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Why do oysters respond to the phases of the moon, even when isolated from the tide and moonlight?

>> No.15045736

>>15045684
The full moon is the moon at its biggest, and the oysters are responding to the increased gravitational pull

>> No.15045744
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>>15045736
I think you’re right. So why would such a small gravitational change have such a profound effect on such a simple creature, yet we don’t think similar changes in the positions of the planets, moon, and sun would have any effect on complex creatures like human beings?
I am skeptical of astrology but I find this particular issue hard to reconcile.

>> No.15045747

>>15045736
Not right about the full moon being biggest. But I do think the oysters are responding to gravitational changes. Just to be clear

>> No.15045784

>>15045744
>profound effect
they literally open a bit more

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>>15045784
That is literally all oysters are capable of doing. What more profound effect can you expect?

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>>15045684
Astrology is observing natural cycles and keeping track of them using celestial objects. It's not hogwash, but the retarded horoscope shittery done by women is the hoggest wash of them all

>> No.15045994

>>15045982
Okay, so let me rephrase the question: does it have any effect on peoples’ behavior? If not why not?

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>>15045994
Does the clock on the wall have an effect on the passage of time?

>> No.15046020

>>15046014
Okay let me hold your hand through the oyster example again…

>> No.15046040

>>15045747
But wouldn't they open up more then if you lift them up higher, since the gravitational potential would increase

>> No.15046044

>>15046040
Once they adjust to the change in Earth’s gravitational potential, they only respond to the moon. The movement from ocean to inland lab is a one off thing. Moon’s cycle is changing continuously

>> No.15046059

>>15046044
But how could they adjust to being taken like 8km high of they've never been there before
Someone should put an oyster in a box with a camera and send it up with a balloon

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>>15046059
Only Jesus knows the answer.

>> No.15046063

>>15045736
Why would this mean anything on its own? It's just recognizing a pattern at this point and relying on intuition. How can an object fall from itself?

>> No.15046065

>>15046063
>>15046014
>correlation doesn’t mean causation!!!1!
Okay but what DOES mean causation?

>> No.15046074

>>15046014
through the lens of human experience, absolutely

>> No.15046114

>>15046074
Well, in that sense the movement of the planet does have an influence on human behavior. If you read your daily horoscope and it says you're going to have a bad day, you will find something to fuck up.

>> No.15046223

>>15045815
death

>> No.15046229

>>15046014
the clock on the wall was made as a simpler way to keep track of the movement of the planets. So yes. moron

>> No.15046235

>>15046044
the arent responding to the gravity, they are responding to the magnetic fields, which in reality is the same thing but the people on this board are stupid so you can only talk about one specific thing at a time lest they get lost.

>> No.15046266

>>15045994
There's talk of it affecting labor and delivery, ER visits, etc., but supposedly study data debunks that.
This is a healthline link, and I feel a little cheap posting it, but it's relatively comprehensive and has links to several other studies. I think that studies in environments where humans haven't really been affected by artificial light sources would be optimal, but you take what you can get.
https://www.healthline.com/health/full-moon-effects#full-moon-and-mental-health

>> No.15046269

>>15046235
So let’s say it’s magnetic fields then. How does anything else about the argument change?

>> No.15046281

>>15046269
it doesnt. it is a known fact animals respond to magnetic fields (including humans), only an ignorant buffoon would claim otherwise.

>> No.15046289

>>15046281
Not wanting to be an ignorant buffoon, I won’t dare to contradict you. But they don’t respond to gravitational fields?

>> No.15046296

>>15046289
gravity and magnetism are two expressions of a single thing

>> No.15046306

>>15046296
KK.

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>>15045684
>Why do oysters respond to the phases of the moon
Every living thing does.

>> No.15046510

>>15046296
>gravity and magnetism are two expressions of a single thing
bwahahahahhahahaahahahhaha

>> No.15047024

Schaubergers family were loggers, and he said they did a lot of their work at night, especially during full moons, as the logs were more buoyant
He also said that trees were more flame retardant during full moons

Probably something to do with "behavioral changes" of water during different lunar cycles

>> No.15047028

>>15046266
Menstrual cycle spacing correlates with full moon cycles at around 28 days

>> No.15047032

>>15045684
because like plenty of other animals oysters have internal biological clocks
>>15045736
assburgers

>> No.15047039

>>15046065
lots of correlations. muh mechanisms is just a human cope to compress lots of useful data into something intelligible for our brains.
all science is correlation = causation with extra steps.

>> No.15047061

>>15046223
>look up
>waxing gibbous
>guess_i'll_die.jpg