as it does in South America.

>>15043656
So where is it?

>>15043467
You are way over the edge. At best, more investigation is needed, particularly in regions that are underwater. There is no hard evidence of such a thing.

>>15043438
kek get fucked retard

>>15043364
You don't actually believe this, right? It's a world of difference.

>>15043708
There isn't one, that's the problem. If it was a meteor crater so and so years old, there would be an impactor.

>>15043656
doesn't this only apply to iron meteorites?

>>15043260
>Travelling by boat took forever
don't limit the expansion rate of a society by the distance you think can be traveled in a single trip - it's not a good approximation for less linear expansion of a population

>was dangerous
relative, and the hazards of a boat aren't exactly the same as the hazards of a raft or smaller vessel - certainly not dangerous enough to kill everyone trying to fish in deeper waters, which humans have been doing for a LONG fucking time

>and required many factors
basically all you need is a motive (i.e. fish) and a method (i.e. rafting) and you've got all the impetus necessary to make long distance travel over ocean something less like a barrier and more like an inevitability (especially if you consider that these explorations of "new spots to hunt/fish" could literally be extending a bit further each generation and you'd be crossing the planet in a matter of a couple centuries at absolute worst)

>>15043378
>we understand everything
<_<

>>15043202
nigga what

>>15044994
Any metallic meteorite. Hence why it has to be ice or plasma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXe4aSfeFI

>>15043797
You are way too ignorant to address me kid. Stay in your sandbox

>>15043525
watch it and find out, seek and ye shall find
https://ugetube.com/@bodhi_mantra?page=play-lists

>>15046189
Nah, not watching your schizo playlist. Just tell me what you think the best example is.

>>15043260
ooga boogas on Pacific islands literally crossed the Pacific back and forth for thousands of years. They even left genetic markers in South America. The eurocentric viewpoint has become increasingly closeminded and dogmatic in modern times.

>>15047100
nah not wasting my time on your ignorance and retardation, my time is actually valuable unlike yours. go suck on some tranny balls

>>15048259

>>15049053
LOL, so you can't even give one example. What are you afraid of? Your time is clearly not valuable since you spend hours spamming your schizo shit all over this board.

>>15043202
I'm pretty sure I could spell 4chan if I cherry picked monuments around the world.

>>15042252
Good day fellow scientist. Please study this if you are interested.
Graham loses people when he bases his conclusions on assumptions which he has made earlier as though those earlier assumptions are fact, which they are not, because he made them earlier.
It's entertaining as hell, and I thoroughly enjoyed this piece of media so much I want Graham to continue to produce stuff like this. I'll rewatch this many times, in fact. Conversely, criticism of his approach to sharing his ideas from BigArcheology is not ... outlandish ... given his approach.
I'd like to see him tighten it up a bit more in his next production and really nail the hard-hitting journo angle. Marine archaeology and megalithic archaeology need attention and funding. Graham getting laymen interested is a good first step, as long as he's open about what is empirical fact and what is only theory at this point in time, and doesn't end up misleading the ignorant.
Godspeed.

>>15042460
The 12,000 year ago timeframe fits perfectly with doug vogts micronova theory

>>15042460
>gobekli tepe
I think some of the oldest evidence of large-scale beer production comes from this site

>>15050001
It's not conclusive, but so what? What archaeologists say beer making wasn't done in the Neolithic?

>>15049976
I'm sure a lot of nonsense fits perfectly with other nonsense.

>>15042252
If you studied and worked in archaeology you’d know that Gobekli Tepe is being studied. It’s been being excavated for decades. The finds get published in the top archaeological journals. It gets taught all the time. I know this because unlike you I actually did study archaeology, and we had multiple lectures on Gobekli Tepe at undergrad level. It’s hardly being covered up anon.

>>15043167
>The best example of that is Troy, which has as much scientific grounding as Atlantis.
Troy is much more attested in myth than Atlantis, the former comes from older Homeric myth and the latter from the later Platonic dialogues.

>>15042252

>be anatomically modern human
>sandbag for 290000 years
>suddenly decide to start a civilization 10k years ago, coinciding with the start of the current interglacial

OR

>be anatomically modern human
>interglacial starts (one of last 2, or 4 if you also include Neanderthals), human population grows
>develop civilization/culture/technology
>the population increases, but as soon as the temperature starts dropping with the onset of new glacial, the civilization collapses. Look at bronze age collapse, volcanic winter of 536 or little ice age (except orders of magnitude worse) for what happens: temperature drops -> crop failures -> food scarcity -> diseases because of malnutrition -> wars for resources/fertile land -> severe population drop -> collapse of the civilization.
>enter survival mode for the next 90 millennia of cold.
>because the population is now so low and humans are all focusing solely on survival and recovery, there isn't much technological progress, but there's also less conflict.
>as soon as the next interglacial starts, the population starts growing again, and the cycle repeats.
>there are no hints and evidence for previous civilizations because 90k years of geological processes turn everything except for the stone tools and fossils into dust.

idk about you, but the latter just FEELS right, you know.

>>15043364
>The African Olmecs
Kek

>Archaeology finds ample evidence and artifacts of Neanderthals and of the inhabitants of what used to be doggerland which is now underwater
>not a single shred of evidence of his advanced civilization
If the cataclysm didn’t wipe out the evidence of the hunter gatherers then why did it wipe out the advanced ones that presumably had the means to travel the globe?
Even then at their fastest, the melt water pulses of the Holocene were about 30cm per year

>>15053572
artifacts of Neanderthals are mainly stone tools and fossilized stuff, because anything else would have degraded over the 40,000 years due to natural and geological processes. If our civilization ends tomorrow, the stone tools of present day aboriginal tribes will outlast the steel and plastic tools of our current advanced civilization and will be among the few things you will find 10,000 years from now that would point towards a presence of an advanced civilization.

>>15053631
Damn that’s a pretty good coincidence that there’s evidence of everything else except this fantastical civilization

>>15042787
>Bunch of random unrelated diagrams next to a fucking hieroglyph.
Also what the hell does memristor and a fucking battery cell have to do with each other in this context??

>>15053676
reminder that 6 years ago there literally was "no evidence" of the Homo Sapiens being 150,000 years (!) older than originally thought, because archaeologists mistook the bones that have been discovered 60 (!) years ago for Neanderthals'.

>>15042252
At first it seems Christian-friendly, but then you realize how much heretical shit they're sneaking in there.

>>15054042
He's very clearly anti-Christian in his books and lectures, which is funny because Catholic missionaries are the only reason we have any of the stories and artifacts he cares about (such as in South America).

>>15053983
Source?

>>15053983
So let us know when you have that evidence, OK buddy?

>>15053631
>If our civilization ends tomorrow, the stone tools of present day aboriginal tribes will outlast the steel and plastic tools of our current advanced civilization and will be among the few things you will find 10,000 years from now that would point towards a presence of an advanced civilization.
Wrong.

https://youtu.be/WCpPg4FHP1Q

>>15054455
this man is a homosexual and so are you

>>15053572
>If the cataclysm didn’t wipe out the evidence of the hunter gatherers then why did it wipe out the advanced ones that presumably had the means to travel the globe?
People find wheels and steel parts fossilized in coal seams all the time.

>>15054477
Not an argument. Thanks for conceding there would be plenty of remnants of an advanced civilization.

Micronova. Jews are all up in this thread

>>15054514
Im not the anon you responded to. I just correctly surmised you and the person who made that video enjoy ingesting semen

>>15054480
No they don't.

>>15054573
Yes they quite literally do.

>>15054548
See >>15054514

>>15054598
Proof?

>>15042252
we already established this like a decade ago

>>15054635
Google it, broski. They're called "out of place artifacts" and they're usually found while mining. Bells, crucibles, hammers, carriage wheels, etc. have all been found all across history.

>>15046142
>nigga what
Here, I'll drop dis' beat
Use "sndup"
Dot net slash khhb

History, we opine
found their maths so divine
mapped this rock to the line
Sistrum buzzed, the length of time
Piri Reis, got in mind
Sourced from ancient rhymes
longitude, tesla’s find
antarctic coast, pre-defined
rods tipped of a pine
their bag was a sign
across oceans of time
their legends told-sibylline
Brick baking sunshined
secret sauce, crystalline
poured all in a line,
Giza heartbeat, they enshrined
Imhotep – deified
Orion- they aligned
Atlantis - they consigned
A mystery school, a jewel of minds
rods tipped of a pine
their bag was a sign
across oceans of time
their legends told-sibylline
seafaring coastlines
The globe they assigned
Optics they aligned
the light of Ra, which they combined
Tuning forks yo they chimed
resonant, so sublime
ripplin’ the space-time
standing waves, amplified
rods tipped of a pine
their bag was a sign
across oceans of time
their legends told-sibylline
Queens chamber all in brine
water filled its pipelines
sound waves, brought online
piezoelectric, intensified
radiative necklines
Melted granite stairlines
quartz lighting up the skies
illuminating the darkest minds,
global trade maritime,
cross cultural peacetime
Hieroglyphic punchlines
Writing in memes, all their lives
rods tipped of a pine
their bag was a sign
across oceans of time
their legends told-sibylline

>>15053687
>trying to get me started on djed as a memristor
Look into sintered quartz ancient Egyptian faience, compare with thomas Henry moray and djosers wall. These guys were creating piezoelectric columns with permittivity and permeability gradients

Memristive effects are found in electret voltaic columns and likely thomas Henry morays 'crackpot' machines

>>15054644
I did Google it and found no evidence of wheels or steel parts in coal at all, let alone "all the time." Why did you lie?

>>15054731

>>15054752
>I did Google it and found no evidence of wheels or steel parts in coal at all, let alone "all the time." Why did you lie?
Why are disingenuous lies always followed by "why did you lie?" Are you the one posting this in every thread?

>>15054439
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jebel_Irhoud#:~:text=It%20is%20noted,artefacts%20found%20nearby).

>>15055145
additionally

the article right now:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_modern_human
this article in 2017:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170113163639/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomically_modern_human

>one single dating casually makes humanity more than 1.5 times older, no biggie

>>15055145
Right, so if Jebel Irhoud is Homo sapien, it would push back the earliest known Homo sapien by 100K, not 150K. But so what? Jebel Irhoud shows distinct anatomical differences, so it's hardly controversial to say that precursors to fully modern Homo sapiens existed prior to the earliest kmown one.

I really don't get how showing archaeologists accepting evidence that changes their narrative supports three argument that archaeologists should accept narratives with no evidence, or that archaeologists are rejecting evidence in order to preserve their narrative.

>>15054852
>Why are disingenuous lies always followed by "why did you lie?"
If what I said is a lie, it should be trivial for you to show evidence of your claim that wheels and steel are found fossilized in coal. But you've avoided doing this several times. I generously let you shift the burden of proof onto me by making me search for evidence of your claim and I found nothing. Why did you lie?

>>15054731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKCmooQoMY4

>>15043300
Well it's the ruins of a city in Ionia, what else could it be but Troy?
>inb4 some other city
That's just baseless speculation

>>15055393
>distinct anatomical differences
however you want to define that, the differences are not only not big enough to classify these specimen as belonging to separate more archaic form of humans like Neanderthals, which are still fully compatible to Homo Sapiens in that the interbreeding is possible and definitely had happened, but it's also not big enough to call them anything else other than "archaic Homo Sapiens", which is not a differentiation of sub-species and whatnot, but simply a denotation of their age in relation to other Homo Sapiens specimen. For all intents and purposes these are anatomically modern humans.
>accept narratives with no evidence
exactly, that's what they shouldn't do, and yet they stated that "homo sapiens first appeared 200,000 years ago" on the wiki page 6 years ago. How is that not an example of "accepting a narrative with no evidence"? There was no evidence that Homo Sapiens DIDN'T exist before 200,000 years. If they're not careful with statements like this, it is prone to becoming dogmatic and difficult to get out of with time.
>archaeologists are rejecting evidence in order to preserve their narrative
sitting on the evidence for years is not much different than rejecting it.
my point is there's no such "evidence of everything" yet, evidence is extremely fragmented and poorly studied. new evidence, however, is coming in with every year, with a potential to extend the timeline considerably with just one dating, and yet archaeologists still act like know-alls with their faulty timelines they conceived half a century ago.

>>15055443
>exactly, that's what they shouldn't do, and yet they stated that "homo sapiens first appeared 200,000 years ago" on the wiki page 6 years ago.
Because that's what the evidence showed.

>There was no evidence that Homo Sapiens DIDN'T exist before 200,000 years.
The evidence was the absence of fossils from before that time. Just like the evidence that Hancock's advanced civilization never existed is the absence of evidence that it did. The absence of evidence we would expect to find if something is true is evidence it's false.

>it is prone to becoming dogmatic and difficult to get out of with time.
Demonstrably not, since the opposite occurred.

>sitting on the evidence for years is not much different than rejecting it.
What evidence was sat on?

>yet archaeologists still act like know-alls with their faulty timelines they conceived half a century ago.
Demanding evidence for your crackpot claims and pointing out the eviscerated against them is not being a "know it all." Cry more.

Why do people keep misusing the word ἀποκάλυψις? It just means "revelation, prophecy, disclosure" from a divine or mystical source.

>>15054145
He's obviously just using Christians to make his shit go viral before he goes full Atlantis, Anunnaki, and ancient aliens. Seen this plot line a million times.

>>15055824
He has adapted his nonsense to the YD Impact crackpots, which are full of creationists and biblical liberalists.

>>15050512
why would you expect nonsense to be independently consistent? are the schizos communicating with each other telepathically or something?

>>15055792
>Because that's what the evidence showed.
no, the evidence showed that homo sapiens "existed" 200,000 years ago, not that they "first appeared" 200,000 years ago. It is in fact very hard to provide the necessary evidence for the "appearance" of a species, because one would have to prove beyond all doubt that the species did not exist before the specified date.
>The evidence was the absence of fossils from before that time.
"I don't see God, therefore it doesn't exist"-type of reasoning. Scientific theories built on top of this lack of knowledge are not much better than other types of speculation.
>Demonstrably not, since the opposite occurred.
Yea, and it took 60 years for this to happen. How long were Neanderthals depicted as hunchbacked ooga-booga ape-cavemen for again?
>What evidence was sat on?
you would be surprised how much fossils and archaeological finds just collect dust waiting for their turn in storage rooms. happens with dinosaur fossils all the time
https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/dinosaur-species-discovered-among-fossils-stored-at-canadian-museum-for-decades-1.2851095
>Demanding evidence for your crackpot claims
knowing fuck-all about 95% of the human species' past, only choosing the safest and most linear explanations and still being constantly course-corrected by new finds up to this date does not warrant calling other ideas "crackpot".

>>15055916
Because there's so much nonsense and it's so arbitrary that it's not hard to find nonsense that fits each other. You lack basic reasoning skills.

>>15042296
1 Egyptian pound has been transferred to your account.

>>15056004
>no, the evidence showed that homo sapiens "existed" 200,000 years ago, not that they "first appeared" 200,000 years ago.
It's not simply that the 200K evidence existed, it's that it was the earliest evidence. What is so hard to understand about this?

>"I don't see God, therefore it doesn't exist"-type of reasoning.
Yes, and?

>Scientific theories built on top of this lack of knowledge are not much better than other types of speculation.
Not speculation, evidence-based reasoning.

>Yea, and it took 60 years for this to happen.
For what to happen? For a scientist to come up with a new hypothesis and treat it? For me techniques and technology to be created? I'm sorry science isn't moving as fast as you like, what are you doing about it besides whining?

>you would be surprised how much fossils and archaeological finds just collect dust waiting for their turn in storage rooms.
So you advocate for more funding for archaeologists right? Sat on implies deliberate suppression of evidence.

>knowing fuck-all about 95% of the human species' past, only choosing the safest and most linear explanations
Yes, that's called rationality. You don't think zebras when you hear hoofbeats. Why are you advocating scientists make up wild stories?

>does not warrant calling other ideas "crackpot".
Right, what warrants it is your lack of evidence and conflict with existing evidence. You can't defend either so you play the victim. This is Hancock's modus operandi.

>>15042293
>science progresses one death at a time

>>15056130
>Yes, that's called rationality. You don't think zebras when you hear hoofbeats. Why are you advocating scientists make up wild stories?
We're only asking that you humble yourselves a tiny bit instead of pretending you know everything.

>>15056130
>Not speculation, evidence-based reasoning.
considering the scarcity of the evidence in relation to the amount of time the reasoning based on these evidence covers (hundred thousands years - ten times the span of our current civilization because of one single fossil) – like I said, reasoning like that is not much better than speculation.

>>15056142
No one pretended to know everything. Hancock's own show is full of archaeologists saying they don't know things. You're arguing against a straw man.

>>15056165
It is much better. Evidence is always better than no evidence. Archaelogy will never be equivalent to crackpot pseudohistory no matter how hard you try to equivocate.

>>15056194
Archaeologists pretend they know a lot of things, like that they know better than the Inca and the Egyptians about their own recorded history. They still claim the Sphinx and Pyramids are very new when inscriptions from the time of their alleged construction claim they were rebuilt or expanded rather than actually originated.

>>15043300
You think that both the Hittites and the Greeks made up a city called Wilusa or Ilios located on the north-western coast of Anatolia? For what exact purpose would they have done that? I understand that the storicity of the Trojan War is dubious but doubting the existence of the city is simply you wanting to be a contrarian.

>>15056205
>Archaeologists pretend they know a lot of things, like that they know better than the Inca and the Egyptians about their own recorded history.
Well they do. Since the average Egyptian is not aware of most archaeological evidence and analysis.

>They still claim the Sphinx and Pyramids are very new when inscriptions from the time of their alleged construction claim they were rebuilt or expanded rather than actually originated.
Because that's what the evidence says. Why are you ignoring evidence?

>>15056245
>Because that's what the evidence says. Why are you ignoring evidence?
The evidence says they existed before the time archaeologists claim they were built. Archaeologists are the only ones telling you to disbelieve the evidence in these cases.

>>15056239
Ironically the Illiad is the best proof that mythohistory is accurate and that dogmatic archies are pseuds. The site confirms evidence discovered in mainland Greece to suggest that there was a major war that destroyed Troy and also destabilized Greece due to the deaths of major leaders.

The difference between crackpot theory and The Science was one "schizo" archaeologist who dedicated his life to finding Troy.

>>15056251
>The evidence says they existed before the time archaeologists claim they were built.
No it doesn't. The record you're referring to contains several anachronisms that immediately prove it's not accurate. Also, the temple is built on ruins that contradict it's claim to have been built before Khufu.

>>15042460
>According to a news release by the University of Copenhagen, an analyses performed on grains of sand and rocks washed by meltwater from the crater site to the edge of the glacier, the Hiawatha impact crater is far older. In fact, a new study published in the journal Science Advances today reports its age to be 58 million years old.


Bro the asteroid slammed into the earth so hard 12,000 the impact uncovered material millions of years old.

Just because sand and rock were old doesn’t mean the crater is that old. All this means is the crater was so deep that what’s being eroded is what’s left in the crater.

>>15056370
Broski, why don't you read the study and find out why it dates the crater instead of making shit up to preserve your fantasy version of history?

>>15056404
Are you dense? The excerpt I posted says the method they used. They collected sediment runoff at the base of the glacier.

Like I said if a meteor impacts hundreds of feet into the ground, all of the top layers were blown off.

>>15056468
>The excerpt I posted says the method they used.
It doesn't, it said they did an analysis on pebbles. It doesn't say what the analysis was. You misinterpreted it as saying that it analyzed the age of the pebbles when in fact it analyzed the age of alterations to the pebbles by the impact. You're an idiot.

>>15056486


http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbressan/2022/03/09/hiawatha-crater-dated-to-a-few-million-years-after-dinosaurs-extinction-impact/amp/


Sediment runoff comes from the top layer. Like I said the top layer was blown off by the impact and resulted in a crater hundreds of feet deep into ancient bedrock.

>>15056486
Idk if Down syndrome or just retarded. Where do you think those pebbles come from? The current crater is under 1,000 feet of ice. They don’t just go down and collect pebbles. The pebbles that are collected are the ones washed down by water? Idk what’s so hard to comprehend? Where do you think their samples came from?

>>15056502
Where’s my image

>>15056370
You have no idea how impacts are dated just read the paper

>>15056498
Like I said, this is a misrepresentation. They didn't date the pebbles and assume they were the same age as the crater. Not everyone is as retarded as you are. They dated the effect the impact had one the pebbles. Even your own article says this:

>During the impact high-pressure and high-temperature minerals, like zircon, formed in the rocks surrounding the impact site. The crystalline structure of zircon contains radioactive elements. As they decay to stable lead, the remaining levels of radioactive elements can be used to pinpoint the age of the crystal. The scientists extracted the zircon crystals from sand grains and pebbles washed by meltwater from beneath the ice sheet to the accessible glacier forefield.

Why are you doubling down on your stupidity?

>>15056502
>Where do you think those pebbles come from?
It doesn't matter where they came from, since they didn't date the pebbles age. They dated the age of the effect the impact had on the pebbles. You fucking moron. So your objections are irrelevant, because you didn't even understand the dumbed down explanation of the paper. How many times does this need to be explained to you?

>>15056291
I didn't know that geological weathering on the sphinx and quarry master's work signage can contain anachronisms. TIL.

>>15056577
Both are consistent with the consensus view of the Sphinx.

>>15056598
Uh, no? Not even in the slightest. The weathering is so different from the consensus view that people who discuss it are labeled crackpots.

>>15056606
They are called crackpots because they have no idea what they're talking about, just like you.

https://youtu.be/DaJWEjimeDM

>>15056666
Why do you keep posting this homo? He's not intelligent or correct.

>>15056671
Not an argument. Thanks for conceding that the geology of the Sphinx is consistent with the consensus view.

>>15056722
Oh I get it now. You're upset that I insulted you for being a midwit on your youtube channel. Look, it's alright, you're not a geologist. Just leave it to the experts alright?

>>15056758
See >>15056722

>>15056671
He is hands down the most retarded poster on this board. Never engage, I repeat never engage

>>15056821
That's right, don't engage when your bullshit gets refuted. What a strategy!

>>15056821
I see your point. Better to not let him slide the thread and just talk about the topic at hand.

Bros... i want to believe him. I really do but where are are my aliens? It doesn't make sense without the intervention of aliens, specifically underwater aliens.

>>15057037
The aliens were actually just farther diverged humans who weren't able to help. Sorry you won't get your alien waifu anon :(

>>15057037
There are none. It's all just human ingenuity.

>>15057045
you mean white people ingenuity

>>15057049
Yeah I said human didn't I?

His talk about the mythology was garbage, as floods are incredibly common to coastal regions that had most of the population and don't need particularly strong explanation. It does not surprise me that these stories are common, nor ones about horrible winds or earthquakes. What I do question are the building techniques of the ancients. I have visited both the pyramids and Machu Picchu. I simply cannot believe that bronze/stone tools and mere people were capable of constructing those sites. I didn't buy the explanations from the guides or posts while there.

Come to find out the sphinx and pyramids may be older than the civilization that eventually inhabited them and inscribed other shit, and the blocks at Machu Picchu may have been glazed by substantial heat and formed. Btw don't even visit egypt it's a shit hole

what's the mainstream explanation of these cut marks you find all over the ancient sites?

>>15057573
Saws and manual drills.

>>15057872
made of copper?

idiot

>>15056993
It's weird how you were fine discussing the age of the Sphinx until your bullshit got refuted, and now suddenly it's off topic. LMAO

>>15057346
>I simply cannot believe that bronze/stone tools and mere people were capable of constructing those sites.
Have you actually looked for explanations before disbelieving them? Because essentially all ancient stone cutting techniques have been replicated in modern times. People don't realize that stone cuts stone, primitive metals and abrasives cut stone. It takes longer but ancient people weren't lacking in time and manpower.

>>15057960
Yes, with abrasives. Why not?

>>15057960
https://www.hallofmaat.com/unforbiddengeology/ancient-egyptian-copper-coring-drills/

>>15042296
If he's a fraud why is he on TV?

>>15058048
Because his son is an executive at Netflix. Also, frauds sell.

>>15058010
did you even read this moron? this is for making fucking vases not drilling hoes in granite you fucking donkey

>>15058088
Oh no... you accused me of reading it when you didn't read it. What a moron.

>Fig. 5. Granite core (UC16036) from Giza of 4th Dynasty date.

>Copper and bronze are insufficient in terms of indentation hardness to cut by abrasion the majority of minerals in hardrocks such as basalt, diorite, granite, metagreywacke (slate/schist), and siliceous sandstone (quartzite). A harder material than the metal itself is required as an abrasive in order to cut these rocks. This abrasive material could have been used as shards of rocks or crystals used as cutting teeth, charged copper or bronze (abrasive impregnated into the metal), or as loose abrasive grains.

>Fig. 8. Coring mark on the granite porphyry sarcophagus of the Great Pyramid, 4th Dynasty.

>A granite block from Aswan was used to test the coring drill. Initially, the surface of the granite was flattened by pounding with a diabase (dolerite) hammer. An outline equal to the diameter of the cutting edge of the coring bit was marked on the surface of the rock with red paint, and this outline was used to guide the carving of a shallow groove into the surface of the granite with a flint chisel and stone hammer. This was done to prevent the coring bit from slipping from the area being cut, during the initial stage of coring. This slippage was no longer a problem when the depth of the cut exceeded 5 mm.

The article describes multiple experiments in which granite was drilled with copper and abrasives. Why did you lie about what the article says? Apologize now and promise to do better next time.

>>15055422
incredible rap, why was the that post deleted though, it contained a bunch of scientific insight just in poetry form
>>/sci/thread/S15042252#p15054731

>>15058007

the smoking gun for me is the paleomagnetic investigation of the stones. It is mainstream knowledge that the magnetic domains of rocks are set when they are solidified from magma by earths magnetic field. If the stones were quarried one would expect to have the stones all pointing in random directions magnetically, however they are all in the same alignment, conferring the setting of a geopolymer

>>15058280
Point?

>>15058280
https://www.metmuseum.org/blogs/now-at-the-met/2015/ancient-egyptian-technology#!#1

>>15058063
>Also, frauds sell.
This is more important than any nepotism you proporsed. People will eat up any bullshit marketed as anti-establishment. Content is irrelevant. Just insinuate (or outright state) that the hidebound academics are against your bullshit and you're golden. Have a look at the section laughably titled 'non-fiction' in airport shops.

>>15058368
debates about abrasive drilling
points out they are not threads like a screw from twisting but concentric circles indicative of pounding (sonic drill)

>>15058464

>>15058376
https://steemit.com/engineering/@engineercampus/forgetting-and-inventing-of-ancient-cities-and-space-colonies

>>15046162
What if it is full of aluminum?

>>15058615
Aluminum is paramagnetic.

>>15058268
love crustal links
https://esotericawakening.com/atlantean-aryan
https://esotericawakening.com/are-the-welsh-the-lost-ten-tribes-of-israel

>>15058113
You cant all me a moron after I just called you one moron. Get your own insults NPC

>>15042252
His theory is incredibly stupid. You would have to believe that a civilization rose up which had writing, agriculture, architecture and pottery in order to pass this knowledge on to another civilization after they were destroyed. Yet these people who invented all that never traded with anyone, never shared their ideas with anyone, never tried colonizing anywhere other than their one small patch of land then inexplicably died without leaving a trace.

It's wholeheartedly retarded. Dofus is a laughingstock

>>15058464
No, nothing in the paper you posted supports that. The concentric circles are from different pieces of abrasive embedded in the drill. This has been replicated. See >>15058010

>>15058828
those who have replicated it haven't been successful, and always hand wave to the softer stones, they cant into greywracke and granite. Drills using torque leave threads, mini jackhammers leave concentric rings

the statement >and it is generally agreed that abrasives played a significant role
is a respect to the political sensibility, not the scientific reality

>>15058859
forgot link to their source (which, by the way, doesnt contain the verbage 'generally agreed' my pdf posted is the debate of lucas)

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.69404/page/n97/mode/2up

>>15058479
How does this respond to anything?

>>15058764
Apologize for lying and promise you will do better next time, moron.

>>15058763
Thanks for the reads, always find them interesting.

All those dna studies never broach further back into the old kingdom, I still cant find a white looking pharaoh from 2700 BC - 2104 BC

>>15058859
>those who have replicated it haven't been successful
They have relayed it in granite, concentric circles and all. You're ignoring what's right in front of your face. Read the article and stop lying.

>>15058877
>>15042720

>>15058895
Why do you keep posting images and links with no argument connecting anything to anything else? Are you going to respond to the fact that abrasives have been found in core holes, and the drilling technique with copper drills and abrasives has been replicated? You think unicorns are coming when you hear hoofbeats.

The history of humanity is not important. The future of humanity is.

>>15058907
>Why do you keep posting images and links with no argument connecting anything to anything else?
because it drives categorists crazy and is fuel for the seekers, who are the ones who create genuine opinion and just dont point to someone elses address space.

There is nothing stopping abrasives from being utilised in sonic drilling either, but did they find a supply chain for the hard enough ones inside the hardest stones, and where are these copper drill heads

vote Imhotep sole S+ class mathematician

>>15058934
>because it drives categorists crazy
It doesn't, it just makes you look ineffectual.

>There is nothing stopping abrasives from being utilised in sonic drilling either
There is nothing stopping leprechauns from using magic to move the abrasives around either. Horses, not unicorns. The Egyptians made images of drills with hand bows, not sonic drills, clown.

>but did they find a supply chain for the hard enough ones inside the hardest stones
How do you "find" a supply chain?

>where are these copper drill heads
They were worn down by drilling, and the remains were recycled to make new drills, so there wouldn't be used ones in the trash for us to find. Where are the sonic drills?

>>15058775
Not among the ayahuasca enjoyers, anon. Mike Cernovich has met some of these alien entities from beyond the veil and will tell you all about them.
I dunno, I've not taken as many drugs as Mike has, so you'll have to take it up with him.

>>15058962
>How do you "find" a supply chain?
Evidence of mining and moving such materials. See: shipwrecks of glass exports.

>>15054042
see also: Jordan Peterson

>>15058962
>It doesn't, it just makes you look ineffectual.
ineffectual to what ends? sharing sources for anons to develop their own opinions, presenting both sides, creating open questions?

Or driving a narrative to induce consent and inculcate compliance, to encourage tribal left-right thinking to imbibe divide and conquor mentality, to forward a corpocratic religious corpus?

>The Egyptians made images of drills with hand bows, not sonic drills, clown.
than my question in my first post is answered, that even anons here are not ready to question how a human beings can go 1000 years building all their signorage in crushed quartz and never once question why these lights light up piezoelectrically

>How do you "find" a supply chain?
Normally they leave quarries, tools and trinkets behind. From my researches to 'mass produce' diamond based abrasives would've taken sea faring vessels, as for the emery as well

>They were worn down by drilling, and the remains were recycled to make new drills, so there wouldn't be used ones in the trash for us to find. Where are the sonic drills?
100%, we have sonic drills >>15058464

>>15058969
I don't see why anyone liked him, unless the buzz surrounding him was entirely astroturfed. He's very obviously just doing containment to try and get disaffected young men to go along to get along instead of demanding change. His message is basically "conform and you might get scraps, be happy for that."

>>15052958
>no response to this
makes sense to me

>>15056370
not how that kind of geochronology works

>>15058965
>Evidence of mining and moving such materials.
Well archaeologists have found the materials in drill cores, so that's moot.

>>15059220
>Well archaeologists have found the materials in drill cores, so that's moot.
How many? In which places? How did the products compare with the disputed machining marks? Where is your proof that this was done on a widespread scale?

>>15058977
>ineffectual to what ends?
To making logical/sane conclusions.

>than my question in my first post is answered, that even anons here are not ready to question how a human beings can go 1000 years building all their signorage in crushed quartz and never once question why these lights light up piezoelectrically
You have no idea what they questioned. You're just spouting nonsense.

>Normally they leave quarries, tools and trinkets behind.
They left less valuable tools behind, not copper tools.

>From my researches to 'mass produce' diamond based abrasives would've taken sea faring vessels, as for the emery as well
They didn't need either. They had corundum and quartz abrasives.

>100%, we have sonic drills
No, we don't. Where are they? Where were they found? How were they dated? How do you know they were drills?

If you think physical scientist know fucking anything youre as retarded as they are.

>>15059226
>How many?
Several. See >>15058010. They had abrasives, and sand can drill through granite.

>How did the products compare with the disputed machining marks?
They replicate the drill marks. Where is your proof that sonic drills replicate anything, let alone existed?

>Where is your proof that this was done on a widespread scale?
They drilled on a widespread scale, and the drill markings are all similar to the ones with abrasives still there, and similar to the relocations. And they drew pictures of them doing it with handbows for fuck's sake. The simplest answer is that they used abrasives and copper drills. You're the one who needs proof that these are unicorns and not horses.

>>15059589
So... not retarded at all. What an intelligent comment. You really contributed a lot.

>>15059580
again categorist, they can cut them in stone all over their walls, but you cant see it, that would take shedding the predrawn conclusions you've internalized

>>15059609
So your have no response to the evidence of copper drills with abrasives, and no evidence of sonic drills. We're done here.

>>15042252
Even if something like this did happen, I’m not interested in Netflix pseudo-history drivel for normalfags

>>15043167

>Hancock points out that hunter-gatherers could not have built something, the major rebuttal is that it is racist to suggest that.

Fake argument
No one seriously claims that hunter-gatherers can’t build something or even that social organization came before farming/urbanization

The issue is that people DO study this stuff and no one will deride you from doing so, however grifters like handcock just take to the mainstream media and tabloids to huck total bullshit and make up fake claims of being oppressed by the “establishment” because they dare call out his total lies or nonsense theories.

>>15059701
>No one seriously claims that hunter-gatherers can’t build something
Except crackpots like Hancock, you mean.

>>15042252
Im not watching anything on netflix, but I dont need to, Im familiar with his stuff. He's wrong about some things, like the piri reis map, and drug stuff, but I believe he's right or almost right about most of it.

I wish him and randall would get with the thunderbolts project people and compare notes.

>>15059723
Can you give one example of something Hancock is right about?

>>15058878
i will do no such thing, suck my wee wee

>>15059843
You have no integrity. You just make shit up and then don't learn your lesson after getting BTFO. Kys

>>15059685
Posted the tuning forks, despite Egyptology cover up attempts, provided countless images to knowledge of light (ankh), resonsance (was), capacitance and memristivity (djed), the ram pump hypothesis, I solved piri Reis Rhum lines which you cant explain, face it your not looking for knowledge, your looking for someone with nukes to say if its authoritative or not

>>15059989
>Posted the tuning forks
You posted some guy claiming someone told him there were tuning forks. Where's the evidence?

As to the rest of your schizo nonsense, it's not even coherent enough to merit a response.

>>15059932
hahahahh1 SEETHING cuck

>>15060004
they're all some guy in the end, does it change it when you give them suits, fancy titles and a standing army?

>>15060006
Why did you lie about an article anyone can read? Do you have a mental illness?

>>15060065
>they're all some guy in the end
No. Pictures and objects are not some guy. Stop trying to equivocate.

>>15060131
Just to recap
in >>15042720
we show how ankh, was, djed, pyramid have a layer of understanding as electromagnetic principles. Ankh describes energy, was describes transverse wave, djed longitudinal waves, capacitance, memristivity, the pyramid, the source. For the most explicit definition of a sonic drill consult the image in the top right, whose heiroglphys are pyramid-ankh-djed-was as Horus and Seth hold down the drill as it pulses against the ground

>>15042782
We see tuning forks at the bottom of these staves pulse piezoelectric columns to the effect of emitting electromagnetic radiation represented as chains of ankh-was-ankh-was

>>15042784
we see knowledge of EMF fields as Horus bathes (not sure who) in a field of ankh-was (uncolored highlighting its invisibility

>>15042787
highlights djed as colums of piezo electric sintered quarts of differing electric permitivites and permeabilities, possibly with electret, and juxtaposes it to 2 centuries of memristive observations >>15054751

>>15043202
deserves a nobel prize if you get it, and an anon in a university should copy paste it to get massive credibility

>>15043364
shows how deep pre first intermediate period supply chains actually were

>>15058268
contains many more instances of the traces of piezoelectric-tuning fork meta, and the link contains a rap song that summarizes everything

>>15058287
is a smoking gun that shows pyramid stones were cast geopolymer, not cut stones, as their magnetic alignments are all the same, indicating they were set there

>>15060065
brings us down the rabbit hole of them working with radioactive materials and possessed methods of purifying isotopes

>>15060156
>we show how ankh, was, djed, pyramid have a layer of understanding as electromagnetic principles
No, you just assembled a bunch of pictures into a schizo collage.

>We see tuning forks at the bottom of these staves
No, that is a was-sceptre. The fork at the end represents the tail of the Set animal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_animal

There's no point in responding to the rest of your incoherent and counterfactual babble. You're mentally ill.

>>15060186
t unfamiliar with the concept of one symbol, 100 different levels of meaning. My encryption scheme is working

>>15060065
Egyptians made glass jewelry with naturally occurring minerals, some of which have higher levels of radioactivity than normal. Wow. This changes everything.

>>15060128
yes

>>15060198
A symbol can have infinite meanings if you just make them up, which is what you're doing.

>>15060214
I thought so. Take your meds.

>>15060217
no

>>15060213
>4-5x radiation levels
>after thousands of years
I'll leave it to you source this naturally, and I'll investigate Serapeum of Saqqara as a sonic nuclear isotope purification facility.

I'm not the first to do this either, see https://www.godelectric.org/

>>15060227
looks like it had water flowing down the stairs at some point

So what does everyone think about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K80JebExyEY

>>15060233
definitely gives me the same vibes as the pyramid ram pump hypothesis, makes me think the hieroglyphs were added after, supported by the lack thereof on the granite 'sarcophogi'

>>15043364
interesting stuff. do you have a link to the video this collage is pieced together from?

>>15060484
yup you bet, still my favourite theory of construction, not a big fan of their water drop centimeter, but i find everything points to good methods of inquiry
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=k2019+pyramid

>>15060490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAtkjy_YK4&t=11820

>>15060491
>afro-egyptians
lmao hoteps will go to any length won't they?

>>15060532
>lmao hoteps will go to any length won't they?
only the most based lengths
[math]\pi - \phi^2 \approx \frac{\pi}{6} \approx \frac{\phi^2}{5} \approx \frac{\pi + \phi^2}{11}[/math] using the most perfect 28

>>15060551
Egyptians weren't black. It's just that simple.

>>15060554
theres 3000 years of history in there, you've seen how much demographics can change in less than a generation.

pre-first intermediate period, i still cannot find a non-black look pharaoh

>>15060566
>pre-first intermediate period, i still cannot find a non-black look pharaoh
That only means you have no idea what phenotypes are, and should be ignored when you talk about them. The Egyptians portrayed themselves beating and enslaving sub-Saharan blacks in their art and considered them an inferior people. They portrayed themselves as olive-skinned.

>>15060576
I can only find that stuff after post annorum diluvium 1656 anno mundi, my theory is this was a global, multi ethnic, seafaring society, whose suzerainty was headquartered in Egypt, but disaster struck, the technology was scattered, a pre-bronze age collapse happened, and the hyksos/seapeoples consisting for ayrio-semetic phenotypes invaded the area bringing racial conflict in the power vacuum.

all those 'sandals standing on the enemy' and the 'cranium measuring device and the dick rubbing was mid kingdom or new kingdom

>>15060587
>my theory is this was a global, multi ethnic, seafaring society, whose suzerainty was headquartered in Egypt, but disaster struck, the technology was scattered, a pre-bronze age collapse happened, and the hyksos/seapeoples consisting for ayrio-semetic phenotypes invaded the area bringing racial conflict in the power vacuum.
Well you're a schizophrenic then, because if that were the case cultures worldwide would have stories of black fairies and black high gods. In the reality we live in, the real world, they only have stories of white gods and white fairies, and dark skin is seen as uncivilized in every part of the world.

>>15042252
>>15042296

bcause scientist did everything so human history on earth would fit bible narration
and they are paid by j3ws to hide the truth

imagine when next disaster of this kind will come
will you be granted a ticket to neoarc?

dobut it

>>15060594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOzizUhI2go

>because if that were the case cultures worldwide would have stories of black fairies and black high gods
Not necessarily, barring the black-olmec statues, one can see in shang and olmec renditions of hieroglyphica they performed localized renditions of their general principal, it should be no surprise that the clans race was put as king underneath the emperor in egypt

>>15060604
>more schizoid hotep videos
You just come across looking pathetic for wanting it this badly. The Olmec statues don't even look black. They don't have the ape-like prosopagnosia that characterizes the phenotype, their faces are flat. They look like Oceanian Pacific Islanders, who are of an Asiatic race.

>>15042252

dude theres no point in debating with these 5oyentists

i posted many interesting stuff here and got shamed

these fuckers are only able to spit some useless equations and ridicule everything whats really thoughtful

literally a bunch of homoerotic 5oyb0ys

if u want answers go to Reddit

>>15059723
why would you compare a map that allegedly (according to us airforce officials) portrays coastlines that are currently under water to the coastlines of today? seems a little disingenuous no?

>>15060623
lol

>>15060612
its just my conclusion from the evidences ive seen, this wide nose and face doesnt come from the americas originally if you want to believe the ancient scythian migration, they would've had to have come from Africa

>>15060633

>>15060636
See? It's just like I said here >>15060612. They're not even remotely African. These are Pacific Islanders, who are part of the Denisovan lineage of proto-human hominids.

>>15060779
denisovian link is tenuous based on only a couple of teeth

https://www.sciencealert.com/pacific-islanders-appear-to-be-carrying-the-dna-of-an-unknown-human-species

>And it could be that our identification of Denisovan DNA is more ambiguous than we think, given that our only source is a finger bone and a couple of teeth.

>https://www.natureasia.com/en/research/highlight/13654
>The Pacific region can be divided into Near Oceania, which includes Papua New Guinea, the Bismarck archipelago and the Solomon Islands, and Remote Oceania, which includes Micronesia, Santa Cruz, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Fiji and Polynesia. After humans migrated out of Africa, they settled in Near Oceania around 45,000 years ago. Remote Oceania was populated much later, around 3,200 years ago, which involved people journeying from what is now Taiwan.