/sci/ - Science & Math

how tf are we supposed to do that

I'm stuck on this too. I know they shoot down drones but you could probably manage to drop a really tiny gopro on there. I guess it's just not a priority

>>15040824
Just send the drone at night

>>15040824
Just send a bunch of drones, they can’t shoot all of them simultaneously.
But why disturb and traumatize perfectly healthy people and create an event that may question your ethical believes.

>>15040842
That's basically what I meant by "it's not a priority". We probably /could/ pull it off, but who benefits? What's the point besides bothering some strangers?

>>15040842
>But why disturb and traumatize perfectly healthy people
How can you call them healthy when they lack access to basic health services like assisted suicide and gender affirming medical care. The UN needs to take charge of the situation.

>>15040901
Aren't their immune systems 2000 years behind? How would they react to the vax?

>>15040952
Immune systems are a right-wing talking point.

I am curious how they live and what they do. how their women look. its crazy to think there is a human culture right now that we know nothing about,

>>15040802
With a drone

>>15040962
It's just a super duper tiny group of people. Almost nothing compared to 8 BILLION people. Almost like from some kind of horror movie where a psychopath makes a human experiment leaving a bunch of people on a small private island.

Parachute in under the cover of night. Last man standing wins.

What they should do is drop a bunch of necklaces down on them with little cameras in the beads or whatever and get tons of interesting info (or otherwise send them little cameras until they use them as jewelry)

My problem is the ethical dilemma. Is it even moral to watch people in such a voyeuristic manner, for scientific reasons? Why couldn’t our governments give CIA access to a grad student in psyc to see what porn people ACTUALLY watch?

Don’t get me wrong, it’s the principle I care about as an intellectual endeavour. People do immoral shit all the time. But I really think about these guys and think that by observing them we open the doors to treating people (no matter how unimportant) like animals. The best moral solution would be to make contact, but that doesn’t make it the ipso facto best idea.

>>15041015
>My problem is the ethical dilemma. Is it even moral to watch people in such a voyeuristic manner, for scientific reasons?
no

but we would get a bunch of really good info so fuck it

is it ethical to torture animals to death to test cosmetics or anything else?

we know it's not but we dont care

>>15041012
>What they should do is drop a bunch of necklaces down on them with little cameras in the beads or whatever and get tons of interesting info (or otherwise send them little cameras until they use them as jewelry)
imagine if the casio were a little camera

then we can say "we just put some cameras out it's not our fault if they wore them and recorded their whole lives for us"

>>15040802
Get some tips from Attenborough.

>>15041015
>Why couldn’t our governments give CIA access to a grad student in psyc to see what porn people ACTUALLY watch?
CIA already has backdoors into mindgeek and every other tech company, of course they analyze people's porn viewing habits with their government analytics systems, pornhub has always been about postings stats about which countries watch what fetish and what the top terms are for each state, its not like they go to great lengths to hide their voyeurism.

>>15040967
Precisely why we should at least put some microphones close enough to hear their language, in case a typhoon or whatever wipes them the fuck out.

>>15040785
>Just send the drone at night
and who will change the batteries?

>>15040802
we used to air drop flyers over gook countries telling them we were going to bomb them.
We can weather balloon some surveillance equipment in easy.

>>15040785
They would find the cameras and eat them.
You will be legally responsible if somethi9ng happens to them.
They can freely kill you without any repercussion though.

>>15040785
>NO HECKIN WAY THEY ACTUALLY EAT SLEEP AND FUCK LIKE US WOOOOOOOW!!!!

I would just airdrop them some guns and explosives

>>15040999
based zoomer

>>15040842
>But why disturb and traumatize perfectly healthy people and create an event that may question your ethical believes.
Shut up faggot

>>15041337
but he has a point
who fucking cares about them? they've got their own little country and they want everyone else to fuck off. if they all kick the bucket to some storm or famine or disease its not none of our business
its just a waste of time and resources. at best you find out that they just hunt, eat, sleep and fuck like any other indigenous population and at worst you accidentally kill them all

>>15041339
>not none
that's a nasty typo, obviously meant not any

>>15041339
I care. I want to learn about what language they speak.

>>15041171
the sun

>>15040901
I personally find it antisemitic that they haven’t allowed Jews into their society yet.

>>15040785
let me tell you what i wanna do to them...

why are they so mean

>>15040785
Why don't we sedate them, send them to a habitat on the moon and turn it into a reality tv show.

>>15040785
Why don't we just leave them the fuck alone?

>>15040826
Or, hear me out, a whole flock of drones

>>15040785
Anything you smuggle there could be contaminated with something that could wipe out that whole population.

>>15041190
So based

>>15040785
just go to the detroit it's the exact same

>>15040785
Seen one small tribe, seen em all. Literally not worth the cost of the equipment. There's nothing to learn from them. And interfering might just make them sick, so best to just leave them alone.

>>15040785
It is not ethical to invade the privacy of the North Sentinel island tribe by hiding cameras on their land. The tribe has lived in isolation for thousands of years and has not had contact with the outside world. They have not been exposed to modern diseases and their immune systems may not be able to handle contact with outsiders. Additionally, the tribe has made it clear that they do not want contact with the outside world. In 2006, two fishermen who landed on the island were killed by the tribe. For these reasons, it is important to respect the tribe's wishes and avoid contact with them.

>>15043273
Fuck that. They struck first. Did you know that those fishermens bodies are still there on the island. The fucking savages won't even allow anyone to collect them. That's not fair on their families. If I was leader of a nearby nation, say India, I'd literally send the army in and kill every last one of them in revenge for the fishermen.

>>15041354
Ooga booga boogie boo

>>15041644
>my thoughts exactly

imagine aliums having fun with people like that
their sides on the orbit

>>15040785
we only have Africa. what new info will we gain studying them?

>>15040785
we already have Africa. what new info will we gain studying them?

>>15043852
africa was way ahead of these guys

>>15040785
they look so silly and gooberish in this image

>>15040785
what's there to study?

>primitive people hunt and gather to survive
damn

>>15041184
True. What would make primitives interesting?

>>15043918
them black us white hehehe

>>15043919
The antediluvian ruins hidden within their jungle.

>>15040785
Why aren't we just purging that filth from the island?

>>15043273
>The tribe has lived in isolation for thousands of years and has not had contact with the outside world
Even more reason to conquer and subjugate them to the Spanish crown and convert them to Catholicism. I suspect they'd be good catholics.

>>15044123
>sentinelese immigrants
no thanks.

>>15040785
my people also practice cannibalism

>>15040785
What is to be gained?
What questions would you have for them?
>Why do uncivilized/unevolved creatures behave aggressively toward flying devices?
>Why are they still primitive tool users?
>Why are they still naked?
I mean who even gives a shit, the only question I have is what their average lifespan is, and if it comes close to the modern day average bedroom jar-fart sniffing Redditor then I'll be god damned

>>15040962
Didn't they become isolated because their women were sold off as slaves or some shit by another tribe? Might be thinking of some other tribe.

>>15044527
>What is to be gained?
Think of them like a control group in the human experiment. A lot of psychology and other things we could observe in what is now the last primitive humans. Also genetics and evolution aspect.
>What questions would you have for them?
Their culture, beliefs, religion, language, how they general see the world and us, how they view our planes and boats and us in general and their general world view.
>I mean who even gives a shit, the only question I have is what their average lifespan is, and if it comes close to the modern day average bedroom jar-fart sniffing Redditor then I'll be god damned
my guess is its brutally short, but yeah i'd be just as surprised if they lived long and would want to know their health secrets.

n1c about the social sciences

>>15040842
They are basically a backup for humanity if anything goes wrong with other people in the modern world. The fact that they live on an island is perfect because they are less likely to be affected by anything happening on the continents.
Imagine if Covid wiped out everyone except them, there would still be a chance for earth repopulation.

>>15043259
Not true

>>15045273
What can we learn from a culture with no desire for exploration or innovation? They just hunt, eat, sleep and fuck.

>>15045280
How do you know? Been there?

>>15045288
Worthless tranny

>>15045280
What if that's just for show? and they have an underground lab where they harbor aliens and alien technology?

>>15041644
I really like this idea. Better yet, put cameras and microphones all over the island at night. This would need to be done over a very long period, using already installed cameras the make sure everything is safe as they install new cameras (there needs to be underground cabling and such, to keep cameras powered.

Then we could do religion tests. Make one of them meet and angel, or something, kidnap him/her during night and give them a revelation, put them to sleep, and put them back. See how the rest of the group reacts... Give prophesies of weather in their "dreams", and so on.

Then after sufficient data is gathered, we do the drone light show.

Everything obviously live streamed and commercialized on "TV".

>>15045307
Shut the fuck up worthless talentless nigger loving degenerate

We should observe them and only intervene when they start developing something similar to our commodity-society. We mustn't allow any sort of higher consciousness to emerge. It is our duty to prevent people to experience the horrors we do.

>>15041382
The Jewish population on North Sentinel island was estimated to be 6 million in 1939.

>>15045288
They're still primitive and still confined to a small island, so they either have no desire for those things, or no capability.

>>15045280
>They just hunt, eat, sleep and fuck.
Sounds like we can learn a lot from them.

>>15041015
I don't think monitoring them (necessarily) violates the prime directive. Yeah if it's solely prurient interest but not if we're merely observing to assess their readiness to join our Federation.

>>15041506

>>15045321
Fuck that. I wasn't allowed to opt out of industrial society so why should they. They're not even uncontacted, they're just violent niggers who so far have been dealt with by trying to avoid them as much as possible.

>>15040785
i wish there was a society like this but just a bit more advanced like medieval area. They reject technology and the women were chaste. It be like going into an isekai...just without any magic.

>>15041024
>then we can say "we just put some cameras out it's not our fault if they wore them and recorded their whole lives for us"

imagien some alien is doing this. looking at us from some transdimensional plane. we cant see or perceive but they can operate.

>>15047362
Join the amish, anon

>>15040785
That island formally belongs to indonesia so it's up to them to decide, for now their decision is to not interfere.
Technically it wouldn't be that difficult, for example troops with bulletproof vests and night vision googles could probably land safely at night and install equipment, or other solutions already addressed.
It's not incredibly interesting from a purely scientific point of view, we have already studied primitive tribes.

>>15047601
>Indonesia
It's actually India, my mistake.

>>15040785
why don't we hide some cameras in your home and study you?
fucking asshole, mind your own goddamn business.

>>15047601
>bulletproof vests
they don't have guns.
bulletproof vests aren't stab proof.

>>15040785
I have a better idea. Send in some Catholic missionaries and make them all convert to Christianity.

>>15047647
Would you still be considersate to them if it were your family members they killed in cold blood?

>>15047854
You mean the trespassers they killed?

>>15040824
they shoot down low flying quadros
I doubt they could hit anything 30m above ground with their stone age bows
just use a real UAV and you could watch them without them even noticing it
you could have a fucking internet show about them broadcasting live all day with night vision for 24/7 coverage

>>15041177
>we used to do something overt with the aim of being seen
>therefore it's just the same as doing something covert with the exact opposite intention

>>15047686
only if you send them in one at a time.

>>15040785
Because that would ruin everything. North Sentinel Island is where the (((powers that be))) are headquartered, and they've gone to great lengths to convince the world it's a dangerous place filled with natives who should be left alone.

>>15040785
Fuck that. Just put me in a suit of armor and ill act as their videographer

>>15049175
This is so simple it just might work. An old suit of medieval metal armor would have their arrows bounce off, just slowly walk at them and hope they accept that you are a god.

>>15045231
>Imagine if Covid wiped out everyone except them

>>15041360
Sun don't work at night tho.

tell me about their women, why do they wear the mustache

What are they hiding on their island?
Have they found alien glowing technology and use it to start fires?

>>15045307
the primitive people are just a psyop at this point, all the major black-ops research is done under that island and nobody can go near it because a bunch of crazed poo people are going to stab them to death

what if we lowered a team of scientists atop flaming metal motorcycles in suits of armor armed with flamethrowers and they converted them to the cult of the painkiller

>>15049302
TEDDY ROOSEVELT

>>15045312
This sounds awesome anon
Too bad libs would oppose it

i want to impregnate their women

>>15041382
Yes, if they do not become multicultural soon, I'm afraid they will not survive. We must take it upon ourselves to do the right thing and save them.

>>15044618
You generously overestimate them, they are extremely simplistic people not aware of anything besides their customs, they are a half-animal in mental capacity. We saw all this from primitive african tribes, which were also more advanced than these isolationists were.

You guys are aware that the North Sentinelese are not "uncontacted" but that they only became extremely hostile to outsiders after a weird British paedophile tried to "civilise" them, right? Feels like that bit of info is missing from a lot of analyses ITT.

why have they decided to attack us instead of venerate us or at least be curious about us?

>>15053311
yeah i read that on wiki. Technically they are not "uncontacted". There was even a military at some point that came in and kicked ass and took some slaves.

Another time there was brief friendly contact and a lot of them died from disease. Perhaps they have learned their lesson, all we know now is that they violently attack anyone who comes close.

>>15043273
Is this a chatgpt post?

>>15047650
Many of them are especially the tactical and ballistic style bulletproof vests.
https://bulletproofzone.com/collections/bulletproof-vests/products/ace-link-armor-level-iiia-primer-bullet-and-stab-proof-vest

>>15047647
Western countries just call those types of spy gadgets cell phones.

>>15045231
>what is rising sea levels from climate change?

Because we can't even fool retarded animals with those cameras, much less humans. And what the fuck would be the point anyway? Odds are they live like other primitive peoples, there's nothing unique about them other than that we haven't started giving them t-shirts yet.

>HOT_TRIBESMAN_JUNGLE_SEX.mp4

>live on small island with tribe
>joggers bring technology
>go on 4chan
>faggots posting pics of my people naked
>fuck you

we ought to drop a boatload of marines and excavate the island. These people will not keep their knowledge hidden from us

>>15054324
Fear of the white man has probably ingrained itself into their mythology having known other tribes that were wiped out by invaders.

There could be ancient ruins of an even older culture of which they are the remanents and they could be destroying all of it while we do nothing about it. You jail people for damaging ancient artifacts, this is no different.

>>15057069
>There could be
And you could not be a faggot.

>>15040785
Why not just get 20 guys and conquer the island for the fun of it?

>>15056944
lol

>>15056960
Those ones are not the real problem. The ones who watch them do it, know what they do is evil, and then don't kill them to stop them are the real problem.

>>15041015
According to Star Trek, it is ethical to do so.

>>15043273
This Post Was Written By A First Generation AI Text Generator.
Thank you For Reading, Human.

>>15040785
>study them
for what reason?

They aren't really as isolated as people on this board think, a lot of men actually work illegally in construction/forest clearing etc employed by corrupt sub-subcontractors, they get shit pay and are exploited, the whole aggresion towards outsiders is just like behaviour of any other black tribe, go to africa and you will find tribes like that who are very aggressive towards foreigners and still live in mudhuts but who aren't really isolated or clueless about the world. To some extent amish are the same except they don't kill outsiders.

>>15057069
That makes me curious what species of animals they have.

>>15041601
Wouldn’t they just panic, try to escape through the airlock, and get themselves killed by the vacuum of space?

>>15045312
>at night
They probably have quite the night vision tho, because they don’t even use fire.

>>15040962
>its crazy to think there is a human culture right now that we know nothing about
What's crazy about it? There were other unknown tribes in the 20th century.

>>15043284
Fuck them and fuck their families.

>>15041177
pretty sure they would notice the air drops

>>15057883
they do use fires. at least in the past. there was a a boat that came by the island that said there were many lights on the shore

>>15041024
>>15041012
what's going on?

It's all fun and games until you piss off their leader and he turns into a 1 kilometre long eldritch abomination who flattens the rest of the earth with his army of ten million colossal titans

>>15058928
What do you mean? The tribe name is in the filename. Presumably they collect shiny junk to use as jewelry. The bottlecaps look to be a common thing for them, but the lip piercing with feather seems relatively uncommon. Interesting people.

>>15040826
They're noisy.

>>15041012
>perfect teeth
Unsurprising, I hate the "modern" diet so much.

>>15040785
This thread is proof that humans will not leave shit alone.
These uncontacted peoples are the last link to the old ways and you just want to fuck with them.
You sever the link to the past.

>>15059645
High up in the sky they can't be heard.
You ever see the videos of the Russians sitting around in a trench smoking before a grenade drops on their head? They can't hear shit if it's so high up.

>>15059684
why dont animals need to clean their teeth but humans do?
how does a tribal woman have perfect teeth without having access to hygiene products?

>>15040785
or we could just nuke the hell out of them

>>15040802
Just send a navy seal.

>>15041012
>>15041024
>>15058974
Why do these feel A.I. generated? Is anyone else getting that vibe?

>>15060984
sugar

>>15061008
the indian navy would nuke you right back

>>15061108
I dont trust most images now, everything feels ai generated.
The future is scary bros.

>>15040785
new world bacteria would probably wipe them out

>>15040894
>What's the point besides bothering some strangers?
that's just what we do. we are America. we will stick our dicks into your business and fucking rape you and your entire civilization in every hole. because that's just what we do. dont like it? that makes you an anti-semetic racist lgbtq-hating terrorist

>They continue to resist all contact with outsiders, attacking anyone who comes near.
I wonder what made them so hostile towards outsiders.

>>15041012
This is a good way to do it.
>>15041017
I don't really think it would provide much of anything, other than an opportunity to test methods of spying on them.
>>15041100
This might be the only reason to study them at all.

Drop a bomb filled with sleeping gas on their island, then replace one of them with a look a like to infiltrate their society from the inside.

>>15040999
based

>>15057536
They are the south islanders not the northern ones
Anyone who tries to land is killed

>>15041354
i want to hear the legends they've made up about the outside world. they've seen cargo vessels, helicopters, etc, their explanation for what's going on must be fascinating.

drop dakimauras and tenga eggs and watch their society collapse

>>15041100
Language is one, figuring out their language and finding out how it branched off from another language tree of humanity, or whether it is its own thing completely.

Another is dna, finding out what line they branched off from, or if they have evolved differently. This should be of interest to geneticists.

>>15061122
what does it do?
and don't natural things like fruit contain sugar too?

leave them the fuck alone, they've made their desires clear

>>15040785
Lighted UFO drone harassment kek

>>15040785
there's nothing to study, they are creatures with a poor perception of long time value thinking and thus just live day to day, there are plenty examples of this through history there's no point wondering how a bunch of nigger monkey's manage to live like animals

>>15063164
Hitler and the Germans also wanted to be left alone, what’s the difference? these are literal nazis

>>15044613
They became isolated because the europeans, I forgot which specific country not that it matters, kidnapped one of their young people to show them the wonders of the modern world so they could go back and tell everyone but that person ended up dying of a disease because they had never made contact before. So from the sentinelese perspective these white people came to their island kidnapped a child and killed them for no reason.