/sci/ - Science & Math

I suppose on way of doing this would be to lock every black male and female in chastity devices at birth until they pass a certain test. The intelligent individuals will be allowed out of the cages.

>>15037478
it's called bleaching

>>15037478
We just need secure access to water, food, shelter and education.

>>15037509
The Black community has that now. Why are they still dumb?

>>15037491
Yeah...no, that shit clearly doesn't work since you have Immigrant blacks from Nigeria and other countries outcompeting Africa Americans academically and economically on average. The admix angle is faulty.

>>15037478
IQ isn't the problem, the problem is subsidizing poor behavior and lifestyles with government funds. The government would rather rewarding single mothers instead of parents who actually raise kids to study and do schooling appropriately.

>>15037478
Be careful. Do you want intelligent or (((intelligent)))?
Intelligence is a white man's burden that involves self-sacrifice, group trust and planning for a better long term society.
(((Intelligence))) is leecherous and requires a sustainable goyim population to extract from. If the goyim are already poor, it turns into african warlord ooga booga shenanigans.
The smartest Africans I've ever met were (((intelligent)))

>>15037523
They don't.
>>15037528
(You) are retarded.

>>15037478
No but we could make them white. In fact, judging by the fact that every non-white culture deems white people as more attractive (blacks going for lighter tone black, indians same, asians doing cosmetic surgeries) I'm pretty sure non-whites will genetically engineer themselves out of existence as soon as it becomes possible

99% of the world will be white because nonwhites will bleach their children

>>15037646
Black people do have access to water, food, shelter, and education. They are even given preferential treatment in education. Food stamps, public water fountains, and section 8 cover the rest.

>>15037478
intelligence is a pretty complicated facet of human beings but some form of eugenics could be instituted towards this end, ethical considerations notwithstanding. However racism is not rooted on this trait, rather it is used as an excuse to perpetuate the attitudes and beliefs we associate with the umbrella term 'racism'.

>>15037478
We don't have to make them intelligent if there are no niggers. Racism would be solved too.

>>15037983
What people call "racism" is just a natural revulsion towards shitty behavior.

>>15037478
sooo make them white
yes that would work

>>15038095
Racism can be positive as well e.g. 'Asians are naturally good at math'. Neither the intention or effects need be harmfully discriminatory. But the largest complaints against racist behavior do fall into the type of reaction you're alluding to, generally.

>>15037478
> thus solving racism?
Lol

>>15037478
>solving racism
What is there to solve? There will always be racism, since racism is a natural evolutionary measure of all humans and other animal species to protect their genetic integrity and prevent cross contamination of genetic disorders and diseases.

Those cultures who are not racist and don't kill off their invaders, become extinct.

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>>15037976
>education

>>15037525
The immigrants coming from Africa are the ones that are the upper class in those countries. And since it’s well known that your iq has a significant influence on your income, these people coming over will obviously outperform the black Americans

>>15038457
The only way you can reach the upper class in Africa is by becoming a tribal warlord.

>>15038467
Eh, yeah, sure, but the point stands anyways. The average Nigerian outperforms the average black American, but still makes less than the average white American

>>15038457
>>15038485

You're missing the point. The difference in IQ should have been made up due to their admixture. African Americans are supposed to have on average 20-24% European dna.

And they are on average still getting outcompeted by black immigrants from Africa.

>>15038531
The admixture only gives them like 4 or 5 extra iq points, plus they were essentially a general sample of west and Central Africans cause they would just sell anyone they could get their hands on to the Europeans. Compare this to the uppper echelons of African societies sending their kids off to study and live in America, it makes sense

>>15038546
If you spend any time at all thinking about how slavery works you'll realize that the people getting enslaved are not the smart ones.

>>15038554
They would sell off people they conquered in tribal conflicts

>>15037478
https://patch.com/new-jersey/newarknj/afrika-s-imhotep-world-s-first-genius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAtkjy_YK4&t=11820

I laugh at the nerve at below replacement rate cultures to have the gall to call above replacement rate cultures 'less intelligent' your not a computer, your a human being.

Game goes like this, your more likely to score higher than average if your born white, but if you want to hit the top, you gotta be black

now, back to imhoteps school with us, before we go extinct

>>15037478
just put sterilizing agents in dey fried chickums. problem solves itself.

>>15037478
Intelligence doesn’t come from genetics. Every human has the same potential to be intelligent as long as they put dedication and effort into it.
But there’s very few occasions where autism can actually make a human more intelligent and super focused on problem solving.

>>15040340
>Intelligence doesn’t come from genetics. Every human has the same potential to be intelligent as long as they put dedication and effort into it.
Cringe and bluepilled.

>>15040340
He's right. There is absolutely nothing special genetically about people like Einstein, Mozart, Beethoven, Gauss, Newton, Euler. They were just regular folk who happened to be in the right environment at the right time. Put those same people in different circumstances and they would would not achieve anything.

>>15040340
And if, in the their wisdom, they decide they are better off without temporality and magnitude, what then?

Is it not eurocentric to define intelligence in such narrow terms?

>>15038225
>Emmy Lanning Shockley (m. 1955–1989)
Just about everybody was racist while he was alive.

>>15040375
>Albert Einstein: As a child, he experienced severe speech delays and later echolalia, or the habit of repeating sentences to himself. And of course, there is the fact that Einstein was incredibly technical. Such characteristics have led many experts to conclude that he appeared somewhere on the autism spectrum.

>>15037478
Help with their diet, sterilize them because they don't have enough money to buy nutritiois food plus they won't be able to stimulate babies if they lack time to play with them.
They will evolve
>>15037491
Too many

>>15038225
>what is Flynn Effect
The black-white IQ gap has been closing for the last 50 years. Median black IQ was 70 in the 1960s.

>>15040437
Whoops, flynn doesn't load on g! Try again. libtard.

>>15040340
Fuck off with this 1960s blank slatist garbage. The heritability of adult IQ is 0.7-0.8. Identical twins raised in wildly different environments end up mostly the same by the end of puberty. We've found 100s of DNA markers for intelligence, and genome sequencing research is just getting started. Nature won the nature-nurture debate a decade ago.

>>15040375
Gauss grew up poor and was only recognized because of his exceptional talent. He was so mathematically gifted that he had scores of unpublished results that weren't independently derived for 50 years. Hell, he derived the fast Fourier transform before Fourier himself even derived the regular Fourier transform.

No matter how much you delusional midwits lie to yourselves, you will never be able to overcome your genetic mediocrity

>>15040453
Yes, but how do you know it wasn't something in his environment that cause him to become so gifted? You can't just assume it's genetic. There's no proof. It's much more reasonable to assume that all humans have equal potential.

>>15040459
>It's much more reasonable to assume that all humans have equal potential.
It's not, really.

>>15040418
>Too many

>>15037646
What the fuck? You can upload PDFs to /sci/? Nice

>>15040453
>No matter how much you delusional midwits lie to yourselves, you will never be able to overcome your genetic mediocrity

>I CAN'T BREED

>>15040389
>>Emmy Lanning Shockley (m. 1955–1989)
>Just about everybody was racist while he was alive.
Just about everybody was more honest when he was alive.

Science was still science, and wasn't concerned with "feelings" or "wayyysisssms" and all that garbage.

>>15040437
>The black-white IQ gap has been closing for the last 50 years. Median black IQ was 70 in the 1960s.
Yeah, because whites are getting dumber.

>>15040539
Did you even look at the graph?

>>15037478
No because racism is not based in logic. Racists will hate them regardless because of the delusions they've created in their own head

>>15040459
Damn, man, you can't even fucking read. Let me try again:

>Fuck off with this 1960s blank slatist garbage. The heritability of adult IQ is 0.7-0.8. Identical twins raised in wildly different environments end up mostly the same by the end of puberty. We've found 100s of DNA markers for intelligence, and genome sequencing research is just getting started. Nature won the nature-nurture debate a decade ago.

>>15040544
>the graph?
yeah, it is meaningless graph that could be applied to any IQ topic, not a scientific one.

See, I made one also. My graph is superior!

>>15040554
>racism is not based in logic.
that has to be one of the most idiotic things ever said on here.

Racism is an evolutionary necessity. To deny its benefits is to destroy your own culture and genetics.

>>15037478
Sub-Saharan Africans have some of the greatest genetic diversity but also have some of the lowest frequencies for various genes associated with intelligence. They are the perfect candidates for improvement through eugenics (and without the need for "bleaching").

>>15040437
The gap hasn’t closed whatsoever, it’s been 15 since the tests started, James flynn himself said the causes of the flynn effect are completely independent of the causes of the black white iq gap

>>15037478
It is not possible to use genetic engineering to make any specific racial or ethnic group more intelligent. Intelligence is a complex trait that is influenced by many factors, including genetics, environment, and education. It is not possible to isolate a single gene or set of genes that determine intelligence, and attempting to do so would be unethical and potentially harmful.

Furthermore, the idea of using genetic engineering to "solve" racism is misguided and dangerous. Racism is a social and cultural problem, not a genetic one. It is based on prejudice and discrimination, not on differences in genetic makeup. Attempting to use genetic engineering to "fix" racism would not only be ineffective, but it could also reinforce harmful stereotypes and perpetuate discrimination.

Instead of trying to use genetic engineering to "solve" racism, we should focus on addressing the root causes of racism and promoting equality and social justice. This means challenging and confronting racism in all its forms, and working to create a society where everyone is treated with dignity and respect, regardless of their race or ethnicity.

>>15040660
ChatGPT response

>>15040666
correct, the devil would know.
how would we fix chatgpt so it doesn't sound like reddit?

>>15040615
>Racism is an evolutionary necessity
Ridiculous cope. Don't pretend the fear of brown people living in one's country is based in science. There's nothing logical about racism. Humans are tribalistic and discriminating is part of human nature, but discrimination itself is not just racism. And just because it's part of human nature does not make it completely rational, especially in our current age.
There's nothing logical about hating a person minding their business because /pol/ showed you some webms of someone from his race committing crimes (as if what we define as criminal behaviour can't be argued to be a part of human behaviour as well)

>>15037478
it would only make their violence more effective

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBaPJ9houyc

>>15037478
We could genetically engineer them to have IQs of 600 and small-town poverse nobodies would still be racist against them.

>>15040759
If they had 600 IQs they wouldn't be murderous and thieving so nobody would care anymore.

>>15040759
Well, to be fair, both low intelligence and absurdly high intelligence are legitimate grounds for othering. Both are noticable deviations from the norm.

What you'd want is intelligence similarity.

>>15040752
i call black people niggers in public if i think i can get away with it

>>15040655
'Closing', not 'closed'. Try reading next time, retard.

>>15040814
it has barely closed at all. i call black people niggers in public btw

>>15040655
> flynn himself said the causes of the flynn effect are completely independent of the causes of the black white iq gap
Oh you’re such a fucking liar lol
https://youtu.be/TbeEyh56GVk

>>15040854
> it has barely closed at all
It’s literally a whole standard deviation smaller.

>>15037478
Pthalatzs

>>15040752
>Don't pretend the fear of brown people
KEK! Nobody fears them except you it seems.

People don't fear shit on the sidewalk, people just don't want to step in it.

People don't fear garbage because they throw it away, they just don't have a use for it anymore.

People don't fear mosquitos, the most deadly insect to humanity, they just find them bothersome and want them gone.

>>15040925
>every single historic example of anti-minority violence aligns with the dictionary definition of fear and anxiety
>"around blacks, never relax"
>n-no i-its not ffear t-t-they're just i-insects
Cope harder, faggot.

>>15040459
>>During his short life, Ramanujan independently compiled nearly 3,900 results (mostly identities and equations).
And that's with zero formal training in math. Do you think it's his street shitting environment that made him a genius? Meanwhile, no math genius has ever been born in subsaharan Africa or Arabia. Do you need to have everything spoonfed to you?

>>15037478
Then theyd still be ugly

>>15041314
Do you think it's his street shitting environment that made him a genius?
Maybe, yeah. Maybe there was some fungus or bacteria that entered his brain and caused some weird shit to happen and caused him to be obsessed with math. You just can't assume it's genetic without proof.

>>15041314
> Meanwhile, no math genius has ever been born in subsaharan Africa or Arabia

>>15042369
>>15038583
Imhotep was revered for 1000's of years as the patron deity of the egyptian mystery schools by which all the greek philosophers trained, and which all subsequent "intellectuals" just copy-pasted and maybe added one or two same-same but different things.

One was able to create math from nothing but sticks and stones, willed purely from his own mind with no lobster status games or big ticket pay cheque salaries.

https://www.givemehistory.com/imhotep

>>15042383
Are you suggesting that the olive-skinned, blue-eyed Celtic-haplogroup Egyptians were black?

>>15042387
> olive-skinned, blue-eyed
They weren’t “black”, but come on now nigga

>>15042397
There's a very clear distinction in the way they display themselves (olive skinned using ochre pigment) and their black Nubian subjects (jet black skinned subservient and pleading slaves). The Egyptians depicted themselves as a clearly lighter-skinned people than their neighbors.

>>15042387
thats the Egypt that came after the deluge that ushered in the first intermediate period, a pre-bronze age collapse that saw many skin colours make their way to the nile as sea peoples.

Current theory is this caused regional instability, and racial and tribal conflict that characterized the newer kingdoms

can you find one old kingdom pharaoh that doesnt look black?

I cant, i went through all the wiki pages

>>15042405
>can you find one old kingdom pharaoh that doesnt look black?
None of them "look black." Egyptians depict sub-saharan negroes as prosopagnosic chimp-apemen.

>>15040955
>>every single historic example of anti-minority violence aligns with the dictionary definition of fear and anxiety
Wow, you are really delusional with your projections.
LMAO!
Nobody is scared of them except suburban white women. That's why they stay the fuck out of redneck areas, cause they know how dangerous it is for them to misbehave in them. I remember my granddad shooting one and stringing him up once, that tried to steal some farm equipment. His deputy sheriff brother came and took the body away the next day.
Simple self-defense against scum.

>>15042405
>wiki pages
kek, moron.

>>15037478
If you are so intelligent yourself,what are the biological judtifications that justify correlations between melanin rate and neurons efficiency?

>Be black
>Read a thread about retards seething about blacks being dumb and violent cause of genetics and evolution.
>While I have a good paying job, never committed a crime and doing better than whites today.

God people are so fucking retarded it hurts.

>>15037528
>>15037509
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>>15042400
>>15042383

>>15042899
Exceptions don’t disprove rules anon, in fact it’s the opposite.

>>15043093
the whole of social "science" is plagued by exceptions, and biases.

>>15043093
>lets discriminate against a race that had no choice in being born with their genetics and I.Q that's been enslaved, withdrawn from reading and segregated.

Being black has to be a blackpill because of how much shit they get nowadays, it's pretty depressing and we don't need to belittle them any further.

>>15037478
The average racial IQs are shit across the board, desu. Yeah, 100 is better than an SD or two below, but it's still fucking shit.

>>15042899
The problem isn't black people, the problem is stupid black hood rats.
Racism would be solved so fast if these anons thought like this instead of usibg fallacious, dumb shortcuts.

>>15042908
>>15038583
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAtkjy_YK4&t=11820 [Embed]

>>15043115
IQ is malleable in populations over time. Research the Flynn Effect.

It's literally impossible. If you were to artificially raise their IQs above 90 you would notice their skin becoming lighter and their hair straightening out.

>>15043115
That's a nice idea that I think nearly everyone would agree with in a universe where actions don't have unintended side effects.

>>15040613
Kek! Looks as legit as the other one.

>>15043860
>If you were to artificially raise their IQs above 90 you would notice their skin becoming lighter and their hair straightening out.
I kek'd, as it would probably be true! Was a cartoon showing that exact thing decades ago.

>>15042899
they keep hammering the race drum so people don't realize the actual IQ-crippling inheritance is the wealth of the population, not genetics (hence admixture doing nothing compared to the immigrants who are biased towards the wealthy).

they want to blame IQ for wealth because it's core to the neoliberal illusion of capitalism being a meritocracy. truth is, inheritance of any kind breaks the meritocracy unless it's genetic predisposition, and they can't make that compatible with the fact that admixture isn't increasing "merit", so they're freaking out and inventing new concepts of "microaggression cultural oppression" to smokescreen the actual oppression of those who inherited wealth against those who did not.

the average poor single black woman has a dangerously high amount of shared experience to the average poor white man, and it's imperative to the wealthy elites that neither of them set aside their differences to unite against the elites whose system causes that oppression. this means forcing them to focus on identity politics. it's not working as well as it used to, and the internet is starting to erode the ability to keep the poors at each others' throats - hence the current attempt to smear the internet as "full of disinformation"

>>15044078
Interesting post anon. Tend to agree with most of it.

>>15043882
See the Russian fox experiment. Intelligence = less melanin.

>>15042899
>Be black
>Read a thread in which people claim that blacks are on average retards with an inflated ego
>Make a post immediately confirming it
Great job nigger

>>15044078
mah comrade
bourgeoisie bad

https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

https://www.academia.edu/39797871/Common_Misapplications_and_Misinterpretations_of_Correlation_in_Social_Science_

>>15045276
This is literally me lol. I look identical to him.

>>15044078
This is completely false becuase the African immigrants immigrating to the US are a.ready the smartest band of people in their native country. As well as this, we can study people who won the lottery or other large cash prizes, and generally within 3 generations the family line is back where it was beforehand